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January 28, 2023, 08:45:54 AM
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England's posibility of winning yesterday's match were high but who expected that they lose in that match? In the second innings England bat against 298 runs where Jason Roy and Dawid Malan scored significantly well but other teammates failed. As a result, they had to be defeated even in an easy match. This is the first match of the series there will have two matches left so England will be desperate to keep the series alive.
Myself believed England will win the match till it was 266/7. Once England lost the wicket of Sam Curran I lost the hope, because the tail end players can't be expected to score against the bowlers of South Africa. Anrich Nortje contributed good taking 4 wickets. For England the opening is good, and the middle order didn't contribute. If the middle order had added few runs, the tail end would've taken the match towards a win as there won't be much of pressure.
At one point England totally owned that game but last 3 wickets fell quickly and they lost the game.
South Africa ballers definitely nailed it and they earned this victory for their country,  although they managed to give a good target of 295 but for England apparently that was easy to chase which didn't happen obviously due to good balling side if South Africa.

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January 28, 2023, 08:54:13 AM
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Yesterday's win may prove to be very crucial for South Africa. Now they have 69 points from 20 matches in the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. They just need two more wins to overtake West Indies. It should not be much of a problem, given that two of their remaining matches are against Netherlands. Even then, one more win against England in the remaining two ODIs should place them in a very comfortable position. As things stand now, South Africa will gain direct qualification to the ODI World Cup, while West Indies and Sri Lanka will be playing the qualifier tournament in order to gain entry.

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will run from 18th June to 9th July this year. Apart from the 5 bottom ranking teams from the Cricket World Cup Super League (as per current situation - West Indies, Sri Lanka, Ireland, Zimbabwe and Netherlands), there will be 3 teams from League 2 (most probably Scotland, Oman and Namibia), and 2 teams from the Qualifier Play-off (maybe USA and Nepal?).
This year's Cricket World Cup will be very grand All the cricket teams are preparing themselves brilliantly. In this year's World Cup, the Indian team is very promising, besides, these teams have opportunities in Australia, New Zealand, England.

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January 28, 2023, 09:13:32 AM
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Yesterday's win may prove to be very crucial for South Africa. Now they have 69 points from 20 matches in the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. They just need two more wins to overtake West Indies. It should not be much of a problem, given that two of their remaining matches are against Netherlands. Even then, one more win against England in the remaining two ODIs should place them in a very comfortable position. As things stand now, South Africa will gain direct qualification to the ODI World Cup, while West Indies and Sri Lanka will be playing the qualifier tournament in order to gain entry.

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will run from 18th June to 9th July this year. Apart from the 5 bottom ranking teams from the Cricket World Cup Super League (as per current situation - West Indies, Sri Lanka, Ireland, Zimbabwe and Netherlands), there will be 3 teams from League 2 (most probably Scotland, Oman and Namibia), and 2 teams from the Qualifier Play-off (maybe USA and Nepal?).
This year's Cricket World Cup will be very grand All the cricket teams are preparing themselves brilliantly. In this year's World Cup, the Indian team is very promising, besides, these teams have opportunities in Australia, New Zealand, England.
This year is going to be cricket year world cup,  Asia Cup  , leagues and so much more .
Psl ,ipl is around the corner and this is a treat for cricket fans , hopefully this venue issue should be cleared in few days so that both countries should take a sigh of relief. 
Sirlanka,  West Indies are good teams and they can beat any team in their good days .

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January 28, 2023, 04:12:27 PM
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Yesterday's win may prove to be very crucial for South Africa. Now they have 69 points from 20 matches in the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. They just need two more wins to overtake West Indies. It should not be much of a problem, given that two of their remaining matches are against Netherlands. Even then, one more win against England in the remaining two ODIs should place them in a very comfortable position. As things stand now, South Africa will gain direct qualification to the ODI World Cup, while West Indies and Sri Lanka will be playing the qualifier tournament in order to gain entry.

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will run from 18th June to 9th July this year. Apart from the 5 bottom ranking teams from the Cricket World Cup Super League (as per current situation - West Indies, Sri Lanka, Ireland, Zimbabwe and Netherlands), there will be 3 teams from League 2 (most probably Scotland, Oman and Namibia), and 2 teams from the Qualifier Play-off (maybe USA and Nepal?).

First of all, it was a great performance in South Africa. They did very well too. Give a target close to 300 Rassie got his century. It was a well constructed century as well. Overall a great performance from all the players of South Africa. And we also can see that this performance was not only good in one inning from South Africa. They perform well in both innings. In batting and bowling both.

