⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024

[tokeweed]

^  Even if Liverpool is 9 points down, it’s still somewhat a long way from Feb to May.  There’s still a good amount of fixtures left.  And all it takes is a couple of bad matches for City and Liverpool is in there neck and neck til the end.  Maybe if it’s still a 9 point gap come mid April then yeah...  City prolly has it in the bag.

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[indah rezqi]

I will not discuss the problems experienced by Dele, but rather the character of the player's game.
Dele Alli's playing style is similar to Frank Lampard's. Dele Alli is more modern than Lampard. Of course Frank Lampard has been monitoring DA since he coached Chelsea even before he coached Chelsea. Therefore, I believe that Dele Alli will find his rhythm again under Lampard's tutelage.

It will be very synchronous for a club if a player is coached by experienced people like Lampard because at the time when Lampard was still active as a player in a club, he was also a star even though his fame may still be very little compared to other stars, but seeing this could happen to Lampard and DA, then that club would also be very profitable.

It doesn't always go according to plan. Everything needs a process to reach the best level, whether for the club or the player. There are also former great players who are now coaches but failed to bring the club to the championship track even though the coach recruited great players.
In terms of Lampard and Dele Alli, we'll see if they reach the best level?

[JollyGood]

RESULTS:

Newcastle United 3-1 Everton   

West Ham United 1-0 Watford   

Burnley 1-1 Manchester United

Manchester United failed to win at bottom placed Burnley. West Ham managed a 1-0 win against Watford. Newcastle United came back from 0-1 down to win 3-1 against Everton.

Everton edging closer to the relegation zone and are in big trouble unless new manager Lampard can get them on to winning ways. Newcastle are beginning to have hope of escaping relegation.

At the top, West Ham moved 4th when they leapfrog Manchester United.

[blue Snow]

Burnley 1-1 Manchester United[/b]

Manchester United failed to win at bottom placed Burnley.

I won't be surprised, MU is still the same as before, we don't need to expect too much when bet to MU even though they fight with a weak team. There is chatter because Ragnick doesn't put Ronaldo as a starter, on another side maybe because he used another scheme with Pogba where it doesn't fit with each other. And this situation will make Rangnick dizzier for what is for the best formation.

[Retro Harmony]

RESULTS:

Newcastle United 3-1 Everton   

West Ham United 1-0 Watford   

Burnley 1-1 Manchester United

Manchester United failed to win at bottom placed Burnley. West Ham managed a 1-0 win against Watford. Newcastle United came back from 0-1 down to win 3-1 against Everton.

Everton edging closer to the relegation zone and are in big trouble unless new manager Lampard can get them on to winning ways. Newcastle are beginning to have hope of escaping relegation.

At the top, West Ham moved 4th when they leapfrog Manchester United.

Everton had good signings with Frank Lampard.  I have to say I am surprised by this Newcastle defeat.  Newcastle United are fighting to get out of the last places and stay in the league.  These 3 points were very important to them.  On the other hand, the points that Manchester United lost were very important.  I'm sure everyone was shocked when they couldn't beat Burnley.  No one expected this togetherness.  A sad day for Manchester United fans.

[tarable]

Manchester United is difficult to win the Premier League title in the 2021-2022 season due to inconsistent team development. This has happened since the coach's seat was left by Ferguson.
At the beginning of the season, MU was predicted to be one of the clubs that would have the opportunity to win the trophy, but in fact, until the second round has taken place, the opportunity is getting farther away.

[Cnut237]

Everton had good signings with Frank Lampard.  I have to say I am surprised by this Newcastle defeat.  Newcastle United are fighting to get out of the last places and stay in the league.  These 3 points were very important to them.

Newcastle had a lot of signings, too. Also don't forget that Everton have lost Digne recently. They are right in the relegation fight now, and at this stage of the season direction of travel is the most important thing. A team just above the relegation places but in freefall in February usually means they go down.

On the other hand, the points that Manchester United lost were very important.  I'm sure everyone was shocked when they couldn't beat Burnley.  No one expected this togetherness.  A sad day for Manchester United fans.

I don't think the points that Man U dropped are really relevant to anything, they're not fighting for a spot at the top of the table. I wouldn't think people were shocked at this result really.

[JollyGood]

Why did Moyes select Zouma for the game against Watford? Moyes said he was an animal lover and did not accept what Zouma did yet still selected him.

Zouma was shown in videos hunting down one of his cats while it was trying to hide from him and when it was being held a small child Zouma PUNCHED it, then drop if to the floor KICKING it while another cat managed to escape. Yoan (the brother of Zouma) uploaded the video on his Snapchat before it went viral. The police are investigating.

