ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Minor Miner]

I am looking forward to watching another big match between India and Pakistan. This is not a national team match. Match between India and Pakistan under-19 team. But I think it will be as exciting as the national team match. Because these players will get a chance to play in the national team after a while if they can perform well. I think India will win this match. Because I have seen matches in India in the past. Indian youth have performed much better than Pakistani youth in past matches.

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[BALIK]

Bangladesh's Under-19 team played against Nepal's Under-19 team today. Bangladesh scored 297 runs losing only 4 wickets. Prantik Nowrose Nabil scored 127 runs off 112 balls. Nepal lost all their wickets for just 143 runs. I do not understand why their national team is so weak despite having such strong and talented players with Bangladesh Board. We have seen before that the young players of Bangladesh have played great and won the Youth World Cup. But the same player is not able to play well in the national team. Bangladesh's board should be more careful about these players.

Defending champions Bangladesh start their campaign in the ICC Under-19 Cricket World Cup with a convincing victory over Nepal's U-19 team. A lot of expectations from Bangladesh, here they start in a good way. Overall, the young Tigers have been doing quite well, while the national team of Bangladesh is doing poorly. There are some players who cannot perform on the national stage due to the large amount of difficulty associated with reaching the national team and the management's inability to take proper care of all players. Bangladesh's board needs to pay special attention to these players.

I would say Bangladesh team is being destroyed by their board and national team coach. Otherwise, the players who performed well in the Under-19 World Cup, played well for different clubs in the country, why they can not play well in the national team? It is the coach's responsibility to make these players more experienced. Bangladesh coach Russell Domingue is destroying the country's cricket, while the condition of Bangladesh cricket is deteriorating due to some inexperienced and dishonest people in BCB. In a few days, the situation of the team will be like that of Zimbabwe.

[mm2543363580]

Being born there doesn't mean anything. How can these players be loyal to the UAE, when they have citizenship of other countries. And it is not surprising that the Emirates Cricket Board has banned more than a dozen players in the recent times for match fixing. The only driver for these players is money, as they don't have any loyalty towards the team. I am OK with including stateless individuals in national teams. But foreign nationals should not be included at any cost. If so, the richer boards will just import players from test nations and create mercenary XIs.

Arabs have very different mentality. There is joke for them "If others can do a job why should I do that job, let me hire that person to do that job for me". Same is happening in there cricket team, they are happy to hire players from other countries and make a team. Money is not an issue for them. I feel pitty for ICC to remain helpless in all such issues.

[LittleBitFunny]

Bangladesh's Under-19 team played against Nepal's Under-19 team today. Bangladesh scored 297 runs losing only 4 wickets. Prantik Nowrose Nabil scored 127 runs off 112 balls. Nepal lost all their wickets for just 143 runs. I do not understand why their national team is so weak despite having such strong and talented players with Bangladesh Board. We have seen before that the young players of Bangladesh have played great and won the Youth World Cup. But the same player is not able to play well in the national team. Bangladesh's board should be more careful about these players.

Defending champions Bangladesh start their campaign in the ICC Under-19 Cricket World Cup with a convincing victory over Nepal's U-19 team. A lot of expectations from Bangladesh, here they start in a good way. Overall, the young Tigers have been doing quite well, while the national team of Bangladesh is doing poorly. There are some players who cannot perform on the national stage due to the large amount of difficulty associated with reaching the national team and the management's inability to take proper care of all players. Bangladesh's board needs to pay special attention to these players.

I would say Bangladesh team is being destroyed by their board and national team coach. Otherwise, the players who performed well in the Under-19 World Cup, played well for different clubs in the country, why they can not play well in the national team? It is the coach's responsibility to make these players more experienced. Bangladesh coach Russell Domingue is destroying the country's cricket, while the condition of Bangladesh cricket is deteriorating due to some inexperienced and dishonest people in BCB. In a few days, the situation of the team will be like that of Zimbabwe.

Looks like I agree with you. Bangladesh cricket is being destroyed because of their internal strife. The coach's relationship with the senior players of the team is not good. Although the team has not improved in a long time, we have not seen any change in the board or management. Talented players are slowly getting lost. The board is not taking any steps to bring them back. The board has yet to find a replacement for senior players like Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiqur who will retired very soon. I am annoyed to see the matches of Bangladesh players and the strange activities of their board.

