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August 22, 2014, 01:05:57 PM

Looks like today is going to be good day to buy. Looking to pick up some VRC today. Delay in announcement is a positive for me. Tells me to buy more before a price hike. I use the C.A.T. bot which just stock piles VRC for me all day on different exchanges.

Huh C.A.T. Bot   Huh?

please educate me on this

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Stuff ..

Sorry you don't like the whole mass adoption theme. That was something we stated as a theme (and we aren't going to quit our goals there) from the get-go. And that's also why our first features were VeriSMS and VeriBit. Because they make things easier for others.

...

We don't want VeriCoin to be an "altcoin" but rather VeriCoin-- a coin people don't relate to altcoins because it's bigger than that.

Ambitious plan - there are two issues with that

1) You and your supporters have no idea how the worldwide mass adoption will be achieved as well as why would anyone pay with vericoin instead of the well established BTC? You directly compete with BTC when you push your worldwide mass adoption theme and that makes the worldwide mass adoption theme an unsustainable business plan. Therefore, the market doesn't like your worldwide mass adoption theme. Every rational person knows you are unable to compete with BTC on the worldwide mass adoption front. Despite the billion dollars VC investment for BTC infrastructure/utility projects even BTC struggle to educate and convince the mass public to use crypto currencies. What makes you think that you can make a revolution and convince the mass public to use a) crypto currencies  b) use vericoin instead of BTC?  You can't, it is a delusion and fantasy.

2) Your worldwide mass adoption theme is outdated. Yes, it made sense to go with this theme in March/April when you started your coin, it seemed at the time that Litecoin and many other BTC clones can co-exist with BTC, but the events of this summer made clear that all BTC clone altcoins will disappear, except those few blockchain 2 enabled coins. The market spoke this summer about all BTC/LTC clones like VeriCoin. Investors and the community (except your maximum 20 men strong hurrah brigade) are not interested in your worldwide mass adoption theme. Investors don't want to touch your coin, because it's clear you can't achieve mass adoption for vericoin. Instead of investors are interested in blockchain 2 platforms which address the shortcoming of BTC, provide users with more features and do more than BTC does.

If you stick to your worldwide mass adoption theme, you will have the tackle the same issue again and again: VeriCoin is nothing else but one of the 300 BTC clones, there is no unique selling point for vericoin. Just like yourself, we investors thought your CV and academic background will be the unique selling point for VeriCoin, but clearly it's not enough, the well played transparency card doesn't make vericoin an attractive investment opportunity. Having said that, Barrabas could be right again by saying that your only chance is to play the "Good guys" card, it is an option to build on how you handled the mintpal hack.

In my opinion, better to start working because you didn't deliver a thing in the last 8 weeks. To turn around this ship you could try start working on a blockhcain 2 platform by addressing one specific area that you are comfortable with such as decentralized exchange, marketplace or crowd funding and do better that one area than ethereum, viacoin, cloak, etc. Then vericoin would have an actual use case and it would be more than one of the 300 BTC/LTC clones. I have to admit you have little chance to succeed with that blockchain 2 theme, but it is still significantly more than the zero chance of the delusional worldwide mass adoption theme.

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August 22, 2014, 01:20:10 PM

Looks like today is going to be good day to buy. Looking to pick up some VRC today. Delay in announcement is a positive for me. Tells me to buy more before a price hike. I use the C.A.T. bot which just stock piles VRC for me all day on different exchanges.

Huh C.A.T. Bot   Huh?

please educate me on this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.0

Get tool once mastered. I set a timer and a profit margin along with a few other settings. It gains me vrc through out the day. I try to use 3,000 vericoins on different exchanges and move the profits to wallet to maintain 3,000. I trade a bunch of other coins also. Basically anything that is hot. Other coins I go for BTC instead of coins. Drk, Cloak, Sys are hot traders for btc profit.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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August 22, 2014, 01:32:08 PM

Looks like today is going to be good day to buy. Looking to pick up some VRC today. Delay in announcement is a positive for me. Tells me to buy more before a price hike. I use the C.A.T. bot which just stock piles VRC for me all day on different exchanges.

Huh C.A.T. Bot   Huh?

please educate me on this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.0

Get tool once mastered. I set a timer and a profit margin along with a few other settings. It gains me vrc through out the day. I try to use 3,000 vericoins on different exchanges and move the profits to wallet to maintain 3,000. I trade a bunch of other coins also. Basically anything that is hot. Other coins I go for BTC instead of coins. Drk, Cloak, Sys are hot traders for btc profit.

I need to study on this. First question would be Who is "Sampey"?

I would be concerned about loading any "Bot" onto my compter due to security issues and the "Wild Wild West" nature of the Digital Currency universe at present.

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August 22, 2014, 01:33:08 PM

barabbas red remarks


I want to thank you for the feedback / criticism provided.

