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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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August 27, 2022, 07:55:25 AM
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Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.
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August 27, 2022, 08:46:16 AM
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Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.

Enough for the team to beat the TNT, however, it's still too early to conclude, they are only up 2-1, if TNT will win in game 4, then it will go to the best of 3 series. Well, I'm seeing more exciting times ahead, I'm now enticed to bet on TNT in game 4 as it's a must-win for them, hopefully, some game fixing will happen.  Smiley

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August 27, 2022, 09:18:51 AM
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Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.

Enough for the team to beat the TNT, however, it's still too early to conclude, they are only up 2-1, if TNT will win in game 4, then it will go to the best of 3 series. Well, I'm seeing more exciting times ahead, I'm now enticed to bet on TNT in game 4 as it's a must-win for them, hopefully, some game fixing will happen.  Smiley

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

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August 27, 2022, 09:58:56 AM
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I agree with you that Kudos to TNT for always giving an intense game with the powerhouse SMB. But still, not until either of them gets a 4 win, the series is not finished yet. TNT should consider Game 4 as their Do-Or-Die game and feels the pressure to win.

It is a do-or-die for them. If they do not win the next game, they will be down 3-1, and against a very dominating team like SMB, they will not be able to come back from that disadvantage. They have very little chance to come back from that and I am sure, SMB will not allow that to happen. Fortunately, I think their head coach will be back in Game 4, so maybe there will be better adjustments to counter SMB.


Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

This is not sister companies' fighting each other so they may not want to extend the series. Each team might want to finish this series as fast as possible.
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August 27, 2022, 10:27:23 AM
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Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

This is not sister companies' fighting each other so they may not want to extend the series. Each team might want to finish this series as fast as possible.

Game fixing does not only exist in sister companies, what if the whole league is fixed? But that's just speculation and I know bettors love to think that the outcome is based on a certain scenario, so in this game, we are seeing TNT winning game 4, if the fixed is real.

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August 27, 2022, 11:16:32 AM
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Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.

Enough for the team to beat the TNT, however, it's still too early to conclude, they are only up 2-1, if TNT will win in game 4, then it will go to the best of 3 series. Well, I'm seeing more exciting times ahead, I'm now enticed to bet on TNT in game 4 as it's a must-win for them, hopefully, some game fixing will happen.  Smiley

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

I'm just hoping that my prediction is correct, but regardless, I will not regret betting on the TNT even if they lose. Game 4 will be the last time I will bet on the TNT if ever they lose the game, so they better win and take this series to game 7. Castro game winning last game failed, better luck next time  THE BLUR.

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August 27, 2022, 04:26:53 PM
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I'm just hoping that my prediction is correct, but regardless, I will not regret betting on the TNT even if they lose. Game 4 will be the last time I will bet on the TNT if ever they lose the game, so they better win and take this series to game 7. Castro game winning last game failed, better luck next time  THE BLUR.

I mentioned from my previous reply that Cruz really give him a tight defense with the height and speed he manages to make a good stop for Castro, but yes, If TNT's 3 super guards will workout this coming game 4 they can push for a longer series, watching the game last night gives me an idea that this rivalry is being seriously taken by both giant companies.

We have seen MVP and Al Francis Chua. Both are really watching the game and closely monitoring the referees. There's a big pressure, so for sure that game fixing might not be possible for these finals.

It's a rivalry and we see both squad are really fighting for the ball and trying to all the best for sake of winning the game.

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August 27, 2022, 06:19:34 PM
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Game fixing does not only exist in sister companies, what if the whole league is fixed? But that's just speculation and I know bettors love to think that the outcome is based on a certain scenario, so in this game, we are seeing TNT winning game 4, if the fixed is real.

Those who will include game-fixing issues in the discussion here about the series is not really watching the game. Regardless if TNT will win next game or not, that's not part of the fixing. These professional players will not ruin their career for fix match.

