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[paladin281978]

wherein accused cryptonit?

[popshot]

Can I ask everyone who gave cryptonit Trust points - out of genuine need to do so - to post a comment of support in defence of his case.

Cryptonit asked (seemingly) trusted member of BTT to add those of you who voted for him to his personal trusted list. This is the way the broken trust system works on this forum. Without doing so your feedback would stay invisible. Unfortunately, cryptonit was accused of forcing you to give him positive feedback and was punished for doing so.

I personally think the decision that was made is wrong and should be reversed.

If anyone feels the same you can make a point in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884262.msg9753461#msg9753461

[cryptonit]

really this trust system is broken
people who make business with u and reward u positive trust are invisible
people who did never deal with u can make visible negative feedback

i am close to the point leave BTT and move all comunication on our own forum

check the guy who gave me negative feedback
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

if someone abuse the trust system than he
damaging a honorable community member he never exchanges a written or spoken word
he know nothing about me

BUT please none give him a negative rating please
thats not the way we deal with that

we seek for understanding that this time he was wrong

[paladin281978]

really this trust system is broken
people who make business with u and reward u positive trust are invisible
people who did never deal with u can make visible negative feedback

i am close to the point leave BTT and move all comunication on our own forum

totally agree
it's not fair!

[stoody]

wtf happen cryptonit??? ur trust score just went all crazy??? who the hell gave u negative trust??? how can this be fixed?? it needs to be fixed asap

[cryptonit]

BTT broken trust system is a serious issue for me
it give power to people who dont deserve it
the power to ruin the visible trust rating in a few seconds

and even 1000 positive ratings from u could not fix it because
ur opinion is worthless by the way the BTT trust system works

only votes of people attached  to a default trust list (not updated since ages so its old members of BTT and unclear how they earned that power) counting for visible rating at default settings

if we move our comunication full to http://bit.diamonds/community/index.php
is the only way such people have no longer power about our reputation

[stoody]

BTT broken trust system is a serious issue for me
it give power to people who dont deserve it
the power to ruin the visible trust rating in a few seconds

and even 1000 positive ratings from u could not fix it because
ur opinion is worthless by the way the BTT trust system works

only votes of people attached  to a default trust list (not updated since ages so its old members of BTT and unclear how they earned that power) counting for visible rating at default settings

if we move our comunication full to http://bit.diamonds/community/index.php
is the only way such people have no longer power about our reputation

yep im moving to OUR OWN forum cryptonit... this is shit how u have been screwed over ill check in every now and then im sorry for u mate... this sucks

[Mister1k]

ím official pissed of by BTT broken trust system
it give power to people who dont deserve it
the power to ruin the visible trust rating in a few seconds

and even 1000 positive ratings from u could not fix it because
ur opinion is worthless by the way the BTT trust system works

only votes for people attached  to a default trust list counting for visible rating at default settings

if we move our comunication full to http://bit.diamonds/community/index.php
is the only way such people have no longer power about our reputation

Move it. This is ridiculous. Its obvious this guy has a super hero complex.
Its pretty sad when one has to use their trust rating and somehow empower themselves to
dishonour and basically slander our CVO Cryptonit.  A total dishonor towards the entire Diamond community.
There is no payout or advantage to stay here only a disadvantage. Close it and move it.
Just my opnion. Your our leader. Its your call. I'll support your decision Cryptonit.

[incognitoworker]

ím official pissed of by BTT broken trust system
it give power to people who dont deserve it
the power to ruin the visible trust rating in a few seconds

and even 1000 positive ratings from u could not fix it because
ur opinion is worthless by the way the BTT trust system works

only votes for people attached  to a default trust list counting for visible rating at default settings

if we move our comunication full to http://bit.diamonds/community/index.php
is the only way such people have no longer power about our reputation

Move it. This is ridiculous. Its obvious this guy has a super hero complex.
Its pretty sad when one has to use their trust rating and somehow empower themselves to
dishonour and basically slander our CVO Cryptonit.  A total dishonor towards the entire Diamond community.
There is no payout or advantage to stay here only a disadvantage. Close it and move it.
Just my opnion. Your our leader. Its your call. I'll support your decision Cryptonit.

Seems to be several comunitys that moves away from this forum...
Our own forum will be better, only use btt to link to new forum? 
Happy stakng!

