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March 07, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
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And of course, again Shakib Al Hasan is the one to win things for Bangladesh.
Apart from Shakib Al Hasan winning Bangladesh in the last match against England, he also touched two other big milestones of his own. He became the first Bangladeshi to touch the milestone of 300 wickets in ODI cricket, which no Bangladeshi has done so far. And the highest number of four plus wickets and 50 plus runs in the same match is currently number one and second is Shahid Afridi. I think this achievement is not only for Shakib Al Hasan but for all cricket lovers.

Shakib Al Hassan is the perfect example of a great player being born in the wrong country. If he was playing for any other country, I believe his achievements would be a lot better even though it is already the best in the world. He is the only player who has been consistent throughout his whole career.

Bangladesh is really lucky to get a player like Shakib Al Hassan. It is also going to mean a lot to Shakib Al Hassan that Bangladesh was able to win the match against a big team like England on that day which he achieved all of these milestones.

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March 07, 2023, 05:40:06 PM
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And of course, again Shakib Al Hasan is the one to win things for Bangladesh.
Apart from Shakib Al Hasan winning Bangladesh in the last match against England, he also touched two other big milestones of his own. He became the first Bangladeshi to touch the milestone of 300 wickets in ODI cricket, which no Bangladeshi has done so far. And the highest number of four plus wickets and 50 plus runs in the same match is currently number one and second is Shahid Afridi. I think this achievement is not only for Shakib Al Hasan but for all cricket lovers.

Shakib Al Hassan is the perfect example of a great player being born in the wrong country. If he was playing for any other country, I believe his achievements would be a lot better even though it is already the best in the world. He is the only player who has been consistent throughout his whole career.

Bangladesh is really lucky to get a player like Shakib Al Hassan. It is also going to mean a lot to Shakib Al Hassan that Bangladesh was able to win the match against a big team like England on that day which he achieved all of these milestones.

Shakib Al Hasan is the pride of Bangladesh. But even if good cricketers are born in Bangladesh, But they don't get the respect they deserve. I can remember two players in Bangladesh cricket one of them was Shakib Al Hasan and the other was Mohammad Ashraful Islam who was convicted of match fixing. Ashraful was the youngest cricketer to score a century in Test cricket. He might have done better in cricket if he had not been convicted of such a crime. Perhaps he was expected to return to the team after serving the punishment, but the Bangladesh Cricket Board did not accept him. In Bangladesh cricket, good players are born and again they are lost due to lack of proper nurturing.

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March 07, 2023, 06:17:27 PM
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Shakib Al Hasan is the pride of Bangladesh. But even if good cricketers are born in Bangladesh, But they don't get the respect they deserve. I can remember two players in Bangladesh cricket one of them was Shakib Al Hasan and the other was Mohammad Ashraful Islam who was convicted of match fixing. Ashraful was the youngest cricketer to score a century in Test cricket. He might have done better in cricket if he had not been convicted of such a crime. Perhaps he was expected to return to the team after serving the punishment, but the Bangladesh Cricket Board did not accept him. In Bangladesh cricket, good players are born and again they are lost due to lack of proper nurturing.

Shakib Al Hasan was the good player of the Bangladesh team.If we describe him as the pride of Bangladesh,I don’t oppose you for that.I won’t accept the point of they are disrespected.The cricket is the game where all the talented good players will have fan all over the world.I was sure,Hasan will have fan in Australia and Srilanka.Because of their cricket skill.You should change your way of seeing the cricket team.Mohammad Ashraful Islam also good player with good batting skills.Because he is recent youngster from Bangladesh to score century in the test match.To score century in test need huge cricket skill.

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March 07, 2023, 06:35:10 PM
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And of course, again Shakib Al Hasan is the one to win things for Bangladesh.
Apart from Shakib Al Hasan winning Bangladesh in the last match against England, he also touched two other big milestones of his own. He became the first Bangladeshi to touch the milestone of 300 wickets in ODI cricket, which no Bangladeshi has done so far. And the highest number of four plus wickets and 50 plus runs in the same match is currently number one and second is Shahid Afridi. I think this achievement is not only for Shakib Al Hasan but for all cricket lovers.

