ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

The main reason for India's outstanding performance is that each of their batsmen is in good form. So they are not dependent on the performance of any particular batsman in the match. Every batsman in the team is able to play well. As a result, India are able to set big score targets very easily. On the other hand, the bowlers can help the batsmen very well. But I would say as the batsmen are providing big score targets, that is why India is not facing problems even if the bowlers are performing a bit poorly. Indian bowling still looks average to me.

I would argue that sometimes it could backfire badly. Considering WC trophy is on focus.

In context, when all your star batters peak at the same time, and that too when the main event is almost 9 months away.

There is a concept when you peak as a team. Some peak before and very few reach their best level when the main event is around the corner, that's what worries me as an ICT fan.

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[BobK71]

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Yeh absolutely some of his crutial player are missing the big series against India, the player like Kane Williamson, Glenn Phillips, Trent Boult, Tim Southee, Ish Sodhi and many more who can contribute with team performance in order to prevent his team whitewash defeat against India in this ODI series. I don't want to say that India beat the team whose key player are missing but just I want to say that if these player were available for this series then it will be nail biting match and may be the result will be different.

New Zealand missed Kane Williamson without a doubt but do you really think that Trent Boult and Tim Southee could make a difference in Indian conditions. The first match was really interesting as Michael Bracewell took the team from an impossible situation to a near victory but then the rest were clearly one sided encounters.

No doubt Michael Bracewell do some sensational performance he play some brutal inning against indian bowler but unfortunately didn't help his team to win, while the absence of Kane Williamson really affect their batting strength because his recent performance against Pakistan show us how can he will be really helpful for his team in the series against India , while in this series most of good performance were shown by indian fast bowler compare to spinner so if Tim Southee and Trent Boult were included in squad they may also got hight wickets like indian fast bowler and will safe his team from whitewash.

New Zealand might have been stronger if Tim Southee and Trent Boult were in the team. It was the credit of the Indian batsmen and bowlers. Because of their performance, a top class team New Zealand has been whitewashed. Only two batsmen scored good runs but almost everyone except Hardik Pandya scored low. If the top order four batsman can complete the game then I think India will definitely win most of the match. New Zealand had a good start but failed at the end. Michael Bracewell could not give anything good for the team in the last match of ODI series.

[S A KHAIR]

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Yeh absolutely some of his crutial player are missing the big series against India, the player like Kane Williamson, Glenn Phillips, Trent Boult, Tim Southee, Ish Sodhi and many more who can contribute with team performance in order to prevent his team whitewash defeat against India in this ODI series. I don't want to say that India beat the team whose key player are missing but just I want to say that if these player were available for this series then it will be nail biting match and may be the result will be different.

New Zealand missed Kane Williamson without a doubt but do you really think that Trent Boult and Tim Southee could make a difference in Indian conditions. The first match was really interesting as Michael Bracewell took the team from an impossible situation to a near victory but then the rest were clearly one sided encounters.

No doubt Michael Bracewell do some sensational performance he play some brutal inning against indian bowler but unfortunately didn't help his team to win, while the absence of Kane Williamson really affect their batting strength because his recent performance against Pakistan show us how can he will be really helpful for his team in the series against India , while in this series most of good performance were shown by indian fast bowler compare to spinner so if Tim Southee and Trent Boult were included in squad they may also got hight wickets like indian fast bowler and will safe his team from whitewash.

New Zealand might have been stronger if Tim Southee and Trent Boult were in the team. It was the credit of the Indian batsmen and bowlers. Because of their performance, a top class team New Zealand has been whitewashed. Only two batsmen scored good runs but almost everyone except Hardik Pandya scored low. If the top order four batsman can complete the game then I think India will definitely win most of the match. New Zealand had a good start but failed at the end. Michael Bracewell could not give anything good for the team in the last match of ODI series.

We have to accept that Indian players have played very well in this series. Due to the excellent performance of the Indian batsmen in the first match, India set a target of more than 350. And in the second match itself, New Zealand's batting disaster was witnessed due to the outstanding performance of the Indian bowlers. And in the last match as well, the two Indian openers had a partnership of over 200. It is because of the excellent performance of the bowlers and batsmen that they have been able to whitewash a team like New Zealand.

[ZAINmalik75]

I missed the last match Between India and New Zealand. Once again, Rohit Sharma and Shubman Gill gave India a Flying start. Both got Century, and they scored a massive 385. Devon Conway and Henry Nicholls played well, and they had enough overs in hand to win the match. Unfortunately, they could not score it while Kuldeep Yadav and Shardul Thakur restricted them to 295 runs. Congratulations, team India.

