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September 02, 2015, 03:22:40 PM
 #22301

Why is everyone here still arguing about nonsense...

BTW - ByteEnt payouts should be accomplished soon... tiga will run them when he gets a chance.


Also, you can always watch the blockchain for the movement of the funds to the ByteEnt wallet, I always put a message from each account that I move the funds from, saying what the movement is, and that it is for the ByteEnt payout of (whatever month). The BURSTCITY miner has about 25TB mining for ByteEnt, and the rest comes from 100% of ninja's pool fee.




*side note - I'm thinking of cancelling the bank asset, I don't have as much trading money as I used to, and I don't have the time to focus on trading right now. I will keep everyone updated as far as what my decision is, but as of right now I'm pretty sure I'm going to cancel it.*


*another side note - I have something up for discussion right now in the core team, that if approved, will mean some big changes for BURST. I hope to post this soon. Smiley*



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September 02, 2015, 03:25:43 PM
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I was mining with 2.3TB of plots for a week now. Today the pool stats show I have only .7 TB. Do the plot files get old.

Should I delete them then and create new fresh ones?

The pool guesses how much storage you have based on your deadlines. It's not very accurate
it will go up and down according to your deadlines.

If there are sandbaggers on the pool getting 38-52% of the share then I don't have much deadlines so it would make sense. Could really use all of the 2.3 TB since I need to compete with those sandbaggers, before them was averaging 300 a day. Now maybe 5 a day


or what if my GPU Javaminer 3.6 wasn't working in that my gpu is tired?


Just saw the sandbaggers left so I picked up 8 burst, so thats the issue

I don't know what you mean by sandbaggers, and the number that is calculated is a rough estimate, as noted above, it will change based on how 'lucky' your miner is. There is no way to tell the exact amount of space unless you're using blago's miner. So if you want an accurate size, use blago's miner and you won't have any confusion.

Either way all that matters is your actual plot size, and how many good deadlines you submit, just because the pool is saying the size is changing, obviously your plots aren't magically getting bigger and smaller on your drive. There's nothing to worry about.



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September 02, 2015, 04:46:02 PM
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Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-02 11:48:21 UTC
Block: 138,366
Difficulty: 10,457

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 67,773
Registered Miners: 280

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 15,171
Registered Miners: 399

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 4,127
Registered Miners: 254

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 205,662
Registered Miners: 1,863

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 584,788
Registered Miners: 551

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 1,586
Registered Miners: 56

pool.blago
Pool balance: 571
Registered Miners: 113

pool.burstcoin.de
Pool balance: 24,336
Registered Miners: 120

pool.burstcoin.it
Pool balance: 77
Registered Miners: 52


Elmit, actually use the information "active miners", instead of "Registered Miners"


http://burstcoin.biz/pools


@SuchBurst (burstcoin.biz)  please add luxe's Jminer (https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/ann-burstcoin-jminer-gpu-assisted-poc-miner.842) to http://burstcoin.biz/downloads

There is no defined term "active miners", burstcoin used to calculate the last 24 hours. I have not found a fast way to calculate that.
I tend to use a temporary table of the last 24 hours of ALL transactions, and sum up for each pool the payments (amount, transaction to each miner)

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September 02, 2015, 04:52:41 PM
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*side note - I'm thinking of cancelling the bank asset, I don't have as much trading money as I used to, and I don't have the time to focus on trading right now. I will keep everyone updated as far as what my decision is, but as of right now I'm pretty sure I'm going to cancel it.*

*another side note - I have something up for discussion right now in the core team, that if approved, will mean some big changes for BURST. I hope to post this soon. Smiley*

How do you "cancel an asset"?

Is "core team" the definition of the absent "developer (team)"?

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September 02, 2015, 07:01:02 PM
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Ignored again. You just can stay normal, Elmit. Seek some help for your own sake. I know that you do not understand it, but you are decreasing the quality of this thread way too much.


Please: new, self-modded thread to get rid of all the nonsense.
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September 02, 2015, 08:11:50 PM
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Please: new, self-modded thread to get rid of all the nonsense.

