ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

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This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup.  
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

You might be living among terrorists or I guess you are now least bothered with what is happening near you. We Indians are living in peace and yes we do fear for our lives. After Modi became the PM of our country we have not seen any terrorist activities like what used to happen when Congress was in power. Our country is more focused on the growth & upliftment of every citizen economically and to an extent, our PM has been able to do it.

Indian cricket has thrived without a single bilateral series with Pakistan but unfortunately, Pakistan has not, and nor has the country.  BCCI does not need revenue from a single match, ODIWC, and Asia Cup. BCCI has IPL and now it has WIPL.

Except for the Punjab province of Pakistan, all other provinces are struggling and people are dying for food. When Pakistan cannot provide food security to its own citizens how can it provide life security to Indian players? Think about it! Rather thinking about India or BCCI.

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[savetheFORUM]

Sethi and PCB's officials should have some self-respect. They again repeated the same question in ACC meeting which was scheduled in Bahrain and BCCI said No again. I would say Props to Pakistan if they opt to boycott the upcoming WC.

Terrorists popping up here n there and blowing the majids and innocent police officers but sure security of players is not an issue at all. Security is the biggest issue for Indian team, that's why everyone from the PCB keeps offering Presidential security to every visiting team. Think about repercussions if something goes wrong, even if there is a 1% chance. Pakistan is in mess on the Western front already and it takes one security lapse to make matter worse and our Borders will become red hot.

Indians are focused on the economy and other stuff. Virtually can't afford to have another useless distraction on the border just because some privileged people want to watch cricket between India and Pakistan.

I remind you again that India is not touring Pakistan since 2008. They refused to play in Pakistan well before this latest blast in Peshawar and the excuse is same that they don't wanna go to Pakistan due to government orders.
I saw in news today that PCB has also announced not to participate in ODI world cup, which in my opinion is a good decision. Since no financial gain is superior to National Pride and dignify.

Even I have feeling here talk is completely waste of time, and we have nothing positive about this all because final decisions are coming from the relative authorities and boards but still I have feeling PCB is saying they will not go for the World Cup is not right decision because with these things can go worst for them, and they can lose funds and many more things even I have feeling India is trying hard for destroy Pakistani cricket with their power which is not possible but still right now if they have some sense they have to visit India for the world cup and also try to move Asia Cup in any other country which could be beneficial for them on and off the field but still last decision is coming from PCB and Government of Pakistan in March so lets wait and watch how things will be ended for this all.

[mm2543363580]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup. 
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

Lame fears? How dumb are you shill? Would you be willing to travel to Pakistan where bombings happen on a regular basis putting your life at risk? I don't think you would which is why you need to improve your brainpower.

Cricketers are humans at the end of the day which is why their safety matters the most to them just like any other human being.

Who say bombing happens in Pakistan on regular basis?
And England, Australia,  Newzealand toured Pakistan last year and they went back safe and alive from Pakistan. 
All of you are mixing up two different things topics , cricketing Asia Cup rights is a different topic and India rejecting to come should be main focus.

[Vaskiy]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup. 
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

Lame fears? How dumb are you shill? Would you be willing to travel to Pakistan where bombings happen on a regular basis putting your life at risk? I don't think you would which is why you need to improve your brainpower.

Cricketers are humans at the end of the day which is why their safety matters the most to them just like any other human being.

Who say bombing happens in Pakistan on regular basis?
And England, Australia,  Newzealand toured Pakistan last year and they went back safe and alive from Pakistan. 
All of you are mixing up two different things topics , cricketing Asia Cup rights is a different topic and India rejecting to come should be main focus.

Even if peaceful scenario prevails in the country, this is going to be a hard decision for India to think of a match in Pakistan. Right now few teams have toured Pakistan and are safe. Once something happens it is unable to revert and the same could turn to be a reason for the fight to continue. The people are friendly and safe, but there are groups that wants Pakistan and India to be enemies.

[posi]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup. 
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

Lame fears? How dumb are you shill? Would you be willing to travel to Pakistan where bombings happen on a regular basis putting your life at risk? I don't think you would which is why you need to improve your brainpower.
Cricketers are humans at the end of the day which is why their safety matters the most to them just like any other human being.

Who say bombing happens in Pakistan on regular basis?
And England, Australia,  Newzealand toured Pakistan last year and they went back safe and alive from Pakistan. 
All of you are mixing up two different things topics , cricketing Asia Cup rights is a different topic and India rejecting to come should be main focus.

Even if peaceful scenario prevails in the country, this is going to be a hard decision for India to think of a match in Pakistan. Right now few teams have toured Pakistan and are safe. Once something happens it is unable to revert and the same could turn to be a reason for the fight to continue. The people are friendly and safe, but there are groups that wants Pakistan and India to be enemies.

