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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (25.2%)
Real Madrid - 76 (66.1%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (7%)
Total Voters: 115

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October 14, 2021, 04:22:10 AM
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It has been only a few games, I would not leave Barcelona out this quickly. They may not be the club they used to be, and they are missing two very important players from last year, but they are still Barcelona and I believe they could do something great.
Nah, I doubt that. I seriously doubt, the Barcelona we have now can possible be regarded as a dangerous team. They lost all the player quality that aided it to attain this hight and all they are left with now is just a name that has stood for so long. Barcelona is not what it's used to be and it isn't getting any better, instead, it gets worst by the minute and as it is, I don't expect them to take anything this season .
Real Madrid on the other hand, they've tried there best and still continues trying to keep up with Atletico Madrid being right there as a serious rival to fire there a×× up.
Maybe your doubt is right, but I am feeling some differently currently they have some issues, and it is nothing new because we have many problems in these clubs, and they are able to sort out very quickly right now same happening in Barcelona as their biggest concern is debit which is nearly $1.6 Billion USD and already few companies in talk if they settle this which is happening in near future then surely they will be able to bring some better and quality players and able to fight back in La Liga even most chance they will be in top 3 at the end of this season even right now it's very tough but still possible.

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October 14, 2021, 08:08:59 AM
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The kid vinicius is having a great season,how can you say benzema form will not last through the season after how he prove all doubters wrong last season, Madrid still have a great squad, Assesio is finding form at the right time,and the champions League group is easy for Madrid to go through despite their lose from Sheriff,I don't think sheriff we go through,inter Milan will win them back to back
Madrid still have a great squad? is this a joke? The team conceded 10 goals in 8 tours!
The midfield is too old. Modrić - 36, Vazquez - 30, Kroos - 31, Casimiro - 29, Isco - 29. How long will they be able to play at the top level? And this is the backbone of the team. How will the change of generations at the club take place if Madrid buys another "Hazard"?
Benzema - 33 is he iron to show this level for a whole season?
Champions League group is easy for Madrid it's tru, but there are problems even here.
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October 14, 2021, 09:02:56 AM
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Real Madrid do have to buy at least one more striker, and it is reported that Mbappe will most likely be managed by Madrid.
Buying 1 top striker is enough, Real Madrid still has some strikers. If they really can sign Mbappe or Haaland, it is enough to strengthen the attacking line. No need to waste money to buy more strikers, except Real Madrid can sell Bale and Eden Hazard in the next transfer window.

But Madrid still have to bring in 2 more defenders to strengthen their defense.
Yep, at least signing 2 top defenders. It is a must if Real Madrid still has a dream to win La Liga and UCL trophy. The current defenders aren't enough to play against big clubs in UCL. Even it is still weak to fight with Atletico Madrid or Barcelona. I am not sure Real Madrid can stay at the top of La Liga table with the current defenders.


There are rumors that Eden Hazard will return to Chelsea in the next transfer window, hopefully it will come true. In order to give Real Madrid extra
money to buy new players, because we all know Hazard is injured too many times and can't adapt to playing in Madrid. So selling Hazard was
a very good decision, if Madrid can bring in Mbappe or Haaland I believe Madrid's front line should be more productive. So Madrid will not rely too
much on Benzema in scoring goals. Then with the current condition of Madrid's defenders, I also doubt that Real Madrid can beat a big team
in the Champions League. And there is also the possibility that Madrid could lose the top spot in La Liga. Madrid's need to bring in defenders is
really urgent, because Nacho and Militao are very bad at defending Madrid's defense.

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October 14, 2021, 09:34:35 AM
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The kid vinicius is having a great season,how can you say benzema form will not last through the season after how he prove all doubters wrong last season, Madrid still have a great squad, Assesio is finding form at the right time,and the champions League group is easy for Madrid to go through despite their lose from Sheriff,I don't think sheriff we go through,inter Milan will win them back to back
Madrid still have a great squad? is this a joke? The team conceded 10 goals in 8 tours!
The midfield is too old. Modrić - 36, Vazquez - 30, Kroos - 31, Casimiro - 29, Isco - 29. How long will they be able to play at the top level? And this is the backbone of the team. How will the change of generations at the club take place if Madrid buys another "Hazard"?
Benzema - 33 is he iron to show this level for a whole season?
Champions League group is easy for Madrid it's tru, but there are problems even here.
It is indeed old and Madrid should have had a rejuvenation in the squad. About conceding 10 goals in 8 matches I don't think it's a bad thing either, because Madrid can still score 22 goals in 8 matches, and that's still fine for me and even though Madrid have old players but in fact Madrid are still very productive. For this season I think Madrid is still safe in La Liga at least still has a chance to win the title or at least become a tough competitor in the title race. In contrast to his chances in CL which obviously Madrid did not have good chances this season in CL, but his defeat to the Sheriff was not the end of everything.

