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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus  (Read 259100 times)
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October 11, 2015, 07:16:14 PM
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Anonibet taking over 4.5 hours to send a withdrawal:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.1880


Yesterday Cloudbet took over 12.5 hours to send a withdrawal:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.2320
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October 11, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
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Anonibet Still hasnt processed my withdrawal running almost into 6 hours. They clearly state that the withdrawals are processed within two hours. I first made contact with their live customer support about 2 hours ago, and they have a robotic response  "An emergency ticket has been sent to the relevant department. We assure you the withdrawal will be processed", two hours on it seems the so called relevant department has no idea what emergency means or there is no relevant department at all. I think just failing to meet up with these terms that they put on their site should raise alarm. In as much as gambling is by choice, bookmakers should make it easier by processing withdrawals on time otherwise we end up suspecting they are attampting to cheat, the longer a withdrawal holds, the more the temptation to place more bets, the higher the chances of losing the money, my withdrawal order is 16 BTC by the way
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October 11, 2015, 08:49:14 PM
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I'll contact Anonibet. If Anonibet or any other book can't meet the standard limit of 15 minutes for withdrawals, they will be downgraded. Some leeway will be given for large withdrawals.

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October 11, 2015, 09:00:52 PM
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I'll contact Anonibet. If Anonibet or any other book can't meet the standard limit of 15 minutes for withdrawals, they will be downgraded. Some leeway will be given for large withdrawals.
Thank you for that, I can provide you my member ID if need be, i did not expect them to process it in 15 minutes, but now 7 and a half hours is just painful
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October 11, 2015, 09:03:10 PM
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I'll contact Anonibet. If Anonibet or any other book can't meet the standard limit of 15 minutes for withdrawals, they will be downgraded. Some leeway will be given for large withdrawals.
Thank you for that, I can provide you my member ID if need be, i did not expect them to process it in 15 minutes, but now 7 and a half hours is just painful

Yes, that would be helpful. PM that to me and state that I have your permission to look into your account. The first email that I sent them was generic.

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October 11, 2015, 09:04:02 PM
Last edit: October 11, 2015, 09:27:10 PM by Peeps Place
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DirectBet acknowledged receiving my PM and should give us a reply soon concerning their accusation.

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October 12, 2015, 08:34:36 AM
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Its now 19 hours and counting, still nothing in regards to my withdrawal from Anonibet, I am just wondering if its only me or are there any other Anonibet customers affected?
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October 13, 2015, 09:35:49 PM
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Play by play is unique to Bitcoin books.
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Betcoin Sports is very excited to announce beta testing of live play by play action for some LIVE sports wagering options in the LIVE section at Betcoin Sports

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October 14, 2015, 04:13:12 AM
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Play by play is unique to Bitcoin books.
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Betcoin Sports is very excited to announce beta testing of live play by play action for some LIVE sports wagering options in the LIVE section at Betcoin Sports

What's Play by play? I never heard this before, any examples in fiat sportsbooks? Thanks.
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October 14, 2015, 06:19:56 PM
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Play by play is unique to Bitcoin books.
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What's Play by play? I never heard this before, any examples in fiat sportsbooks? Thanks.

I misunderstood it. Using the NFL, I thought it meant that you would be able to bet such things as whether the next play would be a run or pass.

After asking, it's not that but it's still is nice. During a soccer game, the soccer field will be shown and you can see which team is attacking and all the stats of the game will be shown.


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October 16, 2015, 09:24:04 PM
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DirectBet lowered from "C+" to "C"

Player placed two bets on Calgary v Vancouver NHL match on October 8, 2015. One bet was for .04 BTC and another for .2 BTC. The bet for .04 lost and the bet for .2 won.

DirectBet confiscated both bets stating:

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Hi Steve,

Your bet was confiscated because you defrauded our system.

Please note of the following information form our Rules :

https://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

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We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent
activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double
spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that
in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.
"

Best Regards,
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DirectBet was asked how the player defrauded the system. DirectBet wouldn't share how the claimed fraudulent activity occurred with peepsplace or the player.

When there have been claims of abuse against other books, the book has always shared information asked of them. This is the first time that a book refused to share information disputing a claim. There is no choice other than downgrading DirectBet.


