ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Sithara007]

I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

I don't agree with this argument. In that case Afghanistan should be provided with a smaller fund, as the cost of living is way below what it is in Ireland. And I don't understand what does it mean to have infrastructure in football and rugby. We are talking about cricket here. Are you going to deny them the funds, giving the excuse of a few existing football stadiums? OK.. leave aside Ireland. What about countries like Nepal, Papua New Guinea and Namibia? These are also poor countries like Afghanistan. So why should there be any special treatment just for Afghanistan?

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[mm2543363580]

Too much cricket can be a reason but none of the players wants to miss IPL and neither does BCCI. Two more teams mean more chances for new and upcoming talent and $2 billion earning for BCCI. In the recent T20 with the NZ the team has performed exceptionally well under the new captain, which also proves that the leadership in the WC was not so competent.

Definitely no one wanna miss the ipl since its paying huge money which cricket player's haven't dreamed of. India is too good when it comes to playing on there home grounds. So it doesn't matter who is Indian captain on there home ground. Let's wait n see how India perform outside there country.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I have a different prespective on that. If we talk about Ireland it's a much developed country with infrastructure of football and other sports already there. But if we see country like Afghanistan or alike there is hardly any infrastructure there. Such factors must also be kept in mind while distributing funds to associate teams.

I don't agree with this argument. In that case Afghanistan should be provided with a smaller fund, as the cost of living is way below what it is in Ireland. And I don't understand what does it mean to have infrastructure in football and rugby. We are talking about cricket here. Are you going to deny them the funds, giving the excuse of a few existing football stadiums? OK.. leave aside Ireland. What about countries like Nepal, Papua New Guinea and Namibia? These are also poor countries like Afghanistan. So why should there be any special treatment just for Afghanistan?

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

[Theones]

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

Facilities like gym, running tracks and machijes that are associated with any sports are well established in countries like Netherlands, Ireland and Scotland (which is part of ECB). So it won't be fair if you giving same funds to Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, Netherlands and Scotland. The less developed countries where not essential Facilities are available should be given more of share then developed one.

[LittleBitFunny]

Well this is already huge and with two more teams in the IPL I think it will not become more intersting again as mor players from around the world can participate and with 10 teams now tournament will be much more longer and with more matches also means more income for BCCI, and I really hope this is used for thr betterment of indian cricket

So two more teams in IPL means more matches, this will disturb the schedule of international cricket as whole world is playing IPL. Recently we heard that main reason of Indian cricket team bad performance in T20 WC is too much cricket in the form of IPL. BCCI is preferring money over enhancing the performance of Indian cricket team.

Too much cricket can be a reason but none of the players wants to miss IPL and neither does BCCI. Two more teams mean more chances for new and upcoming talent and $2 billion earning for BCCI. In the recent T20 with the NZ the team has performed exceptionally well under the new captain, which also proves that the leadership in the WC was not so competent.

I think BCCI does utilize the IPL well enough to find some young talents and later develop them to be a world-class player. And if you think about other cricket tournaments like BPL for PCL, I don't think I can say the same. I mean just look at Bumrah and Pandya. They were not the same before. But India has taken the opportunity to nurture them and make them better players.

[RealMalatesta]

I think BCCI does utilize the IPL well enough to find some young talents and later develop them to be a world-class player. And if you think about other cricket tournaments like BPL for PCL, I don't think I can say the same. I mean just look at Bumrah and Pandya. They were not the same before. But India has taken the opportunity to nurture them and make them better players.

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

[goku19]

I think BCCI does utilize the IPL well enough to find some young talents and later develop them to be a world-class player. And if you think about other cricket tournaments like BPL for PCL, I don't think I can say the same. I mean just look at Bumrah and Pandya. They were not the same before. But India has taken the opportunity to nurture them and make them better players.

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

Well if someone is performing in IPL then even if there are corrupted people in system they cannot keep that player off for long time because of so much exposure in media people will soon start questioning that why this player is not selected after performing soo well...senior cricketers will say this media will say and even normal peoples on twitter will also have their say and selectors cannot ignore that for long

[og kush420]

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

T20 leagues are good to choose players for National T20 squad only. Right now whats happening in Asia is that those who are performing well in T20 leagues are inducted in ODI and Test squad. ODI and Test is proper cricket and only genuine batsman and bowler can perform there. These picks from leagues are destroying test and ODI cricket.

