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September 02, 2014, 05:59:11 AM
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Hey hey hey fellas! My first post! Smiley

Just wanted to address some of the hyperbole and negativity that I've heard about - coming from these here parts.
I'd especially like to speak with two users in particular - "Barabbas" (I apologize if I spelled your name wrong) and "AltCoinUK".

To you two I say, "Hi!". Just have a few questions for you.

1. I was wondering, I suppose, what issues you two were having with VeriCoin specifically?
2. Are you forming compelling arguments and bringing constructive criticism - if not… why do you feel the way you do about VeriCoin?
3. Do you two currently "hold" VeriCoin? If not do you plan on investing in the coin going forward?

These are genuine questions as i'm sincerely interested in knowing why you two hold the positions you currently do atm.

Maybe a quick summary to catch me up on the back story and how everyone reached this unfortunate place?

Appreciate your time and hope we can start some meaningful dialogue!

Thanx!

Jay Jay
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll   

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September 02, 2014, 06:03:51 AM
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll   

I bet it's wether troll 1 or troll 2 with another nick who wants to keep this thread alive. Too obviously!

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September 02, 2014, 06:26:57 AM
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll   

I bet it's wether troll 1 or troll 2 with another nick who wants to keep this thread alive. Too obviously!
what do u mean? that I'm the troll?

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September 02, 2014, 06:30:08 AM
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll   

I bet it's wether troll 1 or troll 2 with another nick who wants to keep this thread alive. Too obviously!
what do u mean? that I'm the troll?
oh are you talking about veryveriviral? cause i can vouch for him, he's a good guy and actually more of an asset to vrc, I follow him on twitter he has the same name @veryveriviral , follow him ! great guy!

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September 02, 2014, 06:50:20 AM
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll  

I bet it's wether troll 1 or troll 2 with another nick who wants to keep this thread alive. Too obviously!
what do u mean? that I'm the troll?

No, of course not  Cheesy I meant Veryveriviral is wether alcoinuk or barabass with a new nick. Asking barabass and Acuk for a meaningful dialogue  doesn't sound like he's pro VRC.

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September 02, 2014, 06:52:53 AM
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll   

I bet it's wether troll 1 or troll 2 with another nick who wants to keep this thread alive. Too obviously!
what do u mean? that I'm the troll?

No, of course not  Cheesy I meant Veryveriviral is wether alcoinuk or barabass with a new nick
lol ya no i know him well... follow him on twitter @veryveriviral he's great for vrc , just stayed away from the thread, he doesn't trade either Smiley

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September 02, 2014, 06:57:15 AM
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll   

I bet it's wether troll 1 or troll 2 with another nick who wants to keep this thread alive. Too obviously!
what do u mean? that I'm the troll?

No, of course not  Cheesy I meant Veryveriviral is wether alcoinuk or barabass with a new nick
lol ya no i know him well... follow him on twitter @veryveriviral he's great for vrc , just stayed away from the thread, he doesn't trade either Smiley

So maybe you ask him on twitter if it's really him and I will apologize immediatly.

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September 02, 2014, 07:00:45 AM
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I'm refraining myself from responding to his last post towards me loll   

I bet it's wether troll 1 or troll 2 with another nick who wants to keep this thread alive. Too obviously!
what do u mean? that I'm the troll?

No, of course not  Cheesy I meant Veryveriviral is wether alcoinuk or barabass with a new nick
lol ya no i know him well... follow him on twitter @veryveriviral he's great for vrc , just stayed away from the thread, he doesn't trade either Smiley

So maybe you ask him on twitter if it's really him and I will apologize immediatly.
I'm talking to him in dm right now Smiley


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September 02, 2014, 07:03:31 AM
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others can vouch for him like socal...even the devs Wink

funny though what altcoinUK and barabbas have done to this thread , were scared to trust anyone new now... thats why we need to be moderated now..

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September 02, 2014, 07:09:53 AM
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Hey setup! No it's cool. I completely understand how you could be skeptical. After all it WAS my first post.
However I can assure you that I am neither of those two fellas.

I'm sincerely attempting to apply some sort of diplomacy here as well as figure out how all this came to be.

I hope Barabbas and AltCoinUK really do respond to my original post with some genuine input on their behalf and we can begin a healthy discussion about why they feel the way they do about VeriCoin.

Ideally I'd also like for others to refrain from "jumping in" as that kind of behavior only results in a downward spiral and nothing good ever comes from it.

Thanx!

