ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[eaLiTy]

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 Why you close your eyes when you see what Indian armed forces are doing in
Kashmir's.  Indian cried when they saw united state moved out of Afghanistan and they will cry again when the Kashmiri's will get the freedom.
 

No idea what you are talking about, what is shown in your media should be fake, i have being to that place a few times and i have friends in that region and i have not seen or heard about these things from them. Yes i oppose what the BJP government did by limiting Internet connection whenever there is a protest. When it comes to armed forced yes there was a problem 25 plus years back and majority of the individual that were responsible were court martialed but you cannot repeat the same thing as if it happened yesterday.

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Currently, situation was very clear, and many kiwi players was also happy with this tour and security arrangements but still this happens mean now we have no manners just money and political influence is too much working around the sports globe.

Do you think that the New Zealand board will be benefiting if the players participated in the IPL if that is your argument. What money and political influence led to the cancellation of the tour. If you can make that clear it would be great. I have no idea about the exact reason and i am sure the New Zealand board will give a detailed report to the ICC regarding this.

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[bryant.coleman]

Do you think that the New Zealand board will be benefiting if the players participated in the IPL if that is your argument. What money and political influence led to the cancellation of the tour. If you can make that clear it would be great. I have no idea about the exact reason and i am sure the New Zealand board will give a detailed report to the ICC regarding this.

The IPL connection is actually funny. I don't think that anyone in the squad that toured Pakistan was having an IPL contract. The big names, such as Jamieson and Williamson were not part of the touring squad. Obviously the NZ board will gain a lot, because the BCCI pays around 20% of the contract value as "foreigner release fee" (BCCI wants to cut down this amount, but the ICC has remained firm so far). RCB's contract with Kyle Jamieson alone accounts for a payment of $420,000 per year for the NZC. For the boards like CSA, CA, WICB, NZC and ECB, this amount represents a significant chunk of their annual budget.

[add1ct3dd]

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 Why you close your eyes when you see what Indian armed forces are doing in
Kashmir's.  Indian cried when they saw united state moved out of Afghanistan and they will cry again when the Kashmiri's will get the freedom.
 

No idea what you are talking about, what is shown in your media should be fake, i have being to that place a few times and i have friends in that region and i have not seen or heard about these things from them. Yes i oppose what the BJP government did by limiting Internet connection whenever there is a protest. When it comes to armed forced yes there was a problem 25 plus years back and majority of the individual that were responsible were court martialed but you cannot repeat the same thing as if it happened yesterday.

As I already mention now cricket is not Gentlemen's game because after introduction of IPL money is very serious factor, and it's working around for BCCI they can afford too much luxury but still about this tour its have some other facts as well because recently we have some big changes around Pakistan which cause serious damage for few countries, so they never forget this all and try to have done something against them.

It's very long debate and I don't want to spam here about this all just want to say here in this tour cancellation is not fair enough but now done, so we have to look forward what is next coming hopefully some clear reports will appear, and we all will be able to check what was exact happen.

[bitgov]

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As I already mention now cricket is not Gentlemen's game because after introduction of IPL money is very serious factor, and it's working around for BCCI they can afford too much luxury but still about this tour its have some other facts as well because recently we have some big changes around Pakistan which cause serious damage for few countries, so they never forget this all and try to have done something against them.

It's very long debate and I don't want to spam here about this all just want to say here in this tour cancellation is not fair enough but now done, so we have to look forward what is next coming hopefully some clear reports will appear, and we all will be able to check what was exact happen.

ECB was next country to tour Pakistan and there new decision is also coming in day or two. There are firm chances that there decision will also be in negative. I feel sorry for PCB and all cricketing fans in Pakistan, as its totally unethical to cancel tour in this manner.
I don't think PCB can do much about it in ICC, as PCB is not very strong board compared to CNZ. You are right in saying that Cricket is no more game of gentleman, as boards having adequate money can turn ICC in there favor.   

[7788bitcoin]

ECB was next country to tour Pakistan and there new decision is also coming in day or two. There are firm chances that there decision will also be in negative. I feel sorry for PCB and all cricketing fans in Pakistan, as its totally unethical to cancel tour in this manner.
I don't think PCB can do much about it in ICC, as PCB is not very strong board compared to CNZ. You are right in saying that Cricket is no more game of gentleman, as boards having adequate money can turn ICC in there favor.  

