Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[LUCKMCFLY]

I very much agree on your statement mate, perhaps Ryan Garcia could be more lethal and dangerous in the upper division rather than forcing his own weight to fit in 135. But before all of that, he should try and improve his fighting style first because even if he can survive a few fights against the lower ranks, he will still find himself in the very same position where he can't really touch the champions because he lacks something. It's time for him to move-on and learn the lesson that was taught to him, and equip it to be a better boxer in his new journey.

If he didn't lose that last fight he wouldn't think to get to the upper weight class because he was feeling comfortable there with his speed but when he fought Davis, he realized that his past opponents were just a joke. now that he realized he needed to get up there, he should also train as much as he can to get back his honor and gain some momentum to bounce back again. He is such a charismatic boxer unlike anybody else and he can sell his fights easily, he just needs to give some more, especially in his defensive strategies.

I'd say even if he win that one, that will be his last fight at 135 because his weight was already a problem to him in that division. In-fact, he already had two fights prior his fight versus Gervonta Davis and I believe that the sole reason why Ryan Garcia came back in lightweight was to settle their rivalry with each other that has been going on for years now.

But again, if not because of his defeat versus Tank, he will not be learning his lesson that his movement and defense is not that good enough in-front of the experts in the division. Actually, he already had the same scenario where Luke Campbell exposed him but he let his head to grow bigger because despite that fact, he won the fight.

I agree with that point he thinks that he can easily take what Davis will throw him, he try to fight that solid hit in his ribs but Tanks solid punch is far different from those fighters that Garcia's face before, he didn't manage to absorb and survive and we see the outcome of the fight a big lesson to learn as he needed to grow and adjust to improve his fighting skills.

That just shows that Tank Davis is on a different league compared to Ryan Garcia because Tank as a champion doesn't lose his discipline and he even keeps on reaching milestones to improve his performance inside the ring while Ryan here is not making any improvement because he's just too reliant on the power that his left hand contains. And look what happened to him, even Tank Davis's body punch is powerful enough to make Ryan Garcia kneel and prevented him to recover again. How much more if he had received another clean punch in the temple more than what he received in the 2nd round, he might be sleeping on the canvass if that happened.

That is why it is said that talent must be nurtured through training, it is useless to have a powerful left, if you do not worry about perfecting everything, your technique, your strategy and trust yourself, I think that what matters here is trust, we In this sport we know very well that you must train all the time, so as not to lose shape, agility or strength. In boxing, as in any sport, you must always work hard as long as your body can resist it and without injuring yourself. I think that this It is the premise of a high performance athlete, usually these things give good results.

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[jakelyson]

Correct.
I was looking for the big main event this Saturday and I found none and here it is in the Main Card which I missed. I will definitely support our fellow Filipino boxer here. I want to see if another champion will be added to the list before the Donaire fight. He may be an underdog but so do Marlon Tapales when he fought Murodjon Akhmadaliev and won in a split decision.
@2.04 for Astrolabi and @1.76 for Moloney. It's not that much of a difference and I think he has a good chance to get the WBO bantamweight title.

Yup! Even though Vincent Astrolabio is an underdog in this fight he certainly has some experience to keep it in his favor and together and get the fight, Vincent Astrolabio also can surprise everyone with a big win or a big comeback most Filipino boxers doing right now this fight will be on Sunday morning or Saturday night for us, in the Philippines I think, which is pretty much a great time to set up a good bet but I would think of it 1st because I will be betting for the UFC aswell because UFC fights maybe are the same day as the Alimkhanuly vs. Butler fight, and will check my budget 1st,

I'm in with Canelo vs Benavidez right, Canelo should go with David and proved everything wrong that he is past his prime. Benadivez Sr, says that Canelo looks terrible against John Ryder and people in Mexico expecting him to score a knockout and that Mexicans are disappointed with the Canelo performance. So for sure Canelo and his camp read this comment from Sr., so let's see if they will choose a young fighter or rematch Bivol.

Canelo Alvarez might have had a terrible performance but at least he won the fight yeah there is much negative feedback regarding the fight that Canelo should have scored a knockout instead of a decision win at least that is what most of his fans wants as a result of the fight but surely Canelo Alvarez can not give it, this is a sure picked fight but Canelo Alvarez is having a hard time with Ryder,

A boxer's life is always on the line.

