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September 12, 2022, 04:50:46 AM |
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If England don't commit any mistake 3rd test is there. Only in 2 days of play 30 wickets have gone down. England just need 92 more runs to win on last day with 10 wickets in hands. All England need to do is just relax and don't make any silly mistakes.
Now England is in need of another 33 runs and the same 10 wickets are in the hand. This makes it an easy win for England. The first innings from England and South Africa were almost similar with some variation at the end score. In the second innings England is making a performance that is completely against the first innings performance. The third Test between England and South Africa is on the verge of being won by England. The match could have been concluded early if bad light not interfered, but England still needs 33 more runs on the final day. A poor batter ruined all the good bowling efforts by South Africa, as they lost the match in the first innings like they did in the previous match.
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September 12, 2022, 06:54:48 AM |
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Only SENA pitches are allowed to produce such a mindboggling scorecard, not anyone else, I remember when a similar thing happened in Ind vs Eng at Motera Stadium on the very 1st day of the test. Almost everyone was crying and witnessed many Op'eds from Pundits and experts about the death of Test cricket, pitch etc. I didn't see anything even remotely related to this today.
I personally love such kinds of encounters where the ball is dominating the Bat but not a fan of this type of bias.
This all giving impression we are still living in colonial mindset and happy with white color and if we have any interesting thing in our homeland then surely too much negativity and disrespect is waiting for us because many peoples still believe we are not eligible for things like this. SENA countries and their pitches have right to do anything, but our pitches need to be had permission for results like these because if they don't like these things then surely we have to face penalties or many other things by our peoples not from any other which is doing things like these right now. These type encounters are good for game but surely no idea for media rights as they can face serious loses which is never been ideal for finances and surely then boards are also not allowed things like these for their deep pockets. Agree with the overall sentiment. Also another point would be, for so long Seam, Swing, and Pace are considered sacred cows in the cricketing world, especially in SENA countries and they used to look down at spin conditions as some sort of inferior art and Alien to their home conditions. The situation has changed in the last decade due to various reasons like BCCI and Indian pace bowlers as they started winning regularly in SENA. So some countries SA, AUS and NZ do want to test themselves against in spin conditions too and hardly make any noise when they play in subcontinent. Although their commentators and experts (AUS, NZ) still give subtle comments on pitches from time to time but situation is changing for sure. The problem is with English Media and experts, they are still living in an era where they want every pitch according to their home conditions, Seam on the first 2 days, little better to bat on 3rd day, and again reverse swing on last 2 days or may be some assistance for a spin on 5th day. That's why they get rolled out in India every single time, except one time in last 2 decade. I would be very much interested to see how ICC rate this Eng vs SA pitch because every pitch in the subcontinent receives "Average" Tag when the match finishes within 3 days.
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September 12, 2022, 10:05:51 AM |
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In the first Test match, we saw the dominance of only South African players. The performance of England's players was very poor. But the England team made a great comeback in the second match. And defeated the South African team by an innings margin. In the third match, we all thought the match would be a draw. Because this match is being held in 3 days instead of 5 days. But due to the bad batting of the South African players, we will see the results in this match as well. And only 33 runs will England win. England will win the first session tomorrow.
Amazing fight back by England in second and third test matches of this series specially in third as we have just 154 overs play which is roughly completed two days and now tomorrow before lunch we are going to have result of this match which is surely one of the shortest test match in cricketing history amazing bowling from English bowlers in both innings and good bowling from South African in one inning as in second English inning they fail to break their opening stand which is right now at 97 with just 33 more runs to win this match and series. Anderson, Broad and Robinson all doing quality bowling and not allow South African batsmen to play freely which is good stuff specially Anderson is taking wickets regularly which is great form this forty years old legendary English bowler. The important thing is that we are seeing the erratic batting of the England team in the first innings. But I didn't expect England to play so well in the second innings. England has collected 98 runs but has not lost any wickets yet. I would say so much failure of South African bowlers. The pitch is bowling friendly which is seen quite well. However, the South African bowlers were unable to pick up wickets. We did not like the performance of Marco Jansen and any bowler in the first innings as well. Rabada though took 4 wickets. But he gave 81 runs in 13 overs. However, the match is likely to be won by England without losing a wicket. Although South Africa's players are talented, the squad still lacks experienced players.