There is no surprises here, England will pull out of the tournament and ECB will come out with the same statement like the New Zealand cricket board that they got news about the security threat. I am not sure about the real situation why New Zealand pulled out at the last moment even when their team was literally on the ground. There is a lot of protest coming out from Pakistan regarding the pull out from many former players.

[GbitG]

ECB was next country to tour Pakistan and there new decision is also coming in day or two. There are firm chances that there decision will also be in negative. I feel sorry for PCB and all cricketing fans in Pakistan, as its totally unethical to cancel tour in this manner.
I don't think PCB can do much about it in ICC, as PCB is not very strong board compared to CNZ. You are right in saying that Cricket is no more game of gentleman, as boards having adequate money can turn ICC in there favor.  

There is no surprises here, England will pull out of the tournament and ECB will come out with the same statement like the New Zealand cricket board that they got news about the security threat. I am not sure about the real situation why New Zealand pulled out at the last moment even when their team was literally on the ground. There is a lot of protest coming out from Pakistan regarding the pull out from many former players.

Please don't spread rumours as we have nothing serious with this all because we know all about this what's going on mostly few peoples spreading matters about this series on social media otherwise nothing serious happening, but PCB Chairman is going to talk about this in ICC meeting which is also creating just some noise nothing else because we know all top 4 boards against us, so we have to continue here with this all for some time.

[7788bitcoin]

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Please don't spread rumours as we have nothing serious with this all because we know all about this what's going on mostly few peoples spreading matters about this series on social media otherwise nothing serious happening, but PCB Chairman is going to talk about this in ICC meeting which is also creating just some noise nothing else because we know all top 4 boards against us, so we have to continue here with this all for some time.

Looks like you forgot the reason why cricket was not played in Pakistan for over a decade, Sri Lankan players were attacked in 2009 when the players were approaching the stadium and the terrorist were targeting the bus they were travelling and many of the players were injured and in another firing one of the umpires were shot and these are not rumors but what really happened and this is not the first time New Zealand cancelling a tour in Pakistan, back in 2002 they packed their bags and went home when there was a bomb blast near their hotel.

A few days more and we will see whether England will tour Pakistan under these circumstances.

[GbitG]

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Please don't spread rumours as we have nothing serious with this all because we know all about this what's going on mostly few peoples spreading matters about this series on social media otherwise nothing serious happening, but PCB Chairman is going to talk about this in ICC meeting which is also creating just some noise nothing else because we know all top 4 boards against us, so we have to continue here with this all for some time.

Looks like you forgot the reason why cricket was not played in Pakistan for over a decade, Sri Lankan players were attacked in 2009 when the players were approaching the stadium and the terrorist were targeting the bus they were travelling and many of the players were injured and in another firing one of the umpires were shot and these are not rumors but what really happened and this is not the first time New Zealand cancelling a tour in Pakistan, back in 2002 they packed their bags and went home when there was a bomb blast near their hotel.

A few days more and we will see whether England will tour Pakistan under these circumstances.

I am not forgetting anything but right now situation is not like in 2002 but still few peoples spreading feuds like this here all things going normal just Taliban take over in Afghanistan is hurting badly too few countries as they lost some big amount and few lost their supremacy. If England does not come, then still we will eat food and sleep well.

[Sithara007]

I am not forgetting anything but right now situation is not like in 2002 but still few peoples spreading feuds like this here all things going normal just Taliban take over in Afghanistan is hurting badly too few countries as they lost some big amount and few lost their supremacy. If England does not come, then still we will eat food and sleep well.

Obviously it is not a life or death situation for the Pakistani cricket fans. If the ECB refuses to tour Pakistan, then the series will be played in UAE or some other neutral destination. But in the end, the PCB will lose money, as they need to provide funds to the Emirates Cricket Board. Also, I am not sure how these things will impact the PSL. More than the bilateral tours, PCB will be more concerned about the PSL. Because nowadays franchise cricket leagues are the major revenue earners for many of the cricket boards.

[UmerIdrees]

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 Why you close your eyes when you see what Indian armed forces are doing in
Kashmir's.  Indian cried when they saw united state moved out of Afghanistan and they will cry again when the Kashmiri's will get the freedom.
 

No idea what you are talking about, what is shown in your media should be fake, i have being to that place a few times and i have friends in that region and i have not seen or heard about these things from them. Yes i oppose what the BJP government did by limiting Internet connection whenever there is a protest. When it comes to armed forced yes there was a problem 25 plus years back and majority of the individual that were responsible were court martialed but you cannot repeat the same thing as if it happened yesterday.

