[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[GlobalDenomination]

is that what should appear in screen when i run server


Initializing Burst server version 1.0.0
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.enableStackTraces = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.enableLogTraceback = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: logging enabled
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbCacheKB = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.isTestnet = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbUrl = "jdbc:h2:burst_db/burst;DB_CLOSE_ON_EXIT=F
ALSE"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.maxDbConnections = "10"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbLoginTimeout = "70"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbDefaultLockTimeout = "10"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Database update may take a while if needed, current db
 version 51...
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.forceValidate = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.myPlatform = "PC"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.myAddress not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerPort = "8123"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.shareMyAddress = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.myHallmark not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.wellKnownPeers = "162.243.75.149; 178.62.17.193"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.knownBlacklistedPeers not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.maxNumberOfConnectedPublicPeers = "20"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.connectTimeout = "4000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.readTimeout = "8000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enableHallmarkProtection = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.pushThreshold = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.pullThreshold = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.blacklistingPeriod = "600000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.communicationLoggingMask = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.sendToPeersLimit = "10"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.usePeersDb = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.savePeers = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerHost = "0.0.0.0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerIdleTimeout = "30000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enablePeerServerDoSFilter = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerDoSFilter.maxRequestsPerSec = "30"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerDoSFilter.delayMs = "1000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerDoSFilter.maxRequestMs = "300000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.allowedBotHosts = "127.0.0.1; localhost; [0:0:0:0:
0:0:0:1];"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enableAPIServer = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerPort = "8125"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerHost = "127.0.0.1"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiSSL = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerIdleTimeout = "30000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiResourceBase = "html/ui"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.javadocResourceBase = "html/doc"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerCORS = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.allowedUserHosts = "127.0.0.1; localhost; [0:0:0:0
:0:0:0:1];"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enableUIServer = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: User interface server not enabled
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceQuote = """
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceSeparator = "   "
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugLogUnconfirmed = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceAccounts not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceLog = "nxt-trace.csv"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Genesis block already in database
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Scanning blockchain...
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: processed block 0
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: ...done
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:8123
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:8125
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Burst server 1.0.0 started successfully.
2014-08-11 17:08:18 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true"

yes

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[uray]

{"result":"deadline: 123456..."}
Does anyone know how that number is assigned?

that number is a deadline in seconds, if no one has better deadline than you (block found occured before ur deadline reached), then u create the block

Thanks.

The lowest deadline i had was 2068, does that mean that i have no chance to find a block? (almost 6 hours of mining.)
Or is the deadline random generated?

i am not a dev here, but i think it is yes you dont have "huge" chance to announce block for current block, based on average blocktime is under 2000 seconds, but there is still a chance that no miner has lower deadline than ur 2068 seconds, if this is occured then blocktime is 2068 seconds, the difficulty will adjust lower for next block

[JhoniOne]

hi all !why in the settings
"_0_8191_500" Processes comes to end 8191 and saves the file ,
and when "_8192_16383_500" processes are not preserved, when manually closing the file in the future can not be read  

[Sy]

{"result":"deadline: 123456..."}
Does anyone know how that number is assigned?

that number is a deadline in seconds, if no one has better deadline than you (block found occured before ur deadline reached), then u create the block

Thanks.

The lowest deadline i had was 2068, does that mean that i have no chance to find a block? (almost 6 hours of mining.)
Or is the deadline random generated?

Is it really seconds? Because as my previous poster said, the numbers are way too high, my lowest one being around 20k

[uray]

{"result":"deadline: 123456..."}
Does anyone know how that number is assigned?

that number is a deadline in seconds, if no one has better deadline than you (block found occured before ur deadline reached), then u create the block

Thanks.

The lowest deadline i had was 2068, does that mean that i have no chance to find a block? (almost 6 hours of mining.)
Or is the deadline random generated?

Is it really seconds? Because as my previous poster said, the numbers are way too high, my lowest one being around 20k

quoted from OP post, on "How it works" section

..The resulting number is a number of seconds. If that many seconds passes since the last block without a new one, the address/nonce combination used to generate that plot/scoop is eligable to announce a new block....