No offense, but who should moderate it? This is a open community project ...
(Maybe my definition of nonsence is another than yours?!)
Maybe some users could reconsider, if this thread is the right place for their personal disputes.
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September 02, 2015, 08:32:51 PM
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Please: new, self-modded thread to get rid of all the nonsense.

No offense, but who should moderate it? This is a open community project ...
(Maybe my definition of nonsence is another than yours?!)
Maybe some users could reconsider, if this thread is the right place for their personal disputes.

Some threads need to be self-moderated because they tend to drag certain characters in who wont understand that it is an open community project where 100s of people will read what they write.

With freedom comes responsibility.

Don't get me wrong. As this an open community project, nothing will and should of course stop them from contribute, whether in a main modded thread if the content is relevant, or in their own started thread where all nonsense is allowed. "Elmit's view on BURST"-thread can not and should not be stopped, but as he has some kind of disorder the devs shouldn't let him treat page after page as his personal blog.

The posting of nonsense and unneeded agitation is exactly what happened to xmr, which nearly died of all the irrelevant posts before they did this suggested change.

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September 02, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
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Still un-answered questions:

1. How do you cancel an asset?

2. How do you calculate the network capacity in Terabyte?

3. What are the current PR projects, where we can help?

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September 02, 2015, 10:19:49 PM
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Ignored again. You just can stay normal, Elmit. Seek some help for your own sake. I know that you do not understand it, but you are decreasing the quality of this thread way too much.


Please: new, self-modded thread to get rid of all the nonsense.

I don't know what let you write that. Some people DO (ignore) and some people just SAY, that is the difference.
Some people ARE professionals (scientists, doctors) and some people SAY they are.
Some people DO contribute, and some people DEMAND others should do.

Get your mind straight. The price of BURST is at the bottom, although BURST has great features, like AT. Why not use your wisdom and power to promote it? Instead you and Co. use their time to attack me. I defend myself. Don't give me reasons to respond!

Drink some coffee and since you have anyway no daytime job, read the entire thread again, and CONTRIBUTE - Today!

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September 02, 2015, 10:26:08 PM
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I feel much better now. I read the history messages from some people and see that they use the same language on other places as well.
I thought it is just against me, but it is his attitude.

Great forum software to have this ability.

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September 02, 2015, 10:52:51 PM
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ByteEnt payout done Cheesy