The main reason for India's outstanding performance is that each of their batsmen is in good form. So they are not dependent on the performance of any particular batsman in the match. Every batsman in the team is able to play well. As a result, India are able to set big score targets very easily. On the other hand, the bowlers can help the batsmen very well.

India are always known for his strong batting lineup they always produce dozen of potential batter, it's true that in recent time most of indian player are in really good form as compared to previous year where they failed in every competition. But now the best news for them are that his captain Rohit Sharma (hitman) which are out of form for a long period of time come in form recently also king Kohli too. Every single player like S.Gill , Siraj, l.kishan , U.Malik, Shami and many more give Thier best to fulfill the team needs at perfect time.

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I missed the last match Between India and New Zealand. Once again, Rohit Sharma and Shubman Gill gave India a Flying start. Both got Century, and they scored a massive 385. Devon Conway and Henry Nicholls played well, and they had enough overs in hand to win the match. Unfortunately, they could not score it while Kuldeep Yadav and Shardul Thakur restricted them to 295 runs. Congratulations, team India.

The main reason for India's outstanding performance is that each of their batsmen is in good form. So they are not dependent on the performance of any particular batsman in the match. Every batsman in the team is able to play well. As a result, India are able to set big score targets very easily. On the other hand, the bowlers can help the batsmen very well.

India are always known for his strong batting lineup they always produce dozen of potential batter, it's true that in recent time most of indian player are in really good form as compared to previous year where they failed in every competition. But now the best news for them are that his captain Rohit Sharma (hitman) which are out of form for a long period of time come in form recently also king Kohli too. Every single player like S.Gill , Siraj, l.kishan , U.Malik, Shami and many more give Thier best to fulfill the team needs at perfect time.

That's true India have always been known for world best batting lineup and they always had best batsman but receny the thing that made up unbeatable Is their bowling that wasittle weak before . But now their balling is outstanding and is giving tough time to strong teams like Newzealand. 
Australia should come prepared for indias balling attack.

[eaLiTy]

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while in this series most of good performance were shown by indian fast bowler compare to spinner so if Tim Southee and Trent Boult were included in squad they may also got hight wickets like indian fast bowler and will safe his team from whitewash.

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

[Sithara007]

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

[ThemePen]

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

[Marvell1]

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

New Zealand is currently certainly not as strong as the other three big teams. They are suddenly lacking behind. And I have to mention one thing which is the games being played in India are obviously going to be beneficial for India.

I am not going to say that New Zealand is not capable of winning against India. Currently, I am going to say that New Zealand lost because they simply did not play well enough and wasn't able to hold their nerve. And New Zealand knows very well that the track is favoring the batting side. So, if they can somehow keep wickets in hand, the runs will come. But they could not do that as well.

[BobK71]

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

Pitch condition is one of the issues. Those who play at home ground usually get a bit more advantage. But it is not just the home ground that India is taking advantage. They won that match because of good performance. Tom Latham also said that what India did they got results but we failed in what we tried to do. India's luck and form were both good. In the last match of the series, New Zealand were in the rhythm early but after that rhythm collapsed, they could not recover the match.

[coinerer]

If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

New Zealand was a good team in cricket but now their performance is not looking good and India England and Australia have gone to a big stage and they have dominated the game of cricket and New Zealand has dropped their performance a lot from earlier. India vs New Zealand T20 match is going to start again soon after the ODI match, let's see how New Zealand perform poorly in ODIs but how they can do in T20 games.

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If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.

That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

Yes it's true that the New Zealand pacers performed really bad. Don't know the reason may be practice issue. Or I think they didn't understand the pitch situation. And one more big reason is that India's team was very strong. Its player were understanding the bowling and they know that how to beat them.
By the way New Zealand needs more practice to perform well in the ICC world cup.

New Zealand was a good team in cricket but now their performance is not looking good and India England and Australia have gone to a big stage and they have dominated the game of cricket and New Zealand has dropped their performance a lot from earlier. India vs New Zealand T20 match is going to start again soon after the ODI match, let's see how New Zealand perform poorly in ODIs but how they can do in T20 games.

Newzealand recently played series with Pakistan and won that series with 2-1  but obviously this is India who were opposite to them , the strongest team right now so defeating them was a task for them.
Now T20 series is starting today let's see how Newzealand will perform in that , may be they recover and learn from their previous mistakes and win this one.

