ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[doomloop]

A target of 270 runs cannot be called a big target. Rohit Sharma returned to the dressing room with 30 runs off 17 balls. There was no need for such hard-hitting at the beginning of the innings. Had he batted responsibly, India would have been able to win. India lost their first wicket by 65 runs. There was a big enough partnership. They lost the second wicket for 77 runs and lost the third wicket for 146 runs. And soon after that the Indian batsmen lost the truck. And the Australian bowlers took control of the match. India would have been in control of the match if the top-order players batted with some patience.

I agree with this 270 while you are playing at home with pitch is also not bad at all mean things looking for better end from India but if veteran Rohit Sharma is still had no mind set how to chase like this then you can't expect better things from other players he needs to understand every time going with aggressive way is not favorable from this match hopefully now they will be checked their mistakes and try to fix this all before world cup because now they have no enough time to do more experiments.

Start was good but as India lost first few wickets then suddenly things gone out of their hands and Australia done good comeback in leadership of Steven Smith which is good as captain and have good record in past as well SKY complete his hat-trick of golden ducks in ODI which is also another achievement for this number 1 ranked player in T20I.

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[Vaskiy]

India has performed quite well in the Test series. But in the ODI series, I had more expectations from the Indian players. They can't live up to expectations. Every Indian player's performance is erratic now. Indian players were in great form against New Zealand in the last ODI series. But their performance against Australia was completely erratic.

India's aim in the upcoming ODI World Cup is to win the title. Because India's performance in the last T20 World Cup was very poor. But with such erratic performance in ODI matches, nothing better can be expected from them in the World Cup. Very soon the Indian management needs to find its best XI. Otherwise, India will perform badly in ODI World Cup like T20 World Cup.

Both the teams played well. Finally it turned to be the winning for Australia for some reason. The target score looked easy reachable based on the good start coming from India. Later things changed as India lost some unwanted wickets. In particular the runout of Axar, Surya Kumar's wicket, Hardik's and Jadeja's wicket at the wrong time going for big shots.

Anyhow this is completely unexpected as the home ground is much favourite for the home ground and the same have ended the consecutive 7 ODI series wins. It is completely unexpected from SuryaKumar to loss his wickets on the very first ball in the last 3 ODI.

[Rigon]

Only Virat Kohli performed good and Hardik Pandya tried to score good runs rest of the team literally wasted balls . Rohit Sharma could have performed sensibly , there were great expectations from Suryakumar Yadav but he got out on a duck and he's the first Indian player who got out on ducks in 3 consecutive matches .

I will not criticize Virat Kohli. Virat Kohli has performed well enough. But if he could have lasted a little longer, more runs would have been scored and India would not have been under so much pressure in today's match. The dream of victory was fulfilled without hesitation. Besides, all other batsmen's performance is bad. Surya Kumar Yadav has done the worst, he has been dismissed for no runs in three consecutive matches. One such batsman he got out for zero runs. Although overall India did not perform very well yesterday. I never imagined their style of play. However, they lost to Australia in their own field. It is very sad for India.

[Mr.corol]

Bangladesh vs Ireland  
Today the last match of the series is Bangladesh vs Ireland. The second match was postponed due to rain. Bangladesh collected 349 runs in the last match. A very big target, Bangladesh would have easily won the match. The match was not won due to rain.

Bangladesh's weak opponent is Ireland. Bangladeshi players are in great form now. Mushfiqur Rahim has shown great performance in the last two days. I think Bangladesh will win today.

[Sithara007]

Only Virat Kohli performed good and Hardik Pandya tried to score good runs rest of the team literally wasted balls . Rohit Sharma could have performed sensibly , there were great expectations from Suryakumar Yadav but he got out on a duck and he's the first Indian player who got out on ducks in 3 consecutive matches .

Suryakumar Yadav had a lean patch this time. After an exceptional start to his ODI career, his stats doesn't look good if we add 2022 and 2023. Batting average is down, and strike rate has also gone down. One interesting aspect about Suryakumar Yadav is that his T20I record looks much better when compared to his stats in ODI. In T20I, he averages close to 60 playing in Australia, while in ODI his overall average stands at 24.05. BTW, Sanju Samson fans are going ballistic in Twitter. They want Yadav to be replaced with Samson.

[pakhitheboss]

The Australian side were earlier able to break the Indian record of 18 consecutive series win on home ground from 2016 till 2019. From 2019 till yesterday the Indian team had a winning streak of 26 consecutive home series win until yesterday. The only team that can challenge India in the upcoming ODIWC is Australia. 