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Hey setup! No it's cool. I completely understand how you could be skeptical. After all it WAS my first post.
However I can assure you that I am neither of those two fellas.

I'm sincerely attempting to apply some sort of diplomacy here as well as figure out how all this came to be.

I hope Barabbas and AltCoinUK really do respond to my original post with some genuine input on their behalf and we can begin a healthy discussion about why they feel the way they do about VeriCoin.

Ideally I'd also like for others to refrain from "jumping in" as that kind of behavior only results in a downward spiral and nothing good ever comes from it.

Thanx!

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go for it bro do your thing!

they'll answer you soon thats 100% lol prob just fell asleep at his computer or he's been writing you the novel this whole time...should be done soon Wink

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September 02, 2014, 07:24:31 AM
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Hey setup! No it's cool. I completely understand how you could be skeptical. After all it WAS my first post.
However I can assure you that I am neither of those two fellas.

I'm sincerely attempting to apply some sort of diplomacy here as well as figure out how all this came to be.

I hope Barabbas and AltCoinUK really do respond to my original post with some genuine input on their behalf and we can begin a healthy discussion about why they feel the way they do about VeriCoin.

Ideally I'd also like for others to refrain from "jumping in" as that kind of behavior only results in a downward spiral and nothing good ever comes from it.

Thanx!

Jay Jay
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Ok Jay Jay, so I have to apologize. Sorry! But it's senseless to ask these guys for a healthy discussion. Other users have tried (me included). They are absolutely not willing to accept arguements. They are simply just negative or hired from somebody to talk VRC down.

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September 02, 2014, 07:26:48 AM
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Hey setup! No it's cool. I completely understand how you could be skeptical. After all it WAS my first post.
However I can assure you that I am neither of those two fellas.

I'm sincerely attempting to apply some sort of diplomacy here as well as figure out how all this came to be.

I hope Barabbas and AltCoinUK really do respond to my original post with some genuine input on their behalf and we can begin a healthy discussion about why they feel the way they do about VeriCoin.

Ideally I'd also like for others to refrain from "jumping in" as that kind of behavior only results in a downward spiral and nothing good ever comes from it.

Thanx!

Jay Jay
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Ok Jay Jay, so I have to apologize. Sorry! But it's senseless to ask these guys for a healthy discussion. Other users have tried (me included). They are absolutely not willing to accept arguements. They are simply just negative or hired from somebody to talk VRC down.

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Michael
i 2nd that...lol hence the reason i finally blew up...sorry bout that lol

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September 02, 2014, 10:17:59 AM
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I dread coming to this forum now.  Angry
It used to have contributions from devs and was generally positive.
Now it seems to be some sort of non-violent ethnic cleansing site.
VRC is rapidly losing credibility and needs resuscitation. Feeding trolls improves the chance they will win. Please hit ignore and don't respond. Go beat up a verifluffy pillow to vent your rage. It's therapeutic and nobody gets hurt. Probably wasting my time saying this.  Sad

+1

ive been saying that for awhile now doesnt seem to be working.

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September 02, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
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Hey setup! No it's cool. I completely understand how you could be skeptical. After all it WAS my first post.
However I can assure you that I am neither of those two fellas.

I'm sincerely attempting to apply some sort of diplomacy here as well as figure out how all this came to be.

I hope Barabbas and AltCoinUK really do respond to my original post with some genuine input on their behalf and we can begin a healthy discussion about why they feel the way they do about VeriCoin.

Ideally I'd also like for others to refrain from "jumping in" as that kind of behavior only results in a downward spiral and nothing good ever comes from it.

Thanx!

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Dude their dislike for this thread and its people goes way beyond the reasonable.
Dont waste your time their Either Paid to do this or their running another agenda.
They have turned this thread into a cesspool If u read back ull find that around 50% of the posts in this thread is them bashing everything and everyone.
and then getting quoted and requoted over and over and over again.
I commend your effort but I think your wasting your time and engergy.

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September 02, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
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Not sure what's been said these last few posts that has caused the back and forth schoolboy arguing but it's pathetic. I think AltCoinUK makes some good points and I think he makes some bad one's. I chose to have a discussion with him like an adult and address his points I disagreed with and he challenged me on what I was saying. People are always going to disagree and it's healthy for Vericoin.