4 days ago, a young boxer Kenneth Egano from General Santos City, Philippines won a fight against Jason Facularin in Imus, Cavite Philippines. Upon winning, he didn't even have the energy to be on the referee's side to raise his hands or even heard the announcer that he won the fight because he was already in the corner collapsed, and being tended by his team.
He was rushed to the hospital and was in a coma for 4 days before he died today. 22 years old. So young and has so much future ahead of him.

Manny Pacquiao covered all the expenses for his recovery but there was nothing they could do to save him. Another sad day for Philippine boxing.
This is a reminder that we cannot just underestimate what the boxers are risking when they step on the ring.

It was a sad thing to happen it was another tragic death in the world of boxing surely that headshot can surely cause a concussion if the head was punched several times maybe on the back of the head of Kenneth Egano it was really a great fight to watch but the boxer isn't really aware that he already has damage in his brain, you can see that the fight was finished and Kenneth Egano has a happy face withstanding the fight but It was his last smile, then he collapsed all of a sudden watching the fight I have noticed that Jason Facularin has some shots that were near on the back of Egano's head and I really don't know if this is the cause of Egano's Collapse, but this is the real danger of boxing, a sports that we thing is more safer than MMA,

[Fredomago]

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

Tapales isn't in the same division like both Moloney and Astrolabio, Tapales is super bantamweight division while both of Moloney and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division. The only one big fight for Tapales is the winner of either Inoue or Fulton, I think there's will be no politic in this fight because Inoue is really like a new challenge and Fulton seems not to be have a strict organizer.

Yes, that's right! Tapales will have his big fight after winning the belt, if either Fulton or Inoue whoever will win from their upcoming fight will proceed and will try to unify the belts then it will be a big money fight for Tapales, he's the one who are in a good position right now he just needed to keep enhancing his skills as knowing the capability of both Fulton and Inoue both are really competitive and strong fighters who can face anyone.

[Kasabus]

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

Tapales isn't in the same division like both Moloney and Astrolabio, Tapales is super bantamweight division while both of Moloney and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division. The only one big fight for Tapales is the winner of either Inoue or Fulton, I think there's will be no politic in this fight because Inoue is really like a new challenge and Fulton seems not to be have a strict organizer.

Yes, that's right! Tapales will have his big fight after winning the belt, if either Fulton or Inoue whoever will win from their upcoming fight will proceed and will try to unify the belts then it will be a big money fight for Tapales, he's the one who are in a good position right now he just needed to keep enhancing his skills as knowing the capability of both Fulton and Inoue both are really competitive and strong fighters who can face anyone.

Not sure that sure though if Inoue will walk along that path because knowing Bob Arum, he wanted to take some time first to make Inoue more accustomed to the weight class and make some more money fight before unifying the belts with Tapales. Maybe 1-2 fights before that will happen and for Fulton, he already said that he will leave the division regardless of the outcome, so we can't really hold him to unify the belts. But we never know, he might change his mind again.

[Maslate]

So far, there's nothing that changed about Canelo's response on who's next ever since his loss to Bivol. Bivol has already accepted the challenge of fighting for the undisputed belts at 168 but Canelo is stubborn and wants the rematch at 175 for Bivol's WBA belt. Bivol will put him to school once again but I am hoping for the champion to be more aggressive and try hurting Canelo because these corrupt judges will always try to change the outcome when the superstar is losing.

No doubt, I mean look at his recent performance against John Ryder, that is surely not the Canelo we've known and facing Bivol right away will just add another embarrassment to his career and a loss as well. If he will pursue Bivol then it's clear that it's a redemption fight for Canelo but it's funny because he is not willing to risk his belts at 168 and still choose 175 where they first fought.

I guess there's only one thing to find that out and it's to fight Dmitry Bivol for Canelo's much wanted rematch, but just like what you said mate, Canelo's chances fell down after the surgery and we saw how he perform recently. So it's not that he can make some difference this time but it will be a money fight for him as everywhere Canelo will go, money will follow.

