NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[cryptohunter]

been away a while


1/ so if you have these three things

the account address
the public key
the private key

you can claim you stake? and you have to do this by the 30th of this month? or do you have as long as you need as long as you already have those 3 bits of info above?

2/ also after installing nem and importing your nem stake into the wallet are there some new instructions on how to back it up since it says the current back up instructions do not work with nem right now?

Don't want to import my nem and the laptop breaks and i've lost it all and can't backup.

thanks

If you have those 3 things the XEM are already in your account so no need to wait.
You can either make a copy of the wallet file or just keep your private-key for now as you can re-import that as often as you want to new wallets.

thanks for info.

[mixmaster]

Please check
- the tutorials: http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/
- the FAQs: http://nem.io/faq.html
- the forum: https://forum.ournem.com/

A lot of issues/questions are already answered many times.

If you still can't find an answer/solution, contact the NEM support: http://support.ournem.com/

[Deviant1]

LMFAO!

Sadly this is indeed the attitude of many people here.

[pabloangello]

Don't think so that banks seeing NEM will make us rich ...
What is your reasoning?

[Deviant1]

Don't think so that banks seeing NEM will make us rich ...
What is your reasoning?

I think he was trying to say it is hypocritical. Many in the cryptocommunity like to dwell on the "fairness" of whatever coin they are holding but in reality they couldn't care less about what's fair. Everyone is in it for personal gain.

[pabloangello]

Don't think so that banks seeing NEM will make us rich ...
What is your reasoning?

I think he was trying to say it is hypocritical. Many in the cryptocommunity like to dwell on the "fairness" of whatever coin they are holding but in reality they couldn't care less about what's fair. Everyone is in it for personal gain.

Yeah, most people on Earth don't give a f@(k what is behind payment system they are using, visa, mastercard, cash. Only thing they care is: it should be fast, handy and possible to use in shop/market.

[Thingamajig]

Don't think so that banks seeing NEM will make us rich ...
What is your reasoning?

I think he was trying to say it is hypocritical. Many in the cryptocommunity like to dwell on the "fairness" of whatever coin they are holding but in reality they couldn't care less about what's fair. Everyone is in it for personal gain.

True. Doesn't mean to say fair distribution isn't a massive priority on the release of a new coin though - in fact it's absolutely, 100% necessary. (Even though as time passes, the fairness of distribution will mean nothing once wealthy people start to accumulate large sums)

It is not however a means to an end. You're right in that people are mostly in the crypto markets for personal financial gain - they're also into it for less then legal reasons, money laundering, illicit trade. As much as i don't want to say it; this is reflected upon bitcoins rise to dominance (And the popularity of anon coins), which was entirely enabled through the deep net and all the nasty trading going on there. (Edit: as described in this article here

Fact of the matter is, not only is a fair distribution massively important in the initial stages of a crypto, but also a crypto that appeals to peoples personal needs is a must too. And whether people here choose to admit it or not, the only real personal need most people want from cryptocurrency is anonymity to enable them to accomplish such underhanded tasks.

I believe this is sadly just how the crypto markets work. Truth is aside from legitimate investors, the real users are those with criminal backgrounds or with ill intent -- this is the current demographic of crypto users in the markets right now.

To prove my point; it's precisely the closure and pursuit of marketplaces like the Silk Road that's what's damaged bitcoins value so drastically (and consequently, all coins). People have lost faith in crypto as a true "anon" platform hence alternative anon coins trying to take the spotlight. And it's working.

[Deviant1]

True. Doesn't mean to say fair distribution isn't a massive priority on the release of a new coin though - in fact it's absolutely, 100% necessary. (Even though as time passes, the fairness of distribution will mean nothing once wealthy people start to accumulate large sums)

It is not however a means to an end. You're right in that people are mostly in the crypto markets for personal financial gain - they're also into it for less then legal reasons, money laundering, illicit trade. As much as i don't want to say it; this is reflected upon bitcoins rise to dominance (And the popularity of anon coins), which was entirely enabled through the deep net and all the nasty trading going on there.

Fact of the matter is, not only is a fair distribution massively important in the initial stages of a crypto, but also a crypto that appeals to peoples personal needs is a must too. And whether people here choose to admit it or not, the only real personal need most people want from cryptocurrency is anonymity to enable them to accomplish such underhanded tasks.

I believe this is sadly just how the crypto markets work. Truth is aside from legitimate investors, the real users are those with criminal backgrounds or with ill intent -- this is the current demographic of crypto users in the markets right now.

Very true Thingamajig! It's a sad state of affairs and I am sure Satoshi has been saddened by how things turned out.

Cryptocurrencies have proven that regardless of the distribution method (POW, POS, airdrops, etc) the end result will always be the same: the majority of wealth ends up in the hands of a few.