I don't find it credible that the Indian team will tour Pakistan. Firstly, the political conflict between these two countries is very old. And there is no good relationship between the governments of the two countries. So the Indian government will not want the Indian cricket team to visit Pakistan. Also the overall condition of Pakistan is not good now. Their economic condition is very bad now. Moreover, there are still various militant groups in the country. A few days ago there was a suicide bomb attack on a mosque. It is natural that no country would want to visit Pakistan in such a situation.

[Haunebu]

Who say bombing happens in Pakistan on regular basis?
And England, Australia,  Newzealand toured Pakistan last year and they went back safe and alive from Pakistan. 
All of you are mixing up two different things topics , cricketing Asia Cup rights is a different topic and India rejecting to come should be main focus.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64451936.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businesstoday.in/amp/latest/trends/story/babar-azam-shahid-afridi-safely-moved-after-blast-near-stadium-before-psl-2023-exhibition-match-369061-2023-02-05

2nd link states that Azam and Afridi escaped successfully which implies that Pakistan's players themselves aren't safe. How on earth do you fools expect anyone to believe that Indian players will be 100% safe?

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[TheGreatPython]

Even if peaceful scenario prevails in the country, this is going to be a hard decision for India to think of a match in Pakistan. Right now few teams have toured Pakistan and are safe. Once something happens it is unable to revert and the same could turn to be a reason for the fight to continue. The people are friendly and safe, but there are groups that wants Pakistan and India to be enemies.

A good review from your side this all is happening by just few peoples and groups because this is geopolitics, and we all know who is doing this all and who is taking benefit with this all situation but right now every one is going with his own benefit so with this all most chances in near future we are not going to have any improvement just in cricketing relationships others are going well and most chances soon we will have trade as well which was stopped by Imran Khan regime, but recently I have few reports many things are going to be on talk with back door talks are also in progress but keep one thing in mind cricket will be never on talk and having any positive development between these two countries.

[BobK71]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup.  
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

Except for the Punjab province of Pakistan, all other provinces are struggling and people are dying for food. When Pakistan cannot provide food security to its own citizens how can it provide life security to Indian players? Think about it! Rather thinking about India or BCCI.

When there is a famine in a country, it is natural that law enforcement will deteriorate. But it is true that financial crisis has started in Pakistan but there is no possibility of famine. As suicide bombings are frequent in their country, it is natural to worry about safety. How Pakistan can convince the world about its security matters. If they don't change the venue, the problem is unlikely to be resolved.

[ThemePen]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup.  
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

Except for the Punjab province of Pakistan, all other provinces are struggling and people are dying for food. When Pakistan cannot provide food security to its own citizens how can it provide life security to Indian players? Think about it! Rather thinking about India or BCCI.

When there is a famine in a country, it is natural that law enforcement will deteriorate. But it is true that financial crisis has started in Pakistan but there is no possibility of famine. As suicide bombings are frequent in their country, it is natural to worry about safety. How Pakistan can convince the world about its security matters. If they don't change the venue, the problem is unlikely to be resolved.

Yes that is the reason we can't convince to anyone because in Pakistan, the nation of Pakistan is also not safe so how it will convince others to come to the country. Economic crisis is on peak in the Pakistan. In the last days we saw a case of bomb blast in Peshawar in the Police line.

A visitor can ask question that if your police which will give security to us, is not safe so how can we be safe in your country. It is really difficult  to convince anyone at this time.

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Even I have feeling here talk is completely waste of time, and we have nothing positive about this all because final decisions are coming from the relative authorities and boards but still I have feeling PCB is saying they will not go for the World Cup is not right decision because with these things can go worst for them, and they can lose funds and many more things even I have feeling India is trying hard for destroy Pakistani cricket with their power which is not possible but still right now if they have some sense they have to visit India for the world cup and also try to move Asia Cup in any other country which could be beneficial for them on and off the field but still last decision is coming from PCB and Government of Pakistan in March so lets wait and watch how things will be ended for this all.

Do not worry Pakistan will not skip the world cup. PCB is showing toughness at the moment as they cannot go back on what Ramiz Raja had said when he was the Chairman. They also know the repercussions of skipping the world cup. They will play both tournaments as they know they do not have any support at the moment from other boards. But, the problem here is that they are looking stupid and desperate in front of all other boards.   

[Vaskiy]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup.  
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

Except for the Punjab province of Pakistan, all other provinces are struggling and people are dying for food. When Pakistan cannot provide food security to its own citizens how can it provide life security to Indian players? Think about it! Rather thinking about India or BCCI.

When there is a famine in a country, it is natural that law enforcement will deteriorate. But it is true that financial crisis has started in Pakistan but there is no possibility of famine. As suicide bombings are frequent in their country, it is natural to worry about safety. How Pakistan can convince the world about its security matters. If they don't change the venue, the problem is unlikely to be resolved.