On the other hand, England's batting performance was not very good. The openers played really well. And the way England started I thought they are going to win. Jason Roy and David Malan performed really well. But other than that, the other batman of England absolutely failed to do any kind of scoring. This is certainly a great performance from South Africa and let's see how they perform going forward.

With England batting first and scoring 146 runs, the Proteas turned the match on its head in the middle overs with their outstanding bowling performance. It was a great captaincy by Bavuma and a good fightback by the bowlers that led to the victory. A breakthrough was made by Magala, and from then on, every fall of a wicket inspired the guys to believe. For the Proteas, qualification into the World Cup Super League automatically is crucial following the South Africa vs England series.
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Yesterday's win may prove to be very crucial for South Africa. Now they have 69 points from 20 matches in the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. They just need two more wins to overtake West Indies. It should not be much of a problem, given that two of their remaining matches are against Netherlands. Even then, one more win against England in the remaining two ODIs should place them in a very comfortable position. As things stand now, South Africa will gain direct qualification to the ODI World Cup, while West Indies and Sri Lanka will be playing the qualifier tournament in order to gain entry.

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will run from 18th June to 9th July this year. Apart from the 5 bottom ranking teams from the Cricket World Cup Super League (as per current situation - West Indies, Sri Lanka, Ireland, Zimbabwe and Netherlands), there will be 3 teams from League 2 (most probably Scotland, Oman and Namibia), and 2 teams from the Qualifier Play-off (maybe USA and Nepal?).
This year's Cricket World Cup will be very grand All the cricket teams are preparing themselves brilliantly. In this year's World Cup, the Indian team is very promising, besides, these teams have opportunities Australia, New Zealand, England.
Yeh absolutely all team are preparing themselves brilliantly and no doubt due to recent performances of indain team they are favorite for any upcoming competition, but you can't underestimate the main rival of india which is Pakistan. Most of Pakistani player showing phenomenal performances in BPL so I think Pakistan will give tough time to indian batter because of world class bowler and also in batting the current king of ODI format Pakistani Captain Baber Azam has ability to brutally punish every opponent bowler. So keep eyes on them also. Wink

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January 28, 2023, 05:29:42 PM
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With England batting first and scoring 146 runs, the Proteas turned the match on its head in the middle overs with their outstanding bowling performance. It was a great captaincy by Bavuma and a good fightback by the bowlers that led to the victory. A breakthrough was made by Magala, and from then on, every fall of a wicket inspired the guys to believe. For the Proteas, qualification into the World Cup Super League automatically is crucial following the South Africa vs England series.

There are three formats going on at the moment ODI, test and T20I. Its very difficult now to keep track of which team is best in which format. With first ODI result it seems like SA are good in ODI format but we need to see result of this series before making final conclusion. England made 146 runs in 20 overs yet they were not able to chase down the target.

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January 28, 2023, 06:56:01 PM
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Yesterday's win may prove to be very crucial for South Africa. Now they have 69 points from 20 matches in the 2020–2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. They just need two more wins to overtake West Indies. It should not be much of a problem, given that two of their remaining matches are against Netherlands. Even then, one more win against England in the remaining two ODIs should place them in a very comfortable position. As things stand now, South Africa will gain direct qualification to the ODI World Cup, while West Indies and Sri Lanka will be playing the qualifier tournament in order to gain entry.

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will run from 18th June to 9th July this year. Apart from the 5 bottom ranking teams from the Cricket World Cup Super League (as per current situation - West Indies, Sri Lanka, Ireland, Zimbabwe and Netherlands), there will be 3 teams from League 2 (most probably Scotland, Oman and Namibia), and 2 teams from the Qualifier Play-off (maybe USA and Nepal?).
After reading this all and checking few details I have feeling this all set up is completely crap because now they have enough teams, and they can go for the qualifiers instead of having eight teams into direct entry and just two will be joined from other teams which is not good idea as things going we need around 14 to 16 teams into ODI world cup and then 18 to 20 into Twenty world cups which will give better marketing about this game, and we will be able to have more countries and region in limelight, but they are doing things like these which are not going to have any positive impact.

Now many countries are increasing their quality and having good performance so with this all just having big-3 now it's time for adding more countries in ICC which will bring better transparency and balance as well because right now just three are doing things for their own sack, and we are going to lose another opportunity for adding themselves into Olympics which is also not good having 14 or 16 full ODI members and then 18 to 20 in T20i will be ideal situation for the all countries as recently we have good response in Women's U-19 world cup things are turning into positive way for this game.