[Thingamajig]

True. Doesn't mean to say fair distribution isn't a massive priority on the release of a new coin though - in fact it's absolutely, 100% necessary. (Even though as time passes, the fairness of distribution will mean nothing once wealthy people start to accumulate large sums)

It is not however a means to an end. You're right in that people are mostly in the crypto markets for personal financial gain - they're also into it for less then legal reasons, money laundering, illicit trade. As much as i don't want to say it; this is reflected upon bitcoins rise to dominance (And the popularity of anon coins), which was entirely enabled through the deep net and all the nasty trading going on there.

Fact of the matter is, not only is a fair distribution massively important in the initial stages of a crypto, but also a crypto that appeals to peoples personal needs is a must too. And whether people here choose to admit it or not, the only real personal need most people want from cryptocurrency is anonymity to enable them to accomplish such underhanded tasks.

I believe this is sadly just how the crypto markets work. Truth is aside from legitimate investors, the real users are those with criminal backgrounds or with ill intent -- this is the current demographic of crypto users in the markets right now.

Very true Thingamajig! It's a sad state of affairs and I am sure Satoshi has been saddened by how things turned out.

Cryptocurrencies have proven that regardless of the distribution method (POW, POS, airdrops, etc) the end result will always be the same: the majority of wealth ends up in the hands of a few.

This is simple economics though really. You'll never have a "equal" financial system. FIAT right now is largely consolidated in the hands of a few. It's just the inevitable outcome of all systems really.

I'm sure some people reading this might have "communism" niggling at the back of their minds but even that's a joke - it preaches equality but in truth it simply makes everyone equally broke, and those that enforce the rules (ie; Government) are the only wealthy elite through excessive/oppressive taxation (It's why such systems often turn totalitarian).

Fact of the matter is, equality in an unfair world is an impossible endeavor, and if it's something that is strived for, it's got to be done with strict care and moderation (NEM's distribution did this perfectly). anyone who tells you otherwise is probably someone preaching communism when they're the ones working in government office, moneybags at the ready waiting for your cash .

NEM's devs have accomplished a distribution that is nothing short of admirable -- NEM as a platform itself also holds great promise, but i feel unless an understanding is reached of who are currently crypto buyers and what their intents are, it'll struggle to get the momentum to appeal to a wider market. Take a page from Bitcoins history .

Bitcoin too has hit a massive hurdle and is struggling to broaden it's userbase, NEM is the same, just smaller scale.

Wow, look at that!!! NEM now has paper wallets.  Pretty exciting and beautiful.  

.......

Fantastic stuff ^^. Really is exciting seeing things progress.

[mill0601]

True. Doesn't mean to say fair distribution isn't a massive priority on the release of a new coin though - in fact it's absolutely, 100% necessary. (Even though as time passes, the fairness of distribution will mean nothing once wealthy people start to accumulate large sums)

It is not however a means to an end. You're right in that people are mostly in the crypto markets for personal financial gain - they're also into it for less then legal reasons, money laundering, illicit trade. As much as i don't want to say it; this is reflected upon bitcoins rise to dominance (And the popularity of anon coins), which was entirely enabled through the deep net and all the nasty trading going on there.

Fact of the matter is, not only is a fair distribution massively important in the initial stages of a crypto, but also a crypto that appeals to peoples personal needs is a must too. And whether people here choose to admit it or not, the only real personal need most people want from cryptocurrency is anonymity to enable them to accomplish such underhanded tasks.

I believe this is sadly just how the crypto markets work. Truth is aside from legitimate investors, the real users are those with criminal backgrounds or with ill intent -- this is the current demographic of crypto users in the markets right now.

Very true Thingamajig! It's a sad state of affairs and I am sure Satoshi has been saddened by how things turned out.

Cryptocurrencies have proven that regardless of the distribution method (POW, POS, airdrops, etc) the end result will always be the same: the majority of wealth ends up in the hands of a few.

This is simple economics though really. You'll never have a "equal" financial system. FIAT right now is largely consolidated in the hands of a few. It's just the inevitable outcome of all systems really.

I'm sure some people reading this might have "communism" niggling at the back of their minds but even that's a joke - it preaches equality but in truth it simply makes everyone equally broke, and those that enforce the rules (ie; Government) are the only wealthy elite through excessive/oppressive taxation (It's why such systems often turn totalitarian).

Fact of the matter is, equality in an unfair world is an impossible endeavor, and if it's something that is strived for, it's got to be done with strict care and moderation (NEM's distribution did this perfectly). anyone who tells you otherwise is probably someone preaching communism when they're the ones working in government office, moneybags at the ready waiting for your cash .

NEM's devs have accomplished a distribution that is nothing short of admirable -- NEM as a platform itself also holds great promise, but i feel unless an understanding is reached of who are currently crypto buyers and what their intents are, it'll struggle to get the momentum to appeal to a wider market. Take a page from Bitcoins history .