Yes that is the reason we can't convince to anyone because in Pakistan, the nation of Pakistan is also not safe so how it will convince others to come to the country. Economic crisis is on peak in the Pakistan. In the last days we saw a case of bomb blast in Peshawar in the Police line.

A visitor can ask question that if your police which will give security to us, is not safe so how can we be safe in your country. It is really difficult  to convince anyone at this time.

Both India and Pakistan are not in a good position on the Safest countries list to live. For a long it is something fixed with Pakistan as a country that is not secure. The recent tour by New Zealand and other countries have made the statement wrong. The bomb blasts are still continuing and the economic situation is at its worst. While sending the team, the government will think of different things. Here we can't blame anyone for the decision of not to send team India for the Asia Cup.

[pakhitheboss]

Both India and Pakistan are not in a good position on the Safest countries list to live. For a long it is something fixed with Pakistan as a country that is not secure. The recent tour by New Zealand and other countries have made the statement wrong. The bomb blasts are still continuing and the economic situation is at its worst. While sending the team, the government will think of different things. Here we can't blame anyone for the decision of not to send team India for the Asia Cup.

Bro! From where do you get this information about the safety of anyone living in both countries? Why are you so desperate for Indian players to visit Pakistan? What would happen if Indian players do not visit Pakistan? What is the need or the urge for you to post such a reply? Just take a chill pill bro and please stop advocating for the safety & security of Indian players if they visit Pakistan.

You know and I know that Indian players will not visit Pakistan. We all know the history of these two nations. We also know how the Pakistan economy started to deteriorate after 2016.  Everything is available for you and your fellow brothers to read on the internet still you guys are posting the same shit.

All of this needs to be stopped as we are talking nonsense here and spamming a beautiful thread on cricket. Let's be wise and look forward to the neutral venue where both teams will play in the Asia cup and the ODIWC game that will be played in India.

[Marvell1]

Both India and Pakistan are not in a good position on the Safest countries list to live. For a long it is something fixed with Pakistan as a country that is not secure. The recent tour by New Zealand and other countries have made the statement wrong. The bomb blasts are still continuing and the economic situation is at its worst. While sending the team, the government will think of different things. Here we can't blame anyone for the decision of not to send team India for the Asia Cup.

Bro! From where do you get this information about the safety of anyone living in both countries? Why are you so desperate for Indian players to visit Pakistan? What would happen if Indian players do not visit Pakistan? What is the need or the urge for you to post such a reply? Just take a chill pill bro and please stop advocating for the safety & security of Indian players if they visit Pakistan.

You know and I know that Indian players will not visit Pakistan. We all know the history of these two nations. We also know how the Pakistan economy started to deteriorate after 2016.  Everything is available for you and your fellow brothers to read on the internet still you guys are posting the same shit.
All of this needs to be stopped as we are talking nonsense here and spamming a beautiful thread on cricket. Let's be wise and look forward to the neutral venue where both teams will play in the Asia cup and the ODIWC game that will be played in India.

It is actually very simple. The Indian players do not feel very safe going to Pakistan for Asia Cup. And that's why I do not think that they actually should go. But on the other hand, that is obviously not going to be ideal for Pakistan. And before Pakistan also said that they are not going to play in the world cup if India does not come to Pakistan for the Asia cup. Because the world cup is going to be hosted by India. Problems everywhere.

I think the solution to this is very easy. Both teams need to come together and work something out. I mean both cricket boards. But that is of course not going to happen. And I do not think that anyone can decide if a country is safe or not Just by looking at the statistics.

[Haunebu]

I think the solution to this is very easy. Both teams need to come together and work something out. I mean both cricket boards. But that is of course not going to happen. And I do not think that anyone can decide if a country is safe or not Just by looking at the statistics.

Agreed. The BCCI is never going to give in to PCB's requests while the PCB are focusing on the bad options instead of thinking about the good options. Pakistan have more to lose than to gain by pulling out of the ODI World Cup.

Also, what you stated about stats related to country safety is partially true. You cannot deem any country safe just by looking at stats, but they do help for reference sake.

[Mr.corol]

England vs Bangladesh ODI series next March. England team will come to Bangladesh. Bangladesh has not won any series with England so far. I think since Bangladesh will play at home. I think Bangladesh team can win this ODI series. Bangladesh vs England ODI series will be held in three matches. Bangladesh vs England first match will start on March 1.
And the second match will be on March 3. And the third match will be on March 6.

[BobK71]

England vs Bangladesh ODI series next March. England team will come to Bangladesh. Bangladesh has not won any series with England so far. I think since Bangladesh will play at home. I think Bangladesh team can win this ODI series. Bangladesh vs England ODI series will be held in three matches. Bangladesh vs England first match will start on March 1.
And the second match will be on March 3. And the third match will be on March 6.