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September 12, 2022, 10:37:38 AM |
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I think good players are needed to toilet here it's a game too neglected for survival experienced players they better manage the game here and if not here if they enter the field to play they will be out early and the game is too early The match will be over and those who will have to walk
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September 12, 2022, 10:44:21 AM |
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If England don't commit any mistake 3rd test is there. Only in 2 days of play 30 wickets have gone down. England just need 92 more runs to win on last day with 10 wickets in hands. All England need to do is just relax and don't make any silly mistakes.
Now England is in need of another 33 runs and the same 10 wickets are in the hand. This makes it an easy win for England. The first innings from England and South Africa were almost similar with some variation at the end score. In the second innings England is making a performance that is completely against the first innings performance. The third Test between England and South Africa is on the verge of being won by England. The match could have been concluded early if bad light not interfered, but England still needs 33 more runs on the final day. A poor batter ruined all the good bowling efforts by South Africa, as they lost the match in the first innings like they did in the previous match. All three test matches ended in just 3 days. England had a good comeback in this series. After a disappointing start the English bowlers destroyed the South African batter in next two test match. I was expecting the last match to go on for till the end od day 5th but due to rain I knew it wouldn't.
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September 12, 2022, 02:09:53 PM |
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Update Nothing has changed at Top but next 3 spots are volatile. SL, Ind,Pak are keep going up and down after every match. One could say competition is tough or they are shitposting and shitting the bed after every match, take your pick. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWvfAMoa.jpg&t=665&c=11kshhC0SGWlFQ) Update South Africa took a hit in this series and lost more than 11 points. Next 3 teams must be licking their fingers and it won't be wrong because they can now fancy their chances, all thanks to this series. Especially India and Pakistan as they have 2 series left. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3yqVF08.jpg&t=665&c=40GPYlEDOSsVnw)
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September 12, 2022, 02:45:22 PM |
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] All three test matches ended in just 3 days. England had a good comeback in this series. After a disappointing start the English bowlers destroyed the South African batter in next two test match. I was expecting the last match to go on for till the end od day 5th but due to rain I knew it wouldn't.
England pitches are deadly and they are ideal for test cricket unlike rest of the world. In England we don't usually have a draw. The last test match is historic in a sense that first two days play was washed but still the match comes to a result in almost 2 days. Poor show of batting from South Africa in this test.
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September 12, 2022, 04:37:59 PM |
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Update South Africa took a hit in this series and lost more than 11 points. Next 3 teams must be licking their fingers and it won't be wrong because they can now fancy their chances, all thanks to this series. Especially India and Pakistan as they have 2 series left. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3yqVF08.jpg&t=665&c=40GPYlEDOSsVnw) In my opinion, India and Pakistan have a good chance of winning. There is no way Bangladesh has a chance for sure. However, I had expected New Zealand to perform better than it did. Especially as they are the world's test championship winner. As a result of winning the test world championship, the performance of New Zealand gradually deteriorated. It is expected that India and Pakistan will try their best to have a better performance in the next matches as well. There is also the fact that the t20 world cup is just around the corner. As a result, the teams are going to be focusing a lot more on that aspect. Test cricket is losing its popularity but as long as it is alive I think the bigger teams are going to be the ones who are actually interested in it.
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September 12, 2022, 04:44:57 PM |
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] All three test matches ended in just 3 days. England had a good comeback in this series. After a disappointing start the English bowlers destroyed the South African batter in next two test match. I was expecting the last match to go on for till the end od day 5th but due to rain I knew it wouldn't.
England pitches are deadly and they are ideal for test cricket unlike rest of the world. In England we don't usually have a draw. The last test match is historic in a sense that first two days play was washed but still the match comes to a result in almost 2 days. Poor show of batting from South Africa in this test. If you analysis the three test matches, you will find that all of these matches were won by a big margin. The first test at lord, South Africa won by an innings and 12 runs. The second test at Manchester, England won by an innings and 85 runs. Finally, the third test at Oval, England again won by big margin that is with 9 wickets. I just thinking why in every test one team plays a lot better than the other team and the margin for victory is too big for the matches resulting in less interesting matches.
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September 12, 2022, 07:03:54 PM |
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] All three test matches ended in just 3 days. England had a good comeback in this series. After a disappointing start the English bowlers destroyed the South African batter in next two test match. I was expecting the last match to go on for till the end od day 5th but due to rain I knew it wouldn't.