DirectBet -  feel free to reply if you would like.

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October 16, 2015, 09:28:09 PM
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DirectBet lowered from "C+" to "C"

Player placed two bets on Calgary v Vancouver NHL match on October 8, 2015. One bet was for .04 BTC and another for .2 BTC. The bet for .04 lost and the bet for .2 won.

DirectBet confiscated both bets stating:

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Hi Steve,

Your bet was confiscated because you defrauded our system.

Please note of the following information form our Rules :

https://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

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We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent
activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double
spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that
in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.
"

Best Regards,
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DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !

DirectBet was asked how the player defrauded the system. DirectBet wouldn't share how the claimed fraudulent activity occurred with peepsplace or the player.

When there have been claims of abuse against other books, the book has always shared information asked of them. This is the first time that a book refused to share information disputing a claim. There is no choice other than downgrading DirectBet.


DirectBet -  feel free to reply if you would like.


What were the 2 bets?


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October 18, 2015, 12:01:53 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2015, 02:56:26 AM by Peeps Place
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DirectBet lowered from "C+" to "C"

Player placed two bets on Calgary v Vancouver NHL match on October 8, 2015. One bet was for .04 BTC and another for .2 BTC. The bet for .04 lost and the bet for .2 won.

DirectBet confiscated both bets stating:

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Hi Steve,

Your bet was confiscated because you defrauded our system.

Please note of the following information form our Rules :

https://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

"
We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent
activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double
spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that
in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.
"

Best Regards,
--
DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !

DirectBet was asked how the player defrauded the system. DirectBet wouldn't share how the claimed fraudulent activity occurred with peepsplace or the player.

When there have been claims of abuse against other books, the book has always shared information asked of them. This is the first time that a book refused to share information disputing a claim. There is no choice other than downgrading DirectBet.


DirectBet -  feel free to reply if you would like.


What were the 2 bets?



I'll let one of the parties post the exact bets if they want.

DirectBet is claiming they were hacked. Not only were winnings confiscated but the deposit, amount wagered, was confiscated. I assume that this was done as a punishment.

No good book will ever confiscate your deposit.

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October 18, 2015, 12:26:53 AM
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I'll look more in depth and update next week.

Is anyone is playing at BetBTC please post experiences.

@Peeps have you got any time to review betbtc during the previous week? What was your opinion?

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October 18, 2015, 02:50:00 AM
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I'll look more in depth and update next week.

Is anyone is playing at BetBTC please post experiences.

@Peeps have you got any time to review betbtc during the previous week? What was your opinion?

Interface is phenomenal and very user friendly. Deposits were credited after 3 confirmations as stated on your site. Withdrawal times on 3 different withdrawals were 2 minutes, 20 minutes and 16 hours.

For the bad, there's very little liquidity even for EPL and NFL. There aren't any NCAA markets. In the NFL a ML is listed but not a spread.

I really like the site and hope that there's more liquidity in the near future.




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October 18, 2015, 05:13:18 AM
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I have had another problem with Anonibet, the game between Golden State Warriors and L.A Lakers was called off with about 2 minutes left to play in the 3rd quarter. I had 2 live bets, one for over 51.5 points in third quarter and the other on Warriors to win the game, when the match was called off, 40 points had been scored but there was still 2 minutes 16 to play, however, Anonibet have refused to void my bet and they say its a loss, even though at the time I placed my bet, the period and odds were designed for a 12 minute period. Their live customer support has been telling me nothing can be done and so on, but this is clearly stiffing of players.
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October 18, 2015, 05:42:41 AM
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I have had another problem with Anonibet, the game between Golden State Warriors and L.A Lakers was called off with about 2 minutes left to play in the 3rd quarter. I had 2 live bets, one for over 51.5 points in third quarter and the other on Warriors to win the game, when the match was called off, 40 points had been scored but there was still 2 minutes 16 to play, however, Anonibet have refused to void my bet and they say its a loss, even though at the time I placed my bet, the period and odds were designed for a 12 minute period. Their live customer support has been telling me nothing can be done and so on, but this is clearly stiffing of players.
Shoot me another PM saying that I can look into this and I'll do it. This one is an easy call.

