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January 14, 2018, 02:23:50 AM
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it's two different privacy aspects: who sends a money and how much.
it's overlapped on one.

Sender, amount and receiver are all opaque. This is not an implication that is spun out of the idea that senders are obfuscated but actually a separate technology. Ring signatures are used to obfuscate senders while one time addresses anonymize receivers.
by opaque you mean that you can see smth derived from their public keys (called address).And what?
that's second aspect
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January 14, 2018, 02:26:15 AM
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it's two different privacy aspects: who sends a money and how much.
it's overlapped on one.

Sender, amount and receiver are all opaque. This is not an implication that is spun out of the idea that senders are obfuscated but actually a separate technology. Ring signatures are used to obfuscate senders while one time addresses anonymize receivers.
by opaque you mean that you can see smth derived from their public keys (called address).And what?
that's second aspect

I mean that one can not determine the identity of the sender or the receiver or the amount that was sent.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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January 14, 2018, 05:50:35 AM
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I am interested in buying monero in bulk off exchange so that I don't push the price around. If anyone is interested in selling whisper me.

Also if anyone knows of a thread that is intended for this purpose please do tell.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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i am curious  , is there anyone who have the same trouble as me (You seem to be missing the last word in your private key, please try again ) and has solved it?

i am reading and trying for days now and i know more people had this issue

Do you still have old bitmonero & simplewallet binaries?

no . to bad i had an accident which ruin 80 percent of my portfolio and computer so i have some xmr but i hold them on an exchange but i find a note with my ( old ) mnomenic seed for XMR and when trying to put in the seed in

https://mymonero.com/#/create-your-account , the above message about the last word of my seed has made me stop trying , how many words could be possible?

i also hear about an old simple wallet with 1 word less but i do not restored the old wallet

any more options to try???

my time off following XMR was at date with my old BTT acount (meccoin4me) which is also is useless after the accident and after starting crypto again i almost forgot about XMR , till i found my incomplte seed
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how many words could be possible?
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January 14, 2018, 05:26:35 PM
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how many words could be possible?
1627

This is the word list being used now.  Probably the list your seed was drawn from.  Look up your seed words on the list as a sanity check.

Being pedantic, but it's 1626:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/src/mnemonics/english.h#L53-L1678

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January 14, 2018, 05:28:43 PM
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i am curious  , is there anyone who have the same trouble as me (You seem to be missing the last word in your private key, please try again ) and has solved it?

i am reading and trying for days now and i know more people had this issue

Do you still have old bitmonero & simplewallet binaries?

no . to bad i had an accident which ruin 80 percent of my portfolio and computer so i have some xmr but i hold them on an exchange but i find a note with my ( old ) mnomenic seed for XMR and when trying to put in the seed in

https://mymonero.com/#/create-your-account , the above message about the last word of my seed has made me stop trying , how many words could be possible?

i also hear about an old simple wallet with 1 word less but i do not restored the old wallet

any more options to try???

my time off following XMR was at date with my old BTT acount (meccoin4me) which is also is useless after the accident and after starting crypto again i almost forgot about XMR , till i found my incomplte seed


The old mnemonic seeds had 24 words, whereas the current mnemonic seeds have 25 words. MyMonero probably accepts only 13 or 25 word mnemonic seeds.

I've asked Fluffypony if there is an archive somewhere with the old bitmonero & simplewallet binaries. Then, you can simply restore your wallet and open the .keys file with the most recent version.

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i am curious  , is there anyone who have the same trouble as me (You seem to be missing the last word in your private key, please try again ) and has solved it?

i am reading and trying for days now and i know more people had this issue

Do you still have old bitmonero & simplewallet binaries?

no . to bad i had an accident which ruin 80 percent of my portfolio and computer so i have some xmr but i hold them on an exchange but i find a note with my ( old ) mnomenic seed for XMR and when trying to put in the seed in

https://mymonero.com/#/create-your-account , the above message about the last word of my seed has made me stop trying , how many words could be possible?

i also hear about an old simple wallet with 1 word less but i do not restored the old wallet

any more options to try???

my time off following XMR was at date with my old BTT acount (meccoin4me) which is also is useless after the accident and after starting crypto again i almost forgot about XMR , till i found my incomplte seed


Apparently there's another way, try these steps:

1. Go to the Github repository: https://github.com/luigi1111/xmr.llcoins.net/

2. Press "Clone or download" and download the ZIP.

3. Note that the ZIP (i.e. included pages) can be used offline (on an airgapped system) if needed.

4. Extract the ZIP to a directory of your liking.

5. Open addresstests.html

6. Set the "Mnemonic Dictionary" to "Electrum (Aeon default)"

7. Enter your 24 word mnemonic seed in box "1. Mnemonic Seed:"

8. Press "Gen 2."

9. Set the "Mnemonic Dictionary" to "English (Monero default)"

10. Press "Gen 1."

You should now have a 25 word mnemonic seed that you can restore with the GUI:

https://medium.com/@Electricsheep56/the-monero-gui-wallet-broken-down-in-plain-english-bd2889b8c202

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January 15, 2018, 01:49:39 AM
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This was one of the most exciting projects in the bitcoin space a couple of years ago then it just died. http://www.othercoin.com/OtherCoin.pdf

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OtherCoin is an off-chain Bitcoin payment system based on a tamper-resistant smartcard in microSD form factor. OtherCoin works by securely generating, storing and transmitting Bitcoin private keys between parties. Private keys are never revealed to either the sender or the receiver, they can either be used directly in the Bitcoin protocol to sign transactions or securely transmitted to another OtherCoin user. Each OtherCoin smartcard guarantees that the key has either been securely generated by itself or has been received over a secure channel from a similar OtherCoin, with the same restrictions.