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October 14, 2021, 09:56:11 AM
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My usual favorite team will be Real Madrid. Apart from my sympathy as a club, it is a well-established team that has left its mark on Europe with its successes. I truly admire this club. I wish him to be the champion in 2022. The results of the survey did not mislead me either.
looks like we will see a tight competition between real madrid and Atletico Madrid this season for the title of La Liga, I think so far only Atletico Madrid has a balanced squad in every line, so I think Atletico Madrid is a strong candidate to champions, while Real madrid they may look sharp enough to score but their frail defense is the biggest weakness at the moment, but if ancelloti can fix that soon maybe we will see the two teams continue to compete with narrow points difference until the end of the season.
It has been only a few games, I would not leave Barcelona out this quickly. They may not be the club they used to be, and they are missing two very important players from last year, but they are still Barcelona and I believe they could do something great. It will take some time for them to get used to each other and the new system, and there is a good chance they will not win it, but they are not completely out in my mind neither. I believe they could still rally back up and win bunch of games back to back and reach the top, it will not be easy but it is also not impossible neither, which is why I believe them doing it, slight chance but it is there.

Yes indeed we shouldn't leave barcelona so soon, but we can see now barcelona's condition is very far from perfect, losing messi has had a huge impact on their performance and from the few matches that barcelona has played, I see no improvement at all, and  I agree if you say barcelona still needs time to improve the squad, but what if it is too late later and when barcelona starts running while the other teams have left Barcelona very far behind?

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October 14, 2021, 10:20:06 AM
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The kid vinicius is having a great season,how can you say benzema form will not last through the season after how he prove all doubters wrong last season, Madrid still have a great squad, Assesio is finding form at the right time,and the champions League group is easy for Madrid to go through despite their lose from Sheriff,I don't think sheriff we go through,inter Milan will win them back to back
Madrid still have a great squad? is this a joke? The team conceded 10 goals in 8 tours!
The midfield is too old. Modrić - 36, Vazquez - 30, Kroos - 31, Casimiro - 29, Isco - 29. How long will they be able to play at the top level? And this is the backbone of the team. How will the change of generations at the club take place if Madrid buys another "Hazard"?
Benzema - 33 is he iron to show this level for a whole season?
Champions League group is easy for Madrid it's tru, but there are problems even here.
It is indeed old and Madrid should have had a rejuvenation in the squad. About conceding 10 goals in 8 matches I don't think it's a bad thing either, because Madrid can still score 22 goals in 8 matches, and that's still fine for me and even though Madrid have old players but in fact Madrid are still very productive. For this season I think Madrid is still safe in La Liga at least still has a chance to win the title or at least become a tough competitor in the title race. In contrast to his chances in CL which obviously Madrid did not have good chances this season in CL, but his defeat to the Sheriff was not the end of everything.

Real Madrid is obviously an "old" team but besides that, it's a fact that it's trying to cover its weaknesses in defence by attacking and try to produce opportunities. This strategy can be good and have good chances against weaker opponents but let's be realistic. If they don't upgrade their defense line and bring some new blood in their midfield (a defensive midfielder is a must for start), I can't see them reaching CL final four. They can't keep been based on Benzema for the whole season. They already through points against Sheriff, so what will happen against a stronger team?

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October 14, 2021, 01:31:09 PM
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There are rumors that Eden Hazard will return to Chelsea in the next transfer window, hopefully it will come true. In order to give Real Madrid extra money to buy new players, because we all know Hazard is injured too many times and can't adapt to playing in Madrid.
I don't think Hazard now is good for Chelsea. He gets issues not only in Real Madrid but also in Belgium. It means issues come from himself, not the club, not coaches. Injury, overweight, and don't have good fitness to play.