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January 28, 2023, 07:09:06 PM
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England's posibility of winning yesterday's match were high but who expected that they lose in that match? In the second innings England bat against 298 runs where Jason Roy and Dawid Malan scored significantly well but other teammates failed. As a result, they had to be defeated even in an easy match. This is the first match of the series there will have two matches left so England will be desperate to keep the series alive.
Myself believed England will win the match till it was 266/7. Once England lost the wicket of Sam Curran I lost the hope, because the tail end players can't be expected to score against the bowlers of South Africa. Anrich Nortje contributed good taking 4 wickets. For England the opening is good, and the middle order didn't contribute. If the middle order had added few runs, the tail end would've taken the match towards a win as there won't be much of pressure.

Actually, I do not think anyone expected England to lose this match. And England was actually playing well. They started very well and were on the right track. But after the openers got out, they were not able to form any type of partnership. Jos Buttler tried to form a partnership and he was actually trying to resist the South African bowlers. But he had no support from the other end and that also put immense pressure on him. In the end, it was a problem of not being able to keep wickets in hand for England.

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January 28, 2023, 07:23:31 PM
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South Africa's team was looking strong in this match. England also tried very well. Both teams were good. In my point of view the match was interesting. South Africa made 298 runs and they gave 7 wickets but on the other hand England was trying to win but unfortunately England's team got all out in 44 overs and made only 271 runs. From South Africa team Rassie made century(111) on 117 balls.
And in the England team Jasson played well he made 113 runs on 91 balls.
Both teams played well.
In this series South Africa is having good home advantage, and they can win this series as well after first match their confidence level is very high, and they have good opportunity for having their spot in direct qualifiers as they put 298 runs I have feeling they can lose this match because current English batting is very strong, and they are capable of chasing target like this and Jason Roy and David Malan both have impressive start which help them for their cause of win this match, but their long tail were problem which were unable to handle this situation and lost quick wickets with Magala and Nortje both were at target in death overs which give them sensational win and lead in this series which is good for them and their chances for the direct entry into world cup.

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January 28, 2023, 08:01:38 PM
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England's posibility of winning yesterday's match were high but who expected that they lose in that match? In the second innings England bat against 298 runs where Jason Roy and Dawid Malan scored significantly well but other teammates failed. As a result, they had to be defeated even in an easy match. This is the first match of the series there will have two matches left so England will be desperate to keep the series alive.
I will also agro with you in this point that there few player failed to perform well in batting side. But I think England team are also tried their best because their runs score speed was also good But they suffered this loss due to early wicket fall. Moreover, South Africa got the benefit of playing on their home ground specially in the batting side. But if England's middle order batsmen could have stayed on the pitch then I think they would have had a chance to win. Reviewing this match, what I would say is that if England improve their bowling performance tomorrow, they can win.

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January 28, 2023, 11:59:45 PM
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what I would say is that if England improve their bowling performance tomorrow, they can win.
England lost the first match because their batman failed to put up any meaningful partnership after the openers gave them a century partnership and then to loose the match by 27 runs is solely because of their batsman as they could have easily won the match by just rotating the strike, but they played like amateur players, trying to score at run a ball and ended up loosing the match with plenty of overs to spare.
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January 28, 2023, 11:59:56 PM
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England's posibility of winning yesterday's match were high but who expected that they lose in that match? In the second innings England bat against 298 runs where Jason Roy and Dawid Malan scored significantly well but other teammates failed. As a result, they had to be defeated even in an easy match. This is the first match of the series there will have two matches left so England will be desperate to keep the series alive.
I will also agro with you in this point that there few player failed to perform well in batting side. But I think England team are also tried their best because their runs score speed was also good But they suffered this loss due to early wicket fall. Moreover, South Africa got the benefit of playing on their home ground specially in the batting side. But if England's middle order batsmen could have stayed on the pitch then I think they would have had a chance to win. Reviewing this match, what I would say is that if England improve their bowling performance tomorrow, they can win.
England was in good position even though the middle batsmen failed to support with the scores, but the unwanted wickets of Mohammad Ali and Curran when they need to be more responsible scoring was a big mistake. The thing is that they had enough balls, which means they're not in a pressure to go for big shots. Taking ones and two's itself enough to win the match.
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January 29, 2023, 12:57:03 AM
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South Africa's team was looking strong in this match. England also tried very well. Both teams were good. In my point of view the match was interesting. South Africa made 298 runs and they gave 7 wickets but on the other hand England was trying to win but unfortunately England's team got all out in 44 overs and made only 271 runs. From South Africa team Rassie made century(111) on 117 balls.
And in the England team Jasson played well he made 113 runs on 91 balls.
Both teams played well.
England are a much stronger side than South Africa in comparison, but sadly England have lost seven of their last eight matches with just one win on their report.  But England has performed well in every match. They scored 146 runs for no wicket in 19.3 overs in the last ODI match where they were bowled out for 271 runs against a target of 299 runs. Here is the great failure of England. Roy, David Malan, Josh Butler, except these three batsmen, none of them could perform well. So the first match was lost due to poor performance.

