Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[freedomgo]

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Yep, he put Manny's name on the map with his careful match making and of course him being in the sports for so long, he can pull that off and then make Manny look great, and both of them making money at the same time. We all call it, milking the cow, millions earn by both of them throughout their partnership.

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

[lionheart78]

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Aside from keeping the boxer on top of the rank, Bob Arum's also gives a boxer an opportunity to shine.  He is a good promoter and knows how to match his boxer . I agree that Bob Arum is the reason why Manny Pacquiao become one of the greatest boxers in history.

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

Well, that is business in boxing.  After one is good enough to establish his own he will do it, while a promoter will look for someone who can be his cash cow.

[Baofeng]

We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and  Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

[Fredomago]

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Yep, he put Manny's name on the map with his careful match making and of course him being in the sports for so long, he can pull that off and then make Manny look great, and both of them making money at the same time. We all call it, milking the cow, millions earn by both of them throughout their partnership.

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

At the end of the day, Arum still getting huge money out from his fighters. Just like you said, Manny in the later part of his career decided to part-ways with Arum and start his own promotion, that action didn't harm Arum in anyhow, though for a while maybe he loss millions of percentage with those fights that Pacquiao have before his retirement but being a good handler with an established name in this business, Arum simply creates another hotshot to be his milking cow.

And the cycle continues for Arum and his business. This sport is more about how to make money. That's why each fighter really aiming to give everything so promoters will notice them and give them the chance to change their life.

[Yaunfitda]

We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and  Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

Yes, surprised to see how Prograis became a favorite and with that kind of odds. I think Zepeda has pull an upset here and I like his odd at 4.x.

Zepeda is very durable as well so I expect this fight to be a war as this is for the belt. Although Prograis is also good, but it's going to be a close fight here.

Maybe the fight can go either direction in the judges scorecard, but I do agree, if someone who also look for a live underdog, it will be Zepeda in this fight.

[Japinat]

That's right! The boxers are left hanging because they cannot do what they wanted and so is their legacy left uncemented because of some fights were to impossible to happen. Promoters should've just agree that whoever has more belt or whoever has more to offer, they should be the ones who will control the fight and demand what will happen as they're on the A-side, but that's just easier said than done because these promoters aren't willing to listen.

There's more than this actually because we don't know what kinds of negotiations they're having behind closed doors. I think it's not all because of money but something bigger than that if the negotiations between two huge boxers are not successful. First of all, promoters don't really care about their boxer's glory or records when they reach popularity where their fight can earn millions of dollars because, at this point, promoters are taking care of everything especially when they gonna fight a worthy opponent that is capable of defeating them, if it's not a multi-million deal, it won't gonna happen and they won't take the risk at all.

If there's really more than that then Terence Crawford shouldn't have said those words publicly and saved himself from the issues that he's also ducking. I think he was just being honest and just emotional because he was played with months while carrying those hopes that their fight is nearing to completion because he already cut ties with Bob Arum.

Also, I disagree with that part where you've said that promoters would stop caring if they are already popular and will be worth millions per fight. That's untrue, promoters will still take care and try to maintain the unscathed records of their cows even when they reached the peak because their worth will start to decrease if they're starting to lose. And so you know, it's not a win-win situation for them.

[stadus]

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

True, boxing is a business, and so these boxers need the middle man like Bob Arum to negotiate. If there are businessman that understand that side, then this boxers might be taken advantage of and fights not being broadcast. So there could be some that hate Arum and others, but they are the one who build boxing to where it is today and boxers earning millions in return.

You can say it like that way, and it also payed for boxers like ODL or Floyd to get out of their contract and established their own boxing promotions, Golden Boy Promotions and TMT for Floyd.

So there are positive things like Bob and Don King being a boxing manager, making millions for themselves, and then taking advantage of many boxers already. I guess for boxers, if they really don't know how to take care of their money because of lack of education maybe, the fault might be on themselves as this is a busines, and they have to deal with their manager as businessman taking cuts on their every fight.

That includes Manny Pacquiao who founded and owned the MP Promotions, Pacquiao severed his ties with Bob Arum somewhere in 2018 and his own venture is now promoting him afterwards, IIRC. Truly Bob Arum and Don King are the two biggest names if we're talking about promoters, they are already on the game for quite some time now even before PBC and DAZN was known or other huge promotional companies now.