Shakib Al Hassan is the perfect example of a great player being born in the wrong country. If he was playing for any other country, I believe his achievements would be a lot better even though it is already the best in the world. He is the only player who has been consistent throughout his whole career.

Bangladesh is really lucky to get a player like Shakib Al Hassan. It is also going to mean a lot to Shakib Al Hassan that Bangladesh was able to win the match against a big team like England on that day which he achieved all of these milestones.

Shakib Al Hasan is the pride of Bangladesh. But even if good cricketers are born in Bangladesh, But they don't get the respect they deserve. I can remember two players in Bangladesh cricket one of them was Shakib Al Hasan and the other was Mohammad Ashraful Islam who was convicted of match fixing. Ashraful was the youngest cricketer to score a century in Test cricket. He might have done better in cricket if he had not been convicted of such a crime. Perhaps he was expected to return to the team after serving the punishment, but the Bangladesh Cricket Board did not accept him. In Bangladesh cricket, good players are born and again they are lost due to lack of proper nurturing.
Shakib Al Hasan is an experienced and talented player and he has proven himself alot of times when Bangladesh is in trouble,  and whenever needed he has fulfilled the duty to serve his team. 
But Bangladesh team has one issue they don't have diversity in their team which is required for building a strong team.

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March 07, 2023, 07:11:57 PM
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Bangladesh had already qualified for the ODIWC. I am not sure why there is so much fuss about them losing the ODI series at home. They are currently ranked above Pakistan on the qualification points table after winning the last match against England because of NRR.
In comparison they are far better than Australia & Pakistan. Bilateral series doesn't make a big difference. In the end what matters the most is how well you can play in an ICC tournament. I am pretty much confident that this Bangladesh team will play much better than many big teams in the ODIWC.

If you are talking about the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League, then I agree. Bangladesh has already qualified, by being in the top-8. They still have 3 matches remaining, and are having 130 points. No matter how much they try, the bottom ranking teams (West Indies, South Africa, Sri Lanka and Ireland) will be able to overtake Bangladesh. And let's remember that the remaining three matches for Bangladesh are scheduled to be against one of the weakest teams in the league (Ireland, May 2023).

We have the series between New Zealand and Sri Lanka starting in two weeks from now. Now this is extremely crucial. In order to have a chance to qualify for the ODI World Cup, Sri Lanka needs to win at least 2 out of the 3 matches (and hope that South Africa lose most of their remaining matches). But then, South Africa has two matches remaining against Netherlands. 

For me, it doesn't matter if Bangladesh has already qualified or not. I still expected a better performance from Bangladesh against England. Of course, Bangladesh was unable to provide that type of performance. At least in the first two, it can be said that the performance of Bangladesh is below average in ODI right now. And with this type of performance, Bangladesh is not going to go very far in the world cup.

Bangladesh is now in the 4th position of the standing and qualified for the world cup.

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March 07, 2023, 10:37:13 PM
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And of course, again Shakib Al Hasan is the one to win things for Bangladesh.
Apart from Shakib Al Hasan winning Bangladesh in the last match against England, he also touched two other big milestones of his own. He became the first Bangladeshi to touch the milestone of 300 wickets in ODI cricket, which no Bangladeshi has done so far. And the highest number of four plus wickets and 50 plus runs in the same match is currently number one and second is Shahid Afridi. I think this achievement is not only for Shakib Al Hasan but for all cricket lovers.

Shakib Al Hassan is the perfect example of a great player being born in the wrong country. If he was playing for any other country, I believe his achievements would be a lot better even though it is already the best in the world. He is the only player who has been consistent throughout his whole career.

Bangladesh is really lucky to get a player like Shakib Al Hassan. It is also going to mean a lot to Shakib Al Hassan that Bangladesh was able to win the match against a big team like England on that day which he achieved all of these milestones.

