[ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★

[timmyd]

For anybody who is interested and cant see why via is better at doing what counterparty should do. check the block explorer for counterparty and notice the times between blocks. when you are p2p trading these block times need to be fast so orders match and assets exchange quickly. While your waiting for counterparty you could have missed a better price or worse price.



http://blockscan.com/tx.aspx?p=1

[Liquid71]

For anybody who is interested and cant see why via is better at doing what counterparty should do. check the block explorer for counterparty and notice the times between blocks. when you are p2p trading these block times need to be fast so orders match and assets exchange quickly. While your waiting for counterparty you could have missed a better price or worse price.



http://blockscan.com/tx.aspx?p=1

I agree Viacoin is vastly superior, my only fear is as block rewards continue to go down the risk of a 51% attack increases. It seems to me that merged mining would secure the blockchain better. If I'm wrong about the current risk to the network please correct me. I own some Via but would love to buy more because I believe in it's potential, just haven't pulled the trigger because I don't understand how the network will operate securely in the future.

[illiki23]

I think Clearinghouse and Clearwallet have inherited the same technical issues the Counterparty and Counterwallet have been having.  (since it is ultimately a clone)

Almost impossible to get orders to go through,  bugs and errors during placing of orders.

Was this an oversight?  Didn't they realize how buggy counterwallet is? (or whatever version this was cloned using)

[compumine]

Would 100 via to burn for xch be too much?

[PilotofBTC]

Would 100 via to burn for xch be too much?

I did 200. But, I don't have much Via. My ICO investment was less than 1 BTC. So, I'm a minnow.

[compumine]

there is someone with almost 4TH on xhash.net !!!  would that be another pool?

[CryptoClub]

so the pump and dump also is coming to an end for VIA?
It's so sad to see that the hole altcoin scene to be controlled by these a few p&d insider groups. Development and technologies don't even matter in the altcoin scene. The only thing people want to see is fast profits. This is not an investment Market, this is pure manipulation and greed.

The problem is VIA don't have any development and technologies, it's pure copycat from other coins. ClearingHouse/clearwallet is pure copycat of Cloaktrade idea. Tree chains is copy cat of blockchain(coinjoin,darkwallet..). Another problem, no one would create application for Tree chains as they will creating their own scam coin or tree chains. VIA don't even have the anonymous hype.

You keep posting this. I've read this from you few times already.  I'm not technologically inclined and I'm trying to understand.  I know that via has a team, people's names and I can see their profiles and read about them and see videos of them.

Who is behind cloak?

"The Dagger" - Newbie anon dev... They have almost a 100% failure rate over a few months, as they have no rep to worry about, and it is more profitable to just leave people to struggle, "bag holders."

If devs cant use their real Bitcointalk.org ID they are likely hiding their past scams or failures, so people are fools to trust them beyond the PnD. Cloak did go on for some time with development, but, so did Sharecoin and Sharecoinexchange. As for some newbie anon scam dev using one of his IDs to FUD, do the opposite of whatever they suggest.

I have read some posts by one of their real identities - and they even say not to trust newbie anon devs! (Darkcash scammer out of Santa Cruz)

BTCdrak and Peter Todd and his team are reliable. (Peter Todd is pretty much legendary)

[MuffinMaster]

For anybody who is interested and cant see why via is better at doing what counterparty should do. check the block explorer for counterparty and notice the times between blocks. when you are p2p trading these block times need to be fast so orders match and assets exchange quickly. While your waiting for counterparty you could have missed a better price or worse price.



http://blockscan.com/tx.aspx?p=1

I agree Viacoin is vastly superior, my only fear is as block rewards continue to go down the risk of a 51% attack increases. It seems to me that merged mining would secure the blockchain better. If I'm wrong about the current risk to the network please correct me. I own some Via but would love to buy more because I believe in it's potential, just haven't pulled the trigger because I don't understand how the network will operate securely in the future.

its really not a big concern for scrypt/alt based coins. It sort can, but it gets orders of magnitude harder then bitcoin's 51% chances

[Celani10]

Hmmm somone trying to buy in low's 40...


You can see that for two reasons:

1- It already went to 40k two times with big dumps and after the two dumps another buy walls popped up to buy more.

2- Can you see that someone stacked sell orders at 455-46k? Like 2k sells togethers to make sell volume... after 46k you can see it goes straight to 51k where there's two 5 btc sell orders to make the depth look a worse. After this sells too it goes straight up with barely no sell orders.

So when they pull out the 455k sells or someone buys it, it goes straigh to 50k.



I bet with anyone that soon or in the coming days this walls will just me removed and it will go up... remember we have some BIG whales on VIA... during the dump yesterday a 80 btc buy order was flashing around 45k


Edit.: hahaha you can see that the 5 btc sell order at 53k went out of the order book because someone is placing small amount sells at 45's... So he placed it at 51 to fake the order book looks bad

[sherbyspark]

Would 100 via to burn for xch be too much?

What do you mean by burning 100 Via for XCH?

[Crypto_Shark]

Hmmm somone trying to buy in low's 40...