It's just that Oscar Dela Hoya, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are bright enough to think about the future and how much money they could get if they will start their own promotional company from scratch and just using their fame as a capital to attract investors and boxers. Right now, the promotional companies of the 3 mentioned legends are already successful.

[inthelongrun]

We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and  Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

Yes, surprised to see how Prograis became a favorite and with that kind of odds. I think Zepeda has pull an upset here and I like his odd at 4.x.

Zepeda is very durable as well so I expect this fight to be a war as this is for the belt. Although Prograis is also good, but it's going to be a close fight here.

Maybe the fight can go either direction in the judges scorecard, but I do agree, if someone who also look for a live underdog, it will be Zepeda in this fight.

This was supposed to be a Zepeda-Ramirez fight but the latter preferred to focus on the WBO belt who's probably becoming vacant soon unless Jack Catterall upsets Josh Taylor. Former undisputed champion Josh Taylor is not just giving up the WBC belt but all his remaining belts as well except for the WBO since he wants to rematch Jack Catterall in a championship fight before moving up in the welterweight division.

For fight fans that want to see a non-boring fight, this is for them, actually, I am also not missing this fight. Both are KO artists and capable of hurting each other. I want Zepeda to win but Prograis seems to be the bigger guy and is a natural 140 fighter while also the more mobile fighter.

[chaser15]

It's just that Oscar Dela Hoya, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are bright enough to think about the future and how much money they could get if they will start their own promotional company from scratch and just using their fame as a capital to attract investors and boxers. Right now, the promotional companies of the 3 mentioned legends are already successful.

Actually, that was a good move by those legends you mentioned.

A promotional company requires lots of $$$$$$$ and boxers that will start a business like that should be really earnings huge money during their active days and that's the case of Oscar Dela Hoya, Mayweather Jr, and Manny Pacquiao.

That business wouldn't be possible to start by those boxers who don't have huge contracts regardless if they are champions or not.

[YuginKadoya]

Right now there are no well-known boxing events, before the Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora that will be on Dec 3, It will be an event today

Path to Glory

Friday 11.18.2022
Promotion: Thompson Boxing Promotions
Location: Ontario, California, United States

MAIN EVENT

Louie Lopez VS Adrian Gutierrez

CO-MAIN EVENT

Manuel Flores VS Armando Torres

MAIN CARD

Elias Diaz VS David Thomas
Ioannis Manouildis VS Erick Garcia Benitez
Nelson Oliva VS Mike Plazola
Juan Sanchez VS Miguel Angel Barajas

All info is on TAPOLOGY


We also have a pure Mexican Boxing

Bandido vs. Avila

Friday 11.18.2022
Promotion: Silva Boxing Promotions
Location: Ecatepec, Mexico

MAIN EVENT

Francisco Vargas VS Guillermo Avila

MAIN CARD

Jacky Calvo VS Angela Nolazco
Luis Jesus Vidales VS Gustavo Garibay
Marco Antonio Ponce VS Bryan Antonio Zuniga
Gabriel Torres Trejo VS Edwin Barrientos
Christian Islas Roldan VS Miguel Juarez

All info was on TAPOLOGY

[btc_angela]

We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and  Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

Yes, surprised to see how Prograis became a favorite and with that kind of odds. I think Zepeda has pull an upset here and I like his odd at 4.x.

Zepeda is very durable as well so I expect this fight to be a war as this is for the belt. Although Prograis is also good, but it's going to be a close fight here.

Maybe the fight can go either direction in the judges scorecard, but I do agree, if someone who also look for a live underdog, it will be Zepeda in this fight.

This was supposed to be a Zepeda-Ramirez fight but the latter preferred to focus on the WBO belt who's probably becoming vacant soon unless Jack Catterall upsets Josh Taylor. Former undisputed champion Josh Taylor is not just giving up the WBC belt but all his remaining belts as well except for the WBO since he wants to rematch Jack Catterall in a championship fight before moving up in the welterweight division.