Bitcoin too has hit a massive hurdle and is struggling to broaden it's userbase, NEM is the same, just smaller scale.

Wow, look at that!!! NEM now has paper wallets.  Pretty exciting and beautiful.  

.......

Fantastic stuff ^^. Really is exciting seeing things progress.

Agreed, I wanted to see what was going to happen after launch an I am now ready to start investing. Put up a 1 btc buy order to get started.

[ArpFlush]

I can't activate my wallet on Mac!  although I'm quite experienced with crypto's, this one is a mission impossible for me. So my thoughts: please make this more user friendly because no one will use NEM/XEM this way.

Hi,

Yes. We are trying hard to make it as easy as possible and hope to make it perfect in the future.

Hi, there are a couple of common issues. 

1) You definitely need to uninstall any old versions of NEM.  So first uninstall any and all versions you can find.  (Each version will have its own folder in Applications).  And for added measure it is important to on Mac go to Finder, then click "Go" at the top of the screen. Go to Computer, then Macintosh HD, then users, then your user name, and then delete the NEM folder.

Only then after having uninstalled all versions and deleting the NEM folder, should you then try to reinstall.

2) Mac might not allow you to install NEM due to security settings. If this happens, please go to System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Install anyway.

3) In Mac I went to System Preferences → Security & Privacy → Firewall → Firewall options → + → NEM 0.6.xx → wallet → okay. If that still doesn't work in Mac, you may need to turn your Firewall off.

4) It is very important to have the latest version of Java 8 running.

These are all the common sticking points that I can think of with Mac.  I'm assuming you don't have any third party virus scanners or firewalls or things like that because they aren't really needed on Mac. 

Please let us know if it works.

Also..... a tip from a FB comment by Bill Whales. "10.10 Yosemite and up required..."

If your OS is old or those tricks don't work, one last trick is to try the stand alone.  I actually run it half the time on mac anyway just because it is a little more fun.  http://blog.nem.io/mac-installation-guide-standalone/

Thanks for the feedback! I will try as you say, my mac is on the latest update so I'm still positive. 

[ApexEvo]

just to add something to whole debate about fairness and egoism resp. that equality is unreachable... I think it is important to understand that we live in competitive environment, where resources are scare. Life is always adapting to environment, so yeah, we cant have equality of any form in current stage of society. But concept its self might be realistic under different conditions, but then again that would create another kind of problems we would have to deal with. In the end it comes down to priorities of people.

Is more important that little kid in Africa will survive this day, or that you will have a chance to obtain lambo? Right now world chose the second.

edit: the paper wallets are very nice. Good job!

[jabo38]

I can't activate my wallet on Mac!  although I'm quite experienced with crypto's, this one is a mission impossible for me. So my thoughts: please make this more user friendly because no one will use NEM/XEM this way.

Hi,

Yes. We are trying hard to make it as easy as possible and hope to make it perfect in the future.

Hi, there are a couple of common issues. 

1) You definitely need to uninstall any old versions of NEM.  So first uninstall any and all versions you can find.  (Each version will have its own folder in Applications).  And for added measure it is important to on Mac go to Finder, then click "Go" at the top of the screen. Go to Computer, then Macintosh HD, then users, then your user name, and then delete the NEM folder.

Only then after having uninstalled all versions and deleting the NEM folder, should you then try to reinstall.

2) Mac might not allow you to install NEM due to security settings. If this happens, please go to System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Install anyway.

3) In Mac I went to System Preferences → Security & Privacy → Firewall → Firewall options → + → NEM 0.6.xx → wallet → okay. If that still doesn't work in Mac, you may need to turn your Firewall off.

4) It is very important to have the latest version of Java 8 running.

These are all the common sticking points that I can think of with Mac.  I'm assuming you don't have any third party virus scanners or firewalls or things like that because they aren't really needed on Mac. 

Please let us know if it works.

Also..... a tip from a FB comment by Bill Whales. "10.10 Yosemite and up required..."

If your OS is old or those tricks don't work, one last trick is to try the stand alone.  I actually run it half the time on mac anyway just because it is a little more fun.  http://blog.nem.io/mac-installation-guide-standalone/

Thanks for the feedback! I will try as you say, my mac is on the latest update so I'm still positive. 

Yes. Please keep us updated and if you have any other questions I can help you with, just ask. :-)

[Thingamajig]

Sorta funny really that after everything i've said, we see an article crop up pretty much saying what i just said:

http://news.yahoo.com/deals-dark-helped-bitcoin-off-says-chief-scientist-095010748--sector.html

(Updated my previous posts to include this link)

just to add something to whole debate about fairness and egoism resp. that equality is unreachable... I think it is important to understand that we live in competitive environment, where resources are scare. Life is always adapting to environment, so yeah, we cant have equality of any form in current stage of society. But concept its self might be realistic under different conditions, but then again that would create another kind of problems we would have to deal with. In the end it comes down to priorities of people.