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October 18, 2015, 10:57:53 AM
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DirectBet lowered from "C+" to "C"

Player placed two bets on Calgary v Vancouver NHL match on October 8, 2015. One bet was for .04 BTC and another for .2 BTC. The bet for .04 lost and the bet for .2 won.

DirectBet confiscated both bets stating:

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Hi Steve,

Your bet was confiscated because you defrauded our system.

Please note of the following information form our Rules :

https://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

"
We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent
activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double
spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that
in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.
"

Best Regards,
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DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !

DirectBet was asked how the player defrauded the system. DirectBet wouldn't share how the claimed fraudulent activity occurred with peepsplace or the player.

When there have been claims of abuse against other books, the book has always shared information asked of them. This is the first time that a book refused to share information disputing a claim. There is no choice other than downgrading DirectBet.


DirectBet -  feel free to reply if you would like.


What were the 2 bets?



I'll let one of the parties post the exact bets if they want.

DirectBet is claiming they were hacked. Not only were winnings confiscated but the deposit, amount wagered, was confiscated. I assume that this was done as a punishment.

No good book will ever confiscate your deposit.

oh my, this is a very serious problem. this will lose a lot of trust in people willing to bet on directbet, i am definitely one of them which will be a bit scare to bet on directbet. but i hope through time i will resume trust. cuz now a lot of betting site, so to me, shifting my bet to other site is quite ok. but some bet is still better in directbet.
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October 18, 2015, 11:08:08 AM
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I'll look more in depth and update next week.

Is anyone is playing at BetBTC please post experiences.

@Peeps have you got any time to review betbtc during the previous week? What was your opinion?

Interface is phenomenal and very user friendly. Deposits were credited after 3 confirmations as stated on your site. Withdrawal times on 3 different withdrawals were 2 minutes, 20 minutes and 16 hours.

For the bad, there's very little liquidity even for EPL and NFL. There aren't any NCAA markets. In the NFL a ML is listed but not a spread.

I really like the site and hope that there's more liquidity in the near future.


We strive to improve BetBTC everyday. There are still things that can be better, however your D rank is unfair at the moment especially if we take in consideration that there are many books out there with settlement and withdrawal problems with C and B ranks.

All liquidity is placed by our users. We can't be liable if league x or event y "is listed but not a spread", our action towards this is only improving and promoting betbtc so that more people get in and this empty markets don't exist anymore on the future.

What we should be ranked for is about how our platform is solid and secure, how our deposits are credited in time, how our withdrawals are credited in time, how you can make a trading exactly like you do on betfair (cutting liabilities like no other do), how our events are settled in time, how we haven't lost a satoshi in more than 1 year, how we haven't had any complaint in more than 1 year, etc..

About the lack of leagues just one word, we could deploy all leagues and matches on the platform, we pay for all that already. The point is that we prefer to have only the majors for now so that the liquidity could be more concentrated. Maybe on the future if we think it will be positive we could get them back in (as we already had on the beginning).

Cheers


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October 18, 2015, 12:08:11 PM
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DirectBet lowered from "C+" to "C"

Player placed two bets on Calgary v Vancouver NHL match on October 8, 2015. One bet was for .04 BTC and another for .2 BTC. The bet for .04 lost and the bet for .2 won.

DirectBet confiscated both bets stating:

Quote
Hi Steve,

Your bet was confiscated because you defrauded our system.

Please note of the following information form our Rules :

https://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml

"
We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent
activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double
spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that
in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.
"

Best Regards,
--
DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !

DirectBet was asked how the player defrauded the system. DirectBet wouldn't share how the claimed fraudulent activity occurred with peepsplace or the player.

When there have been claims of abuse against other books, the book has always shared information asked of them. This is the first time that a book refused to share information disputing a claim. There is no choice other than downgrading DirectBet.


DirectBet -  feel free to reply if you would like.


What were the 2 bets?




The confiscated winning bet was 0.2 BTC @ 1.41 on Vancouver. The losing bet was 0.04 BTC @ 6.2 on Calgary

I told DirectBet that this thread will never be used to extort or strong arm a book.

The amount is irrelevant. A book should never confiscate your funds. DirectBet has given no reason other than a hack and no proof has been provided.

For the above reasons, not only should the amount wagered be refunded but the winnings should be paid.

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