2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Fredomago]

Took Magnolia ML @2.40

Nice timing, good lukc with your bet. Magnolia is a team that you can trust especially in the 2nd half as they are good in coming back. Paul Lee is playing, I thought he was injured last time, so this is a close Magnolia team that is down by a double digit. I believe they can make a come back in the 3rd quarter and we will have a close game in the last quarter.

By the way, it's already 77-75 now, ROS only is leading by 2 points.

Nice timing indeed. With two minutes left in the ball game, Magnolia is leading now with 4 points. Shots were not falling now for ROS like in the first half. It nice to see somehow ROS defeating Magnolia here but seems the experience and confidence of Magnolia is too much for ROS.

What a game for ROS, but still Magnolia shows a veterans move its just that they fell short.
I forgot to place a bet, lucky to those who took the risk for ROS. Well, PBA is getting more interesting when the top teams are playing, Magnolia incur their first loss this conference, too bad for them though, they should not be complacent next time.

You are lucky if you were to bet on the Magnolia because their win streak was stopped.

Barroca was the reason  why the Magnolia had a lead in the remaining few minutes, but unfortunately he was also the reason why they lose. I didn't see Bey taking more shots, he should be the one diving the ball inside as he could potentially get fouled, and with good FT shooting, Magnolia will surely be able to get production from him.

Just check the final update but didn't manage to watch the game, and I'm surprise knowing the outcome, Magnolia's winning streak is now being stopped by ROS, I guess there are good bettors who loves taking that big risk, they are now surely enjoying the amount of profits that they've gain, like what the post above you mentioned, it's strange that underdog wins agains the heavy favorite but that's how the game works.

One will win and the other team will lose the game, I'm sure we will see more like this to take place, better to assess and put your money in the right team and the right timing. 

[Japinat]

Just check the final update but didn't manage to watch the game, and I'm surprise knowing the outcome, Magnolia's winning streak is now being stopped by ROS, I guess there are good bettors who loves taking that big risk, they are now surely enjoying the amount of profits that they've gain, like what the post above you mentioned, it's strange that underdog wins agains the heavy favorite but that's how the game works.

One will win and the other team will lose the game, I'm sure we will see more like this to take place, better to assess and put your money in the right team and the right timing. 

ROS is s atreak stopper and they striked again. A close game but a big win for them, and since it's not played on unfamiliar venue, probably that was the reason why their shooting aren't that good. I heard from the commentators that it's played in Cagayan, so i guess we better be aware of the venue so we can spot this kind of opportunity.

[Yamifoud]

Two games upcoming.

3;00 PM sched.

Converge (+9.5) vs Meralco (+9.5)

6: 15 PM sched

TNT (+1.5) vs SMB (-1.5)

I think this is a good chance to bet on TN as it was reported that SMB will be bringing a new import today. With that, we can expect some chemistry problem, and I think RHJ would be able to take advantage on that.

[mirakal]

Two games upcoming.

3;00 PM sched.

Converge (+9.5) vs Meralco (+9.5)

It's automatic, I leaned on the Meralco on this one with the spread.
I was watching from unathorized stream but it keeps getting take down, so no choice but to just monitor on the score. maybe it's possible to watch it on local tv but since I'm quite busy with my online job now, I could not watch it.

6: 15 PM sched

TNT (+1.5) vs SMB (-1.5)

I think this is a good chance to bet on TN as it was reported that SMB will be bringing a new import today. With that, we can expect some chemistry problem, and I think RHJ would be able to take advantage on that.

In the last game, I also have TNT to win by 11+, actually had some parlay with Meralco with the same winning margin, so wish me luck for this risky bet.

[Yamifoud]

Two games upcoming.

3;00 PM sched.

Converge (+9.5) vs Meralco (+9.5)

It's automatic, I leaned on the Meralco on this one with the spread.
I was watching from unathorized stream but it keeps getting take down, so no choice but to just monitor on the score. maybe it's possible to watch it on local tv but since I'm quite busy with my online job now, I could not watch it.