There definitely is some fanaticism on show here and it's obvious. This is 100% because of bagholding. Yes I said that awful word no one likes but it's true. I'm a bagholder and I bet 95% of people on this thread are. There's no shame. You have to accept it and stop being emotional over it. If you invested more than you can afford, too bad, you won't next time. If you didn't then stop acting immature and start talking about how we can realistically improve the coin to recoup the investment. As to why we are bagholding is a sensitive issue but for me it's down to the following reasons. Getting into bed with scum like wizrig, pnosker pumping the coin on twitter which is incredibly unprofessional, hyping announcements that are crap, no development updates for weeks. lots of reasons. Their should be at least a weekly blog post somewhere to update the community on the coins progress, you know an offical channel of communication. Not getting passed tidbits from the inner circle over irc and on here.

I'm hanging on until I break even, then I'll assess the situation as to whether I stick around or not.





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September 02, 2014, 12:24:51 PM
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we are all going to need therapy after the up coming novel series... The Lord of the VeriRing - The Two Fudders
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Not sure what's been said these last few posts that has caused the back and forth schoolboy arguing but it's pathetic. I think AltCoinUK makes some good points and I think he makes some bad one's. I chose to have a discussion with him like an adult and address his points I disagreed with and he challenged me on what I was saying. People are always going to disagree and it's healthy for Vericoin.

There definitely is some fanaticism on show here and it's obvious. This is 100% because of bagholding. Yes I said that awful word no one likes but it's true. I'm a bagholder and I bet 95% of people on this thread are. There's no shame. You have to accept it and stop being emotional over it. If you invested more than you can afford, too bad, you won't next time. If you didn't then stop acting immature and start talking about how we can realistically improve the coin to recoup the investment. As to why we are bagholding is a sensitive issue but for me it's down to the following reasons. Getting into bed with scum like wizrig, pnosker pumping the coin on twitter which is incredibly unprofessional, hyping announcements that are crap, no development updates for weeks. lots of reasons. Their should be at least a weekly blog post somewhere to update the community on the coins progress, you know an offical channel of communication. Not getting passed tidbits from the inner circle over irc and on here.

I'm hanging on until I break even, then I'll assess the situation as to whether I stick around or not.







I so agree with most of what u said but UK has Intentionally or not helped turn this thread into a playground fight.
We agree on most stuff Bad communication , bad choices , insane hype like the negotiation with dev that will push this to 100k and then say we cant say anything more i mean Wtf ..
But the way Auk and B are just picking fights with everyone its horrible for the coin its Price and everyone involved.
And people are sick of it as shown be the personal attacks calling him gay etc . i mean what the hell would that have to do with Anything even if he was.
But thats the level we seem to have arrived at, give me a moderated thread with Daily or Weekly Updates have one guy hang around Irc Twitter and listen to vrc radio and Post the RELEVANT stuff on that moderated thread.




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We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle
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September 02, 2014, 01:51:16 PM
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Not sure what's been said these last few posts that has caused the back and forth schoolboy arguing but it's pathetic. I think AltCoinUK makes some good points and I think he makes some bad one's. I chose to have a discussion with him like an adult and address his points I disagreed with and he challenged me on what I was saying. People are always going to disagree and it's healthy for Vericoin.

There definitely is some fanaticism on show here and it's obvious. This is 100% because of bagholding. Yes I said that awful word no one likes but it's true. I'm a bagholder and I bet 95% of people on this thread are. There's no shame. You have to accept it and stop being emotional over it. If you invested more than you can afford, too bad, you won't next time. If you didn't then stop acting immature and start talking about how we can realistically improve the coin to recoup the investment.

Barabbas and AltcoinUK are far too negative and as sluppy said their animosity for Vericoin goes way beyond the reasonable, it's not good for the coin. Still, as you've pointed out the dialogue should be civil in this thread. The haters gonna hate, but it looks very bad if the community accept the toxic support and vericoin supporters behave like ereborltc and the homophobic ofp. What that ofp guy does remind me socal in the early days, before he was asked to be civilized  Cheesy  the scurrilous and uncivilized tone is not how nxt, sys or drk supporters post in their threads.    



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Getting into bed with scum like wizrig, pnosker pumping the coin on twitter which is incredibly unprofessional, hyping announcements that are crap, no development updates for weeks. lots of reasons. Their should be at least a weekly blog post somewhere to update the community on the coins progress, you know an offical channel of communication. Not getting passed tidbits from the inner circle over irc and on here.

I'm hanging on until I break even, then I'll assess the situation as to whether I stick around or not.

Well said, transparency and frequent updates would be great.
Everyone wait for the break even  Cheesy
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