[HunterS]

is that what should appear in screen when i run server


Initializing Burst server version 1.0.0
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.enableStackTraces = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.enableLogTraceback = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: logging enabled
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbCacheKB = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.isTestnet = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbUrl = "jdbc:h2:burst_db/burst;DB_CLOSE_ON_EXIT=F
ALSE"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.maxDbConnections = "10"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbLoginTimeout = "70"
2014-08-11 17:08:01 INFO: nxt.dbDefaultLockTimeout = "10"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Database update may take a while if needed, current db
 version 51...
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.forceValidate = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.myPlatform = "PC"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.myAddress not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerPort = "8123"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.shareMyAddress = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.myHallmark not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.wellKnownPeers = "162.243.75.149; 178.62.17.193"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.knownBlacklistedPeers not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.maxNumberOfConnectedPublicPeers = "20"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.connectTimeout = "4000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.readTimeout = "8000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enableHallmarkProtection = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.pushThreshold = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.pullThreshold = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.blacklistingPeriod = "600000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.communicationLoggingMask = "0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.sendToPeersLimit = "10"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.usePeersDb = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.savePeers = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerHost = "0.0.0.0"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerIdleTimeout = "30000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enablePeerServerDoSFilter = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerDoSFilter.maxRequestsPerSec = "30"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerDoSFilter.delayMs = "1000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.peerServerDoSFilter.maxRequestMs = "300000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.allowedBotHosts = "127.0.0.1; localhost; [0:0:0:0:
0:0:0:1];"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enableAPIServer = "true"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerPort = "8125"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerHost = "127.0.0.1"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiSSL = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerIdleTimeout = "30000"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiResourceBase = "html/ui"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.javadocResourceBase = "html/doc"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.apiServerCORS = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.allowedUserHosts = "127.0.0.1; localhost; [0:0:0:0
:0:0:0:1];"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.enableUIServer = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: User interface server not enabled
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceQuote = """
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceSeparator = "   "
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugLogUnconfirmed = "false"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceAccounts not defined
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: nxt.debugTraceLog = "nxt-trace.csv"
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Genesis block already in database
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Scanning blockchain...
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: processed block 0
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: ...done
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:8123
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:8125
2014-08-11 17:08:04 INFO: Burst server 1.0.0 started successfully.
2014-08-11 17:08:18 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true"

yes

and the proccess blocks is 0 cause i havent found block yet.is this correct?

[HunterMinerCrafter]

I did a few skims over the source today, a diff against NXT and a quick glance over all of the classes in the crypto library.  No hidden surprises in the wallet, no obviously blatent bugs/oversights, no shenanigans with hidden pre-mines etc.  This means the only argument someone could make to yell "SCAM" with would be the dev pre-generating some huge plot.  I think this is not so unfair at all, and would be hard to call scammy.

Overall an excellent launch.  Kudos to the dev(s)!

To be sure, I deleted all of jars, downloaded dependencies manually, and built from source on both linux and windows under cygwin.  Building on windows took some fiddling with classpath, but otherwise went fine.

I've generated a few GB of plot and am mining, but no blocks yet.  I'm assuming by now that some people already have huuuuge plots.

I think the mining process could be optimized a lot, but I personally don't have much time to put toward it and don't want to have to either trudge through java land or do a new implementation...  Maybe later.

I think this is a great concept and has a lot of promise to move blockchain technologies forward, but I worry about the economics of the coin.  It is hard to value "empty storage space over time" in a meaningful way.  It is pretty easy to quantify your availability of electric capacity under traditional PoW, as energy costs are fairly fixed.  Storage space is not very scarce, and it's costs (at large scales, anyway) are somewhat variable.

[Varitaz]

Hi. I have a problem here.
The plot generator got stuck in the middle of work (nonce 40000).
Now I have in the plots dir the file adr_0_81920, but it is only 10gb rather than 20gb.

How should I act now?
continue from 81921 or 40000?

If I am not mistaken, you can simply rename the file into adr_0_40000, and edit the run_generate.bat into something like "java -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate YOURADDHERE 40000 <any number larger than 40000> 500 7", and continue to run. A new plot file will be created with the range 40000 to any number you wish.

[uray]

I did a few skims over the source today, a diff against NXT and a quick glance over all of the classes in the crypto library.  No hidden surprises in the wallet, no obviously blatent bugs/oversights, no shenanigans with hidden pre-mines etc.  This means the only argument someone could make to yell "SCAM" with would be the dev pre-generating some huge plot.  I think this is not so unfair at all, and would be hard to call scammy.

Overall an excellent launch.  Kudos to the dev(s)!

To be sure, I deleted all of jars, downloaded dependencies manually, and built from source on both linux and windows under cygwin.  Building on windows took some fiddling with classpath, but otherwise went fine.

I've generated a few GB of plot and am mining, but no blocks yet.  I'm assuming by now that some people already have huuuuge plots.

I think the mining process could be optimized a lot, but I personally don't have much time to put toward it and don't want to have to either trudge through java land or do a new implementation...  Maybe later.