Chelsea won't bring him back and pay him salary as well as put their coach under pressure from fans to choose Hazard for matches. Fans in Chelsea do love Hazard and he will bring issues to Tuchel. Abramovich is smart enough to get rid of this ability to sign with Hazard again.

If they don't upgrade their defense line and bring some new blood in their midfield (a defensive midfielder is a must for start), I can't see them reaching CL final four.
They try with Alaba to replace Ramos but the transfer of Varane is bad. They should keep Varane in Bernabeu. Lack of Varane, their defense system is weaker because only Alaba can not carry their defense. He needs a good defender mate like Varane.

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They can't keep been based on Benzema for the whole season. They already through points against Sheriff, so what will happen against a stronger team?
Benzema can play and be a goal resource for them up to 2 more seasons. I agree that they have to find other strikers to prepare for Benzema leave or his less contribution because of ageing.

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October 14, 2021, 01:32:07 PM
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Real Madrid do have to buy at least one more striker, and it is reported that Mbappe will most likely be managed by Madrid.
Buying 1 top striker is enough, Real Madrid still has some strikers. If they really can sign Mbappe or Haaland, it is enough to strengthen the attacking line. No need to waste money to buy more strikers, except Real Madrid can sell Bale and Eden Hazard in the next transfer window.
But Madrid still have to bring in 2 more defenders to strengthen their defense.
Yep, at least signing 2 top defenders. It is a must if Real Madrid still has a dream to win La Liga and UCL trophy. The current defenders aren't enough to play against big clubs in UCL. Even it is still weak to fight with Atletico Madrid or Barcelona. I am not sure Real Madrid can stay at the top of La Liga table with the current defenders.
There are rumors that Eden Hazard will return to Chelsea in the next transfer window, hopefully it will come true. In order to give Real Madrid extra
money to buy new players, because we all know Hazard is injured too many times and can't adapt to playing in Madrid. So selling Hazard was
a very good decision, if Madrid can bring in Mbappe or Haaland I believe Madrid's front line should be more productive. So Madrid will not rely too
much on Benzema in scoring goals. Then with the current condition of Madrid's defenders, I also doubt that Real Madrid can beat a big team
in the Champions League. And there is also the possibility that Madrid could lose the top spot in La Liga. Madrid's need to bring in defenders is
really urgent, because Nacho and Militao are very bad at defending Madrid's defense.

Injury has been a huge drawback for Hazard's success in Madrid. If I'm not wrong, since his arrival he has missed 57 matches so far because of injury which is too much. He was bough with a huge sum and it seems like that was a waste of money. Now if Hazard returns to Chelsea, everyone will benefit from this transfer. Chelsea will have a quality player, Hazard can return to his home, Real can have the fund to buy players like Mbappe or Haaland. So I see this as a win for everyone.

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October 14, 2021, 01:34:17 PM
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So far, anceloti still has a good relationship with the real madrid squad and also madrid management, so it's unlikely that madrid will sack carlo anceloti before his contract expires.
You are wrong if you think that a weak defense is a trivial thing, because a strong defense is a very important factor for a club to stay on the winning path, you can see today if madrid has an imbalance in their game, madrid often scores goals, but also often conceded a lot of goals from opponents and of course it's very dangerous if later they are against a team that has a pretty dangerous attack line.

Firing Anceloti right now is too early. Madrid is still good so far. Madrid is also better than Barcelona. There is no reason to sack him in his current condition, maybe at the end of the season maybe they will evaluate it. He's a pretty good coach, he's been with Madrid before. Madrid's results so far cannot be a benchmark for Anceloti, there are still many matches to be played. Hopefully Anceloti will give Madrid at least 1 title then he will be safe as a coach.
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October 14, 2021, 01:48:42 PM
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The kid vinicius is having a great season,how can you say benzema form will not last through the season after how he prove all doubters wrong last season, Madrid still have a great squad, Assesio is finding form at the right time,and the champions League group is easy for Madrid to go through despite their lose from Sheriff,I don't think sheriff we go through,inter Milan will win them back to back
Madrid still have a great squad? is this a joke? The team conceded 10 goals in 8 tours!
The midfield is too old. Modrić - 36, Vazquez - 30, Kroos - 31, Casimiro - 29, Isco - 29. How long will they be able to play at the top level? And this is the backbone of the team. How will the change of generations at the club take place if Madrid buys another "Hazard"?
Benzema - 33 is he iron to show this level for a whole season?
Champions League group is easy for Madrid it's tru, but there are problems even here.
It is indeed old and Madrid should have had a rejuvenation in the squad. About conceding 10 goals in 8 matches I don't think it's a bad thing either, because Madrid can still score 22 goals in 8 matches, and that's still fine for me and even though Madrid have old players but in fact Madrid are still very productive. For this season I think Madrid is still safe in La Liga at least still has a chance to win the title or at least become a tough competitor in the title race. In contrast to his chances in CL which obviously Madrid did not have good chances this season in CL, but his defeat to the Sheriff was not the end of everything.