[pakhitheboss]

Bangladesh's Under-19 team played against Nepal's Under-19 team today. Bangladesh scored 297 runs losing only 4 wickets. Prantik Nowrose Nabil scored 127 runs off 112 balls. Nepal lost all their wickets for just 143 runs. I do not understand why their national team is so weak despite having such strong and talented players with Bangladesh Board. We have seen before that the young players of Bangladesh have played great and won the Youth World Cup. But the same player is not able to play well in the national team. Bangladesh's board should be more careful about these players.

Defending champions Bangladesh start their campaign in the ICC Under-19 Cricket World Cup with a convincing victory over Nepal's U-19 team. A lot of expectations from Bangladesh, here they start in a good way. Overall, the young Tigers have been doing quite well, while the national team of Bangladesh is doing poorly. There are some players who cannot perform on the national stage due to the large amount of difficulty associated with reaching the national team and the management's inability to take proper care of all players. Bangladesh's board needs to pay special attention to these players.

I would say Bangladesh team is being destroyed by their board and national team coach. Otherwise, the players who performed well in the Under-19 World Cup, played well for different clubs in the country, why they can not play well in the national team? It is the coach's responsibility to make these players more experienced. Bangladesh coach Russell Domingue is destroying the country's cricket, while the condition of Bangladesh cricket is deteriorating due to some inexperienced and dishonest people in BCB. In a few days, the situation of the team will be like that of Zimbabwe.

Looks like I agree with you. Bangladesh cricket is being destroyed because of their internal strife. The coach's relationship with the senior players of the team is not good. Although the team has not improved in a long time, we have not seen any change in the board or management. Talented players are slowly getting lost. The board is not taking any steps to bring them back. The board has yet to find a replacement for senior players like Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiqur who will retired very soon. I am annoyed to see the matches of Bangladesh players and the strange activities of their board.

I feel there is a similar problem with the WI side and SL side. The performance of these two teams has also gone down drastically. New players are not that good enough as senior players. Coach for both the team has not done anything for the team and there is no proper coordination with the team. Board for both these team are just sitting idle and doing nothing.

[Sithara007]

Arabs have very different mentality. There is joke for them "If others can do a job why should I do that job, let me hire that person to do that job for me". Same is happening in there cricket team, they are happy to hire players from other countries and make a team. Money is not an issue for them. I feel pitty for ICC to remain helpless in all such issues.

The ICC is not helpless. They were the ones who changed the eligibility criteria, in order to allow this mockery. Previously only citizens were allowed to represent a particular country in international cricket. The ICC changed this eligibility criteria, due to strong pressure from the Emirates Cricket Board. Now almost anyone can represent a particular country and citizenship is not needed. This has in turn destroyed the popularity of cricket in countries outside the test nations, as the locals now associate cricket with foreigners.

[LittleBitFunny]

It seems that the youth of Bangladesh will continue their winning streak. Kuwait won the toss and elected to bowl against Bangladesh. Bangladesh scored 245 runs in 41 overs. Although Bangladesh lost 7 wickets, Meherob is still at the crease with 41 runs off 20 balls. If Meherob can stay in the crease, Bangladesh will collect more than 300 today.

The match of IND19 and Pak19 is also being held now. India's collection in 46 overs 205/9. Pakistan has a chance to win.

[CryptoBuds]

When the Afghanistan Under-19 team gave a target of only 196 runs, I thought maybe this time the youngsters of UAE will be able to win a match.
You know 196 was not a big target to cover up. I think UAE could have won this match if they could have stayed at the crease for 50 overs, But unfortunately, their starting was not so good. UAE just collected only 14 runs and lost 5 wickets. So much unlucky day! Bilal Sami took 3 wickets and Khalel Ahmed took 2 wickets. The result of the game was confirmed in the first 10 minutes.

[Theones]

I am looking forward to watching another big match between India and Pakistan. This is not a national team match. Match between India and Pakistan under-19 team. But I think it will be as exciting as the national team match. Because these players will get a chance to play in the national team after a while if they can perform well. I think India will win this match. Because I have seen matches in India in the past. Indian youth have performed much better than Pakistani youth in past matches.