For fight fans that want to see a non-boring fight, this is for them, actually, I am also not missing this fight. Both are KO artists and capable of hurting each other. I want Zepeda to win but Prograis seems to be the bigger guy and is a natural 140 fighter while also the more mobile fighter.

I do agree, this is a must watch fight for boxing fans, both are heavy hitters so very interesting as who is going to win although I'm also liking Zepeda here as the underdog.

Not sure though, Josh Taylor will have a rematch against Jack though? If this is true then another good fight as well, and if I'm not mistaken, there is a controversy on the first fight and others says that Jack has upset Taylor and that's why I'm thinking that there could be a rematch between the two as Josh wanted to proved that he won the fight. So let's see, 140 lbs is also a very attractive division as there are a lot of good fighters and to top 5 are all capable of beating each other and become a champion. That's why Josh unifying all the belts are that compelling.

[Baofeng]

We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and  Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

Yes, surprised to see how Prograis became a favorite and with that kind of odds. I think Zepeda has pull an upset here and I like his odd at 4.x.

Zepeda is very durable as well so I expect this fight to be a war as this is for the belt. Although Prograis is also good, but it's going to be a close fight here.

Maybe the fight can go either direction in the judges scorecard, but I do agree, if someone who also look for a live underdog, it will be Zepeda in this fight.

This was supposed to be a Zepeda-Ramirez fight but the latter preferred to focus on the WBO belt who's probably becoming vacant soon unless Jack Catterall upsets Josh Taylor. Former undisputed champion Josh Taylor is not just giving up the WBC belt but all his remaining belts as well except for the WBO since he wants to rematch Jack Catterall in a championship fight before moving up in the welterweight division.

For fight fans that want to see a non-boring fight, this is for them, actually, I am also not missing this fight. Both are KO artists and capable of hurting each other. I want Zepeda to win but Prograis seems to be the bigger guy and is a natural 140 fighter while also the more mobile fighter.

I do agree, this is a must watch fight for boxing fans, both are heavy hitters so very interesting as who is going to win although I'm also liking Zepeda here as the underdog.

Not sure though, Josh Taylor will have a rematch against Jack though? If this is true then another good fight as well, and if I'm not mistaken, there is a controversy on the first fight and others says that Jack has upset Taylor and that's why I'm thinking that there could be a rematch between the two as Josh wanted to proved that he won the fight. So let's see, 140 lbs is also a very attractive division as there are a lot of good fighters and to top 5 are all capable of beating each other and become a champion. That's why Josh unifying all the belts are that compelling.

He vacated his 3 belts except the WBO, and so this fight will be for the WBC belt.The reported rematch between Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall is slated for February. But we will have to wait for the official announcement.

Yes, there is a debate and so much controversy that they have to do it again. But in any case the  Prograis vs Zepeda is a good appetizer for us in this division.

And we also have Teo Lopez going up to 140 lbs so his name should be in the discussion as well for next year.

[Fredomago]

It's just that Oscar Dela Hoya, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are bright enough to think about the future and how much money they could get if they will start their own promotional company from scratch and just using their fame as a capital to attract investors and boxers. Right now, the promotional companies of the 3 mentioned legends are already successful.

Actually, that was a good move by those legends you mentioned.

A promotional company requires lots of $$$$$$$ and boxers that will start a business like that should be really earnings huge money during their active days and that's the case of Oscar Dela Hoya, Mayweather Jr, and Manny Pacquiao.

That business wouldn't be possible to start by those boxers who don't have huge contracts regardless if they are champions or not.

Good thing with those 3 legends they have the money and the fame it won't be hard for them to negotiate with other promoters and set a fight, and also, in terms of building a fighter career it will be easy for them since they can hype the fighter name and continue to link their name to gain more interest from the fans.

Like you said, those three legends already earning decent money from each fighter that they are handling.

and the good thing, they are continuing to build new uprising star to create impact to this sport and start making its way to be a future title contender/holder.

[Dave1]

It's just that Oscar Dela Hoya, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are bright enough to think about the future and how much money they could get if they will start their own promotional company from scratch and just using their fame as a capital to attract investors and boxers. Right now, the promotional companies of the 3 mentioned legends are already successful.

Actually, that was a good move by those legends you mentioned.