Again the Indian batting line-up failed to give the boost India needed in this series. SKY has been going through a bad patch in his career. He doesn't have the luxury like other batters to get selected if they perform badly for a couple of years. He needs to get his shit right if he wants to be part of the top 11.

Sanju samson fans have again started asking questions on why he is not getting selected as a replacement for SKY.

[Nrcewker]

Only Virat Kohli performed good and Hardik Pandya tried to score good runs rest of the team literally wasted balls . Rohit Sharma could have performed sensibly , there were great expectations from Suryakumar Yadav but he got out on a duck and he's the first Indian player who got out on ducks in 3 consecutive matches .

I can agree on the fact that Rohit Sharma played aggressively when there was no need for it. I mean, the target was only 270 runs; there was no need to play with a 170+ strike rate to be honest. Rohit Sharma could have at least played slowly and should have been settled before hitting those big shots. Virat did his job, but the rest of the batsmen didn’t do as expected. If, instead of Kuldeep, we had Axar in the team, then still India had chances to win the match, as Axar is a good batsman as well. Moreover, Surya didn’t do well, and BCCI will definitely reconsider an alternative for him if he doesn’t perform well in the next series, either. 

[JSRAW]

The Australian side were earlier able to break the Indian record of 18 consecutive series win on home ground from 2016 till 2019. From 2019 till yesterday the Indian team had a winning streak of 26 consecutive home series win until yesterday. The only team that can challenge India in the upcoming ODIWC is Australia. 

Again the Indian batting line-up failed to give the boost India needed in this series. SKY has been going through a bad patch in his career. He doesn't have the luxury like other batters to get selected if they perform badly for a couple of years. He needs to get his shit right if he wants to be part of the top 11.

Sanju samson fans have again started asking questions on why he is not getting selected as a replacement for SKY.

Let me be blunt here.

If ICC decides to add 10 more teams in the ICC WC (20-ish teams) then this Indian team won't even reach the knockouts. Not saying they are not good but there is some serious problem with the mindset and it shows from time to time in important matches and big worry is no one is willing to address this issue. I really don't understand how come our batter forget to play spin. At one point Indian batters used to treat legendary Warne and Murli like club bowlers.

[CryptoBuds]

Only Virat Kohli performed good and Hardik Pandya tried to score good runs rest of the team literally wasted balls . Rohit Sharma could have performed sensibly , there were great expectations from Suryakumar Yadav but he got out on a duck and he's the first Indian player who got out on ducks in 3 consecutive matches .

I can agree on the fact that Rohit Sharma played aggressively when there was no need for it. I mean, the target was only 270 runs; there was no need to play with a 170+ strike rate to be honest. Rohit Sharma could have at least played slowly and should have been settled before hitting those big shots. Virat did his job, but the rest of the batsmen didn’t do as expected. If, instead of Kuldeep, we had Axar in the team, then still India had chances to win the match, as Axar is a good batsman as well. Moreover, Surya didn’t do well, and BCCI will definitely reconsider an alternative for him if he doesn’t perform well in the next series, either. 

The target was 270 runs. India needed 5.7 runs per over. We don't know why Rohit Sharma played aggressively in such a situation. He scored 30 runs, not a bad innings. But he should have batted patiently and stayed at the crease. And by forming a large pair. If the two openers were able to form a big pair, India would not have lost this match. Even then, India was in control of the match till 35 overs. After that, India started to slip after losing two wickets in the 36th over. And can't get back to the truck.

[cozytrade]

India vs Australia
 I saw a tough fight between these two teams. But I lost the bet on yesterday's match. I thought maybe India will win. I placed a bet in support of India but India lost the match because of the poor batsmen of India. I lost the bet. The batsman of the Indian team KL  Rahul batted very badly. I expected KL Rahul to score more than 50 runs but before that KL Rahul got out. Virat Kohli scored the best runs among Indian batsmen. Virat Kohli scored 54 runs off 72 balls.

[elevates]

The target was 270 runs. India needed 5.7 runs per over. We don't know why Rohit Sharma played aggressively in such a situation. He scored 30 runs, not a bad innings. But he should have batted patiently and stayed at the crease. And by forming a large pair. If the two openers were able to form a big pair, India would not have lost this match. Even then, India was in control of the match till 35 overs. After that, India started to slip after losing two wickets in the 36th over. And can't get back to the truck.

There is no point in blaming one particular player. The whole batting line up is pretty much in shambles. Indian batters were know to be good against spinners but they are struggling to even defend themselves against spin bowling. I know it is just a phase and it shall also pass on but the question is when? Just before the World Cup India is struggling with bat. The bowlers are doing an excellent job but those famous batters are so much with pride that they forgot how & where should they hit the ball. I am getting a feeling that this Indian team will suck in the world cup. If they do then the repercussions would be worst from the fans.