Sorry mate, it's Pakistan who won the match today. It was a low scoring game where India was bowled out for 237 in 49 overs. Zeeshan Zameer was the star bowler who took 5 wickets in today's game. Pakistan in reply manage to reach 238 on very last ball. It must be exciting to watch but I wasn't able to see it on any sports channel.

[Sithara007]

Sorry mate, it's Pakistan who won the match today. It was a low scoring game where India was bowled out for 237 in 49 overs. Zeeshan Zameer was the star bowler who took 5 wickets in today's game. Pakistan in reply manage to reach 238 on very last ball. It must be exciting to watch but I wasn't able to see it on any sports channel.

LOL.. so this will be like the second consecutive defeat for the Indian national side against Pakistan, in the ICC tournaments. A few months back they lost to Pakistan by 10 wickets during the T20 World Cup. India is still at 2nd spot in Group A and it looks very likely that they will reach the semi-finals. The next match for India is against Afghanistan and they should win that one easily given the recent performance of the Afghan U-19 side. In case they finish second in Group A, then their opponents in semis will be Bangladesh.

[og kush420]

LOL.. so this will be like the second consecutive defeat for the Indian national side against Pakistan, in the ICC tournaments. A few months back they lost to Pakistan by 10 wickets during the T20 World Cup. India is still at 2nd spot in Group A and it looks very likely that they will reach the semi-finals. The next match for India is against Afghanistan and they should win that one easily given the recent performance of the Afghan U-19 side. In case they finish second in Group A, then their opponents in semis will be Bangladesh.

Pak and India from Group A while Bangladesh and SL from Group B are favorites for semis.  UAE team is full of players from South Asian,  I am doubtful about Kuwait.  Not much info is available about players of Kuwait on espncricinfo.com Are they also expats or native citizens ?
Pak U19 have record of winning against India U19, while national team of Pakistan has poor record against India in WC.

[TheGreatPython]

Pak and India from Group A while Bangladesh and SL from Group B are favorites for semis. 

Yeah, these four are the full members in ICC and obviously will have stronger team in U19 level as well. Out of these four teams, I predict that Pakistan U19 might get chances to clinch this edition Asia cup U19 title.

Pak U19 have record of winning against India U19, while national team of Pakistan has poor record against India in WC.

It happens. If I remember exactly in 2020 U19 world cup, India U19 lost to Bangladesh U19 in the final. I am seeing a big leap in Pakistan cricket in all format which means their new talents are getting lots of encouragement which simply reflected on U19 Asia cup as well.

[og kush420]

Yeah, these four are the full members in ICC and obviously will have stronger team in U19 level as well. Out of these four teams, I predict that Pakistan U19 might get chances to clinch this edition Asia cup U19 title.

Not to forget Afghanistan, they have strong ODI and T20I team. Cricket is as popular in Afghanistan as it is in India and Pakistan. Recent government change won't effect there team performance since they have lots of talent in there pool.

It happens. If I remember exactly in 2020 U19 world cup, India U19 lost to Bangladesh U19 in the final. I am seeing a big leap in Pakistan cricket in all format which means their new talents are getting lots of encouragement which simply reflected on U19 Asia cup as well.

Pakistanis are improving there team performance since that's the only way international cricket will come to Pakistan. If you have strong team then everyone wanna play with you. That's what new PCB chief is trying to do.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Pakistan's youths against Indian youth played very well and won. After a long time, Pakistan won against the young team of Indian. For some time Indian cricket is going bad time. Their national team performance and not very good. The players of this young group of India are very talented. They thought it would be defeated.

[galambo]

Pakistan's youths against Indian youth played very well and won. After a long time, Pakistan won against the young team of Indian. For some time Indian cricket is going bad time. Their national team performance and not very good. The players of this young group of India are very talented. They thought it would be defeated.

If you are referring to current U19 teams match b/w India and Pakistan then I would say both teams have performed very well and it was Pakistan who take away the match at very last ball. Virat Kohli was also once part of U19 team and now Captain of Indian team. Defiantly many of these players will come to there national sides in coming days.