Several years ago (2016) there was a match between Bangladesh and England where the chance of win for Bangladesh were 90 percent but Bangladesh lost that match as well. Since then I consider Bangladesh as an unpredictable team. Undoubtedly England is a good team but their cricketing rhythm has declined in recent times. Moreover, Bangladesh often plays well in Bangladeshi venues. From that point of view I think Bangladesh can win even one match. But if England's bowler Jofra Archer can't make any impact then I would say that Bangladesh can be ahead.

[mm2543363580]

I think the solution to this is very easy. Both teams need to come together and work something out. I mean both cricket boards. But that is of course not going to happen. And I do not think that anyone can decide if a country is safe or not Just by looking at the statistics.

Agreed. The BCCI is never going to give in to PCB's requests while the PCB are focusing on the bad options instead of thinking about the good options. Pakistan have more to lose than to gain by pulling out of the ODI World Cup.

Also, what you stated about stats related to country safety is partially true. You cannot deem any country just by looking at stats, but they do help for reference sake.

So let's be fair about this if ICC changes Asia Cup venue than why not also change world cup venue and shift both to a neutral country so that both teams should play in 2 most important events of the year?

[ZAINmalik75]

I think the solution to this is very easy. Both teams need to come together and work something out. I mean both cricket boards. But that is of course not going to happen. And I do not think that anyone can decide if a country is safe or not Just by looking at the statistics.

Agreed. The BCCI is never going to give in to PCB's requests while the PCB are focusing on the bad options instead of thinking about the good options. Pakistan have more to lose than to gain by pulling out of the ODI World Cup.

Also, what you stated about stats related to country safety is partially true. You cannot deem any country just by looking at stats, but they do help for reference sake.

India and Pakistan are both necessary for each other, they are just like positive and negative pannel of cricket beauty ,if they play with each other the cricket beauty blow up, without them cricket is colour less. So I think both country should think about his crazy fans and should find a best solution for them, if BCCI didn't allow his team to Pakistan and Pakistan didn't allow his team to India and both are agree on neutral venue, then there is not better option for them because if India didn't participate in Asia Cup then it's a big revenue damage for Pakistan and if Pakistan didn't participate in world cup then it's should be a big revenue damage for India. So both board should avoid politics in cricket and just focus on enjoying cricket.

[SirLancelot]

Both India and Pakistan are not in a good position on the Safest countries list to live. For a long it is something fixed with Pakistan as a country that is not secure. The recent tour by New Zealand and other countries have made the statement wrong. The bomb blasts are still continuing and the economic situation is at its worst. While sending the team, the government will think of different things. Here we can't blame anyone for the decision of not to send team India for the Asia Cup.

After reading too many posts in this thread I have feeling we need to stop this all because we are nothing to talk about this all with nothing change going to happen in both countries policies which are having no space for each other just because of this most chances Asia Cup will be moved from the Pakistan and most chances Pakistan cricket team will also visit India for the ODI World Cup 2023 because if they will choose against this surely they have face consequences which are not good for them in current time no other board will give them any favour, and they can face backlash with their decision because this is not right time for doing things like these but what are they feeling and how they will handle things no one know right now just wait one more month and then all will be clear about this all because most chances in early days of March all will be clear and this all shit talk will be ended.

[Minecache]

Both India and Pakistan are not in a good position on the Safest countries list to live. For a long it is something fixed with Pakistan as a country that is not secure. The recent tour by New Zealand and other countries have made the statement wrong. The bomb blasts are still continuing and the economic situation is at its worst. While sending the team, the government will think of different things. Here we can't blame anyone for the decision of not to send team India for the Asia Cup.

After reading too many posts in this thread I have feeling we need to stop this all because we are nothing to talk about this all with nothing change going to happen in both countries policies which are having no space for each other just because of this most chances Asia Cup will be moved from the Pakistan and most chances Pakistan cricket team will also visit India for the ODI World Cup 2023 because if they will choose against this surely they have face consequences which are not good for them in current time no other board will give them any favour, and they can face backlash with their decision because this is not right time for doing things like these but what are they feeling and how they will handle things no one know right now just wait one more month and then all will be clear about this all because most chances in early days of March all will be clear and this all shit talk will be ended.

There is a high chance that the Asia cup is going to be moved away from Pakistan. And Pakistan will not be able to do anything because the politics of Pakistan is compromised right now. They have to solve a lot of other more important problems rather than this problem.

And Pakistan will also have no choice but to play in the world cup in India. Because without playing the world cup Pakistan is going to put themselves in a big spot of bother. And of course, that is not going to be good for the future of Pakistan cricket at all.