I haven't heard anyone talk about it in ages. I think it was a little before it's time. Bitcoin hadn't run into its scaling issues yet and hadn't become generally well known yet either. But maybe it's time has come?

FP specifically has put forward the idea of attacking scaling at all levels and it seems to me that this is a potentially very practical and powerful scaling vector. Additionally it would make many of moneros transactions entirely off chain. This has great implications for privacy. With our funding model we could probably raise the funds necessary to fund the development of some sort of open source application specific hardware device for this sort of thing if a knowledgeable hardware guy were to avail himself.

Mostly I just thought it would be cool if I could kick off a discussion about this proposal. Get it back in the public consciousness. More specifically into the Monero community consciousness. What are your thoughts dear reader?

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Hi,

I'm not sure this forum is appropriate, please forgive me and let me know if it isn't.

I use monero-gui-v0.11.1.0 and a single wallet.

Each integrated address I generate for this wallet share the same 88 first characters.  As far as I understand it shows that they are from the same wallet, I mean if I send one of those addresses to somebody,  then if I later send another to the same person, the person will know that those addresses are from the same wallet. Did I understand correctly?

If so how may I avoid this, in other terms how may I obtain completely unrelated (apparently) payment addresses? I understand that I can create a new wallet for each address, but it is not convenient (more things to do and my moneroj will be dispersed, leading to even more things to do if I have to pay a sum superior to any single wallet's contents).  A Bitcoin wallet lets me obtain (apparently) unrelated addresses, is it possible with a Monero wallet?

Thank you!
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How to use monero wallet from whitepaper?
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January 15, 2018, 11:51:51 AM
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Monero has been ignored lately, when in fact in terms of community score it is the sixth most trusted and searched coin in the crypto landscape.

http://newcryptoscape.herokuapp.com/
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Went to move a few coins on poloniex.

In balances it shows all my coins, but in the individual breakdown it shows 0 XMR.

Also it says all my coins are on an order.

But view my open orders shows none?

Anyone else had this weird thing?

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Went to move a few coins on poloniex.

In balances it shows all my coins, but in the individual breakdown it shows 0 XMR.

Also it says all my coins are on an order.

But view my open orders shows none?

Anyone else had this weird thing?



Treat it like windows.  log out, clear cache, reboot  Undecided

I don't think there is any exchange that isn't full of glitches right now.  For instance, polo won't let me set limit orders, and if it does, it deletes them shortly after. 
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Hi,

I'm not sure this forum is appropriate, please forgive me and let me know if it isn't.

I use monero-gui-v0.11.1.0 and a single wallet.

Each integrated address I generate for this wallet share the same 88 first characters.  As far as I understand it shows that they are from the same wallet, I mean if I send one of those addresses to somebody,  then if I later send another to the same person, the person will know that those addresses are from the same wallet. Did I understand correctly?

If so how may I avoid this, in other terms how may I obtain completely unrelated (apparently) payment addresses? I understand that I can create a new wallet for each address, but it is not convenient (more things to do and my moneroj will be dispersed, leading to even more things to do if I have to pay a sum superior to any single wallet's contents).  A Bitcoin wallet lets me obtain (apparently) unrelated addresses, is it possible with a Monero wallet?

Thank you!

Yes. It's fairly trivial to derive the plain address from the integrated address. Currently your situation is only avoided by creating multiple wallets. However, the next release will include subaddresses, which allows you to simply generate a new subaddress in the same wallet each time you have a need for a new "address". See:

https://lab.getmonero.org/ (MRL-0006)

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/sub-address?

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How to use monero wallet from whitepaper?

For the GUI, see this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7hhgjx/monero_gui_01110_helium_hydra_megathread_download/

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I personally know of some folks building large mining farms just to mine Monero. They believe Monero is the future. Are there any target prices for Monero with regards to valuation?

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I personally know of some folks building large mining farms just to mine Monero. They believe Monero is the future. Are there any target prices for Monero with regards to valuation?

Yes, there are many differing target prices out there for different time frames all with a different probability of success.  At the end of last year I basically said that my expectation was that Monero would reach about $4250 (about 10x growth) by the end of 2018 based on a bunch of assumptions and past experience. This may or may not come to pass in that time frame but, I firmly believe it will happen at the latest in 2019. It's always hard to grasp and be comfortable with the concepts of exponential growth so these types of predictions seem so outlandish... until they actually happen and then it's easier to look back at the charts and see it.

I know this is not a highly technical analysis but, I'll be anxious to see if I'm right or not anyway.
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I personally know of some folks building large mining farms just to mine Monero. They believe Monero is the future. Are there any target prices for Monero with regards to valuation?

Yes, there are many differing target prices out there for different time frames all with a different probability of success.  At the end of last year I basically said that my expectation was that Monero would reach about $4250 (about 10x growth) by the end of 2018 based on a bunch of assumptions and past experience. This may or may not come to pass in that time frame but, I firmly believe it will happen at the latest in 2019. It's always hard to grasp and be comfortable with the concepts of exponential growth so these types of predictions seem so outlandish... until they actually happen and then it's easier to look back at the charts and see it.

I know this is not a highly technical analysis but, I'll be anxious to see if I'm right or not anyway.


Whatever you are thinking, think bigger.


I'll see your 4250 and raise another 5000...
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January 15, 2018, 08:12:49 PM
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what about the other privacy coins with possibly better features ? someone has looked into them as well ?
Don't stick blindness to 1 coin, as there are maybe other good privacy coins as well.. possibly even better....
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