Real Madrid is obviously an "old" team but besides that, it's a fact that it's trying to cover its weaknesses in defence by attacking and try to produce opportunities. This strategy can be good and have good chances against weaker opponents but let's be realistic. If they don't upgrade their defense line and bring some new blood in their midfield (a defensive midfielder is a must for start), I can't see them reaching CL final four. They can't keep been based on Benzema for the whole season. They already through points against Sheriff, so what will happen against a stronger team?
Basically I'm talking more about his performance in La Liga and I said, Madrid did not have a chance in the CL and the defeat by the Sheriff, I said it was not the end of everything.
Incidents like this don't just happen to Madrid, because if we look back we will find where the favorite team was defeated by a dark horse team, things like this are common in the UCL. Therefore, I say Madrid's defeat by the Sheriff is not the end of everything, because after all over time I believe Madrid will return to their best form with young players who will certainly be presented in the squad. Again, I'm sure Madrid this season will still be fine in La Liga by finishing in the top four. I think that's good enough with their current squad, and means Madrid will still get a ticket to the UCL next season. But to compete in the UCL this season I think it's clear, Madrid's opportunity to go further seems to have lost hope, qualifying from the group is enough for him because I believe Madrid will not be able to go further in the CL this season.

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October 14, 2021, 01:51:38 PM
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Firing Anceloti right now is too early. Madrid is still good so far. Madrid is also better than Barcelona. There is no reason to sack him in his current condition, maybe at the end of the season maybe they will evaluate it. He's a pretty good coach, he's been with Madrid before. Madrid's results so far cannot be a benchmark for Anceloti, there are still many matches to be played.
Firing Anceloti and put the club into an uncertainty season. So far, Real Madrid have good results and you can not fire a coach just after two or three bad matches.

In the last season, Barcelona began too bad but they improved and managed to join the title competition in the second half of season. With temporary results and standing of Real Madrid in La Liga, I don't support the idea to fire Anceloti. Let's the coach does his job and come back with the firing solution next 10 matches.

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Hopefully Anceloti will give Madrid at least 1 title then he will be safe as a coach.
In Real Madrid and with Perez, you can be fired immediately after you win a La Liga. With them, the main priority is Champions League. Del Bosque, Capello were fired like that.

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October 14, 2021, 02:13:45 PM
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Madrid still have a great squad? is this a joke? The team conceded 10 goals in 8 tours!
The midfield is too old. Modrić - 36, Vazquez - 30, Kroos - 31, Casimiro - 29, Isco - 29. How long will they be able to play at the top level? And this is the backbone of the team. How will the change of generations at the club take place if Madrid buys another "Hazard"?
Benzema - 33 is he iron to show this level for a whole season?
Champions League group is easy for Madrid it's tru, but there are problems even here.

It looks like you are joking here. Everyone you listed (except Modric) are in their golden age - they already have a huge amount of experience, and physical conditions are either at their peak or close to it. Benzema is having his best season and if you have watched him in previous seasons you know that he is stable and there is no reason to believe that he will have special recessions (deeper than any other, even young players).
So yes, Real Madrid have a great squad now. The question of what will happen to it in 3-5 years has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation.

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October 14, 2021, 02:36:16 PM
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It looks like you are joking here. Everyone you listed (except Modric) are in their golden age - they already have a huge amount of experience, and physical conditions are either at their peak or close to it. Benzema is having his best season and if you have watched him in previous seasons you know that he is stable and there is no reason to believe that he will have special recessions (deeper than any other, even young players).
So yes, Real Madrid have a great squad now. The question of what will happen to it in 3-5 years has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation.