[Theones]

LOL.. so this will be like the second consecutive defeat for the Indian national side against Pakistan, in the ICC tournaments. A few months back they lost to Pakistan by 10 wickets during the T20 World Cup. India is still at 2nd spot in Group A and it looks very likely that they will reach the semi-finals. The next match for India is against Afghanistan and they should win that one easily given the recent performance of the Afghan U-19 side. In case they finish second in Group A, then their opponents in semis will be Bangladesh.

Indian U19 cricket team performance cant be compared with Indian team performance in recent T20 WC. They scored 237 runs by batting first and was in the game till the last ball. On last ball Pakistan need 2 runs to win and it was Ahmed Khan four that take Pakistan to victory. T20 WC match was very much one sided just like Ashes series.

[UmerIdrees]

LOL.. so this will be like the second consecutive defeat for the Indian national side against Pakistan, in the ICC tournaments. A few months back they lost to Pakistan by 10 wickets during the T20 World Cup. India is still at 2nd spot in Group A and it looks very likely that they will reach the semi-finals. The next match for India is against Afghanistan and they should win that one easily given the recent performance of the Afghan U-19 side. In case they finish second in Group A, then their opponents in semis will be Bangladesh.

Indian U19 cricket team performance cant be compared with Indian team performance in recent T20 WC. They scored 237 runs by batting first and was in the game till the last ball. On last ball Pakistan need 2 runs to win and it was Ahmed Khan four that take Pakistan to victory. T20 WC match was very much one sided just like Ashes series.

I didn't knew about this match before and just came to know that Pakistan managed to win another big win against the BCCI. I told you that Indians after losing the T20 WC match won't remain the same strong team and you will see a lot of change in  top teams ranking in near future.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Pakistan's youths against Indian youth played very well and won. After a long time, Pakistan won against the young team of Indian. For some time Indian cricket is going bad time. Their national team performance and not very good. The players of this young group of India are very talented. They thought it would be defeated.

If you are referring to current U19 teams match b/w India and Pakistan then I would say both teams have performed very well and it was Pakistan who take away the match at very last ball. Virat Kohli was also once part of U19 team and now Captain of Indian team. Defiantly many of these players will come to there national sides in coming days.

Many players from under-19 teams or almost all players will get a chance to play in the national team if they can build themselves well over time. However, the role of the board and the coach is immense. The players are young. But they are talented. It is now the coach's responsibility to make them experienced.

[GbitG]

LOL.. so this will be like the second consecutive defeat for the Indian national side against Pakistan, in the ICC tournaments. A few months back they lost to Pakistan by 10 wickets during the T20 World Cup. India is still at 2nd spot in Group A and it looks very likely that they will reach the semi-finals. The next match for India is against Afghanistan and they should win that one easily given the recent performance of the Afghan U-19 side. In case they finish second in Group A, then their opponents in semis will be Bangladesh.

Indian U19 cricket team performance cant be compared with Indian team performance in recent T20 WC. They scored 237 runs by batting first and was in the game till the last ball. On last ball Pakistan need 2 runs to win and it was Ahmed Khan four that take Pakistan to victory. T20 WC match was very much one sided just like Ashes series.

I agree with your point but still this was very good match between two archrivals and have very thrilling and entertaining end with last ball four runs give Pakistan another win and now this is showing some significant change in Pakistan cricket with the arrival of Ramiz Hassan Raja he changes many things which are giving positive results for team and PCB. Even it's still very long way to go for them because they are struggling in many ways but always positive changes give good results which are now happening again for Pakistan Cricket Team and PCB. Now we will have some more competitions in future between these two teams with good and healthy environment.

[eaLiTy]

I didn't knew about this match before and just came to know that Pakistan managed to win another big win against the BCCI. I told you that Indians after losing the T20 WC match won't remain the same strong team and you will see a lot of change in  top teams ranking in near future.

Pakistan against BCCI  , why you think so because it was a under 19 India Pakistan match . So you think that a loss in a T20 match will weaken the Indian team and what do you think about the current tour of South Africa, will they show the same weakness in Test matches or just in T20 and ODI  .

If Pakistan can tour England, Australia and South Africa and starts winning series then we can say that they started to change drastically, other than that how can you compare both the teams .