[laurenB7742]

South Africa - England

South Africa won the toss and batted in the first ODI match against England. South Africa managed to collect 61 runs in the first wicket pair. A good enough collection. And at the end of 10 overs, South Africa collected 71 runs. South Africa's batsmen have got off to a good start. South Africa should not forget their opponent England. England is a very strong team. So if they want to win against England, South Africa will have to give a big target. The pitch is not bowling-friendly. Batsmen are scoring runs easily. So my guess is that South Africa will not win if they give a target of less than 320 today.

[impulse709]

1st ODI match started today between South Africa Cricket Team and England Cricket Team. South Africa cricket team won the toss and started batting South Africa cricket team's batting is very much in slow motion. England cricket team bowlers also seem to be good at bowling. But if the bowlers of England cricket team can strengthen the bowling line-up, then the score of South Africa cricket team will be within the reach of England cricket team.

[mm2543363580]

South Africa - England

South Africa won the toss and batted in the first ODI match against England. South Africa managed to collect 61 runs in the first wicket pair. A good enough collection. And at the end of 10 overs, South Africa collected 71 runs. South Africa's batsmen have got off to a good start. South Africa should not forget their opponent England. England is a very strong team. So if they want to win against England, South Africa will have to give a big target. The pitch is not bowling-friendly. Batsmen are scoring runs easily. So my guess is that South Africa will not win if they give a target of less than 320 today.

England vs South Africa 1st ODI
South Africa chose to bat first and they started good and lost 2 wickets before 100 runs , now after 32 overs South Africa is on 175 runs 4 wickets gone .
England balling is definitely putting pressure on South African batsman and controlling their run rate which is 5.66 right now.

[impulse709]

In the ODI series, South Africa's batting in the first innings has so far completed 28.4 overs. South Africa cricket team lost three wickets in 28.4 overs. South Africa have seven more wickets in hand. How well South Africa's remaining wickets will perform is impossible to say. On the other hand, England cricket team also has very good playing skills. Today's match is expected to be an exciting one. South Africa's score so far, 155-3 (28.4)

[keyscore44]

In the ODI series, South Africa's batting in the first innings has so far completed 28.4 overs. South Africa cricket team lost three wickets in 28.4 overs. South Africa have seven more wickets in hand. How well South Africa's remaining wickets will perform is impossible to say. On the other hand, England cricket team also has very good playing skills. Today's match is expected to be an exciting one. South Africa's score so far, 155-3 (28.4)

South Africa team is playing very well so far. They have lost 4 wickets and managed to score more than 200 runs so far. There are still 15 overs to play. Hope to be able to give a good target.

[ZAINmalik75]

South Africa - England

Yeh I think taking decision of batting first is a wise choice because pitch are not bowler friendly so it's a great chance for SouthAfrica to build a strong target to defend, now the initial batter like De kock and the captain T.bavuma didn't score good to give a strong momentum to upcoming batter for good target. Now Van Der dussen take a charge and score a good partnership 71 runs with a klassen but now it's broken only van der dussen left with 70 not out . South Africa has totally 202 runs in 36 over while four batter are down

[onecall123]

South Africa - England

South Africa won the toss and batted in the first ODI match against England. South Africa managed to collect 61 runs in the first wicket pair. A good enough collection. And at the end of 10 overs, South Africa collected 71 runs. South Africa's batsmen have got off to a good start. South Africa should not forget their opponent England. England is a very strong team. So if they want to win against England, South Africa will have to give a big target. The pitch is not bowling-friendly. Batsmen are scoring runs easily. So my guess is that South Africa will not win if they give a target of less than 320 today.

SA 232/4 (41.3/50 over)
It's just a matter of speeding up the run rate for South Africa. A good wicket for batting but too slow for batting. Rassie van der Dussen has batted well so far. He has now reached his 12th ODI half-century and is still going strong. SA will be fine if they just increase their scoring rate a bit. However, he cannot afford to take any risks since only Miller and he remain as recognized batsmen. It is recommended that they bat until the 45th over, then bat hard in the last 5 overs to reach 320+ by the end.

[keyscore44]

South Africa - England

Yeh I think taking decision of batting first is a wise choice because pitch are not bowler friendly so it's a great chance for SouthAfrica to build a strong target to defend, now the initial batter like De kock and the captain T.bavuma didn't score good to give a strong momentum to upcoming batter for good target. Now Van Der dussen take a charge and score a good partnership 71 runs with a klassen but now it's broken only van der dussen left with 70 not out . South Africa has totally 202 runs in 36 over while four batter are down

As far as I know England cricket team plays very good cricket. A target of more than 300 runs against them in a 50 over match is very good. Because there are some good batsmen in the England team, who can win the match once they form a partnership between themselves.