I disagree with you. Real Madrid's midfield does not keep up with the pace of play against teams that show fast football. Yes, they have great experience, but they are physically inferior. Involvement of Valverde and Camaving is the right step, but they cannot yet fully replace the main three midfielders. At the moment, Real Madrid has a rather weak team compared to their competitors.
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It is indeed old and Madrid should have had a rejuvenation in the squad. About conceding 10 goals in 8 matches I don't think it's a bad thing either, because Madrid can still score 22 goals in 8 matches, and that's still fine for me and even though Madrid have old players but in fact Madrid are still very productive. For this season I think Madrid is still safe in La Liga at least still has a chance to win the title or at least become a tough competitor in the title race. In contrast to his chances in CL which obviously Madrid did not have good chances this season in CL, but his defeat to the Sheriff was not the end of everything.
Real Madrid is obviously an "old" team but besides that, it's a fact that it's trying to cover its weaknesses in defence by attacking and try to produce opportunities. This strategy can be good and have good chances against weaker opponents but let's be realistic. If they don't upgrade their defense line and bring some new blood in their midfield (a defensive midfielder is a must for start), I can't see them reaching CL final four. They can't keep been based on Benzema for the whole season. They already through points against Sheriff, so what will happen against a stronger team?
Basically I'm talking more about his performance in La Liga and I said, Madrid did not have a chance in the CL and the defeat by the Sheriff, I said it was not the end of everything.
Incidents like this don't just happen to Madrid, because if we look back we will find where the favorite team was defeated by a dark horse team, things like this are common in the UCL. Therefore, I say Madrid's defeat by the Sheriff is not the end of everything, because after all over time I believe Madrid will return to their best form with young players who will certainly be presented in the squad. Again, I'm sure Madrid this season will still be fine in La Liga by finishing in the top four. I think that's good enough with their current squad, and means Madrid will still get a ticket to the UCL next season. But to compete in the UCL this season I think it's clear, Madrid's opportunity to go further seems to have lost hope, qualifying from the group is enough for him because I believe Madrid will not be able to go further in the CL this season.

Well, I heard the rumors that Antonio Rudiger's contract ends this season with Chelsea and he is a top target for Carlo Ancelotti. After the departure of Ramos and Varane, the lack of defense is visible on the pitch. Militao and Nacho have been making mistakes. So bringing in Rudiger will be a good solution to that. And most of the first team players are getting old. Even the legendary midfield trio of Kroos, Modric, and Casemiro is aging and so is Benzema. So they need to either buy more younger players or call of players from the academy.

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October 14, 2021, 02:48:27 PM
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It looks like you are joking here. Everyone you listed (except Modric) are in their golden age - they already have a huge amount of experience, and physical conditions are either at their peak or close to it. Benzema is having his best season and if you have watched him in previous seasons you know that he is stable and there is no reason to believe that he will have special recessions (deeper than any other, even young players).
So yes, Real Madrid have a great squad now. The question of what will happen to it in 3-5 years has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation.

I disagree with you. Real Madrid's midfield does not keep up with the pace of play against teams that show fast football. Yes, they have great experience, but they are physically inferior. Involvement of Valverde and Camaving is the right step, but they cannot yet fully replace the main three midfielders. At the moment, Real Madrid has a rather weak team compared to their competitors.
Yeah agree with you because Real Madrid midfielder is this season haven't great performance, just valverde can play as well possible in this season, I think Modric have over and better Real Madrid looking for new midfielder for next window transfer. Camavinga look have the same position with Kroos and not the same position like Modric because he not plays behind the forward but keep take defensive area, but Ancelotti maybe can give chance for Camavinga playing as second forward or midfielder attacking area.

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October 14, 2021, 03:01:39 PM
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It looks like you are joking here. Everyone you listed (except Modric) are in their golden age - they already have a huge amount of experience, and physical conditions are either at their peak or close to it. Benzema is having his best season and if you have watched him in previous seasons you know that he is stable and there is no reason to believe that he will have special recessions (deeper than any other, even young players).
So yes, Real Madrid have a great squad now. The question of what will happen to it in 3-5 years has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation.