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January 29, 2023, 04:16:48 AM
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South Africa's team was looking strong in this match. England also tried very well. Both teams were good. In my point of view the match was interesting. South Africa made 298 runs and they gave 7 wickets but on the other hand England was trying to win but unfortunately England's team got all out in 44 overs and made only 271 runs. From South Africa team Rassie made century(111) on 117 balls.
And in the England team Jasson played well he made 113 runs on 91 balls.
Both teams played well.
England are a much stronger side than South Africa in comparison, but sadly England have lost seven of their last eight matches with just one win on their report.  But England has performed well in every match. They scored 146 runs for no wicket in 19.3 overs in the last ODI match where they were bowled out for 271 runs against a target of 299 runs. Here is the great failure of England. Roy, David Malan, Josh Butler, except these three batsmen, none of them could perform well. So the first match was lost due to poor performance.
England has always maintained its position at the top level of the ICC Cricket Rankings but in recent times they have had to drop down a bit from that position. Especially in the ODI ranking, England is currently at the 4th position. New Zealand is one step ahead of them. New Zealand have played a total of 29 matches with 3229 points and England have collected 3450 points from 31 matches. However, in ODI cricket, they will again bring good form with the upcoming ODI World Cup.

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January 29, 2023, 04:45:31 AM
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South Africa's team was looking strong in this match. England also tried very well. Both teams were good. In my point of view the match was interesting. South Africa made 298 runs and they gave 7 wickets but on the other hand England was trying to win but unfortunately England's team got all out in 44 overs and made only 271 runs. From South Africa team Rassie made century(111) on 117 balls.
And in the England team Jasson played well he made 113 runs on 91 balls.
Both teams played well.
England are a much stronger side than South Africa in comparison, but sadly England have lost seven of their last eight matches with just one win on their report.  But England has performed well in every match. They scored 146 runs for no wicket in 19.3 overs in the last ODI match where they were bowled out for 271 runs against a target of 299 runs. Here is the great failure of England. Roy, David Malan, Josh Butler, except these three batsmen, none of them could perform well. So the first match was lost due to poor performance.
England has always maintained its position at the top level of the ICC Cricket Rankings but in recent times they have had to drop down a bit from that position. Especially in the ODI ranking, England is currently at the 4th position. New Zealand is one step ahead of them. New Zealand have played a total of 29 matches with 3229 points and England have collected 3450 points from 31 matches. However, in ODI cricket, they will again bring good form with the upcoming ODI World Cup.
According to my suggestion England team should change something in the teams that will better for the team. Because they are now coming down and this is not good for the England team. If this team want to stand in the ICC world cup they need much more practice and should resolve the mismanagement issues.
By the way Good luck for South Africa team.

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January 29, 2023, 05:46:23 AM
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South Africa's team was looking strong in this match. England also tried very well. Both teams were good. In my point of view the match was interesting. South Africa made 298 runs and they gave 7 wickets but on the other hand England was trying to win but unfortunately England's team got all out in 44 overs and made only 271 runs. From South Africa team Rassie made century(111) on 117 balls.
And in the England team Jasson played well he made 113 runs on 91 balls.
Both teams played well.
England are a much stronger side than South Africa in comparison, but sadly England have lost seven of their last eight matches with just one win on their report.  But England has performed well in every match. They scored 146 runs for no wicket in 19.3 overs in the last ODI match where they were bowled out for 271 runs against a target of 299 runs. Here is the great failure of England. Roy, David Malan, Josh Butler, except these three batsmen, none of them could perform well. So the first match was lost due to poor performance.
England has always maintained its position at the top level of the ICC Cricket Rankings but in recent times they have had to drop down a bit from that position. Especially in the ODI ranking, England is currently at the 4th position. New Zealand is one step ahead of them. New Zealand have played a total of 29 matches with 3229 points and England have collected 3450 points from 31 matches. However, in ODI cricket, they will again bring good form with the upcoming ODI World Cup.
According to my suggestion England team should change something in the teams that will better for the team. Because they are now coming down and this is not good for the England team. If this team want to stand in the ICC world cup they need much more practice and should resolve the mismanagement issues.
By the way Good luck for South Africa team.
The present squad have got good set of players. Something lacked in the previous game, the players can give the best. It was supposed to be a winning match for England, fortunately South Africa took credit of the last moments. Today's second match will be more interesting and England will surely go for first batting if they win the toss. Scoring 300+ runs seems to be interesting and today we can expect good performance from the middle order.