To answer some of your concerns:

Solid marketing plan: Regardless of how good a product or service is, in order to reach millions of people who might not know what such product is, we must market it. There are various ways, word to mouth, public awareness, guerrilla tactic campaigns as you previously mentioned via VRC day, which I  stated i love the idea and would support it. ( wish we could really set some time to discuss a strategy, what to do that day, what other promotional materials we can include and flesh the ideas it is not something you can just pull off with 2 weeks time, we are talking about a global movement) * best idea you ever had btw.

Promotional Video Put yourself in the shoes of someone who has never heard of crypto. Then mention VRC coin or whatever. They will have a strange look. Now imagine if you hand them a flyer say a white paper filled with Technobabble. it will just confuse them even more. Now imagine a simple, clear, practical video, could be short say 30 seconds as it needs to translated into ads as well. Think Apple, Google have a look at their videos. It is very lifestyle driven, ie how can i use this product, what is it, what can it do for me and my family overseas.. oh i can send them money, etc.

Contrary to what you may think, most people online do not love to read long paragraphs, I will do my best to keep this short Smiley The video link you provided would not work for this demographic. It is too flashy, over the top, Vegas etc.

Realistic goals Some technical features need to be updated in the current coin. New flat UI, to create a modern look etc. Notice what took place here past few days, instead of giving an exact date, it might be best to set a realistic timeline ie Q3 of this year, then when closer to such date and you know everything has been finalized we can promote whatever it is. I am sure the devs have other things going in their lives as well, This will lessen the stress and they have stated how they will go forward from this and apologized for any delays.

Updated Brand look The original VRC logo concept was not my idea. The idea is solid to combine the % aspect with the V. My task: New updated feel, with a modern geometric Bold typeface, made sure everything was aligned, Flat solid colors vs the gradient from previous. I will request that the devs publish the brand book I created, you can judge for yourself my thought process, from typography, color palette, when / where to use. Do's and Don't practical usage of this. I am responsible for the new VRC website design you see as well.  Since it is modular, it can always be updated. Batman vs Superman ? mmm I prefer Iron Man or Silver Surfer the comics that is Smiley

Work as a team / Community / news I had to combine these, respect is part of it. All it takes is some insult and this thread gets derailed. Important info, updates get lost. Hence the suggested blog updates. As for Video hang out, having a public image creates a positive message. These guys are real people. Not some random screenmame creating some fly by night coin. In this sea of hundreds of scam coins, Trust is everything. As a community we must do our part too. I know you wanted to promote the coin, view above. Others are starting too.

Ideas Nothing wrong with adding and sharing ideas. Everything begins with an idea. As long as we can share them in a positive respectful manner. We all want the same thing. We want this coin to succeed.

So thank you for your feedback.

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Stuff ..

Sorry you don't like the whole mass adoption theme. That was something we stated as a theme (and we aren't going to quit our goals there) from the get-go. And that's also why our first features were VeriSMS and VeriBit. Because they make things easier for others.

...

We don't want VeriCoin to be an "altcoin" but rather VeriCoin-- a coin people don't relate to altcoins because it's bigger than that.

Ambitious plan - there are two issues with that

1) You and your supporters have no idea how the worldwide mass adoption will be achieved as well as why would anyone pay with vericoin instead of the well established BTC? You directly compete with BTC when you push your worldwide mass adoption theme and that makes the worldwide mass adoption theme an unsustainable business plan. Therefore, the market doesn't like your worldwide mass adoption theme. Every rational person knows you are unable to compete with BTC on the worldwide mass adoption front. Despite the billion dollars VC investment for BTC infrastructure/utility projects even BTC struggle to educate and convince the mass public to use crypto currencies. What makes you think that you can make a revolution and convince the mass public to use a) crypto currencies  b) use vericoin instead of BTC?  You can't, it is a delusion and fantasy.

2) Your worldwide mass adoption theme is outdated. Yes, it made sense to go with this theme in March/April when you started your coin, it seemed at the time that Litecoin and many other BTC clones can co-exist with BTC, but the events of this summer made clear that all BTC clone altcoins will disappear, except those few blockchain 2 enabled coins. The market spoke this summer about all BTC/LTC clones like VeriCoin. Investors and the community (except your maximum 20 men strong hurrah brigade) are not interested in your worldwide mass adoption theme. Investors don't want to touch your coin, because it's clear you can't achieve mass adoption for vericoin. Instead of investors are interested in blockchain 2 platforms which address the shortcoming of BTC, provide users with more features and do more than BTC does.

If you stick to your worldwide mass adoption theme, you will have the tackle the same issue again and again: VeriCoin is nothing else but one of the 300 BTC clones, there is no unique selling point for vericoin. Just like yourself, we investors thought your CV and academic background will be the unique selling point for VeriCoin, but clearly it's not enough, the well played transparency card doesn't make vericoin an attractive investment opportunity. Having said that, Barrabas could be right again by saying that your only chance is to play the "Good guys" card, it is an option to build on how you handled the mintpal hack.