I disagree with you. Real Madrid's midfield does not keep up with the pace of play against teams that show fast football. Yes, they have great experience, but they are physically inferior. Involvement of Valverde and Camaving is the right step, but they cannot yet fully replace the main three midfielders. At the moment, Real Madrid has a rather weak team compared to their competitors.

Can you be more specific? What specific fast teams have Real Madrid failed to keep up with this season? If there are some teams that supposedly look better than Real then why is there no one ahead of Real? And those who are on a par have much worse statistics? As for Valverde and Camaving, naturally, no one expects from them (now) that they will be able to completely replace the players from the base, this is a gradual process that stretches for years.

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October 14, 2021, 03:05:02 PM
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I think as long as Suarez keeps his energy, doesn't matter if he scores, he always creates space for others.
the challenge for almost all teams that have a lot of players to buy the national team is their performance when the match schedule is very tight.
Both teams now have to think about putting in their best-performing players. don't be too pushy, in the worst case, hopefully, no player gets injured while defending their national team.
I hope Suarez is doing well. He was very productive upfront.

It depends also on the player. The young ones, as in younger than 28 or 29 in my opinion love playing often and 3 times a week even is no problem for them. Some players do this actually in lower leagues with many more teams to play including clubs, and they don't have such a big squad. Then for them 3 games a week is totally normal.

Suarez will be good, as long as he maintains energy, he can pour his motivation on the field.

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October 14, 2021, 03:07:39 PM
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It has been only a few games, I would not leave Barcelona out this quickly. They may not be the club they used to be, and they are missing two very important players from last year, but they are still Barcelona and I believe they could do something great. It will take some time for them to get used to each other and the new system, and there is a good chance they will not win it, but they are not completely out in my mind neither. I believe they could still rally back up and win bunch of games back to back and reach the top, it will not be easy but it is also not impossible neither, which is why I believe them doing it, slight chance but it is there.
Yes indeed we shouldn't leave barcelona so soon, but we can see now barcelona's condition is very far from perfect, losing messi has had a huge impact on their performance and from the few matches that barcelona has played, I see no improvement at all, and  I agree if you say barcelona still needs time to improve the squad, but what if it is too late later and when barcelona starts running while the other teams have left Barcelona very far behind?

That is true. Barcelona does have the players to at least finish top 4 in the league. At the start of the season, many key players were out due to injury. Now that most of them, especially Aguero are back we can be optimistic of them doing good. What they need to do now is leave behind the dependency they had on Messi and try to play as a team and since they have some really quality players like Depay, Aguero, Pedri, and so many more, finishing top 4 should not be that tough of a challenge for them once they get the team chemistry right.

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October 14, 2021, 03:21:15 PM
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The young ones, as in younger than 28 or 29 in my opinion love playing often and 3 times a week even is no problem for them. Some players do this actually in lower leagues with many more teams to play including clubs, and they don't have such a big squad. Then for them 3 games a week is totally normal
This makes sense when you play either in a lower league or in a second-rate team, since you most likely have a multi-year contract and it makes sense to give your best only either on important games or before the transfer window, so for such players 3 games a week is normal.

It's another matter when it comes to prospects, when you dream of moving to another league or to a better team, then a three-time game week will be a big burden for you, since you will have to give all your best, (in this case, neither an ice bath nor a pool will help). Although recovery training for high-paid players is significantly different from the same training in low budget clubs (beer with friends and going to a nightclub ... that's the whole recovery training).

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October 14, 2021, 03:33:08 PM
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Barcelona does have the players to at least finish top 4 in the league. At the start of the season, many key players were out due to injury. Now that most of them, especially Aguero are back we can be optimistic of them doing good.
They can finish in top 4 of the league but it is a battle for them to achieve. It won't be an easy task for them and in a few seasons in the future, finish in top 4 will be a success for Barcelona.

They have great young players but only for attacking area. Their defense is weak and I can not see great young defenders from La Massia or players who were promoted to the first team.

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What they need to do now is leave behind the dependency they had on Messi and try to play as a team and since they have some really quality players like Depay, Aguero, Pedri, and so many more, finishing top 4 should not be that tough of a challenge for them once they get the team chemistry right.
Messi is the past and they now have to moving onward without regret and dependence on Messi.

Did you forget that they have Gavi, another young player was called to Spain team recently? Gavi, Pedri, Ansu, they will be players for the future of Barcelona.

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