PBA might be full of crap politics but if they will fix a game, that will just ruined their well-established reputation that being constructed for several decades. PBA legends and gurus are watching the league. If there's a confirm rigged match, they are the ones who will voiced out first.

There's a big difference between whole game-fixing and wrong/unusual/mistake officiating.

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August 27, 2022, 07:37:12 PM
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Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win.

That was too much and you guys are disregarding TNT's talent, skills and chances of winning.

If they will win next game, that's already considered a product of game fixing?

Alright, maybe we just have to watched the game live and see for yourselves if there's something unusual on that game Smiley
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August 27, 2022, 09:35:26 PM
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Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.
I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.

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Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.
I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.

Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.

So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.

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Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.
That's what I like to see as well.  Smiley

So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.
Hopefully TNT will start strong, they need to keep the intensity high, they should be aggressive and make Fajardo in foul trouble if that will happen, Fajarco could only play a limited number of minutes. Also, Williams needs to keep his 3 points falling, that would be a big help to increase the chance.

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August 28, 2022, 07:52:35 AM
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Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.
I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.

Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.

So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.

TNT need this game or else it would be a difficult situation for them to bounce back and win the title if they are down by two games, 3-1 is not a good series even I'm a fan of SMB but for me personally, I would say that 2-2 is much better and they will be playing hard in game 5 again and bring an entertaining game system to try to win from one another.

By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue Roll Eyes

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August 28, 2022, 08:03:18 AM
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By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue Roll Eyes

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

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August 28, 2022, 08:38:47 AM
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By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue Roll Eyes

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

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August 28, 2022, 10:39:08 AM
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By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue Roll Eyes

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

As expected, TNT had a great start, if they will continue playing this way, they'll for sure tie the series. I'm also surprised that the first quarter was a low-scoring game, I am not sure if which team would favor this kind of pace.

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August 28, 2022, 10:44:17 AM
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By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue Roll Eyes

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

Watching game 4 now and Choke Reyes is the headcoach they are up by 15 in the mid of 2nd quarter, Coach Leo unable to match the guards of TNT let see if how they can manage to answer. SMB is trying to match with the small lineup of coach Choke, the dribble drive is very effective if WIlliams and Castro ae both converting.

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August 28, 2022, 10:56:53 AM
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By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue Roll Eyes

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

Watching game 4 now and Choke Reyes is the headcoach they are up by 15 in the mid of 2nd quarter, Coach Leo unable to match the guards of TNT let see if how they can manage to answer. SMB is trying to match with the small lineup of coach Choke, the dribble drive is very effective if WIlliams and Castro ae both converting.

Good Luck !

Great chance for TNT now that Coach Chot is back.  Grin

They are up with huge lead already but we know that SMB is a team that does not easily give up. 1st half may be dominated by TNT but they cannot be too complacent in the 2nd half as they know how good the SMB is. Good luck TNT backers, looks like the prediction is right, after this game it will be 2-2.

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August 28, 2022, 11:10:27 AM
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Halftime score 43-36 in favor of TNT.

It was once a 20 points lead but SMB were able to bring down the lead into a single digit.
The 3rd quarter is very important, SMB needs to play better and have a big run so we will see a great 4th quarter.

2 of the last 3 games, we have a very entertaining 4th quarter, hopefully, we can still it again tonight.



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August 28, 2022, 11:12:10 AM
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Watching game 4 now and Choke Reyes is the headcoach they are up by 15 in the mid of 2nd quarter, Coach Leo unable to match the guards of TNT let see if how they can manage to answer. SMB is trying to match with the small lineup of coach Choke, the dribble drive is very effective if WIlliams and Castro ae both converting.

Good Luck !

It's only 7 now after the second quarter buzzer sounded, so still a dangerous lead for TNT.

Just my observation, when a player from a certain team won the Best Player of the Conference award, often his team will lose the game though not always but the frequency of that from happening is so high, why is that lol.

BTW coach Chot is back and he has not lost a game yet in this finals so TNT will be motivated by that fact and of course we give credit to the guards of TNT who played so well in the first half.

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