[Sithara007]

Let me be blunt here.

If ICC decides to add 10 more teams in the ICC WC (20-ish teams) then this Indian team won't even reach the knockouts. Not saying they are not good but there is some serious problem with the mindset and it shows from time to time in important matches and big worry is no one is willing to address this issue. I really don't understand how come our batter forget to play spin. At one point Indian batters used to treat legendary Warne and Murli like club bowlers.

That maybe a wrong comparison. India never performs well during ICC tournaments. They are the best when they participate in bilateral tours. When was the last time the Indian team won an ICC championship? I believe it was at least a decade ago, when Mahendra Singh Dhoni was the captain. But I agree with you on the last part. We had legendary batsmen, who would smash top-quality spinners like Muttiah Muralitharan, Shane Warne and Saqlain Mushtaq all around the park. Current batsmen would struggle against Zampa and Murphy.

[BALIK]

India need 27 runs from just 13 balls to win. India is under a lot of pressure right now. They have already lost 9 wickets. But it looks like India will not be able to win today's match. I bet for India in today's match but I never imagined that India would do so badly. It is very sad that they could not win today in India's own ground. However, don't give up hope yet, let's see what India can do. However, the target of 270 runs given by Australia was not much. But India themselves made the match very difficult.

Australia won the match by 21 runs. After giving Australia a target of 270 I expected India to win. But they failed. Not to say that the team's top-order players performed poorly. But no batsman could play a big inning. Virat Kohli scored the highest 54 runs for the team. India could have won this match if any batsman batted with some responsibility and stayed at the crease. India could have won if Suryakumar Yadav and Jadeja batted a bit better. Despite winning the Test series, India lost the ODI series.

While India's top order did not perform badly one of the batsmen managed to play a big innings with Virat Kohli top scoring with 54 runs. You believe that any of the Indian batsmen could have won the match if they had batted more responsibly and stayed at the crease and you identify Suriyakumar Yadav and Jadeja as potential players who could have made the difference. Despite winning the Test series India seem to have lost the ODI series against Australia. It is always disappointing to come close to victory but not quite make it but it is important to remember that there are many factors that affect the outcome of a cricket match and that each team has its strengths and weaknesses.

India should have won with a target of 270 runs on such a pitch. They lost because of their stupidity. Apart from Virat Kohli, I have never seen any batsman bat with responsibility. If Kohli was able to score a century, maybe the Indian team would have been able to win. Also missing one of the most important players in the Indian squad, Suryakumar Yadav, Axar Patel and Jadeja did not perform well. Indian middle order depended on these three players. The weaknesses of the Indian squad have been well exposed in this series. If the Indian management does not take proper steps to fix their weaknesses now, they will face bigger problems in the future.

[ThemePen]

India vs Australia
 I saw a tough fight between these two teams. But I lost the bet on yesterday's match. I thought maybe India will win. I placed a bet in support of India but India lost the match because of the poor batsmen of India. I lost the bet. The batsman of the Indian team KL  Rahul batted very badly. I expected KL Rahul to score more than 50 runs but before that KL Rahul got out. Virat Kohli scored the best runs among Indian batsmen. Virat Kohli scored 54 runs off 72 balls.

As per my prediction in the previous post in this thread. I was looking the team Australia more strong as compare to Indian team. Many are saying the Indians teams stupidity or some are saying India's team players didn't played well. Bla bla bla. But in my point of view, when the second team will be strong so this team always catch the loose points of the other team and then try to work on it. You can say the India's team played not well but you can also say that the Australian was good to.

[JSRAW]

Let me be blunt here.

If ICC decides to add 10 more teams in the ICC WC (20-ish teams) then this Indian team won't even reach the knockouts. Not saying they are not good but there is some serious problem with the mindset and it shows from time to time in important matches and big worry is no one is willing to address this issue. I really don't understand how come our batter forget to play spin. At one point Indian batters used to treat legendary Warne and Murli like club bowlers.

That maybe a wrong comparison. India never performs well during ICC tournaments. They are the best when they participate in bilateral tours. When was the last time the Indian team won an ICC championship? I believe it was at least a decade ago, when Mahendra Singh Dhoni was the captain. But I agree with you on the last part. We had legendary batsmen, who would smash top-quality spinners like Muttiah Muralitharan, Shane Warne and Saqlain Mushtaq all around the park. Current batsmen would struggle against Zampa and Murphy.

Not talking about the ICC trophy (or bilaterals for that matter) at all but ICC knockouts. They have to clear knockouts to reach finals first that's why arguing that if more teams are added in the ICC tournaments then they won't even reach knockouts, which they do regularly in almost every ICC tourney.