[digi123]

I haven't been keeping up with the thread lately but after reading the last few posts I just like to say that cryptonit has always been a trustworthy and helpful person with regard to the involvement I have had with diamond coin.

[popshot]

I haven't been keeping up with the thread lately but after reading the last few posts I just like to say that cryptonit has always been a trustworthy and helpful person with regard to the involvement I have had with diamond coin.

We know that, but please say it there to make some difference

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884262.msg9753461#msg9753461

[cryptonit]

I haven't been keeping up with the thread lately but after reading the last few posts I just like to say that cryptonit has always been a trustworthy and helpful person with regard to the involvement I have had with diamond coin.

We know that, but please say it there to make some difference

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884262.msg9753461#msg9753461

unrelated to the decision if we move to our own forum or not
i would be happy about everyone who post in that thread if he think i deserve being rated as trustworthy

its a matter of lost face

im not asian but i live with a asian wife and i know the mentality

and i feel just like that

like i lost my face because of a miss understand

there where never bad intentions involved
i did just follow a hint from community that we should try get a visible positive trust rating

[shveicar]

I do not understand any of ratings and trust in question? Cloud Mining is works. The payments are made. Is not this a demonstration of honesty and efficiency. Who wanted the already acquired shares and became an investor. The rest can always join.
Of course there are technical problems to be solved and it is necessary to concentrate their forces on this problems, but  not to engage in hamster games, one who is steeper  and who voted for whom.

P.s In the end, you need to have long to develop their own forum http://bit.diamonds/community/ . This is be a new stage in the development of the coin.

[chilo]

really this trust system is broken
people who make business with u and reward u positive trust are invisible
people who did never deal with u can make visible negative feedback

i am close to the point leave BTT and move all comunication on our own forum

check the guy who gave me negative feedback
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

if someone abuse the trust system than he
damaging a honorable community member he never exchanges a written or spoken word
he know nothing about me

BUT please none give him a negative rating please
thats not the way we deal with that

we seek for understanding that this time he was wrong

I have PMed this 'VOD' character who appears to have placed the negative rating on cryptonit, and related how that came to be. I hope he can delete the negative rating as this appears to be a very stiff application of the rules if it is an application of the rules. Not long before the so called offence we were trying to work out how it works! Ludicrous!

[chilo]

Please do not leave this forum! I believe this issue can be resolved, and a positive outcome for all.
Anyone reading this who is not involved in this conflagration, please add your support to having this rectified.
Regards
chilo

[hallared]

Cryptonit, even if I trust you and understand your intentions, I must say you expressed yourself rather clumsy in your PM.

In my opinion the Trust system itself seems untrustworthy. How can one negative rating from one Default Trustlist member, who has never had any business with Cryptonit whatsoever, override all other people’s positive ratings who actually have had business with Cryptonit? That is totally preposterous. Furthermore the negative rating is based on a poorly worded PM and is blown out of proportion.
Is it possible to get a detailed motivation from Vod regarding the actions taken?

I hope this matter will be possible to resolve and put behind. I don’t think DMD should have to leave Bitcointalk because of this.

[cryptonit]

Cryptonit, even if I trust you and understand your intentions, I must say you expressed yourself rather clumsy in your PM.

In my opinion the Trust system itself seems untrustworthy. How can one negative rating from one Default Trustlist member, who has never had any business with Cryptonit whatsoever, override all other people’s positive ratings who actually have had business with Cryptonit? That is totally preposterous. Furthermore the negative rating is based on a poorly worded PM and is blown out of proportion.
Is it possible to get a detailed motivation from Vod regarding the actions taken?

I hope this matter will be possible to resolve and put behind. I don’t think DMD should have to leave Bitcointalk because of this.

i agree hallared i did write maybe not in best possible way
but u know im busy man and the forum trust was a low priority issue

for me no matter how we solve this issue its good to make it easier for me to make a decision

the decision is to seek a BTT community manager someone of u
someone who can talk better english than me

i want to focus on my real job

and that is together with alex and daniel design our future and make it happen

i spend way to much here doing a community manager and a single forum marketing/promotion job where i am not the ideal man

please apply per PM toward popshot for BTT community manager slot
additional we seek marketing and promotion interested people

i will step a bit back

i did damage DMD the second time
once long ago when people said i damage the community by my bad written english
and now a second time

i know i did way more good for DMD than damage

but still thats no reason to not try avoid future damage

take the chance to involve urself deeper with DMD

apply to help popshot managing BTT

for future promotions run by me make sure u follow twitter or linkedin or our own forum

https://twitter.com/CryptonitDMD
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/helmut-siedl/92/460/586
http://bit.diamonds/community/

[hallared]

Cryptonit, even if I trust you and understand your intentions, I must say you expressed yourself rather clumsy in your PM.