England pitches are deadly and they are ideal for test cricket unlike rest of the world. In England we don't usually have a draw. The last test match is historic in a sense that first two days play was washed but still the match comes to a result in almost 2 days. Poor show of batting from South Africa in this test. If you analysis the three test matches, you will find that all of these matches were won by a big margin. The first test at lord, South Africa won by an innings and 12 runs. The second test at Manchester, England won by an innings and 85 runs. Finally, the third test at Oval, England again won by big margin that is with 9 wickets. I just thinking why in every test one team plays a lot better than the other team and the margin for victory is too big for the matches resulting in less interesting matches. Players will be well aware and well informed how to use the pitch -they need to have know how to use the pitch to get benefit out of it. Blaming pitch for the poor performance is not always a solution
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] All three test matches ended in just 3 days. England had a good comeback in this series. After a disappointing start the English bowlers destroyed the South African batter in next two test match. I was expecting the last match to go on for till the end od day 5th but due to rain I knew it wouldn't.
Test match between England and South Africa was stopped due to rain two days later the match started again South Africa played very bad in this match they did not take advantage especially South Africa batting was worse
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85℅ people predicted the match between South Africa and England to be a draw But in an instant he changed his mind England's bowler England bowler bowled very well England's baller was great their pace of the ball was confusing South Africa time and time again South Africa's batting was not very clear so they have to accept defeat
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September 12, 2022, 08:01:24 PM |
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All three test matches ended in just 3 days. England had a good comeback in this series. After a disappointing start the English bowlers destroyed the South African batter in next two test match. I was expecting the last match to go on for till the end od day 5th but due to rain I knew it wouldn't.
England pitches are deadly and they are ideal for test cricket unlike rest of the world. In England we don't usually have a draw. The last test match is historic in a sense that first two days play was washed but still the match comes to a result in almost 2 days. Poor show of batting from South Africa in this test. If you analysis the three test matches, you will find that all of these matches were won by a big margin. The first test at lord, South Africa won by an innings and 12 runs. The second test at Manchester, England won by an innings and 85 runs. Finally, the third test at Oval, England again won by big margin that is with 9 wickets. I just thinking why in every test one team plays a lot better than the other team and the margin for victory is too big for the matches resulting in less interesting matches. There is really no way I can explain why the pitches in England have started to behave in this manner. There was a time not so long ago when England pitches were preferred for competitive matches against the side of their opponents. But in recent times that has not been the case. We can clearly see that almost all three matches have been one-sided in one way or another. And that has certainly taken the fun away from the test series. I really do not want anything special. The only thing I want to see is competitive cricket on a regular basis. I am not a fan of anything that is one-sided in any way.
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September 12, 2022, 10:07:22 PM |
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85℅ people predicted the match between South Africa and England to be a draw But in an instant he changed his mind England's bowler England bowler bowled very well England's baller was great their pace of the ball was confusing South Africa time and time again South Africa's batting was not very clear so they have to accept defeat
South Africa should've performed better in the second innings. In the first innings both teams had the similar performance. The match could've got closer if it have set a target of 250+ runs. England had a clear plan on their second innings, thats why they were able to make the comeback in a very strong manner.
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South Africa should've performed better in the second innings. In the first innings both teams had the similar performance. The match could've got closer if it have set a target of 250+ runs. England had a clear plan on their second innings, thats why they were able to make the comeback in a very strong manner.
South Africa was competitive only because of the pace-friendly conditions. They had the ideal pace combination (Rabada-Ngidi-Jansen-Nortje), while the Poms were overdependent on James Anderson and Stuart Broad. On top of that, South African lower order batsmen managed to score valuable runs when it mattered the most. But in the second test they did a big mistake by bringing in Simon Harmer. I don't understand the logic. They dropped Marco Jansen, who was performing exceptionally, to accommodate a spinner, and that too on a pace friendly track.
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Update South Africa took a hit in this series and lost more than 11 points. Next 3 teams must be licking their fingers and it won't be wrong because they can now fancy their chances, all thanks to this series. Especially India and Pakistan as they have 2 series left. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3yqVF08.jpg&t=665&c=40GPYlEDOSsVnw) In my opinion, India and Pakistan have a good chance of winning. There is no way Bangladesh has a chance for sure. However, I had expected New Zealand to perform better than it did. Especially as they are the world's test championship winner. As a result of winning the test world championship, the performance of New Zealand gradually deteriorated. It is expected that India and Pakistan will try their best to have a better performance in the next matches as well. There is also the fact that the t20 world cup is just around the corner. As a result, the teams are going to be focusing a lot more on that aspect. Test cricket is losing its popularity but as long as it is alive I think the bigger teams are going to be the ones who are actually interested in it. WTC Final is scheduled in the Lord's again so there is hardly any chance of the subcontinent team winning there if they are up against any SENA countries, most probably Australia or South Africa. They could win if they bring their top effort but it's true for every team. If these finals are taking place in the subcontinent then there is a very good chance that India will win against any SENA. Pakistan is an unpredicted team so hard to comment but fact is ICC is not considering any final here.
