[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[altcoinUK]

I hope I'm doing this right. lol (Do I just type below the quote etc???)
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@Jay Jay,

I appreciate your civil post - it always great to have a constructive dialogue with a fine gentleman like yourself. :-)))

Since you mentioned what I do and shouldn't do, I can assure you that I have genuine interest in the success of this coin. Besides that, I am in an unfortunate situation as I got into this coin a few good friends, they have trusted my experience in Bitcoin and software engineering and quite rightly they are asking lately: wtf, what is happening with VRC while other coins doing well, is that's all what our experienced PhD students and MS developers can deliver ... and I have to admit those questions are valid.

While I agree with you that we need to give the developers time to deliver, it seems to me your are not familiar with the technological, software engineering, business and integrity issues the vericoin operation is having such as

a) There is no real, notable innovation in vericoin. Please refer to the source code or if you aren't familiar with C/C++ programming then open your wallet and I am sure you will agree with this premise.

b) The devs - who presented them self as capable software developers and we bought the coin assuming they can actually develop software at the level of btcdrak, Peter Todd, Gavin Andersen, Gavin Wood just to mention a few from the good ones - are incapable to develop this coin, they are so arrogant that this issue cannot be discussed and investors have no idea whether this issue is being addresses at all.

c) The integrity of the devs unfortunately is not pure nor respectable as you've described it. We thought the shady association with the scammer WizRig was an isolated event - it is not. See the latest shameful act of EffectsToCause and verileader Reavon when they assisted in that 132 BTC trade on IRC two days ago, which trade was very much on the border line of fraud. What is very embarrassing (personally to me as well), that this happened on the IRC channel, the whole shameful act was witnessed by a serious investor whom actually I suggested to go to IRC if he wants more updated info about the DEV4 affair (and then he visited the IRC channel and sent me the details of that 132 BTC scam event so I am familiar with what happened). All who involved in that scam/fraud on the VeriCoin IRC media in the first place EffectsToCause should be ashamed by their acts (and btw Kevondo if you read this, I doubt very much that Herman guy with the 132 BTC was Barabbas and it was certainly not me, instead of making accusations talk to your shining star Doug Pike about why he was interested to scam a retarded who happened to have 132 BTC).

Now, the issues I described in points a-c can be addressed with steady software engineering work and acting with integrity. I hope you will be helping to adopt such practices within this operation.

On the note of implementation details, perhaps we need to learn from the proactive, professional and competent approach of ViaCoin. It has been a very good money for me what's happening with Via, but as a VRC bag holder I would like to see the same progress with vericoin as well, and since it's not a rocket science really what btcdrak does with ViaCoin, there is nothing shame in learning from others.

If you really want this coin succeed Jay Jay, then in my opinion you need to pay more attention to the technological, professional competence (see devs), integrity and community aspects of the operation instead of being concerned about the critical voices of this thread.
Also, until you don't take issue with the community/devs that comfortable with homophobic and obscene insults - in case if when the insults are directed to critical investors - then don't expect better atmosphere here.

Speak soon :-))

  

[creamynebula]

What is the current wallet version? I'm not seeing a version number in either the website or the first post of this thread

[setup]

What is the current wallet version? I'm not seeing a version number in either the website or the first post of this thread

1.3.4

you can see it on http://vericoinnews.info

[ScottAllyn]

c) The integrity of the devs unfortunately is not pure nor respectable as you've described it. We thought the shady association with the scammer WizRig was an isolated event - it is not. See the latest shameful act of EffectsToCause and verileader Reavon when they assisted in that 132 BTC trade on IRC two days ago, which trade was very much on the border line of fraud. What is very embarrassing (personally to me as well), that this happened on the IRC channel, the whole shameful act was witnessed by a serious investor whom actually I suggested to go to IRC if he wants more updated info about the DEV4 affair (and then he visited the IRC channel and sent me the details of that 132 BTC scam event so I am familiar with what happened). All who involved in that scam/fraud on the VeriCoin IRC media in the first place EffectsToCause should be ashamed by their acts (and btw Kevondo if you read this, I doubt very much that Herman guy with the 132 BTC was Barabbas and it was certainly not me, instead of making accusations talk to your shining star Doug Pike about why he was interested to scam a retarded who happened to have 132 BTC).