In my opinion, better to start working because you didn't deliver a thing in the last 8 weeks. To turn around this ship you could try start working on a blockhcain 2 platform by addressing one specific area that you are comfortable with such as decentralized exchange, marketplace or crowd funding and do better that one area than ethereum, viacoin, cloak, etc. Then vericoin would have an actual use case and it would be more than one of the 300 BTC/LTC clones. I have to admit you have little chance to succeed with that blockchain 2 theme, but it is still significantly more than the zero chance of the delusional worldwide mass adoption theme.



And here are another 500 words of rubbish to add to the 15,000 you wrote yesterday. I guess you've got another exciting day of hitting refresh on the VRC thread. Enjoy. 
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August 22, 2014, 01:52:47 PM

Looks like today is going to be good day to buy. Looking to pick up some VRC today. Delay in announcement is a positive for me. Tells me to buy more before a price hike. I use the C.A.T. bot which just stock piles VRC for me all day on different exchanges.

Huh C.A.T. Bot   Huh?

please educate me on this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.0

Get tool once mastered. I set a timer and a profit margin along with a few other settings. It gains me vrc through out the day. I try to use 3,000 vericoins on different exchanges and move the profits to wallet to maintain 3,000. I trade a bunch of other coins also. Basically anything that is hot. Other coins I go for BTC instead of coins. Drk, Cloak, Sys are hot traders for btc profit.

I need to study on this. First question would be Who is "Sampey"?

I would be concerned about loading any "Bot" onto my compter due to security issues and the "Wild Wild West" nature of the Digital Currency universe at present.

the cat is a well known bot and people are pretty happy with that one.
Still everyone using stuff people out of this forum should do it on a virtual server.
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August 22, 2014, 01:56:11 PM

VRCRadio.com LIVE! in 5 minutes

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Shinraven must be very proud of himself  Roll Eyes

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August 22, 2014, 02:01:40 PM

With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info
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Sampey is the dev behind it. A few of my friends and I have been using his products for awhile now. I have never had trust issues with him and neither have any of my friend. I'm not sure what the referral fee is for his product but if anyone here is interested you can let him know my referral "KryptoKings" can go forward towards the discount of the buy.

Like I said it is a great way to earn vrc. If the market has lots of up and down movement with volume I can make 800+ vrc. But like I always say, crypto is a gamble and you can lose your azz if your not careful. Read his guide 5 or 6 times and start small before going up too high. I recommend spreading things out on different exchanges once you decide to go higher. Bittrex, Crypsy are reall good. Bter is ok at times. Poloniex is too slow though you can make 3% profit but expect it to only happen 2 or 3 times. I prefer 1% on Bittrex/Cryptsy 10-15 times a day.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info


WOW!!!! NICE!!!!

@effectsToCause - now im the mad person... I am still buying up cheap VRC... ugh... LoL


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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August 22, 2014, 02:07:40 PM

With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info

Is this the deal that has been made? Wow super! i really like the design of the card

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August 22, 2014, 02:10:00 PM

With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info

Is this the deal that has been made? Wow super! i really like the design of the card

This is it, sorry for the delay guys.
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August 22, 2014, 02:13:00 PM

With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info

Is this the deal that has been made? Wow super! i really like the design of the card

Wow! I can use VRC for credit card purchases now?!  VeriPsyched!

Edit: Nice job putting this one together devs!

VRC: VMTMcvFjZHAshmVNLY5KYVHCTqcfEnH6Bd  SLR: 8W7D6D7rortYp51BK9MSrfripSoZWyVPVr  BTC: 1LbgAsTDtyWEGjiSaguJhJbaHBPgcMnHfP  BCC: 1Ta39PK67VXTD2xnmPNo5J9KJyBVHdYmy
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August 22, 2014, 02:15:18 PM

This is what people are supposed to be excited about?


http://www.coinsis.com/

#5,211,544 Alexa Website rank

Here is a website I made, with no web experience.

FreeDarkcoins.com

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Pretty incredible that this big deal, was another promise. Good for you all that got excited. I am out for good with this continued BS!


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August 22, 2014, 02:16:14 PM

With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info

Is this the deal that has been made? Wow super! i really like the design of the card

This is it, sorry for the delay guys.

How big is the scope of http://www.coinsis.com? I never heard of them, and from alexa traffic ranks, nobody else has either.

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August 22, 2014, 02:17:00 PM

@ effectsToCause - dont apologize to no one!!! You make the announcement and drop the mic and walk off.



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info

Is this the deal that has been made? Wow super! i really like the design of the card

This is it, sorry for the delay guys.

How big is the scope of http://www.coinsis.com? I never heard of them, and from alexa traffic ranks, nobody else has either.

They are brand new, you will know them very well shortly
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August 22, 2014, 02:19:26 PM

With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info



why, after such news does not rise the price?
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