I am implying 2007 like scenario repeating every now n then if the ICC tourney becomes multi team competition (16-20 teams on the group stage).

[Sithara007]

Not talking about the ICC trophy (or bilaterals for that matter) at all but ICC knockouts. They have to clear knockouts to reach finals first that's why arguing that if more teams are added in the ICC tournaments then they won't even reach knockouts, which they do regularly in almost every ICC tourney.

I am implying 2007 like scenario repeating every now n then if the ICC tourney becomes multi team competition (16-20 teams on the group stage).

The best and most practical solution to this, is to add a few more teams from India. Along with the senior Indian team, there can be an Indian U-25 team (captained by Ishan Kishan or Rishabh Pant) and an Indian A team (captained by players like Natarajan who are not preferred by the Indian selectors). This will retain the viewer interest in the tournament, in case India senior team gets knocked out during the group phase. And what is the issue in having a few more teams, when we have United Arab Emirates and Oman fielding teams entirely comprised of Indian citizens?

[LDL]

Bangladesh vs Ireland  
Today the last match of the series is Bangladesh vs Ireland. The second match was postponed due to rain. Bangladesh collected 349 runs in the last match. A very big target, Bangladesh would have easily won the match. The match was not won due to rain.

Bangladesh's weak opponent is Ireland. Bangladeshi players are in great form now. Mushfiqur Rahim has shown great performance in the last two days. I think Bangladesh will win today.

The second match abandoned for Bangladesh was very important and full of records. The abandoned second match was the highest run-scoring innings for Bangladesh but unfortunately the match was abandoned due to rain. Mushfiqur Rahim had an impeccable century in an innings of 349 runs in Bangladesh which was the lowest in Mushfiqur Rahim's career. However, Bangladesh must win the third ODI to win the series, on the other hand, Ireland must win this match to equalize the series.

[NicNacCoin]

The second match abandoned for Bangladesh was very important and full of records. The abandoned second match was the highest run-scoring innings for Bangladesh but unfortunately the match was abandoned due to rain. Mushfiqur Rahim had an impeccable century in an innings of 349 runs in Bangladesh which was the lowest in Mushfiqur Rahim's career.

Bangladesh's abandonment of the second match was particularly unfortunate for Mushfiqur Rahim. But one thing I am in dilemma is whether Mushfiqur Rahim's century and 7000 run record will be changed or recorded. As far as I know nothing is recorded when a match is abandoned. If so then Mushfiqur Rahim has suffered the most for the second match being abandoned.

However, Bangladesh must win the third ODI to win the series, on the other hand, Ireland must win this match to equalize the series.

Today's match is very important for both Bangladesh and Ireland. If Bangladesh can win this match today then they will win the series. In response, Bangladesh will have to fight hard. On the other hand, Ireland will have to perform hard to win the series and Bangladesh will have to beat them with a hard performance. But let us enjoy this important match.

[Litzki1990]

Today's match is very important for both Bangladesh and Ireland. If Bangladesh can win this match today then they will win the series. In response, Bangladesh will have to fight hard. On the other hand, Ireland will have to perform hard to win the series and Bangladesh will have to beat them with a hard performance. But let us enjoy this important match.

The captain of the Ireland team won the toss for the third time in a row against Bangladesh. Today Ireland won the toss and elected to bat first. Bangladesh had a chance to score a big score today but the toss messed up Bangladesh's planning. The third and last ODI match of Bangladesh vs Ireland is going to take place shortly. Bangladesh will enter the field today with some changes. Mehdi Hasan Meraj returned to the team instead of Yasir Ali .Good luck to both teams.

[justdimin]

There is no point in blaming one particular player. The whole batting line up is pretty much in shambles. Indian batters were know to be good against spinners but they are struggling to even defend themselves against spin bowling. I know it is just a phase and it shall also pass on but the question is when? Just before the World Cup India is struggling with bat. The bowlers are doing an excellent job but those famous batters are so much with pride that they forgot how & where should they hit the ball. I am getting a feeling that this Indian team will suck in the world cup. If they do then the repercussions would be worst from the fans.

Here we need to appreciate Australians as well because after losing first two test matches they have done good comeback and have enough spirit to bring down India at their home with they were good but sadly in first two test matches they were not able to perform as their plan, but after Smith take as captain things change for them, and they have better use of their bowlers which help them for having better performance.

Even this all is OK, but now it's time for having some improvement in batting as well because new generation Indian batsmen have no enough quality to read spin as we have few years back with IPL things are changing very quickly everyone wanted to have good strike rate and quick firepower which is also creating problems for them, and they are not able to study as they needed to be done in all formats.