As of now, Canelo and his camp are hand picking his next opponent that he will likely fight this coming September. As per article that I've read earlier, they have 5 options and two of that is Benavidez and Bivol.

[Fredomago]

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

Tapales isn't in the same division like both Moloney and Astrolabio, Tapales is super bantamweight division while both of Moloney and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division. The only one big fight for Tapales is the winner of either Inoue or Fulton, I think there's will be no politic in this fight because Inoue is really like a new challenge and Fulton seems not to be have a strict organizer.

Yes, that's right! Tapales will have his big fight after winning the belt, if either Fulton or Inoue whoever will win from their upcoming fight will proceed and will try to unify the belts then it will be a big money fight for Tapales, he's the one who are in a good position right now he just needed to keep enhancing his skills as knowing the capability of both Fulton and Inoue both are really competitive and strong fighters who can face anyone.

Not sure that sure though if Inoue will walk along that path because knowing Bob Arum, he wanted to take some time first to make Inoue more accustomed to the weight class and make some more money fight before unifying the belts with Tapales. Maybe 1-2 fights before that will happen and for Fulton, he already said that he will leave the division regardless of the outcome, so we can't really hold him to unify the belts. But we never know, he might change his mind again.

I like that idea, maybe Arum will take more money  before he push Inoue to unify the belts just in case he will win, he maybe hype Inoue against Casimero, a long awaited fight that did not materialize way back at 118 lbs, maybe it's a good timing for Casimero to make his way to take that chance fighting against the monster.

Though both fighters need to win their upcoming fights before it can happen.

[btc_angela]

Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.

Tapales isn't in the same division like both Moloney and Astrolabio, Tapales is super bantamweight division while both of Moloney and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division. The only one big fight for Tapales is the winner of either Inoue or Fulton, I think there's will be no politic in this fight because Inoue is really like a new challenge and Fulton seems not to be have a strict organizer.

Yes, that's right! Tapales will have his big fight after winning the belt, if either Fulton or Inoue whoever will win from their upcoming fight will proceed and will try to unify the belts then it will be a big money fight for Tapales, he's the one who are in a good position right now he just needed to keep enhancing his skills as knowing the capability of both Fulton and Inoue both are really competitive and strong fighters who can face anyone.

Not sure that sure though if Inoue will walk along that path because knowing Bob Arum, he wanted to take some time first to make Inoue more accustomed to the weight class and make some more money fight before unifying the belts with Tapales. Maybe 1-2 fights before that will happen and for Fulton, he already said that he will leave the division regardless of the outcome, so we can't really hold him to unify the belts. But we never know, he might change his mind again.

I like that idea, maybe Arum will take more money  before he push Inoue to unify the belts just in case he will win, he maybe hype Inoue against Casimero, a long awaited fight that did not materialize way back at 118 lbs, maybe it's a good timing for Casimero to make his way to take that chance fighting against the monster.

Though both fighters need to win their upcoming fights before it can happen.

And that's what Arum is known for, milk his cash cow first, in this case it's Inoue. So possible, maybe after he won this fight against Fulton, he will not go up in weight very fast, a couple fights here in the super bantamweight is not that bad after all.

He can unify it again just like what he has done before as bantamweight, make money and then go up at 126 lbs. Specially if the champion at 126 lbs will be under Top Rank, it's going to be an easy set up for Arum and win win situation again as money will go down to him and his promotional company. So that is not bad idea for Inoue.

[blockman]

I am waiting for Casimero and Nghitumbwa's fight. While waiting, I happen to see a live stream and there's the underdog fighting.
Another Filipino Boxer, Weljon Mindoro versus a Japanese fighter Takeshi Inoue. The round is currently at 10/12 and about to close the match soon. I guess this will end with a unanimous decision. Both are tough fighters and this is a good appetizer before watching the main event.

[danherbias07]

So the weigh-in is done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBDk_JnFFy0

Both Jason Moloney and Vincent Astrolabio passed their weigh-in, we will just have to wait for their fight tomorrow. Also, the champion Janibek Alimkhanuly and the challenger Steven Butler made weight.
Middleweight + Bantamweight championships. This will be an entertaining treat for all the boxing fans.