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September 13, 2022, 01:40:00 PM |
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WTC Final is scheduled in the Lord's again so there is hardly any chance of the subcontinent team winning there if they are up against any SENA countries, most probably Australia or South Africa. They could win if they bring their top effort but it's true for every team. If these finals are taking place in the subcontinent then there is a very good chance that India will win against any SENA. Pakistan is an unpredicted team so hard to comment but fact is ICC is not considering any final here. It is my belief that the subcontinental teams have no chance of winning this competition and I believe that they will lose. There are two countries at the top of the table, Australia and South Africa. They have the best chances of being selected as finalists, in my opinion. There is a close relationship between Pakistan and India, but I do not think they have a good chance of winning. In other words, they don't have a very good chance against bigger opponents like England or South Africa if they are playing outside the subcontinent. However, I would not rule out the possibility that India could be a serious contender.
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September 13, 2022, 01:44:01 PM |
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Update South Africa took a hit in this series and lost more than 11 points. Next 3 teams must be licking their fingers and it won't be wrong because they can now fancy their chances, all thanks to this series. Especially India and Pakistan as they have 2 series left. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3yqVF08.jpg&t=665&c=40GPYlEDOSsVnw) In my opinion, India and Pakistan have a good chance of winning. There is no way Bangladesh has a chance for sure. However, I had expected New Zealand to perform better than it did. Especially as they are the world's test championship winner. As a result of winning the test world championship, the performance of New Zealand gradually deteriorated. It is expected that India and Pakistan will try their best to have a better performance in the next matches as well. There is also the fact that the t20 world cup is just around the corner. As a result, the teams are going to be focusing a lot more on that aspect. Test cricket is losing its popularity but as long as it is alive I think the bigger teams are going to be the ones who are actually interested in it. WTC Final is scheduled in the Lord's again so there is hardly any chance of the subcontinent team winning there if they are up against any SENA countries, most probably Australia or South Africa. They could win if they bring their top effort but it's true for every team. If these finals are taking place in the subcontinent then there is a very good chance that India will win against any SENA. Pakistan is an unpredicted team so hard to comment but fact is ICC is not considering any final here. Is there a reason why the finals are always held in England? Although the weather in England is unpredictable and rain is always present, the WTC Final is always scheduled there despite the fact that it is unpredictable there. Furthermore, any SENA country will have a significant advantage over the subcontinent team in Lord's. World cup tournaments should not be held in England again and again. One more dampener on our excitement would be unwelcome.
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Australia and South Africa are still at the top of the 2021–2023 ICC World Test Championship League table. It is too early to make any conclusions, but England doesn't look to be in a very healthy position. The same can be said about the defending champs, who are at the 8th position. At this point, India is at the 4th position and I am sure that they will be looking forward to improve their ranking. For India, the next series is going to be against Bangladesh, by the end of this year. After that they have the Border–Gavaskar Trophy, sometime in February 2023.
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~snip~ WTC Final is scheduled in the Lord's again so there is hardly any chance of the subcontinent team winning there if they are up against any SENA countries, most probably Australia or South Africa. They could win if they bring their top effort but it's true for every team.
If these finals are taking place in the subcontinent then there is a very good chance that India will win against any SENA. Pakistan is an unpredicted team so hard to comment but fact is ICC is not considering any final here.
Is there a reason why the finals are always held in England? Although the weather in England is unpredictable and rain is always present, the WTC Final is always scheduled there despite the fact that it is unpredictable there. Furthermore, any SENA country will have a significant advantage over the subcontinent team in Lord's. World cup tournaments should not be held in England again and again. One more dampener on our excitement would be unwelcome. I don't know the exact reasons or how they actually choose the venue for WTC. WTC is still a new setup so there is some hope that in the future venue process will go through changes (Rotation basis), just like other ICC tournaments. Lord's has a historic factor in cricket so we can assume that's the main reason.
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