Wow! That one was too easy, Meralco is up by 29 points now, so no way Converge would be able to cover the handicap. It's still not over yet, but 1 quarter and a half is not enough to comeback from this huge deficit, and knowing how defensive Meralco is, they wouldn't allow any comeback as they are very discipline when it comes to defense.

Congrats.

6: 15 PM sched

TNT (+1.5) vs SMB (-1.5)

I think this is a good chance to bet on TN as it was reported that SMB will be bringing a new import today. With that, we can expect some chemistry problem, and I think RHJ would be able to take advantage on that.

In the last game, I also have TNT to win by 11+, actually had some parlay with Meralco with the same winning margin, so wish me luck for this risky bet.

This one I would not follow, 11+ is too high, so I'll go on the safe side. Perhaps I'll just wait for the live and see how the SMB import will play, if he couldn't find the rhythm, then time to hit the TNT bet.

[bisdak40]

In the last game, I also have TNT to win by 11+, actually had some parlay with Meralco with the same winning margin, so wish me luck for this risky bet.

Risky indeed but with the chemistry issue as the Beermen will be parading a new import, i think there's a chance that TNT would win with that margin. As for me i am just betting simply for TNT to win here, risky bet too as SMB's confodence is high following their win the other night against Ginebra Kings.

TNT -1.5 @1.89 vs Beermen

Good luck to us.

edit: seems no chemistry issue for SMB tonight as their new import is not yet player, still Aska as SMB's import for now.

[Distinctin]

In the last game, I also have TNT to win by 11+, actually had some parlay with Meralco with the same winning margin, so wish me luck for this risky bet.

Risky indeed but with the chemistry issue as the Beermen will be parading a new import, i think there's a chance that TNT would win with that margin. As for me i am just betting simply for TNT to win here, risky bet too as SMB's confodence is high following their win the other night against Ginebra Kings.

TNT -1.5 @1.89 vs Beermen

Good luck to us.

edit: seems no chemistry issue for SMB tonight as their new import is not yet player, still Aska as SMB's import for now.

That's still a good bet though as obviously RHJ is way better than Aska. I like that -1.5, and it seems like this would be a close game. TNT is leading at the moment but just a single margin.

By the way, what happen to the Bolts vs Converge game, it was a very clear cover already but it looks like Bolts allow the Converge to come back in the 4th quarter. A once almost 30 points lead end up a 6 points win only, it was very disappointing to the bettors as for sure they were already expecting an easy win.

[mirakal]

In the last game, I also have TNT to win by 11+, actually had some parlay with Meralco with the same winning margin, so wish me luck for this risky bet.

Risky indeed but with the chemistry issue as the Beermen will be parading a new import, i think there's a chance that TNT would win with that margin. As for me i am just betting simply for TNT to win here, risky bet too as SMB's confodence is high following their win the other night against Ginebra Kings.

TNT -1.5 @1.89 vs Beermen

Good luck to us.

edit: seems no chemistry issue for SMB tonight as their new import is not yet player, still Aska as SMB's import for now.

That's still a good bet though as obviously RHJ is way better than Aska. I like that -1.5, and it seems like this would be a close game. TNT is leading at the moment but just a single margin.

It's gonna be fun since Romeo and Castro were playing on their respective teams. Now, the TNT would have a good point guard which will make the ball movement better, and it will be import vs import and as well know, it's RHJ would win most of the time.

I'm enjoying the game but i like to see TNT to take control of this game early.

By the way, what happen to the Bolts vs Converge game, it was a very clear cover already but it looks like Bolts allow the Converge to come back in the 4th quarter. A once almost 30 points lead end up a 6 points win only, it was very disappointing to the bettors as for sure they were already expecting an easy win.

Though it looks quetionable but I don't mind questioning it already since I've seen that many times. If this starts on a conversation about rigging a game, let's cut that now. Let's just say we bet on the wrong side, don't worry there's still the current game, we'll bounce back.


Damn, I noticed something, Trollana is already with the SMB! (hopefully he'll mess up the chemistry)

[Fredomago]

In the last game, I also have TNT to win by 11+, actually had some parlay with Meralco with the same winning margin, so wish me luck for this risky bet.