Shakib Al Hasan is the pride of Bangladesh. But even if good cricketers are born in Bangladesh, But they don't get the respect they deserve. I can remember two players in Bangladesh cricket one of them was Shakib Al Hasan and the other was Mohammad Ashraful Islam who was convicted of match fixing. Ashraful was the youngest cricketer to score a century in Test cricket. He might have done better in cricket if he had not been convicted of such a crime. Perhaps he was expected to return to the team after serving the punishment, but the Bangladesh Cricket Board did not accept him. In Bangladesh cricket, good players are born and again they are lost due to lack of proper nurturing.
Shakib Al Hasan is an experienced and talented player and he has proven himself alot of times when Bangladesh is in trouble,  and whenever needed he has fulfilled the duty to serve his team. 
But Bangladesh team has one issue they don't have diversity in their team which is required for building a strong team.
Shakib Al Hasan is a very experienced and established player. I like his game very much. He is working hard enough for the Bangladesh team. However, one of the reasons for the Bangladesh Cricket Board's backwardness is the country's political situation. The game of cricket is very much on the verge of destruction to introduce political crisis into the game. And of course yes there is no diversity in the Bangladesh team due to which they are not able to form a strong team. If Bangladesh can establish diversity in the team then surely they will be able to form a strong team and once again create a good position in the world.

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March 07, 2023, 10:48:25 PM
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For me, it doesn't matter if Bangladesh has already qualified or not. I still expected a better performance from Bangladesh against England. Of course, Bangladesh was unable to provide that type of performance. At least in the first two, it can be said that the performance of Bangladesh is below average in ODI right now. And with this type of performance, Bangladesh is not going to go very far in the world cup.
Bangladesh is now in the 4th position of the standing and qualified for the world cup.
Beyond this what you're expecting from Bangladesh team. According to me, the second match is the one that had the big difference. The first match is a close call and it is the best match according to me, because Bangladesh scored 209 runs and with the bowling they've took 8 wickets and England won the match in the 49th over. In my view Bangladesh is performing good and little improvement will help the team perform even well. Tomorrow the T20 matches between England and Bangladesh gonna start. We'll find better performance there.

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Bangladesh had already qualified for the ODIWC. I am not sure why there is so much fuss about them losing the ODI series at home. They are currently ranked above Pakistan on the qualification points table after winning the last match against England because of NRR.

In comparison they are far better than Australia & Pakistan. Bilateral series doesn't make a big difference. In the end what matters the most is how well you can play in an ICC tournament. I am pretty much confident that this Bangladesh team will play much better than many big teams in the ODIWC.
Yes Bangladesh have already qualified themselves for ODI World Cup 2023, meanwhile Pakistan and Bangladesh are tied with equal points but only because of Net Run Rate (NRR) Bangladesh is above Pakistan. Bangladesh's NRR (+0.233) and Pakistan's NRR(0.108) but the points are equal to 130 points for both teams. Bangladesh and Pakistan have played less than three matches and Australia is at number 6 in the points table. On the other hand, South Africa, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Zimbabwe, Netherlands, Ireland have not qualified so far, but Sri Lanka, South Africa, West Indies have to play qualifier matches to qualify them.


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For me, it doesn't matter if Bangladesh has already qualified or not. I still expected a better performance from Bangladesh against England. Of course, Bangladesh was unable to provide that type of performance. At least in the first two, it can be said that the performance of Bangladesh is below average in ODI right now. And with this type of performance, Bangladesh is not going to go very far in the world cup.

Bangladesh is now in the 4th position of the standing and qualified for the world cup.

For the current season (2020-2023) of the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League, Bangladesh started well with wins against tough opposition back in 2020 and 2021. And that is the reason why they are currently at the 4th place in points table. But their recent performances have been disappointing. Being a test member, Bangladesh receives around $16 million per year from the ICC (2015-2023 cycle). This money is not being spent productively. If the funds were used for grass-roots development, then the performance would have shown significant improvement by now.

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For me, it doesn't matter if Bangladesh has already qualified or not. I still expected a better performance from Bangladesh against England. Of course, Bangladesh was unable to provide that type of performance. At least in the first two, it can be said that the performance of Bangladesh is below average in ODI right now. And with this type of performance, Bangladesh is not going to go very far in the world cup.

Bangladesh is now in the 4th position of the standing and qualified for the world cup.
For the current season (2020-2023) of the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League, Bangladesh started well with wins against tough opposition back in 2020 and 2021. And that is the reason why they are currently at the 4th place in points table. But their recent performances have been disappointing. Being a test member, Bangladesh receives around $16 million per year from the ICC (2015-2023 cycle). This money is not being spent productively. If the funds were used for grass-roots development, then the performance would have shown significant improvement by now.