I think this is a great concept and has a lot of promise to move blockchain technologies forward, but I worry about the economics of the coin.  It is hard to value "empty storage space over time" in a meaningful way.  It is pretty easy to quantify your availability of electric capacity under traditional PoW, as energy costs are fairly fixed.  Storage space is not very scarce, and it's costs (at large scales, anyway) are somewhat variable.

it could be improved by instead of storing un-relevant data, its store useful data.
for example to store a filesharing on blockchain, the larger u store people (network) file, the larger chance that ur nonce will be valid to announce block

[Sy]

Any benchmarks yet about plot size limits aka what can you pc scan within 2000 seconds?

[goldmaxx]

Hi guys

Anybody in here willing to help me getting started?
I downloaded everything, but can't get it to work.
I'm on IRC in the burstcoin room...
The one that gets me started gets 50% of my first mined block...

Regards

Goldmaxx

[uray]

Any benchmarks yet about plot size limits aka what can you pc scan within 2000 seconds?

it should be within 240 seconds to be exact, based on OP post of blocktime is 4 minutes.

and there are no performance issue here, wether ur pc can scan terabyte of data within 200 seconds or not, since each block you only need to read relevant scoop which is about 0.024% of your plot size

[Sy]

Any benchmarks yet about plot size limits aka what can you pc scan within 2000 seconds?

it should be within 240 seconds to be exact, based on OP post of blocktime is 4 minutes

Okay so SSD Read speed id around 500 mb/s -> 120 gb?

[Only4money]

Dev any road map??? We need some exchange for it.

[uray]

Any benchmarks yet about plot size limits aka what can you pc scan within 2000 seconds?

it should be within 240 seconds to be exact, based on OP post of blocktime is 4 minutes

Okay so SSD Read speed id around 500 mb/s -> 120 gb?

i am updated my post, you dont need to read whole plot data each block, its only on relevant scoop, based on previous block hash

[SpeedDemon13]

Is it possible transfer the same data on a smaller hdd to larger and still mine with no issues? If mining with multiple hdd's on the same PC, how would it be possible to use one wallet to mine with or does it have to be separate ones in a multi-hdd setup?

[Sy]

Any benchmarks yet about plot size limits aka what can you pc scan within 2000 seconds?

it should be within 240 seconds to be exact, based on OP post of blocktime is 4 minutes

Okay so SSD Read speed id around 500 mb/s -> 120 gb?

i am updated my post, you dont need to read whole plot data each block, its only on relevant scoop, based on previous block hash

So basicly more machines don't really help in mining, just speed up plot generation because block chance depends on plot size?

Unless of course you reach your machines plot read limit but if it only reads 0.024% of your plot this would be around a few TB, hundreds?

[l3mmy]

it could be improved by instead of storing un-relevant data, its store useful data.
for example to store a filesharing on blockchain, the larger u store people (network) file, the larger chance that ur nonce will be valid to announce block

So I look at this as proof of capacity

Www.storj.io is proof of storage.  Storj is being developed to store data to build a decentralized cloud network.  

The way I'm looking at these you could have free space devoted to storj.  As that fills up and you need more delete a burst plot.  But you can at least utilize your drive fully

[KriszDev]

Any benchmarks yet about plot size limits aka what can you pc scan within 2000 seconds?

it should be within 240 seconds to be exact, based on OP post of blocktime is 4 minutes

Okay so SSD Read speed id around 500 mb/s -> 120 gb?

i am updated my post, you dont need to read whole plot data each block, its only on relevant scoop, based on previous block hash

So basicly more machines don't really help in mining, just speed up plot generation because block chance depends on plot size?

Unless of course you reach your machines plot read limit but if it only reads 0.024% of your plot this would be around a few TB, hundreds?

More size of HDD = more found block. Like in every coin invest more get more.

[Varitaz]

I think that it's rather hard to understand the technical lingo due to this being a new algorithm and all, so here's an analogy:

Generating plots are like making treasure maps. It is:

1) Okay to transfer your treasure maps around because they will still contain the same information about the treasure(i.e. you can copy and paste a generated plot onto another HDD and mine from there)

2) Not useful to copy and paste the same treasure map and try to mine from both locations, because they'll all be telling you the same treasure locations (i.e. you cannot duplicate your generated plots onto different HDDs and run miners on both, both miners will be calculating the same nonces)

3) Okay to stop generating treasure maps for awhile, and continue generating from the last treasure map you've generated. (you can stop generating nonces to do other work, but when you continue, be sure to configure your run_generate.bat to start generating from the last nonce that you've generated).

I'm not sure if that is helpful to you, but it was to me in trying to understand this whole PoC thing. Best of luck in mining! Only got 2 blocks here, and I've got a 256 Gb plot!