Oh c'mon! The guy claiming to have 132 BTC is an obvious scammer. He's pulled this little stunt a number of times in the channel, hoping to find someone to take the bait.

This guy posts screenshots of some blockchain.info address as proof that he has the BTC as well as some fabricated text log that's supposed to "certify his authenticity". He wants you to send him the VRC first, after which he'll send you the BTC payment. OR, he'll mention using another completely unknown person for escrow. As soon as anybody tries to get the guy to commit to a legitimate escrow service, his english will suddenly  become 10 times worse and he'll act completely confused ("why no want just trade now?") ... or he disappears completely.

Shame on them for trying to call his bluff and maybe having a bit of fun with him in the process!  

[Wreathy]

We have a great community here  :-)))

We do have a great community Thanks.

AltcoinUK.

Deary me, SILLY You : ).

Obviously must of slipped your mind and completely forgot to answer, some questions posed to you a few days ago.

So are you suggesting that, using VRC to BUY stuff with OUT the need to HAVE or OWNING BITCOIN is a bad thing for vericoin to have initiated.

What happens when BTC start's to be adopted world wide, which is just on the cusp of happening.

Dark/stealth/invisible/cloak coins?, They will be a grave matter of concern for governments, long before they are considered or sanctioned for use. Bad investments.
Any coin with with intentions to hide transactions will suffer. after all if we all start dodging paying taxes !.


Please explain to us/me why I should not invest in Vericoin. Preferably not why its todays price on an exchange. Buts Its real value, in its possibilities, as decribed on page 1 and thread subject. And what would could you suggest? as a better coin to invest in?.

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[setup]

Come on Wreathy,

can't you not simply ignore him instead of giving him the opportunity to answer and to post another bullshit?

[troicho]

This coin is a moon waiting to happen. Active devs, real life adoptation, updates coming. Looks a bit bullish in the charts also.

Active devs??? I assume you're joking? These "active devs" haven't released anything for 10 weeks. They can not  even fix the goddamn wallet.

[altcoinUK]

c) The integrity of the devs unfortunately is not pure nor respectable as you've described it. We thought the shady association with the scammer WizRig was an isolated event - it is not. See the latest shameful act of EffectsToCause and verileader Reavon when they assisted in that 132 BTC trade on IRC two days ago, which trade was very much on the border line of fraud. What is very embarrassing (personally to me as well), that this happened on the IRC channel, the whole shameful act was witnessed by a serious investor whom actually I suggested to go to IRC if he wants more updated info about the DEV4 affair (and then he visited the IRC channel and sent me the details of that 132 BTC scam event so I am familiar with what happened). All who involved in that scam/fraud on the VeriCoin IRC media in the first place EffectsToCause should be ashamed by their acts (and btw Kevondo if you read this, I doubt very much that Herman guy with the 132 BTC was Barabbas and it was certainly not me, instead of making accusations talk to your shining star Doug Pike about why he was interested to scam a retarded who happened to have 132 BTC).

Oh c'mon! The guy claiming to have 132 BTC is an obvious scammer. He's pulled this little stunt a number of times in the channel, hoping to find someone to take the bait.

This guy posts screenshots of some blockchain.info address as proof that he has the BTC as well as some fabricated text log that's supposed to "certify his authenticity". He wants you to send him the VRC first, after which he'll send you the BTC payment. OR, he'll mention using another completely unknown person for escrow. As soon as anybody tries to get the guy to commit to a legitimate escrow service, his english will suddenly  become 10 times worse and he'll act completely confused ("why no want just trade now?") ... or he disappears completely.

Shame on them for trying to call his bluff and maybe having a bit of fun with him in the process!  

Before we discuss that matter, for the very right reasons you are a respected member of this community :-)) and unlike me, you are an English speaker, would you put these two fuckers above and below your post, the "setup" and "Wreathy" boys to their right place please? These two idiots, your two nice Verileaders were very comfortably supported the homophobic and the obsessed with dick eating retards when they made this thread a war zone. For the sake of young gay peoples who have never chosen to be what they are, but they still must suffer every day at school, home and virtually everywhere from idiots like these four nice Verileaders, explain to them please that your community do not need their support. Thanks.