Risky indeed but with the chemistry issue as the Beermen will be parading a new import, i think there's a chance that TNT would win with that margin. As for me i am just betting simply for TNT to win here, risky bet too as SMB's confodence is high following their win the other night against Ginebra Kings.

TNT -1.5 @1.89 vs Beermen

Good luck to us.

edit: seems no chemistry issue for SMB tonight as their new import is not yet player, still Aska as SMB's import for now.

That's still a good bet though as obviously RHJ is way better than Aska. I like that -1.5, and it seems like this would be a close game. TNT is leading at the moment but just a single margin.

It's gonna be fun since Romeo and Castro were playing on their respective teams. Now, the TNT would have a good point guard which will make the ball movement better, and it will be import vs import and as well know, it's RHJ would win most of the time.

I'm enjoying the game but i like to see TNT to take control of this game early.

Seems that most of the fans expect that same outcome as TNT took control of the game till the 3rd period but failed to hold with their lead and let SMB to snatch this game against them, both teams have their run but SMB manage to overcome and turn the game on their favor, a shared efforts from everyone who manage to have their time playing both offense and defense SMB players provide their shares.

By the way, what happen to the Bolts vs Converge game, it was a very clear cover already but it looks like Bolts allow the Converge to come back in the 4th quarter. A once almost 30 points lead end up a 6 points win only, it was very disappointing to the bettors as for sure they were already expecting an easy win.

Though it looks quetionable but I don't mind questioning it already since I've seen that many times. If this starts on a conversation about rigging a game, let's cut that now. Let's just say we bet on the wrong side, don't worry there's still the current game, we'll bounce back.

As a bettor you just need to move forward, I know and understand what you mean Kabayan, I'll not going to add about it as PBA is PBA and knowing what are the possibilities, it's always huge when in terms of unexpected outcome.

[Natalim]

Guys, I wanna share with you the video I saw about the statement of Mac mac Cardona. I'm sure you all know that he was a PBA player before, and his statement is very negative, however it seem like it has reflect what is happening now.

According to him, the PBA players value now have dropped compared to the past, and that started when Kia and Blacktubig came in to the league. He said that there are players who are just paid 30k per month, and some are not even paid, just playing voluntarily waiting for an opportunity to get paid. So speaking of 30k, I think this is too low for a basketball pro playing in a popular league.

So, I like to hear some of your thoughts regarding this, you do think the PBA has been struggling already? And please share some possible reasons and its solutions base on your opinion.

[bisdak40]

~snip~
So, I like to hear some of your thoughts regarding this, you do think the PBA has been struggling already? And please share some possible reasons and its solutions base on your opinion.

Even before MacMac Cardona broke the news to their vlogs, i have already heard about this issue but none of the players confirmed about this so it just remains a rumor until Cardona broke it. It is just sad to note that PBA which is considered the oldest pro league in Asia has this kind of issue.

It is just fortunate to all the players now that wants to turn pro that they can choose on where to play. They have MPBL, Japan League and the Korean League as an option so those who have talents can maximize their earning and not just rely on the PBA.

The PBA on its part should also increase the minimum wage a player would receives so as to not lose talent to other leagues.

[Viscore]

~snip~
So, I like to hear some of your thoughts regarding this, you do think the PBA has been struggling already? And please share some possible reasons and its solutions base on your opinion.

Even before MacMac Cardona broke the news to their vlogs, i have already heard about this issue but none of the players confirmed about this so it just remains a rumor until Cardona broke it. It is just sad to note that PBA which is considered the oldest pro league in Asia has this kind of issue.

No active PBA player would comment on that against the league as they will be fine, or worst will not be renewed. Before, we criticize our PBA players who leave PBA for overseas but it turns out it was the right decision. I've seen some vlogs about these players who are making good paycheck with their overseas teams, recently I heard that both Ravena Brothers are making good money in Japan, we are talking of millions of pesos per month here, and that's not even the salary of the best player in the PBA which is JMF. So if players who have a talent would stay in PH, that's wasting their opportunity, actually there are lots of players that has given offers but they choose to stay loyal, of course that's good because they add more entertainment value on the league but in general, PBA isn't so entertaining as before anymore, that's the sad truth.