[ene1980]

Well if someone is performing in IPL then even if there are corrupted people in system they cannot keep that player off for long time because of so much exposure in media people will soon start questioning that why this player is not selected after performing soo well...senior cricketers will say this media will say and even normal peoples on twitter will also have their say and selectors cannot ignore that for long

If a player is performing consistently the selection board cannot ignore him for along time irrespective of whether they have IPL cricket. When you are selecting players for Test matches you cannot use the T20 performance as  a benchmark, they need to perform in domestic competition and if they are consistent they will be selected in the team.

May be there are players that are overlooked, but if they perform consistently they will be in the team.

[pakhitheboss]

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

T20 leagues are good to choose players for National T20 squad only. Right now whats happening in Asia is that those who are performing well in T20 leagues are inducted in ODI and Test squad. ODI and Test is proper cricket and only genuine batsman and bowler can perform there. These picks from leagues are destroying test and ODI cricket.

I am sure the selectors would have checked the background of the selected players. They would know who suits good for ODI and who is better for test cricket. It is not always compulsory that they check their T20 performance. Another issue is there is not much ODI or Test cricket being played and a lot of T20 nowadays. That might be another reason why these new players are being selected from T20 national league.

[Sithara007]

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

[CDC AP]

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

Yes but that would not be fair for afganistani cricketers what is their fault as if the team is banned it can be for a long time as taliban is not going anywhere now so ut means all the afganistani players will not be able to play any kind of international cricket.
Players like nabi and rashid and whole team was improving alot in cricket but don't know what can be the best way to tackle with this

[mm2543363580]

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

Political talks aside, whoever rules a country has the right to control its cricket board. If taliban are new leaders of Afghanistan then they must be given funds by icc to regulate cricket affairs in the country. ICC must audit those funds issued to Afghanistan and should suspend funds only if they are not properly utilised. That's what I think.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

Wait, why should the cricketers be punished because of some terrorists? I cannot and absolutely will not agree with this statement of yours. And tell me this why does finding the cricket team gives legitimacy to The terrorists? Everyone is not a terrorist .

[LittleBitFunny]

Before IPL, India must have been used domestic matches and tournaments to find out the new talents still IPL might have simplified their job, I agree but nothing new in terms of identifying a new talent because of IPL; it has been happening for years. Same way, we cannot say BPL or PCL or any other tournaments are not doing the same. If authorities who responsible on identifying new talent are corrupted then no tournament will help right talented people and IPL cannot be an exception. IPL is big in terms of revenue hence it is setting examples and milestones for other countries to follow.

T20 leagues are good to choose players for National T20 squad only. Right now whats happening in Asia is that those who are performing well in T20 leagues are inducted in ODI and Test squad. ODI and Test is proper cricket and only genuine batsman and bowler can perform there. These picks from leagues are destroying test and ODI cricket.

I am sure the selectors would have checked the background of the selected players. They would know who suits good for ODI and who is better for test cricket. It is not always compulsory that they check their T20 performance. Another issue is there is not much ODI or Test cricket being played and a lot of T20 nowadays. That might be another reason why these new players are being selected from T20 national league.

I think it is ok because we are supposed to watch some new players in the t20 format for almost every team as the t20 format is really fast-paced so every team needs young and agile players in the field. And as we know that t20 cricket does not require as much skill as one day or test cricket so teams often look for hard hitters and young players.

[GbitG]

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

Wait, why should the cricketers be punished because of some terrorists? I cannot and absolutely will not agree with this statement of yours. And tell me this why does finding the cricket team gives legitimacy to The terrorists? Everyone is not a terrorist .

I agree here with you why cricketers punished for this all even what happening in all world we know better, so please stop this argument about who is terrorist and who is better just talk about sports and cricket is much better than any other topic.
Few months back when Afghanistan was in real trouble but ally with the USA and their allies countries then all was OK now suddenly it's terrorist and stop cricket it's really poor feeling from few peoples with mind set about their own agenda hopefully we will have some better and safer way for all peoples in near future.
ICC also need to be neutral about this, and they need to came out from just one country influence because it's not in favour of fair play and this sports which is already struggling in few countries for surviving.

