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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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January 05, 2023, 09:33:10 PM
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As I look forward to Game 3, it went into a close game although the Dragons were able to up by a big margin.

Seriously, the Dragons should not cry out that loud on social media with regard to officiating. In the first place, they are the ones to blame for why they gave up their good lead. There should be no Ginebra rally if they didn't blew that game.

As per sports analyst, Quinito Henson, it's also worth noting that Ginebra has 57 2-point attempts in that game and that lead to more calls and a trip to the free throw line while on other hand, Dragons attempted more shot beyond the arc with 41 attempts on the 3-point area and we know that fouls aren't that present beyond the arc.

The Dragons just need to stay focused the whole next game.
They almost have that game but when Ginebra is doing some rally, their momentum got wrecked.

They are professional players they should not dwell in this kind of frustration, the series still on and they still have time to work and bounce back, that kind of gesture is not for professional players but for those who are playing from liga ng barrangay, I know the frustrations but they should not act that way.

Commissioner Marcial will be going to deal with them, and this controversy will be discussed. We will hear hopefully some updates regarding to this incident,.

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January 05, 2023, 09:39:18 PM
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As I look forward to Game 3, it went into a close game although the Dragons were able to up by a big margin.

Seriously, the Dragons should not cry out that loud on social media with regard to officiating. In the first place, they are the ones to blame for why they gave up their good lead. There should be no Ginebra rally if they didn't blew that game.
I feel their frustrations here as they lose their lead, and the game so probably this is their normal reaction to that. The best revenge is to do better in game 4 and don’t allow Ginebra to get closer for the championship. Bay Area should treat this as their do or die game, there’s a bad officiating during the game they should complain right away and not in the social media.

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January 05, 2023, 09:46:16 PM
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As I look forward to Game 3, it went into a close game although the Dragons were able to up by a big margin.

Seriously, the Dragons should not cry out that loud on social media with regard to officiating. In the first place, they are the ones to blame for why they gave up their good lead. There should be no Ginebra rally if they didn't blew that game.
I feel their frustrations here as they lose their lead, and the game so probably this is their normal reaction to that. The best revenge is to do better in game 4 and don’t allow Ginebra to get closer for the championship. Bay Area should treat this as their do or die game, there’s a bad officiating during the game they should complain right away and not in the social media.
They have to be more professionals, Ginebra fans will really be mad because of this and if there’s a bad calls why not react on that instantly. Game 4 will be more crucial for them, they are not allowed to change their import anymore and with that, they should work more as a team. For sure Bay Area is more eager to bounce back here, which is another challenge for Ginebra to play better especially on taking the early lead because it will be hard if they will chase another huge lead again.
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January 06, 2023, 06:23:31 AM
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I've read an article today, and according to it, it will still be Nicholson who will be their import in game 4. Maybe that's the reason why the odds favored the Ginebra and they are now favored by -2.5 points. This is the first time where Ginebra was listed as the favorite, and we all know that game 4 is a very important game for the Bay Dragons as they need to win to even the series.

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January 06, 2023, 07:16:33 AM
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I've read an article today, and according to it, it will still be Nicholson who will be their import in game 4. Maybe that's the reason why the odds favored the Ginebra and they are now favored by -2.5 points. This is the first time where Ginebra was listed as the favorite, and we all know that game 4 is a very important game for the Bay Dragons as they need to win to even the series.

I have also read that Nicholson won't be playing today because of injury and they will not field Powell as their import so i think that is the reason on the shifting of the odds and this may be a bad sign for those who bet for the Bay Area Dragons as not fielding an import is a sign that they are conceding this early in the series.
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January 06, 2023, 07:29:30 AM
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I've read an article today, and according to it, it will still be Nicholson who will be their import in game 4. Maybe that's the reason why the odds favored the Ginebra and they are now favored by -2.5 points. This is the first time where Ginebra was listed as the favorite, and we all know that game 4 is a very important game for the Bay Dragons as they need to win to even the series.

I have also read that Nicholson won't be playing today because of injury and they will not field Powell as their import so i think that is the reason on the shifting of the odds and this may be a bad sign for those who bet for the Bay Area Dragons as not fielding an import is a sign that they are conceding this early in the series.

Thanks for the information, it's already official, I've read the news.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/andrew-nicholson-out-game-4-pba-commissioner-s-cup-finals-ankle-injury-ginebra-vs-bay-area-game-4-a2244-20230106

This isn't fun, so what are we expecting here? Will it be an easy win by the Gin Kings, or we will see an upset?
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I've read an article today, and according to it, it will still be Nicholson who will be their import in game 4. Maybe that's the reason why the odds favored the Ginebra and they are now favored by -2.5 points. This is the first time where Ginebra was listed as the favorite, and we all know that game 4 is a very important game for the Bay Dragons as they need to win to even the series.