It is just fortunate to all the players now that wants to turn pro that they can choose on where to play. They have MPBL, Japan League and the Korean League as an option so those who have talents can maximize their earning and not just rely on the PBA.

The PBA on its part should also increase the minimum wage a player would receives so as to not lose talent to other leagues.

This problem has been long existing but they decided to be greedy and allow the major team owners to dictate the leave, so they deserve what they are getting now.

[xLays]

Guys, I wanna share with you the video I saw about the statement of Mac mac Cardona. I'm sure you all know that he was a PBA player before, and his statement is very negative, however it seem like it has reflect what is happening now.

According to him, the PBA players value now have dropped compared to the past, and that started when Kia and Blacktubig came in to the league. He said that there are players who are just paid 30k per month, and some are not even paid, just playing voluntarily waiting for an opportunity to get paid. So speaking of 30k, I think this is too low for a basketball pro playing in a popular league.

So, I like to hear some of your thoughts regarding this, you do think the PBA has been struggling already? And please share some possible reasons and its solutions base on your opinion.

For me if PBA players are earning as low as 30k and some are not getting paid at all it indicates  struggles 100%. Possible reasons could be poor management (like change the current commissioner) or a drop in the league's income. To fix this they might need better revenue sharing, more sponsorships and financial rules to ensure fair pay. Improving the league's structure and marketing can also help financially.

[Fredomago]

Guys, I wanna share with you the video I saw about the statement of Mac mac Cardona. I'm sure you all know that he was a PBA player before, and his statement is very negative, however it seem like it has reflect what is happening now.

According to him, the PBA players value now have dropped compared to the past, and that started when Kia and Blacktubig came in to the league. He said that there are players who are just paid 30k per month, and some are not even paid, just playing voluntarily waiting for an opportunity to get paid. So speaking of 30k, I think this is too low for a basketball pro playing in a popular league.

So, I like to hear some of your thoughts regarding this, you do think the PBA has been struggling already? And please share some possible reasons and its solutions base on your opinion.

For me if PBA players are earning as low as 30k and some are not getting paid at all it indicates  struggles 100%. Possible reasons could be poor management (like change the current commissioner) or a drop in the league's income. To fix this they might need better revenue sharing, more sponsorships and financial rules to ensure fair pay. Improving the league's structure and marketing can also help financially.

PBA as a business. I don't think they are struggling. I personally think that it's more about the franchise owners and the way they handle their players. PBA survives as they are being paid decently by these two giant companies who continue to enjoy the privilege. I'm not bitter, but that's reality, it's been a while when good teams have already surrendered the competition against MVP and SMC, unlike before where we really witnessed competition against teams who are playing for pride and not just for the money.

PBA is struggling in terms of viewership and fans leaving the league and now enjoying other alternative leagues where they find competitions, like MBPL. I like the way Cardona share that sad reality with players who wanted to share their talent, but the team who brought  them in is not capable of providing the aid that supposedly deserves for those talents.

We might see them playing in another league or if, by chance, an offer overseas, they will be happy to grab that opportunity not to waste their talents and use them for much better financial stability.

[chaser15]

For me if PBA players are earning as low as 30k and some are not getting paid at all it indicates  struggles 100%. Possible reasons could be poor management (like change the current commissioner) or a drop in the league's income. To fix this they might need better revenue sharing, more sponsorships and financial rules to ensure fair pay. Improving the league's structure and marketing can also help financially.

PBA is not struggling in terms of finances. Way back pandemic, they even stated that they could afford to play for 2 seasons with a really costly bubble conference. The PBA is backed up by giant companies and those companies own those popular and talented players in the league.

KIA and Blackwater can't pay their players the same as big giants in the league. Therefore, these players have to work for their improvement for them to be able to be scouted by giant teams. That's the reason why small teams in PBA won't grow as competitive because those talented players who got drafted by these small teams have no choice but to accept a better offer by giant teams. Loyalty is useless if these players will only paid small.