Here is what Moyes said trying to justify selecting Zouma for the game: "I’m a big animal lover and it’s something that will have affected a lot of people. I was completely disappointed with what I saw and what I was told, but my job was to try and find a way to get a win for West Ham. Some people will be disappointed and I understand that.

“I’m someone who cares a lot about my dogs and my horses. The club are dealing with it as you well know. I’ve already spoken to him and we’ll move on as much as we can. We understand it’s not something everybody is pleased about. It’s a really poor situation.

“Was it the wrong call? My feeling was Kurt’s apologised. I understand lots of people won’t just accept that. But I had to do my job then, and that was to pick the best team I could.

“He’s obviously really disappointed and we’ve all felt it through the team and through the club. We are all of the same feeling it was completely out of order from Kurt and we didn’t expect that.

“I always felt I had to try and separate them and let the club do their side and I’ll do my side which is the football side. I think you are talking to one of the most disciplinarian managers there is.

“It’s something which we are all really disappointed with and the club are dealing with it. Kurt is in our first XI so my decision was to play him"

What do you think, was Moyes right? I think he was wrong, Zouma should have been dropped for the game.


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[Sebas.tian]

Manchester United is difficult to win the Premier League title in the 2021-2022 season due to inconsistent team development. This has happened since the coach's seat was left by Ferguson.
At the beginning of the season, MU was predicted to be one of the clubs that would have the opportunity to win the trophy, but in fact, until the second round has taken place, the opportunity is getting farther away.

Yes, it will be difficult for Manchester United to win this premier league title 2021-2022 because of the disunity among the players of the team are developing to each other in the field. All the Manchester United fans hope yesterday match will end 2:1 for the favour of MU to improve their point but the match ended 1:1 draw that made Manchester United point dropped down yesterday.
Manchester United can still come up to become the best club it was before, if only there will be love among the old players and new players in the team.

[Cnut237]

Why did Moyes select Zouma for the game against Watford? Moyes said he was an animal lover and did not accept what Zouma did yet still selected him.
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What do you think, was Moyes right? I think he was wrong, Zouma should have been dropped for the game.

I think he should have dropped him. Playing him sends the wrong message, it just emphasises that the players have the power and can do whatever they like without being punished.
I can understand the pressure to pick your best team, and if Zouma is one of your best players, you want to play him... but it sends the wrong message, and it could also be counterproductive in the long run.
Football clubs are tied inextricably to money, they are businesses, and the clubs are brands. If a movie star did this, then one of the companies that sponsors them might drop the sponsorship, because it would be bad for the brand. I'm surprised that the football club isn't doing the same (at least temporarily).

[tokeweed]

Everton edging closer to the relegation zone and are in big trouble unless new manager Lampard can get them on to winning ways. Newcastle are beginning to have hope of escaping relegation.

Compared to the current bottom three clubs, I think Everton has a decent chance to just stay up above the relegation zone imho.  Lampard will figure it out and they could have the better squad compared to Norwich, Watford and Burnley, tho a defense could be made for Watford.  But we’ll see.  That bottom three right now could be pretty much it at the end of the season.

And Man United getting a these kinds of results vs clubs like Burnley will cost them top 4 imo.  They cant’t afford losing points against these guys.

[Cnut237]

Compared to the current bottom three clubs, I think Everton has a decent chance to just stay up above the relegation zone imho.  Lampard will figure it out and they could have the better squad compared to Norwich, Watford and Burnley, tho a defense could be made for Watford.  But we’ll see.  That bottom three right now could be pretty much it at the end of the season.

I'm not so sure. Direction of travel is so important at this stage of the season. Everton have not been in the relegation battle as of yet, but they are plunging into it. Look at the last column in this table, showing form over last 5 games. 1 point out of 15 for Everton. Maybe on paper they have a better squad than the teams below them, but confidence plays a big part. The confidence of Everton players must be rock-bottom right now.

[tokeweed]

^  We’ll see...  For Everton, we really can’t judge where they’re going to be at by looking at their last 5 matches.  I mean a club could also win their next two matches and that changes a clubs’ form drastically.  So they prolly will be starting to get out of trouble by then esp if they win another one or at least a draw.  I’m hopeful and would hate seeing them go down.

Looks like Dean Smith is doing a good job with Norwich too.  The team total under .5 goals was hitting almost every week before they sorted their problems out.  Lol.  