I have also read that Nicholson won't be playing today because of injury and they will not field Powell as their import so i think that is the reason on the shifting of the odds and this may be a bad sign for those who bet for the Bay Area Dragons as not fielding an import is a sign that they are conceding this early in the series.
Consider the series over already. Ginebra will win the title.

Nicholson will remain as their import but will not play in Game 4? I mean they are in a PBA Finals series, and you will not let any of your 2 imports play. If one of them can play, then at least let them play but they aren't doing it. That alone is a sign that the Dragons are raising the white flag. Anyway, Game 3 alone has many discrepancies and for them, it looks like the referees are favoring the Ginebra when it comes to fouls. Well, they've always been. Ooops!!! Tongue

This Finals series might be over in 5 games. I'm pretty sure the morale of the Dragons went down drastically after what happened in Game 3. They are very frustrated that even Powell and Blankley posted their feelings in social media, and they were fined because of it. For the Ginebra, it's a big achievement for them but for the Dragons, it's just a scrimmage series for them so why bother sacrificing their imports. That's what they are thinking right now.

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January 06, 2023, 08:35:39 AM
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I've read an article today, and according to it, it will still be Nicholson who will be their import in game 4. Maybe that's the reason why the odds favored the Ginebra and they are now favored by -2.5 points. This is the first time where Ginebra was listed as the favorite, and we all know that game 4 is a very important game for the Bay Dragons as they need to win to even the series.

I have also read that Nicholson won't be playing today because of injury and they will not field Powell as their import so i think that is the reason on the shifting of the odds and this may be a bad sign for those who bet for the Bay Area Dragons as not fielding an import is a sign that they are conceding this early in the series.
Consider the series over already. Ginebra will win the title.

Nicholson will remain as their import but will not play in Game 4? I mean they are in a PBA Finals series, and you will not let any of your 2 imports play. If one of them can play, then at least let them play but they aren't doing it. That alone is a sign that the Dragons are raising the white flag. Anyway, Game 3 alone has many discrepancies and for them, it looks like the referees are favoring the Ginebra when it comes to fouls. Well, they've always been. Ooops!!! Tongue

This Finals series might be over in 5 games. I'm pretty sure the morale of the Dragons went down drastically after what happened in Game 3. They are very frustrated that even Powell and Blankley posted their feelings in social media, and they were fined because of it. For the Ginebra, it's a big achievement for them but for the Dragons, it's just a scrimmage series for them so why bother sacrificing their imports. That's what they are thinking right now.

They choose to rest Nicholson because it will only give them more problems if the injury will be aggravated. After this game, they still have a chance to win but it's very slim since the chance for a team winning the championship from a 3-1 deficit is very low, but at least having him in game 5 will probably make the team better, and hopefully he is 100% that time.

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January 06, 2023, 10:33:15 AM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad
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January 06, 2023, 11:26:59 AM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad
Looks like Bay Area is not giving up, they are down but only a single digit.

The score now is 55-56 in favor of Gin Kings. I believe the deciding quarter here is the 4th quarter, and let's see if Bay Area can still keep the game close and probably win by upset here. For sure Powell and Nicholson would be so happy to see that.



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January 06, 2023, 11:40:55 AM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad
Looks like Bay Area is not giving up, they are down but only a single digit.

The score now is 55-56 in favor of Gin Kings. I believe the deciding quarter here is the 4th quarter, and let's see if Bay Area can still keep the game close and probably win by upset here. For sure Powell and Nicholson would be so happy to see that.
The Gin Kings are still one point ahead of Bay Area and both teams are scoring but only one point is different between them now that they are playing quarter four so far both teams are scoring hard. However, there is a chance for Gin Kings to win, but since the two teams are almost equal in points, it cannot be guaranteed, but Gin Kings is still showing a fairly good performance.


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January 06, 2023, 11:41:34 AM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad

This game is so excited to watch till the end as we all know how both teams defends and they have good momentum for this game I'll bet for fingers San Miguel hoping they will this game so that i will win too. But bay area dragon is very tough maybe if ginbera will win it would be single digit win. But hope they will not loss cause we all know the play of Bay Area they have very good momentum as well.

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January 06, 2023, 12:13:32 PM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad

It turns out this was a trap. Ginebra will lose this game, and the series will be 2-2.
I think they want to extend this series, we will probably see a game 7 here and there's also a big chance that Bay Area will win the championship.

A great way to rig the series, LOL.. more games means more money for the league.

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January 06, 2023, 12:18:46 PM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad

It turns out this was a trap. Ginebra will lose this game, and the series will be 2-2.
I think they want to extend this series, we will probably see a game 7 here and there's also a big chance that Bay Area will win the championship.

A great way to rig the series, LOL.. more games means more money for the league.

More money indeed lol.