[Hypnosis00]

For me if PBA players are earning as low as 30k and some are not getting paid at all it indicates  struggles 100%. Possible reasons could be poor management (like change the current commissioner) or a drop in the league's income. To fix this they might need better revenue sharing, more sponsorships and financial rules to ensure fair pay. Improving the league's structure and marketing can also help financially.

PBA is not struggling in terms of finances. Way back pandemic, they even stated that they could afford to play for 2 seasons with a really costly bubble conference. The PBA is backed up by giant companies and those companies own those popular and talented players in the league.

They aren't struggling but in terms of profitability, the business is not anymore profitable because the audience they are expecting are not watching anymore. Specially now that Brownlee is injured, that's for sure would result to Ginebra missing the PBA Finals, unless the PBA will try to do some magic and make them reach there.

KIA and Blackwater can't pay their players the same as big giants in the league. Therefore, these players have to work for their improvement for them to be able to be scouted by giant teams. That's the reason why small teams in PBA won't grow as competitive because those talented players who got drafted by these small teams have no choice but to accept a better offer by giant teams. Loyalty is useless if these players will only paid small.

I think there should be a standard of salary, because if these two teams can't pay their players, they can only get a team that aren't competitive, which overall make the PBA not a balance league.

[bisdak40]

Back to the things on why we are here  .

Phoenix Fuel Masters ML @1.51 vs NorthPort Batang Pier ML @2.44
Magnolia ML @1.12 vs DYIP ML @5.50

^^ That's the two games tomorrow, of the two games, i think NorthPort has the bigger chance of upsetting the favorites so i'll go for them. Will bet on the second game if i won the first, my little strategy for now  .

[Russlenat]

Back to the things on why we are here  .

Phoenix Fuel Masters ML @1.51 vs NorthPort Batang Pier ML @2.44
Magnolia ML @1.12 vs DYIP ML @5.50

^^ That's the two games tomorrow, of the two games, i think NorthPort has the bigger chance of upsetting the favorites so i'll go for them

I agree with you, Bollick wasn't playing his usual game last time, so I'm sure they will make a huge adjustment this game.
IIRC, they were able to compete with the Meralco last game but only in the first half. It was a close contest after the first half but the big difference came in the 3rd quarter as Meralco outscored them big time, they only score 16 while Meralco had 33 points, that's a game changing that wasn't on their favor.

. Will bet on the second game if i won the first, my little strategy for now  .

Why not just do a parlay? That way you will not miss the opportunity to bet. 

[Maslate]

Why not just do a parlay? That way you will not miss the opportunity to bet. 

It's good to parlay if you will decide to play the next game if you win, but for me, I woudn't bet on the moneyline which is 1.12 only. Magnolia lose on their previous game, so against the weakest team in the PBA now, I think they'll win and cover the spread.

The current spread is -12.5, I think this only signifies that we are gonna see another blowout win by the Magnolia Hotspots. Therefore, personally I would take this early as I have a feeling that the line will move to as high as -14.5 nearing game time.

[Russlenat]

Why not just do a parlay? That way you will not miss the opportunity to bet. 

It's good to parlay if you will decide to play the next game if you win, but for me, I woudn't bet on the moneyline which is 1.12 only. Magnolia lose on their previous game, so against the weakest team in the PBA now, I think they'll win and cover the spread.

That's up to bisdak to decide, I'm just suggesting though in a form of question?

The current spread is -12.5, I think this only signifies that we are gonna see another blowout win by the Magnolia Hotspots. Therefore, personally I would take this early as I have a feeling that the line will move to as high as -14.5 nearing game time.

Magnolia are good in winning via blowout, and they are not happy with the outcome of their previous game as they lose to the ROS in a close game.

Prior to that, here are the results of the Magnolia Games.

Vs SMB, win by 4 points
Vs Bossing, win by 21 points
Vs NLEX, win by 27 points

Since DYIP is probably just on the same level with the current status of NLEX and Bossing, most likely Magnolia will win by 20 or more.