A promotional company requires lots of $$$$$$$ and boxers that will start a business like that should be really earnings huge money during their active days and that's the case of Oscar Dela Hoya, Mayweather Jr, and Manny Pacquiao.

That business wouldn't be possible to start by those boxers who don't have huge contracts regardless if they are champions or not.

I think sooner or later that will be the move of those boxers, we also have Cotto having his own promotions. They are at least still in contact with boxing and definitely since they are former champions, they could have connections and so they can used it to further their company and their fighters. So it's a win win for them, but the most successful of them all as boxing promoters is Oscar's Golden Boy Promotions, it has undergone a lot of metamorphosis but still up to this day, GBP is still one of the best promotions that we have right now.

[freedomgo]

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Yep, he put Manny's name on the map with his careful match making and of course him being in the sports for so long, he can pull that off and then make Manny look great, and both of them making money at the same time. We all call it, milking the cow, millions earn by both of them throughout their partnership.

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

That shows how good on the business Bob Arum is, he won't be in the game for too long if he cannot make a boxer great by his matchmaking skills. He also established some connections because of that, that is why he is powerful enough to call a fight and make it happen by pulling some few strings.

Manny Pacquiao is undoubtedly good but I strongly think that he won't be in the position like where he is now if he landed in a different promotional company because only the likes of Bob Arum and Don King can make that happen back in the day. Now, we got a lot of promotional companies that are so competitive.

[Sanitough]

Not just the taste or having the chance to share the same stage with the legendary Manny Pacquiao but they are also viewing Pacquiao as a good ground to make a good money and possibly the biggest payout in their whole career. Can't blame them to try and call Pacquiao to have a bout with them because of those benefits they could have if they're given the chance.

Well, just like Mayweather Manny Pacquiao had literal Money on his name, and just like Mayweather fighting him could surely get you profit, because there will be a lot of sponsors that will surely support those fights and make a deal of money for them, in actuality this is a great opportunity for a retired fighter to get some instant large profit and for the MMA fighters that only got a handful of money will surely take almost millions, well this is the truth about combat sports it can surely provide some and it could even take lives if some ignored the signs,

That is true and they will make money while making a less risky fight even if they will fight a different sport fighter. Now, both of them are now running on the limelight again after they retired but Mayweather has been on the game of exhibitions for some years now while Pacquiao will have his 1st fight after he got some rests on the politics side. Let's see if Pacquiao's fight is more interesting than Mayweather's because that is one of the basis that their future fights will still be marketable.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, let's say that their rematch will indeed happen in 168 lbs. and let's say that Bivol have also agreed to it. The question is, is Canelo Alvarez ready to risk his belts and the undisputed title? I don't think Canelo have the guts to risk his status now because he already know Bivol's capabilities. Remember that supermiddle and lightheavy have only 7 lbs. or 3 mere kilograms of difference. Bivol will surely take that challenge for sure if that's the case, no doubt.

Yeah, Canelo already know he's very struggling when he was fight against Bivol, he wouldn't take risk to lose all of his belts. It will depends on Bivol side, does he's really want to achieve more belts, fame or money? if he want to achieve more belts and fame, he should ask Canelo do a rematch at super middleweight division. If he want to get huge pay check, he will agree do rematch at light heavyweight division.

Personally I'd more interested to see the rematch at super middleweight division since Bivol already risk his belt before, next should be Canelo turn.

I think that Bivol will not give Canelo a rematch, since it is obvious that Bivol wants more titles, and for now he wants only titles, because it will give him more fame, and having titles + fame will give him the best fights and that will become much more money for him, that's what he really wants, because it really doesn't cost him anything to give Canelo a rematch and the way things are I think that if something like that happens, I'd go for Bivol because I think he has a very good technique and he really has a determination that few boxers are seen, he has like that champion wood, but in the same way you have to wait to see what is going to be decided.

We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and  Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

Yes, surprised to see how Prograis became a favorite and with that kind of odds. I think Zepeda has pull an upset here and I like his odd at 4.x.

Zepeda is very durable as well so I expect this fight to be a war as this is for the belt. Although Prograis is also good, but it's going to be a close fight here.

Maybe the fight can go either direction in the judges scorecard, but I do agree, if someone who also look for a live underdog, it will be Zepeda in this fight.