[JollyGood]

Moyes has been disappointing. He justified selecting Zouma by saying the club was dealing with the issue with the player but said his job was to pick the best team to help West Ham win therefore he chose Zouma to start. That is a ludicrous explanation from an experienced manager who should have known better.

Why did Moyes select Zouma for the game against Watford? Moyes said he was an animal lover and did not accept what Zouma did yet still selected him.
[...]
What do you think, was Moyes right? I think he was wrong, Zouma should have been dropped for the game.

I think he should have dropped him. Playing him sends the wrong message, it just emphasises that the players have the power and can do whatever they like without being punished.
I can understand the pressure to pick your best team, and if Zouma is one of your best players, you want to play him... but it sends the wrong message, and it could also be counterproductive in the long run.
Football clubs are tied inextricably to money, they are businesses, and the clubs are brands. If a movie star did this, then one of the companies that sponsors them might drop the sponsorship, because it would be bad for the brand. I'm surprised that the football club isn't doing the same (at least temporarily).

[Lordhermes]

We are now in the second phase of the season,and so many surprises will come because the smaller teams trying to avoid relegation will try everything possible not to be at the bottom of the table.
This is when smaller teams used to beat and flog beat teams in the top four mercilessly,taking every match as serious as a final.Therefore the big teams have to be very watchful of them to avoid being thrashed and disgraced by these smaller teams.

[JollyGood]

The results from the games yesterday:

Manchester City 2-0 Brentford

Norwich City 1-1   Crystal Palace

Tottenham Hotspur 2-3 Southampton

Aston Villa 3-3 Leeds United


Manchester City march towards another Premier League title with 60 points after 24 games played. Liverpool are fading away in 2nd place 12 points behind after playing 22 games. Even though they have two games in hand and can close the gap to 6 points if they win those games - I would say Manchester City will be crowned champions again.

Tottenham suffered a major setback as they were beaten at home by Southampton. From being 2-1 ahead at 70 minutes they ended up losing 2-3 at full time. This will hurt their ambitions to finish in the top 4 at the end of the season.

[poldanmig]

what do you think about the match Manchester United vs Southampton??
how is Manchester united still retaining Maguire, Maguire's game was very bad, I don't think it's worthy of him to play In the English Highest Caste league, I think with the arrival of a new coach he will be eliminated but still playing, What do you think about Maguire??

Manchester just got a negative result from Burnley in the previous match, so that in the match against Southampton later, Manchester is required to win in order to keep their chances of being in the top 4, but even though they have a better head to head than Southampton, Manchester will certainly be difficult to beating southampton in the match later, because in the last two games southampton in the league they managed make tottenham and manchester city to lose points, my prediction is maybe both teams will draw or maybe one team will win by a thin score.
Like you, I also think that after OGS departure, Maguire will most likely be substituted, but instead he still has a place in the Manchester squad right now, and even somehow he can become a captain even though he has been making more mistakes that ended in Manchester defeat.

[Igebotz]

Manchester City march towards another Premier League title with 60 points after 24 games played. Liverpool are fading away in 2nd place 12 points behind after playing 22 games. Even though they have two games in hand and can close the gap to 6 points if they win those games - I would say Manchester City will be crowned champions again.

The same thing happens every season, with Manchester City coming from behind to win the league. Now all we care about is the TOP 4 battle. When Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester United were all ahead of Manchester City, I thought it was going to be a crazy race. How Manchester City leapfrogged the three teams is still a mystery. The league is becoming less competitive and more intense.

Manchester
Tottenham suffered a major setback as they were beaten at home by Southampton. From being 2-1 ahead at 70 minutes they ended up losing 2-3 at full time.

This game ruined my bet slip from last night. I was convinced Tottenham would have to take all three points. I'm not sure what happened in the last 30 minutes of the game; was it a tactical blunder on Conte's part? Or did the Soton improve much in the second half?

[tokeweed]

^  As I said before, there’s still a lot of fooball left to play.  There’s still a chance City gets into somewhat of a lull which would def give Liverpool the opportunity to catch up.  It’s still only Feb and Liverpool has two games less played than City.  Def they have a chance.  I’d start thinking it’s over around April or mid April.  Klopp can’t just give up now.  I mean imagine if he had the same attitude.  That would suck.

[dataispower]

^  As I said before, there’s still a lot of fooball left to play.  There’s still a chance City gets into somewhat of a lull which would def give Liverpool the opportunity to catch up.  It’s still only Feb and Liverpool has two games less played than City.  Def they have a chance.  I’d start thinking it’s over around April or mid April.  Klopp can’t just give up now.  I mean imagine if he had the same attitude.  That would suck.

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