As for EffectsToCause assist to the scam, yeah, there is always something else, once the manipulative WizRig, then the pumping tweets were just an opinion, then the appearance in the exchange troll box during the pump, the 200k sent to the exchange, everything was just a joke or naive mistake. But before we talk about that was it a scam or joke and I would tell you what do I know about Herman, I would have a question: if it was a prank and the IRC members knew it was a prank, how it come 2 hours later one of the respected IRC member came to me and offered the 132 BTC to me, as well as offered Herman as a completely legit and  verified trader, and that a deal with him will be escrowed? If you IRC boys knew it was a joke, then why you offered to me the 132 BTC - the very same money that you knew is not existent? I mean, it's either not true what you say that it was a joke or if the 132 BTC was a joke, then one of the respected IRC verileader tried to scam me.

And after lets discuss, how the act of EffectsToCause the lead developer who involved in a scam (suddenly is a joke) to gain 132 BTC, so how that event effected my friend, an investor who genuinely believing in the PhD boys bought 100k VRC and was in the IRC channel as he was interested to see if there is any info about DEV4.

[Wreathy]

AltcoinUK please feel free to quote me with the words, or the type of foul language your suggesting I have used.

 In the mean while the questions I asked still remain unanswered .

 Also just slightly curious as to why you keep hinting about the fact you are not english???.  No cares if you're English or not. But your Name an amazing grasp of the english language grammar and spelling you possess, suggests to me and this is my opinion ONLY,  Your British you give it away mate. far too many times.
 

 I have said this before. Your very Evasive.

[ScottAllyn]

As for EffectsToCause assist to the scam, yeah, there is always something else, once the manipulative WizRig, then the pumping tweets were just an opinion, then the appearance in the exchange troll box during the pump, the 200k sent to the exchange, everything was just a joke or naive mistake. But before we talk about that was it a scam or joke and I would tell you what do I know about Herman, I would have a question: if it was a prank and the IRC members knew it was a prank, how it come 2 hours later one of the respected IRC member came to me and offered the 132 BTC to me, as well as offered Herman as a completely legit and  verified trader, and that a deal with him will be escrowed? If you IRC boys knew it was a joke, then why you offered to me the 132 BTC - the very same money that you knew is not existent? I mean, it's either not true what you say that it was a joke or if the 132 BTC was a joke, then one of the respected IRC verileader tried to scam me.

Gee, I dunno... maybe not everybody on IRC at the time knew it was a scam. Maybe none of them did. Maybe it's  actually someone legitimately looking to trade BTC for VRC and it's a mere coincidence that he uses the exact approach and technique that the scammers use. Let's all just throw out blatant accusations and hang everybody before getting all of the facts.

[Isokoira]

Oh hey the price is going up.  Did Barabbas mention vericoin world day or something??  LOL

[buy4crypto]

Anyone else seen this website? I think VeriCoin could benefit from this type of website. Simple, and straight forward. Get people from point a to point b. You could even put this in the wallet, which would be about as user friendly as you could be. I would love to host this service. It would be easily done, and viewed on my website I will use for this project. You will not find 1 .com better suited for a mainstream project like this.

http://trybtc.com/

I'd love to provide this type of service on vericoins.com

Anyone with technical, or design capabilities interested in teaming up for a project like this could contact me.

*Edit You can also use VRC.xyz if people prefer that, but I feel .coms are better at this stage of the game.

[Wreathy]

Anyone else seen this website? I think VeriCoin could benefit from this type of website. Simple, and straight forward. Get people from point a to point b. You could even put this in the wallet, which would be about as user friendly as you could be. I would love to host this service. It would be easily done, and viewed on my website I will use for this project. You will not find 1 .com better suited for a mainstream project like this.

http://trybtc.com/

I'd love to provide this type of service on vericoins.com

Anyone with technical, or design capabilities interested in teaming up for a project like this could contact me.

Interesting idea!.

[buy4crypto]

Anyone else seen this website? I think VeriCoin could benefit from this type of website. Simple, and straight forward. Get people from point a to point b. You could even put this in the wallet, which would be about as user friendly as you could be. I would love to host this service. It would be easily done, and viewed on my website I will use for this project. You will not find 1 .com better suited for a mainstream project like this.

http://trybtc.com/

I'd love to provide this type of service on vericoins.com

Anyone with technical, or design capabilities interested in teaming up for a project like this could contact me.