This was supposed to be a Zepeda-Ramirez fight but the latter preferred to focus on the WBO belt who's probably becoming vacant soon unless Jack Catterall upsets Josh Taylor. Former undisputed champion Josh Taylor is not just giving up the WBC belt but all his remaining belts as well except for the WBO since he wants to rematch Jack Catterall in a championship fight before moving up in the welterweight division.

For fight fans that want to see a non-boring fight, this is for them, actually, I am also not missing this fight. Both are KO artists and capable of hurting each other. I want Zepeda to win but Prograis seems to be the bigger guy and is a natural 140 fighter while also the more mobile fighter.

I do agree, this is a must watch fight for boxing fans, both are heavy hitters so very interesting as who is going to win although I'm also liking Zepeda here as the underdog.

Not sure though, Josh Taylor will have a rematch against Jack though? If this is true then another good fight as well, and if I'm not mistaken, there is a controversy on the first fight and others says that Jack has upset Taylor and that's why I'm thinking that there could be a rematch between the two as Josh wanted to proved that he won the fight. So let's see, 140 lbs is also a very attractive division as there are a lot of good fighters and to top 5 are all capable of beating each other and become a champion. That's why Josh unifying all the belts are that compelling.

He vacated his 3 belts except the WBO, and so this fight will be for the WBC belt.The reported rematch between Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall is slated for February. But we will have to wait for the official announcement.

Yes, there is a debate and so much controversy that they have to do it again. But in any case the  Prograis vs Zepeda is a good appetizer for us in this division.

And we also have Teo Lopez going up to 140 lbs so his name should be in the discussion as well for next year.

Well, whenever there is a rematch, it seems to me that it is something that motivates a lot, it gives emotion and a fight like this must be seen, I have searched many articles, among which this one seems very illustrative and is very well argued, I like how they did it:

Josh Taylor launches attack on Jack Catterall and his critics as anticipation builds for "personal" rematch in Glasgow

“After the fight it was all 'Jack this and Jack that' but I'm still the champion and I've heard nothing from anyone, and the stuff they have written about me, they've really shown their true colours. It's a grudge match. It's become personal with the things that have been said since the fight like Jack moaning about corruption and all this s**t. There's a bit of needle there so I'm going to get in the ring and knock him out this time."

Source: https://www.lep.co.uk/sport/other-sport/josh-taylor-launches-attack-on-jack-catterall-and-his-critics-as-anticipation-builds-for-personal-rematch-in-glasgow-3901313

I really liked the writing of the article, you see some rivalry there and I think that this fight promises, I had not seen so much interest in it, but really since it was focused on other fights, sometimes some that turn out to be interesting are missed.

[Baofeng]

^^ Boxers will always find "personal" reasons to beat the other party, that's why they are motivated. The Taylor vs Catterall became personal to Taylor because he almost lost the fight, when everyone thought that he was invincible at 140 lbs. Of course he has the belt and the unified champion, but everything went wrong on that fight. And there are boxing pundits who see Catterall winning the fight.

And that makes Josh really wanted to get a rematch and shut Jack Catterall mouth for good. And shows everyone that he is still on top of this division although he has given up his 3 belts because it's hard to defend all against mandatory by different bodies.

[Fredomago]

^^ Boxers will always find "personal" reasons to beat the other party, that's why they are motivated. The Taylor vs Catterall became personal to Taylor because he almost lost the fight, when everyone thought that he was invincible at 140 lbs. Of course he has the belt and the unified champion, but everything went wrong on that fight. And there are boxing pundits who see Catterall winning the fight.

And that makes Josh really wanted to get a rematch and shut Jack Catterall mouth for good. And shows everyone that he is still on top of this division although he has given up his 3 belts because it's hard to defend all against mandatory by different bodies.

Yeah right, they are using this as motivation and a good reason to win and beat their opponent's, more motivation, more reason to establish their names in this sport. With the help of scouts and sparring partners, executing their strategy will keep them on top. I think boxers/fighters will find those many reasons to beat their opponents.

Part of their mindsets that once they step inside the ring, the reason why they wanted to win will generate their plan patterns to execute and win the fight.