[JSRAW]

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

Wait, why should the cricketers be punished because of some terrorists? I cannot and absolutely will not agree with this statement of yours. And tell me this why does finding the cricket team gives legitimacy to The terrorists? Everyone is not a terrorist .

I'm not in favor of any kind of ban-politics of ICC in cricket, if any country wants to boycott Afghanistan team due to regime change then they can do this in bilateral level, its their right to do so. However counter argument to your comment would be. What was the South African players fault when they faced a ban from the ICC due to racial tension in their country? What was Zimbabwean cricketer's fault when their government tried to take complete control of their cricket?

[Shagnasty]

Maybe because Afghanistan is going through a tough time right now? Call of the other countries mentioned have their own cricket board and have their own sponsors. But we all know Afghanistan went to play the T20 world cup depending on the money of Muhammad nabi himself. So I think if any team needs financial support right now it is Afghanistan.

First of all Afghanistan should not be playing international cricket right now. The country is being ruled by a terrorist organization which is regularly committing mass murder and genocide. Allowing them to participate in the ICC tournaments gives some sort of legitimacy to the terror regime there. Teams like Australia have asked the ICC to suspend them, but the BCCI doesn't want that. So forget about the additional funds. They should be happy that they are still receiving some funds from the ICC.

Wait, why should the cricketers be punished because of some terrorists? I cannot and absolutely will not agree with this statement of yours. And tell me this why does finding the cricket team gives legitimacy to The terrorists? Everyone is not a terrorist .

I'm not in favor of any kind of ban-politics of ICC in cricket, if any country wants to boycott Afghanistan team due to regime change then they can do this in bilateral level, its their right to do so. However counter argument to your comment would be. What was the South African players fault when they faced a ban from the ICC due to racial tension in their country? What was Zimbabwean cricketer's fault when their government tried to take complete control of their cricket?

Yes Zimbabwe has faced ban from ICC and I dont know what is their fault, surely it was not thr players fault and they are suffering from this. Many of those now become unemployed as cricket was their source of income and they cannot get another job. It is sad to feel that because of these thing players get suffer. Yes a couple of those can play some franchise cricket but what about others

[Minecache]

I'm not in favor of any kind of ban-politics of ICC in cricket, if any country wants to boycott Afghanistan team due to regime change then they can do this in bilateral level, its their right to do so. However counter argument to your comment would be. What was the South African players fault when they faced a ban from the ICC due to racial tension in their country? What was Zimbabwean cricketer's fault when their government tried to take complete control of their cricket?

Yes Zimbabwe has faced ban from ICC and I dont know what is their fault, surely it was not thr players fault and they are suffering from this. Many of those now become unemployed as cricket was their source of income and they cannot get another job. It is sad to feel that because of these thing players get suffer. Yes a couple of those can play some franchise cricket but what about others

Yes, people who play cricket as their profession can face some really difficult times when their international cricket team gets banned from cricket. I mean it's not like football where if you get banned from international football you can still play for the league and earn quite a lot of money.

[CDC AP]

I'm not in favor of any kind of ban-politics of ICC in cricket, if any country wants to boycott Afghanistan team due to regime change then they can do this in bilateral level, its their right to do so. However counter argument to your comment would be. What was the South African players fault when they faced a ban from the ICC due to racial tension in their country? What was Zimbabwean cricketer's fault when their government tried to take complete control of their cricket?

Yes Zimbabwe has faced ban from ICC and I dont know what is their fault, surely it was not thr players fault and they are suffering from this. Many of those now become unemployed as cricket was their source of income and they cannot get another job. It is sad to feel that because of these thing players get suffer. Yes a couple of those can play some franchise cricket but what about others

Yes, people who play cricket as their profession can face some really difficult times when their international cricket team gets banned from cricket. I mean it's not like football where if you get banned from international football you can still play for the league and earn quite a lot of money.

Famous and talented players can do that but if we think about players in Zimbabwe dont think any franchise cricket would take them in their team..may be one or two at max...but for the rest their career has gone because they gave their time the sport and now they are banned and then they are left no where to go which is the reality in many sports