Here are the odds for their fights.
Jason Moloney @1.67| 4.10 by KO| 2.50 by decision
Vincent Astrolabio @2.17| 4.10 by KO| 4.10 by decision

Janibek Alimkhanuly @1.05| 1.18 by KO| 6.00 by decision
Steven Butler @9.40| 16.00 by KO| 28.00 by decision.

Obviously, they are looking forward to Janibek ending it with KO against Butler. It ain't much profitable so I will pass on that one. Astrolabio on the other hand might have a chance against Moloney so I will take that.

[rhomelmabini]

I am waiting for Casimero and Nghitumbwa's fight. While waiting, I happen to see a live stream and there's the underdog fighting.

I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.

Janibek Alimkhanuly @1.05| 1.18 by KO| 6.00 by decision
Steven Butler @9.40| 16.00 by KO| 28.00 by decision.

Whete was this odd for Janibek vs. Butler? I'm not that good at boxing but will try to try huge odds for underdogs especially if it's about boxing. I'll just bet with small amount tbh.

[Jawhead999]

I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.

The fight is over, Casimero win via unanimous decision. Casimero never fought Inoue, it's not a rematch if this fight will happen, it's the first fight for him against Inoue. With this win, maybe Inoue would consider to fight with Casimero regardless Inour will or lose against Fulton.

However there's another match will happen in the next few hours, it's Moloney vs Astrolabio.

[blockman]

I am waiting for Casimero and Nghitumbwa's fight. While waiting, I happen to see a live stream and there's the underdog fighting.

I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.

Thanks for that mate, I thought that it is on this day but I happen to be that advance as I got confused with the timezone. We have to support our man this time.
It's not just all about boasting but giving him the support that he needs even if we bet or not and we'll just want to watch his match. I really thought that it was today.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I am waiting for Casimero and Nghitumbwa's fight. While waiting, I happen to see a live stream and there's the underdog fighting.

I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.

Thanks for that mate, I thought that it is on this day but I happen to be that advance as I got confused with the timezone. We have to support our man this time.
It's not just all about boasting but giving him the support that he needs even if we bet or not and we'll just want to watch his match. I really thought that it was today.

I also thought that this fight is going to happen in 24 hours? Perhaps the time is local to PH that's why it is going to be Saturday on their time zone? So from from I read, Casimero dropped Nghitumbwa in round 6. But he was able to survived but eventually lost on the judges scorecard.

Not the win that we wanted to see for Casimero as we are rooting for a knockout so that he can make a noise again. But as what we have said, a win is a win at least it's not like the same result as Akaho wherein it was very disappointing fight. At least Nghitumbwa makes his promised that he will fight till the end and bring his game against Casimero. So congrats for John Riel and off he go for another belt in this division.

[rhomelmabini]

I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.

The fight is over, Casimero win via unanimous decision. Casimero never fought Inoue, it's not a rematch if this fight will happen, it's the first fight for him against Inoue. With this win, maybe Inoue would consider to fight with Casimero regardless Inour will or lose against Fulton.

What? We always thought huge fight like this would happen on our timezone every Sunday 8am onwards tbh. I just saw the news and thanks for pointing it out and that cousin of mine well receive my slight beating saying to me it will be a rematch, I should have researched for that. Well, I hope he considers it now I saw an article just today that he has been interested but later on withdraw and maybe it's time now.

[Jating]

I read that Oscar is criticizing Ryan Garcia now, or at least giving him a advise as per what I read here:

“Ryan Garcia has to rearrange his team, his inner circle,” De La Hoya told FightHubTV, “and then take it from there. And take boxing seriously and train harder and train smarter and have an actual training camp up in the mountains where you’re focused, where you have tunnel vision, that’s my opinion.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-says-ryan-garcia-needs-shake-up-his-team-implores-him-take-boxing-seriously-train-harder--174546

So maybe what we heard from Reynoso and Canelo Alvarez is true, that Ryan Garcia is not taking training seriously or not giving it 100% every fight. And now that he face a fighter that is elite, he was exposed, got knock out, first time in his career.