It would be wrong to say that Bangladesh's current performance is disappointing. Despite losing the series against England, we have seen excellent performances from the players of Bangladesh in two matches. Bangladesh performed very well in the first and last matches. And in the previous series, the Bangladesh team won the series 2-1 against India. They were able to win against teams like India and England. So it should not be said that Bangladesh's performance is not good. Bangladesh team has a lot of talented players. But their main problem is that none of the players can play well on a regular basis. This is why the Bangladesh team is lagging behind.

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It would be wrong to say that Bangladesh's current performance is disappointing. Despite losing the series against England, we have seen excellent performances from the players of Bangladesh in two matches. Bangladesh performed very well in the first and last matches. And in the previous series, the Bangladesh team won the series 2-1 against India. They were able to win against teams like India and England. So it should not be said that Bangladesh's performance is not good. Bangladesh team has a lot of talented players. But their main problem is that none of the players can play well on a regular basis. This is why the Bangladesh team is lagging behind.

Consistency is lacking in their performance. And when was the last time that they performed well during an ICC tournament? It has been almost two and half decades since they received the test status. Forget about the ICC tournaments. Bangladesh has failed even to win any of the ACC tournaments. Their best performance was in 2016 and 2018, when they finished as the runners up in Asia Cup. The only time Bangladesh managed to become champions was in 2010, when they received gold meal for cricket competition in the Asian Games.

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On the other hand, South Africa, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Zimbabwe, Netherlands, Ireland have not qualified so far, but Sri Lanka, South Africa, West Indies have to play qualifier matches to qualify them.

Out of the teams that are yet to qualify I have serious doubts about WI. I do not see any issue of Srilanka getting qualified or South Africa but WI has already played the required quota of matches. The fight would be between Srilanka and South Africa and in the end, it will all depend on the NRR for both these teams. It would be interesting to watch which of these two teams will qualify for the world cup.

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March 08, 2023, 10:12:19 AM
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On the other hand, South Africa, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Zimbabwe, Netherlands, Ireland have not qualified so far, but Sri Lanka, South Africa, West Indies have to play qualifier matches to qualify them.

Out of the teams that are yet to qualify I have serious doubts about WI. I do not see any issue of Srilanka getting qualified or South Africa but WI has already played the required quota of matches. The fight would be between Srilanka and South Africa and in the end, it will all depend on the NRR for both these teams. It would be interesting to watch which of these two teams will qualify for the world cup.
I also hope that these two teams which you have mentioned West Indies and Srilanka teams will qualify for the world cup. Both will try to its best to be qualified for upcoming world cup. Between these two teams I am pretty sure that the West Indies team will definitely qualify for the world cup this is my point of view others may disagree.

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I also hope that these two teams which you have mentioned West Indies and Srilanka teams will qualify for the world cup. Both will try to its best to be qualified for upcoming world cup. Between these two teams I am pretty sure that the West Indies team will definitely qualify for the world cup this is my point of view others may disagree.
Sri Lanka won the title of champion in the last 2022 Asia Cup, but Sri Lanka could not qualify for this year's ICC ODI Men's World Cup, but they have to play the qualifiers. On the other hand, West Indies could not participate in the T20 World Cup 2022 because they could not qualify in the qualifier matches, but West Indies had a good performance as the number one team in T20 at one time. However, it is expected that West Indies will participate in this year's ICC ODI World Cup.

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March 08, 2023, 10:40:57 AM
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I also hope that these two teams which you have mentioned West Indies and Srilanka teams will qualify for the world cup. Both will try to its best to be qualified for upcoming world cup. Between these two teams I am pretty sure that the West Indies team will definitely qualify for the world cup this is my point of view others may disagree.
Sri Lanka won the title of champion in the last 2022 Asia Cup, but Sri Lanka could not qualify for this year's ICC ODI Men's World Cup, but they have to play the qualifiers. On the other hand, West Indies could not participate in the T20 World Cup 2022 because they could not qualify in the qualifier matches, but West Indies had a good performance as the number one team in T20 at one time. However, it is expected that West Indies will participate in this year's ICC ODI World Cup.
But West Indies is a very strong team in T20 cricket.While Chris Gayle, Darren Sammy, Andre Russell, Darren Brabo, Pollard played regularly in the national team.West Indies have achieved the distinction of being the best in the world twice in T20.However, the team has become relatively weak due to the retirement of some of their best players.
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But West Indies is a very strong team in T20 cricket.While Chris Gayle, Darren Sammy, Andre Russell, Darren Brabo, Pollard played regularly in the national team.West Indies have achieved the distinction of being the best in the world twice in T20.However, the team has become relatively weak due to the retirement of some of their best players.