Interesting idea!.

Don't got as much time for these as I would like. This would be something I would try to develop if I had time to focus on this.

I just decided recently to go a different approach to a business. As much as I love VeriCoin! I have bigger plans for my personal endeavors, which can include VeriCoin, and scale at incredible amounts within my capabilities. So I am excited to be on this new path, and grateful to all those who helped me attain a proper vision!

We will not be launching our website for a while until a proper team is created and venture capital is raised. But lets just say that VirtualCurrencyCollege.com courses are being developed now in thought and theory as to where we think the bitcoin / virtual currency industry is going. If anyone with extremely high levels of talent thinks they can add value to this project please PM me.

[buy4crypto]

Some of you might appreciate the irony. That a highschool drop out will make college level courses for Virtual Currencies.

My buddy is a MBA, and his father was DEAN of a SUNY college in the area. Lucky to have such great connections when It comes to this. We will see where it goes. Anyone who can provide a professional website for us could be lucarative depending on the deal you want. IE, cash up front, and no skin in game, or part of the company. I am up for anything. I prefer to give people a part of company, as I think they will work harder for a % than a base pay.



Sorry to get sidetracked and dereail a vericoin thread with my ramblings, lol. Carry on  

[KryptoKings]

Some of you might appreciate the irony. That a highschool drop out will make college level courses for Virtual Currencies.

I almost dropped out of high school. I am sure you had good reason but lack of knowledge was not one of them.

[Wreathy]

Some of you might appreciate the irony. That a highschool drop out will make college level courses for Virtual Currencies.

Not at all, been many a self made rich person that did not finish school.

[barabbas]

Oh hey the price is going up.  Did Barabbas mention vericoin world day or something??  LOL

Uuh? Going up? I must have missed that "60 Minutes" but it looks to me at exactly the same price it was last night when I went to sleep... now, compared to the lows of the weekend, long weekend, it is up what, 5%? Stop the presses because such a move never, ever happens in crypto.

But I am quite sure the cause of this "surge" resides in the constant activities of the dev team and the few vocal active cheerleaders such as you, as well as the rumors of yet another Nosker-hosted Hangout spectacular. By all means, continue bringing in the dough...

[xtent]

Anyone else seen this website? I think VeriCoin could benefit from this type of website. Simple, and straight forward. Get people from point a to point b. You could even put this in the wallet, which would be about as user friendly as you could be. I would love to host this service. It would be easily done, and viewed on my website I will use for this project. You will not find 1 .com better suited for a mainstream project like this.

http://trybtc.com/

I'd love to provide this type of service on vericoins.com

Anyone with technical, or design capabilities interested in teaming up for a project like this could contact me.

Interesting idea!.

Don't got as much time for these as I would like. This would be something I would try to develop if I had time to focus on this.

I just decided recently to go a different approach to a business. As much as I love VeriCoin! I have bigger plans for my personal endeavors, which can include VeriCoin, and scale at incredible amounts within my capabilities. So I am excited to be on this new path, and grateful to all those who helped me attain a proper vision!

We will not be launching our website for a while until a proper team is created and venture capital is raised. But lets just say that VirtualCurrencyCollege.com courses are being developed now in thought and theory as to where we think the bitcoin / virtual currency industry is going. If anyone with extremely high levels of talent thinks they can add value to this project please PM me.

Could you provide a list of what kind of courses you are looking to include?
I have not put myself out there yet or offered services, I work for one of the biggest telecommunication companies in the world.
If Android based courses are needed, I may be able to help.

[Isokoira]

Oh hey the price is going up.  Did Barabbas mention vericoin world day or something??  LOL

Uuh? Going up? I must have missed that "60 Minutes" but it looks to me at exactly the same price it was last night when I went to sleep... now, compared to the lows of the weekend, long weekend, it is up what, 5%? Stop the presses because such a move never, ever happens in crypto.

But I am quite sure the cause of this "surge" resides in the constant activities of the dev team and the few vocal active cheerleaders such as you, as well as the rumors of yet another Nosker-hosted Hangout spectacular. By all means, continue bringing in the dough...

Yeehaw, yeah I'm a cheerleader.  Not so eloquent as you though and not nearly as active.  Thankfully I do have a life.  Oh I'm sorry do I sound deranged too?