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January 29, 2023, 05:46:36 AM
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South Africa's team was looking strong in this match. England also tried very well. Both teams were good. In my point of view the match was interesting. South Africa made 298 runs and they gave 7 wickets but on the other hand England was trying to win but unfortunately England's team got all out in 44 overs and made only 271 runs. From South Africa team Rassie made century(111) on 117 balls.
And in the England team Jasson played well he made 113 runs on 91 balls.
Both teams played well.
England are a much stronger side than South Africa in comparison, but sadly England have lost seven of their last eight matches with just one win on their report.  But England has performed well in every match. They scored 146 runs for no wicket in 19.3 overs in the last ODI match where they were bowled out for 271 runs against a target of 299 runs. Here is the great failure of England. Roy, David Malan, Josh Butler, except these three batsmen, none of them could perform well. So the first match was lost due to poor performance.
England has always maintained its position at the top level of the ICC Cricket Rankings but in recent times they have had to drop down a bit from that position. Especially in the ODI ranking, England is currently at the 4th position. New Zealand is one step ahead of them. New Zealand have played a total of 29 matches with 3229 points and England have collected 3450 points from 31 matches. However, in ODI cricket, they will again bring good form with the upcoming ODI World Cup.
According to my suggestion England team should change something in the teams that will better for the team. Because they are now coming down and this is not good for the England team. If this team want to stand in the ICC world cup they need much more practice and should resolve the mismanagement issues.
By the way Good luck for South Africa team.
After winning the T20 World Cup 2021, now their target is the ODI World Cup but they are showing a lot of hopelessness towards goal. Although they still have enough time to recover. But South Africa deserves praise. They suddenly turned from their previous position. Anrich Nortje-4, Kagiso Rabada-2 and Sisanda Magala-3 got wickets each in the first match. The victory was snatched away from England. Another match is going to start today. But today's match will be more important for both of the team. As England failed the first match they will try to win the match.

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January 29, 2023, 07:38:41 AM
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England VS South Africa

The second ODI between these two teams will be played today. South Africa is already leading the series with the win in the first ODI. The English bowlers were helpless when van der Dussen started hitting them to score 111 runs. The English batter except Roy and Malan were all out after scoring cheap runs. Today's match would be important for the English team if they want to still remain in the series.

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January 29, 2023, 07:57:20 AM
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England VS South Africa

The second ODI between these two teams will be played today. South Africa is already leading the series with the win in the first ODI. The English bowlers were helpless when van der Dussen started hitting them to score 111 runs. The English batter except Roy and Malan were all out after scoring cheap runs. Today's match would be important for the English team if they want to still remain in the series.

South Africa has won the toss and they have decided to bowl first. Its the same pitch where first ODI was played and South Africa won by batting first. In first ODI SA decided to bat first after winning the toss but today they made opposite decision.
To me Jason Roy century was more entertaining then Rassie van der Dussen century since Roy took only 91 balls to score 113 runs with 4 sixes. Both teams are of equal strength in ODI and it can be anyone game today.
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January 29, 2023, 08:05:50 AM
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England VS South Africa

The second ODI between these two teams will be played today. South Africa is already leading the series with the win in the first ODI. The English bowlers were helpless when van der Dussen started hitting them to score 111 runs. The English batter except Roy and Malan were all out after scoring cheap runs. Today's match would be important for the English team if they want to still remain in the series.
South Africa won the toss and take decision of bowling because they know that through bowling they can hold england batter with small target which will be easy to chase for SouthAfrica batter, south Africa alredy lead with 1 match , due to this england will be under pressure. They mustly win this match in order to balance the series.
South Africa made some changes in squad they remove Magala, rabada, shamsi and bring some new faces. Thier lineup is De Kock, Bavuma, van der dussen, markram, miller, klaasen, Jansen, Parnell, Maharaj, nortje, ngidi .

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