West Indies rarely perform well in any of the formats nowadays. First of all, it is rare for their senior players to appear for the national team. I don't even remember when was the last time player such as Sunil Narine and Kieron Pollard turned out for West Indies. These guys prefer franchise cricket over international duty (which is not necessarily a bad thing). And as you pointed out, they are struggling to replace their retiring players. Younger players like Pooran, Riefer and Gayle, Sammy and Bravo.

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I also hope that these two teams which you have mentioned West Indies and Srilanka teams will qualify for the world cup. Both will try to its best to be qualified for upcoming world cup. Between these two teams I am pretty sure that the West Indies team will definitely qualify for the world cup this is my point of view others may disagree.
Sri Lanka won the title of champion in the last 2022 Asia Cup, but Sri Lanka could not qualify for this year's ICC ODI Men's World Cup, but they have to play the qualifiers. On the other hand, West Indies could not participate in the T20 World Cup 2022 because they could not qualify in the qualifier matches, but West Indies had a good performance as the number one team in T20 at one time. However, it is expected that West Indies will participate in this year's ICC ODI World Cup.
As far as I know 10 teams have directly qualified for the main round of ICC Cricket World Cup 2023. These teams are Australia, India, England, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lnaka, South Africa, Bangladesh and Afghanistan included in the list of ten. One team will come from playing the qualifiers match. This year the 13th ODI World Cup will be held with the participation of total 11 teams.

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March 08, 2023, 02:05:03 PM
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I also hope that these two teams which you have mentioned West Indies and Srilanka teams will qualify for the world cup. Both will try to its best to be qualified for upcoming world cup. Between these two teams I am pretty sure that the West Indies team will definitely qualify for the world cup this is my point of view others may disagree.

Not possible mate! Only one country would qualify if you understand how the qualification works. If you do not have any idea before replying then always do some research before replying.
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But West Indies is a very strong team in T20 cricket.While Chris Gayle, Darren Sammy, Andre Russell, Darren Brabo, Pollard played regularly in the national team.West Indies have achieved the distinction of being the best in the world twice in T20.However, the team has become relatively weak due to the retirement of some of their best players.
West Indies rarely perform well in any of the formats nowadays. First of all, it is rare for their senior players to appear for the national team. I don't even remember when was the last time player such as Sunil Narine and Kieron Pollard turned out for West Indies. These guys prefer franchise cricket over international duty (which is not necessarily a bad thing). And as you pointed out, they are struggling to replace their retiring players. Younger players like Pooran, Riefer and Gayle, Sammy and Bravo.

West Indies is not paying the players as much as they should. Actually, they cannot pay those players as much as the players are getting paid from different T20 franchises. Moreover, when they ask for more salary from the West Indies cricket board, they suddenly have issues with the cricket board.

So it is better for the players to play in different T20 leagues instead of hoping for things to get better in West Indies with the West Indies cricket board.

Yes, that is not good for West Indies. But the players are having good pay. But if this continues, eventually there will not be good enough players being produced from West Indies to play in T20 leagues all across the world.

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The last tri-series in the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup League 2 will start today. Nepal will be playing against Papua New Guinea at Kirtipur. All the participating teams have 4 matches remaining now (2 against each other). PNG is already out of contention for the top-3 position, so the matches are not crucial for them. But in case either Nepal or the United Arab Emirates are able to win all the remaining 4 matches, then they will be able to overtake Namibia for the 3rd position. And that will allow them to participate in the 2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier. Remaining teams need to first participate in the 2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier Play-off.

Nepal needs a win today. A loss will have huge negative impact, in terms of ICC funding and chances of qualifying for the 2023 ODI World Cup. The match will begin in less than one hour and they have included all of their star players in the XI - Sandeep Lamichhane, Rohit Paudel and Gyanendra Malla. 

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