Good thing that Kobe Lamb catches fire in the fourth canto that anything he throws went in but still not a good thing though that they are now just a jump-shooting team but a win is a win so congrats for those Dragons' believer out there who bet for this game 4. I hope Nicholson will be back this coming Sunday as i saw him in the Dragon's bench and he seems fine.

This series has created a lot of buzz in the social media which i think a good thing for the PBA hehe.

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January 06, 2023, 12:44:22 PM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad

It turns out this was a trap. Ginebra will lose this game, and the series will be 2-2.
I think they want to extend this series, we will probably see a game 7 here and there's also a big chance that Bay Area will win the championship.

A great way to rig the series, LOL.. more games means more money for the league.

Seems like the league is very much manipulated, look at what Bay area players claiming that ref calls are being manipulated and they got penalty for stating their sentiments regarding to that so that they will shut up. There' no free speech there so not surprising to see that they will stretch that series since this is damn business. I'm not surprised if Ginebra will win since this could bring hype to the fans compare if Bay Area Dragons will win the champ this season.

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January 06, 2023, 01:58:16 PM
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Seems like the league is very much manipulated, look at what Bay area players claiming that ref calls are being manipulated and they got penalty for stating their sentiments regarding to that so that they will shut up. There' no free speech there so not surprising to see that they will stretch that series since this is damn business. I'm not surprised if Ginebra will win since this could bring hype to the fans compare if Bay Area Dragons will win the champ this season.
Instead of investigating the whole issue, they just came up into this decision to penalized those two players for speaking out loud about the poor system of PBA, this is not the first time and yet PBA is still not doing anything.

Anyway, Bay Area won the game 4 and tied the series even without their import, its not a surprise as they are more eager to bounce back here and prove to their haters of what they are capable.
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January 06, 2023, 02:02:48 PM
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Great start by Bay Area, they seem to keep this game close, even without their import, they are still competing very well against the Gin Kings. They definitely have a chance to win here, but they should keep their composure especially in the 4th quarter where they usually choked.

Japeth was the missing link, here, let's see if he can contribute with better numbers.

End of the first half and the Gin Kings is up by 8 points.

If this trend continues, Bay Area Dragons will lose this game as they are reduced to a jump shooting team and no plays down low where they can fish for a foul which they were crying for while Cstand and Justine Brownlee wreak havoc the middle which the Dragons hard a hard time stopping.

With what a witnessed in the first half, i already accepted that i'll lose my bet.  Sad

It turns out this was a trap. Ginebra will lose this game, and the series will be 2-2.
I think they want to extend this series, we will probably see a game 7 here and there's also a big chance that Bay Area will win the championship.

A great way to rig the series, LOL.. more games means more money for the league.

Seems like the league is very much manipulated, look at what Bay area players claiming that ref calls are being manipulated and they got penalty for stating their sentiments regarding to that so that they will shut up. There' no free speech there so not surprising to see that they will stretch that series since this is damn business. I'm not surprised if Ginebra will win since this could bring hype to the fans compare if Bay Area Dragons will win the champ this season.

In several decades of the PBA, I have followed their style, of course, it's a business, as long as Ginebra makes it to the finals, expect the arena to always be full and that's a lot of money for them as well. Why should they finish the finals early because they will lose a lot of income.

Even if I look at the fight, it's overcooked, so sometimes the other referees in the PBA seem to be conspiring with the fight to be honest.


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January 06, 2023, 02:16:36 PM
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Seems like the league is very much manipulated, look at what Bay area players claiming that ref calls are being manipulated and they got penalty for stating their sentiments regarding to that so that they will shut up. There' no free speech there so not surprising to see that they will stretch that series since this is damn business. I'm not surprised if Ginebra will win since this could bring hype to the fans compare if Bay Area Dragons will win the champ this season.

Penalizing a player for bad-mouthing an organization is not exclusive to PBA. Most organization does that. That is preserving the integrity of your organization. NBA has a stiffer penalty for talking about referees. They are professional athletes, and they should know better than to talk about issues on social media. If they feel that they are being cheated, they should go through the proper channel in filing their complaints.

Anyway, Bay Area won game 4 so the series is tied again. No import, No problem.
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January 06, 2023, 02:39:17 PM
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Seems like the league is very much manipulated, look at what Bay area players claiming that ref calls are being manipulated and they got penalty for stating their sentiments regarding to that so that they will shut up. There' no free speech there so not surprising to see that they will stretch that series since this is damn business. I'm not surprised if Ginebra will win since this could bring hype to the fans compare if Bay Area Dragons will win the champ this season.
That's a bad impression for a guest team and they'll always remember that whenever they go and have it compared to any league that they've been in. Can't help that the damage has been done and the Dragons have won. We're seeing how most of their players were really contributors to the team.

Anyway, Bay Area won game 4 so the series is tied again. No import, No problem.
I'm starting to feel that this will go on to game 7.

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