You can see that for two reasons:

1- It already went to 40k two times with big dumps and after the two dumps another buy walls popped up to buy more.

2- Can you see that someone stacked sell orders at 455-46k? Like 2k sells togethers to make sell volume... after 46k you can see it goes straight to 51k where there's two 5 btc sell orders to make the depth look a worse. After this sells too it goes straight up with barely no sell orders.

So when they pull out the 455k sells or someone buys it, it goes straigh to 50k.



I bet with anyone that soon or in the coming days this walls will just me removed and it will go up... remember we have some BIG whales on VIA... during the dump yesterday a 80 btc buy order was flashing around 45k


Edit.: hahaha you can see that the 5 btc sell order at 53k went out of the order book because someone is placing small amount sells at 45's... So he placed it at 51 to fake the order book looks bad

What a well executed shakeout.

[PilotofBTC]

Would 100 via to burn for xch be too much?

What do you mean by burning 100 Via for XCH?

http://blog.viacoin.org/2014/08/11/1-clearinghouse.html

[Celani10]

Hmmm somone trying to buy in low's 40...


You can see that for two reasons:

1- It already went to 40k two times with big dumps and after the two dumps another buy walls popped up to buy more.

2- Can you see that someone stacked sell orders at 455-46k? Like 2k sells togethers to make sell volume... after 46k you can see it goes straight to 51k where there's two 5 btc sell orders to make the depth look a worse. After this sells too it goes straight up with barely no sell orders.

So when they pull out the 455k sells or someone buys it, it goes straigh to 50k.



I bet with anyone that soon or in the coming days this walls will just me removed and it will go up... remember we have some BIG whales on VIA... during the dump yesterday a 80 btc buy order was flashing around 45k


Edit.: hahaha you can see that the 5 btc sell order at 53k went out of the order book because someone is placing small amount sells at 45's... So he placed it at 51 to fake the order book looks bad

What a well executed shakeout.

Lol someone is cleary taking advantage of the low volume now...

You can see someone just sold 4 btc to that 8 btc buy order at 40.4k and it is still there

People are just blind/dumb to not see it

[Honeycutt22]

Sorry - What's going on with it? I'm new to the markets so people manipulating it would likely be something I wouldn't notice...

can someone dummy it down as to what might be happening?

[Crypto_Shark]

Hmmm somone trying to buy in low's 40...


You can see that for two reasons:

1- It already went to 40k two times with big dumps and after the two dumps another buy walls popped up to buy more.

2- Can you see that someone stacked sell orders at 455-46k? Like 2k sells togethers to make sell volume... after 46k you can see it goes straight to 51k where there's two 5 btc sell orders to make the depth look a worse. After this sells too it goes straight up with barely no sell orders.

So when they pull out the 455k sells or someone buys it, it goes straigh to 50k.



I bet with anyone that soon or in the coming days this walls will just me removed and it will go up... remember we have some BIG whales on VIA... during the dump yesterday a 80 btc buy order was flashing around 45k


Edit.: hahaha you can see that the 5 btc sell order at 53k went out of the order book because someone is placing small amount sells at 45's... So he placed it at 51 to fake the order book looks bad

What a well executed shakeout.

Lol someone is cleary taking advantage of the low volume now...

You can see someone just sold 4 btc to that 8 btc buy order at 40.4k and it is still there

People are just blind/dumb to not see it

I'm not giving my coins away.

[Honeycutt22]

Guys, be careful with XCH, you might be feeding the dump by giving your VIA to the dev
https://i.imgur.com/kZ3tIlZ.png

How u know that was the dev?

Supposedly the "burnt" via would be used as rewards and bonuses. Not sold.

[compumine]

yes please, let me know too how you think it's the dev? 

[ZacharyComstock]

yes please, let me know too how you think it's the dev? 

who else could it be? such a large amount dump is likely to be the dev

[kelvng105]

yes please, let me know too how you think it's the dev?  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=734674.msg8300530#msg8300530

Q: What happens to the viacoins that I do burn in exchange for XCH?
A: They go to fund future development of ClearingHouse.

So 600 BTC from the IPO was not enough, now he needs more funds.
For 3 days the dev already "collected" around 185 BTC (assuming he sold his 0.37m VIA at the average price of 50k)

I feel that viacoin is going to be THE greatest scam altcoin community have seen so far
Very interesting to see how its going to end, but its not going to end good for those who decided to hold VIA 

Well VIA made my investment 10 times more.. yeah.. very good scam... !  LOL

[stormia]

As soon as I saw that VIA was not being burned for XCH- as was implied in the beginning- but rather being given to the dev as another IPO, "since viacoins are new and shiny", I sold most my VIA. If there is going to be this much funding, there needs to be more transparency as to where all the money is going. Anybody know what has been done with the first round of 610 BTC? Can we get a public ledger or something? How about a spending road-map? How much has been spent and on what for everything up until now and how much is anticipated to be needed for future developments?

Still holding enough to make me happy if this does turn into a true "long-term" project, but one thing I have learned in my short time here on BTCtalk is that betting on the "long-term" with anything but BTC itself is generally a poor decision.