In my opinion the Trust system itself seems untrustworthy. How can one negative rating from one Default Trustlist member, who has never had any business with Cryptonit whatsoever, override all other people’s positive ratings who actually have had business with Cryptonit? That is totally preposterous. Furthermore the negative rating is based on a poorly worded PM and is blown out of proportion.
Is it possible to get a detailed motivation from Vod regarding the actions taken?

I hope this matter will be possible to resolve and put behind. I don’t think DMD should have to leave Bitcointalk because of this.

i agree hallared i did write maybe not in best possible way
but u know im busy man and the forum trust was a low priority issue

for me no matter how we solve this issue its good to make it easier for me to make a decision

the decision is to seek a BTT community manager someone of u
someone who can talk better english than me

i want to focus on my real job

and that is together with alex and daniel design our future and make it happen

i spend way to much here doing a community manager and a single forum marketing/promotion job where i am not the ideal man

please apply per PM toward popshot for BTT community manager slot
additional we seek marketing and promotion interested people

i will step a bit back

i did damage DMD the second time
once long ago when people said i damage the community by my bad written english
and now a second time

i know i did way more good for DMD than damage

but still thats no reason to not try avoid future damage

take the chance to involve urself deeper with DMD

apply to help popshot managing BTT

for future promotions run by me make sure u follow twitter or linkedin or our own forum

https://twitter.com/CryptonitDMD
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/helmut-siedl/92/460/586
http://bit.diamonds/community/

Cryptonit, after having read your latest negative rating, and its insular self-righteous motivation, made by an autocratic default trustlist member, I have changed my mind regarding Diamond not leaving bitcointalk.

The bitcointalk’s hierarchal structure seems more like the worst dictatorship. This doesn’t go hand in hand with the freedom of cryptocurrency and its good intentions.
This is no place for a serious coin like Diamond, which has a goal to reach people outside the cryptoworld and go mainstream. No person used to democracy and freedom of speech will accept an environment like this, where you can discredit a person with whatever you want just because you don’t like how that person is asking you questions or because you don’t think the person’s actions is cool. And where you are able to arbitrarily besmirch anyone just because you are hiding behind an account added to the default trustlist. So I agree with the earlier suggestion of moving to DMD forum at bit.diamonds.

Regarding language misinterpretations, I think that a forum should be open for everybody. It shouldn’t matter if english is your native language or not, DMD should be for all people regardless of nationality. So Cryptonit, if you step back for language reasons I think it’s wrong. You are very helpful and if somebody don’t understand your answers they can always ask again. That being said I do understand if you need time for other tasks. My trust in you is unchanged.

[miningfield]

how about a cool xmas present for someone u love?

some diamond style usb stick
example:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=node%3D3151491&field-keywords=diamond&rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A541966%2Cn%3A1292110011%2Cn%3A3151491%2Ck%3Adiamond

then install wallet on a stick
http://bit.diamonds/community/index.php/topic,55.0.html

register the wallet address there with the DMD Cloudmining

and then add some DMD Cloudmining shares

Great idea!

I'm preparing the release of a new DiamondOS version with more features, just in time for christmas.

More information soon 

[chilo]

Hi people
After some searching and experimenting, I can recommend some actions regarding the recent unfortunate 'trust debacle'.
The trust system includes a DefaultUsers list which is pre-populated with the users causing this debacle. I recommend turning this list off, in your own trust settings by placing a '~' directly in front of DefaultUsers. Then populate your list with users you trust. You can also set the level of depth you see ie the users you trust, then their trusts and so on. This will provide
a more accurate rating for you if you only work in a limited btct circle.
This is no solution to the current issue, but makes it a little less in-your-face for the time being.
I think the guys providing the negative feedback mean well but are a little trigger-happy. Hopefully they will become more reasonable soon.
Regards
chilo