Either you are pretending to be ignorant just like the Endian Media or you really don't know the reality. Closing your eyes won't solve the issues.

Anyways this is not the right thread to discuss the political things, so if you further want to discuss on it i can create a separate thread in politics section.

[bryant.coleman]

I am not forgetting anything but right now situation is not like in 2002 but still few peoples spreading feuds like this here all things going normal just Taliban take over in Afghanistan is hurting badly too few countries as they lost some big amount and few lost their supremacy. If England does not come, then still we will eat food and sleep well.

It is wrong to blame the ECB or CNZ for their decision not to tour countries like Pakistan. These boards need to follow the directives from their governments. And in case of CNZ, it was the New Zealand prime minister (Jacinda Ardern), who took the decision to cancel the tour. And let me remind you of one more thing. This is not the first time these boards have done that. Even during the 2003 world cup, there were a couple of incidents when teams refused to tour Kenya and Zimbabwe for security reasons.

[JSRAW]

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One fella want to explore space and some still trying to enter in Kashmir so i would suggest that next time try not to entertain such comments and just ignore it. No point wasting your breathe.

[UmerIdrees]

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One fella want to explore space and some still trying to enter in Kashmir so i would suggest that next time try not to entertain such comments and just ignore it. No point wasting your breathe.

Take My Breath Away   
   

Watchin' every motion in my foolish lover's game
On this endless ocean, finally lovers know no shame
Turning and returning to some secret place inside
Watchin' in slow motion as you turn around and say

Take my breath away

Through the hourglass I saw you, in time you slipped away
When the mirror crashed, I called you and turned to hear you say
If only for today, I am unafraid

[nhaila]

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the  political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

[UmerIdrees]

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the  political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

Can you tell us the source of this new development ? I searched but could not find any such news of Pakistan inviting Bangladesh team.

Yeah, Bangladesh team is most welcome to come and play with us but this is ridiculous statement that they are invited to complete the PAK/NZ series.  No team can fill the gap of the NZ series but the kiwi's themselves.

[GbitG]

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the  political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

Can you tell us the source of this new development ? I searched but could not find any such news of Pakistan inviting Bangladesh team.

Yeah, Bangladesh team is most welcome to come and play with us but this is ridiculous statement that they are invited to complete the PAK/NZ series.  No team can fill the gap of the NZ series but the kiwi's themselves.

I don't think any invitation regarding this publish in any newspaper or on social media I read they are planning for exhibition match with few foreign players is possible, but It's also not confirmed by anyone.

[Vishnu.Reang]

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the  political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

Can an international tour be organized in such a short duration? And given the fact that the New Zealand tour was called off due to security reasons, it is even more unlikely that BCB would agree to a tour in such short duration. IMO, Pakistan should rather concentrate on the T20 World Cup. Less than a month remain for the tournament, and if they really want their revenge then they should try hard in winning the trophy. It will validate their argument that CNZ called off the tour because of the fear of losing.

[Mahdirakib]

After canceling newzealand and Pakistan series with the  political and governmental issues, then Pakistan cricket team invite Bangladesh cricket team to complete the series. But what would be responsed from Bangladesh cricket team?

None of them will be able to make a tour to Pakistan before the T20 world cup. Because the world cup is so close now. And Pakistan will visit Bangladesh after the world cup for playing T20 and test matches. As a result, the chance is really low to see any of them to visit Pakistan and play ODI or other series within this year.

Can you tell us the source of this new development ? I searched but could not find any such news of Pakistan inviting Bangladesh team. ~

You can check this article: PCB reaches out to SLC and BCB for short tours but no series could be planned
Otherwise watch and listen to the last two minutes of this video: PCB CEO Wasim Khan Talks On The Postponement Of Pakistan vs New Zealand Series | PCB | MA2T

[GbitG]

England also withdraw from tour of Pakistan due to region situation.     

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/england-withdraw-from-october-tours-to-pakistan-1278647

[pakhitheboss]

England also withdraw from tour of Pakistan due to region situation.     

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/england-withdraw-from-october-tours-to-pakistan-1278647

Australia will also do the same I guess. They have been doing it for quite some time now, earlier it was due to the pandemic situation and now due to the terror threat. If PCB wants to generate revenue then they should now opt for neutral venues otherwise there might be too many financial problems.