And maybe who knows, after this contract with Oscar will expire, we might see him moving and looking for a new manager.

[Kemarit]

We still don't know what's going on inside Ryan's training in this fight. As far as we know, and from what we have seen in their coverage leading up to the fight. He seems to be doing good in training. But what Oscar must be saying is that he should surround himself of people that really take care of him, not just there because he is famous and making a lot of money. And we have seen the first sign though from Ryan, firing his trainer in Goosen after just 3 fights and most likely he is the one taking the blame for Ryan's first lost and perhaps someone whisper to Ryan that he could let go of Goosen. Anyhow, let's see who is really his new coach as there are reports that he already find one but there are also speculation that he might go back to Reynoso.

[AmoreJaz]

I read that Oscar is criticizing Ryan Garcia now, or at least giving him a advise as per what I read here:

“Ryan Garcia has to rearrange his team, his inner circle,” De La Hoya told FightHubTV, “and then take it from there. And take boxing seriously and train harder and train smarter and have an actual training camp up in the mountains where you’re focused, where you have tunnel vision, that’s my opinion.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-says-ryan-garcia-needs-shake-up-his-team-implores-him-take-boxing-seriously-train-harder--174546

So maybe what we heard from Reynoso and Canelo Alvarez is true, that Ryan Garcia is not taking training seriously or not giving it 100% every fight. And now that he face a fighter that is elite, he was exposed, got knock out, first time in his career.

And maybe who knows, after this contract with Oscar will expire, we might see him moving and looking for a new manager.

if garcia ha no focus here, we will see it in his upcoming fight with tank davis. the odds are highly favouring davis here and maybe these bookies are seeing that davis can easily defeat garcia. the people surrounding him is also important because they will guide him what real preparations should be. davis is no easy opponent, so he should take note of that. otherwise, he can easily lose this match without a fight.

[Jawhead999]

if garcia ha no focus here, we will see it in his upcoming fight with tank davis. the odds are highly favouring davis here and maybe these bookies are seeing that davis can easily defeat garcia. the people surrounding him is also important because they will guide him what real preparations should be. davis is no easy opponent, so he should take note of that. otherwise, he can easily lose this match without a fight.

It's confirmed if Garcia will have a rematch against Tank in the upcoming fight? that's crazy because I don't expect anything change from Garcia in the next fight. New or old coach, will not make Garcia become a different boxer and he don't have a tough chin, he can't go brawl against Tank.

Tank will become huge favorite in the next match since the first match is a solid win for him.

[danherbias07]

I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.

The fight is over, Casimero win via unanimous decision. Casimero never fought Inoue, it's not a rematch if this fight will happen, it's the first fight for him against Inoue. With this win, maybe Inoue would consider to fight with Casimero regardless Inour will or lose against Fulton.

What? We always thought huge fight like this would happen on our timezone every Sunday 8am onwards tbh. I just saw the news and thanks for pointing it out and that cousin of mine well receive my slight beating saying to me it will be a rematch, I should have researched for that. Well, I hope he considers it now I saw an article just today that he has been interested but later on withdraw and maybe it's time now.

Yeah, I guess we Filipinos are victims of the timezone differential. The event was done in the Philippines, maybe that's why we are confused. This means if it's said 7 PM then it's also 7 PM to us.  We are used to watching Sunday morning boxing because it's mostly done in the US with 12 hours difference.
I just finished watching the replay and thankfully I found one website that offers it, but I won't share it because I know it's illegal to distribute it. Sorry.

In round three Casimero really tried to put Nghitumbwa down but failed. In the next round, it was all Nghitumbwa who is dictating the fight. Round 6 is where it gets energized, Casimero landed a big left hook that sent Nghitumbwa down but he got up again and fought it through.
Sorry for the spoilers. 

[Road21Bitcoin]

Has anyone watched the fight between Rolly Romero vs Ismael Barroso for the WBA Super Lightweight title? One of the most rigged and controversial bouts I've ever watched Rolando Romero's win was saved by the referee Tony Weeks. The referee is obviously helping him win the fight, if you watch the reply, Romero shoves Barroso to the canvas and rules it a knockdown. Even the commentators are not pleased with the stoppage in the ninth round.