Is more important that little kid in Africa will survive this day, or that you will have a chance to obtain lambo? Right now world chose the second.

edit: the paper wallets are very nice. Good job!

Indeed. I never meant to imply equality is bad - as i said in my posts, striving for equality is something that should be done with caution and care. It's good to pursue fairness, just do so mindfully.

Sorta reminds me of the entire regulation debate; Some people saying no regulation is good, where'as i'm of the mind who takes the middle ground. Regulation is a necessity, but regulation also has to be strictly regulated  (A problem we see in the FIAT world today, where excessive regulation is a serious, stifling issue). Too much regulation is as destructive as none; it enables criminals and fraudsters, and ruins honest businesses and individuals who try to comply.

[tyz]

Wow, look at that!!! NEM now has paper wallets.  Pretty exciting and beautiful.  

.......

Sorry but this is really old style. NEM should focus on fancy new stuff and not on paper vouchers or stuff like that 

[Kolbas]

My belief is that the success of NEM lies in the main idea that NEM is a movement. If you're trying to find the way in economy and finance, then NEM isn't much more interesting than other new systems with features: Ethereum, NXT, NODE, Bitbay, Qora. But remember Doge, just another Bitcoin fork! It became popular because of fun, memo...
I think NEM should keen on something political, more ideology. Something about society, history, progress, freedom. Maybe get in touch with some pirate and internet parties, anarchy movements... Something like that.

[ApexEvo]

My belief is that the success of NEM lies in the main idea that NEM is a movement. If you're trying to find the way in economy and finance, then NEM isn't much more interesting than other new systems with features: Ethereum, NXT, NODE, Bitbay, Qora. But remember Doge, just another Bitcoin fork! It became popular because of fun, memo...
I think NEM should keen on something political, more ideology. Something about society, history, progress, freedom. Maybe get in touch with some pirate and internet parties, anarchy movements... Something like that.

Yeah that is a good idea... we shouldnt really promote NEM as altcoin, but promote us as community of people that stand for certain ideals and optimal would be if our promotion would be real actions. There should be team of people really active on the internet, doing work, worth attention. Not really pay media to write about us as others do.

partnership with movements that stand for same ideals is very good idea. We could also sponsor their initiatives etc., make them part of NEM. But we have to become real about our goals. Lets write NEM manifesto

[Sparky_eMunie]

Cryptoland is funny when it comes to price analysis  

1. before launch: coin x is gonna be great! Gamechanger!  To the moon and especially beyond bitcoin.
2. at launch: hodl! No one's gonna dump price will go boom
3. at first dump (1 hour after 2.): dump is good!  Coin x at cheap prices!
4. at 5% rebounce: see!  Coin x is gonna hit #2 on coinmarketcap within days!
5. day after & 20% lower: weak hands are dumping, cheap coins!
6. several weeks later at ridicously low prices: this coin is for the long run, not for speculation.  We have a great community and the best devs!
...
7. coin x gets removed from some shady exchange with a trillion other coins waiting the same destiny.


Not saying this is the case for XEM but evey single price speculation post/thread looks alike.

About every new coins release in the last months looks like this!

[mickyd]

My belief is that the success of NEM lies in the main idea that NEM is a movement. If you're trying to find the way in economy and finance, then NEM isn't much more interesting than other new systems with features: Ethereum, NXT, NODE, Bitbay, Qora. But remember Doge, just another Bitcoin fork! It became popular because of fun, memo...
I think NEM should keen on something political, more ideology. Something about society, history, progress, freedom. Maybe get in touch with some pirate and internet parties, anarchy movements... Something like that.

you are absolutely right!!!!!

[Thingamajig]

My belief is that the success of NEM lies in the main idea that NEM is a movement. If you're trying to find the way in economy and finance, then NEM isn't much more interesting than other new systems with features: Ethereum, NXT, NODE, Bitbay, Qora. But remember Doge, just another Bitcoin fork! It became popular because of fun, memo...
I think NEM should keen on something political, more ideology. Something about society, history, progress, freedom. Maybe get in touch with some pirate and internet parties, anarchy movements... Something like that.

Although i completely agree, you're really opening up a can of worms here - especially with any political affiliation. (Pretty sure this was already discussed back on the Nemforums)

With the controversy surrounding political ideals this is something that could end terribly. I think nem needs to distance itself from anything political and focus primarily on the "sound money" aspect.

With this in mind though, there are a few and far between politicians that understand the importance of sound, honest money and the ramifications should it not be so. Ron Paul is certainly the one i know comes to most peoples minds. Especially in the Crypto sphere.

Case in point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3SOlXxUBLk