Code:
Number of assets, Account, Payout amount
297405, BURST-79PK-DGC2-M4XP-HUAVB, 234206.4375
183000, BURST-W3VU-PJX2-KCN5-F3GP3, 144112.5
83060, BURST-EDTR-SU3E-VV64-3ALJJ, 65409.75
40630, BURST-J8HZ-99WH-5B3G-BCRMF, 31996.125
40000, BURST-BREF-TMF3-FZU3-FR7L7, 31500
35370, BURST-ACGB-YGHQ-G9ZL-5XD7U, 27853.875
20000, BURST-K376-EJSB-NMC5-FDF2F, 15750
15383, BURST-XCJ9-Z5H2-MVKM-HA8EP, 12114.1125
8829, BURST-YSFT-M5W8-E4Z7-D7UDQ, 6952.8375
8200, BURST-B3NG-NH5G-4N8E-CD2YQ, 6457.5
6502, BURST-N8KB-DKKW-9C4W-AF289, 5120.325
6219, BURST-2ECL-MQ5A-AZDN-C6WAR, 4897.4625
4842.2, BURST-Z35B-QZQ5-S8RA-6ELV8, 3813.2325
4800, BURST-SQGU-CMQM-DM47-A63ZK, 3780
4270.3, BURST-LSQV-BM94-VRFZ-48EUN, 3362.86125
4000, BURST-3XNU-XANK-L3LA-6RJRR, 3150
3596, BURST-3BEM-P3WL-TBM6-APZSR, 2831.85
3388, BURST-VVM6-WN67-TS5V-52NB3, 2668.05
2595, BURST-3JGU-CKJV-QQHZ-HH6RP, 2043.5625
2450, BURST-58RS-CFFU-QDW9-9QGD6, 1929.375
2304.1, BURST-KLKV-64G5-ZS2L-6F6PP, 1814.47875
2100, BURST-8XMM-697F-6T5D-C49LZ, 1653.75
2000, BURST-ZTDL-LH9B-G2XJ-G6NGB, 1575
1687, BURST-EYZ9-2NHP-VN4T-72RU4, 1328.5125
1637.7, BURST-8M7H-MECE-7TSW-BT2Z9, 1289.68875
1390, BURST-SDAC-FFUD-SMCB-D3Q74, 1094.625
1266, BURST-4FWQ-85G6-EHQQ-6T27Z, 996.975
1100, BURST-LAW7-GHX4-WV6W-HNRKG, 866.25
1100, BURST-G5EG-7MQ2-QJJ9-7VRCG, 866.25
1000, BURST-X2LG-EB5R-JWTE-8D8ZA, 787.5
1000, BURST-WTN9-HFDE-XBZB-933Q5, 787.5
1000, BURST-K48W-F6TF-LQJW-FHR6A, 787.5
750, BURST-8RHD-L8GS-UXTN-DEPDK, 590.625
667, BURST-YZJ6-LYBY-WAC6-BQYGC, 525.2625
631, BURST-X2MY-DV84-GB2J-HCXZE, 496.9125
551, BURST-TKZK-F72H-Z53X-FDSP2, 433.9125
539, BURST-ZTY4-QDR7-CQQW-44TUY, 424.4625
500, BURST-J6JQ-ZWC2-RK7E-CLY93, 393.75
400, BURST-YA29-QCEW-QXC3-BKXDL, 315
390, BURST-58XP-63WY-XSVQ-ASG9A, 307.125
300, BURST-ED7D-65NJ-9YPN-HMJ4K, 236.25
270, BURST-SLHG-PCZ5-3S5N-G7LGL, 212.625
240, BURST-G96T-JFYP-8LFR-9V7KL, 189
233, BURST-P6ZR-UMNC-P42F-8GRH5, 183.4875
202, BURST-XK5D-GUAH-4B8F-D8LYR, 159.075
200, BURST-LEPZ-TS4J-JJAF-DNHYS, 157.5
200, BURST-98FL-KWBK-RXKB-AXF7S, 157.5
150, BURST-SARW-AZYD-WB2R-8S2NS, 118.125
135, BURST-RR2K-7NMT-GRPQ-5VCQS, 106.3125
132, BURST-7UD2-ZVTL-9VQB-7YW9C, 103.95
110, BURST-K84W-LWVZ-B727-67WUL, 86.625
100, BURST-CREX-FD53-Q698-FJHLS, 78.75
100, BURST-SJFK-2JRK-38JJ-FFE6W, 78.75
100, BURST-GMYT-83XW-XU8V-H5Z55, 78.75
100, BURST-ZP9M-XTWD-APKS-CD4X8, 78.75
100, BURST-UKCA-C44B-68RG-6V57F, 78.75
100, BURST-QNE2-ET5Q-CPX5-335BW, 78.75
100, BURST-VJPX-YHKZ-MBN4-866X5, 78.75
70, BURST-QS8X-VWZS-JVNY-7QYDU, 55.125
67, BURST-D4CR-L4M6-RZ9U-A5J7J, 52.7625
61.8, BURST-TU82-PQRC-S492-ERJFX, 48.6675
60, BURST-247J-TQC8-T5EB-EJFZP, 47.25
50, BURST-6WXR-DFRA-U88E-ALANG, 39.375
50, BURST-WXSL-JFPN-5VBN-2N35S, 39.375
41, BURST-53DP-A7CT-YTM9-FZCLM, 32.2875
20, BURST-4BT2-JDQQ-2VMA-6P4TR, 15.75
20, BURST-DQXD-CZKW-JFVQ-CQKRV, 15.75
20, BURST-WQRG-XZ67-8HX2-4ESHN, 15.75
15, BURST-EQJE-476J-XHZU-4RAEN, 11.8125
14, BURST-8GKG-B4KD-MDFR-4247Q, 11.025
10.7, BURST-WKHQ-LQXX-HUR9-C5VQ2, 8.42625
10, BURST-5SBW-4NNR-VSTU-3L7SA, 7.875
10, BURST-ESP6-5WD7-BH9M-A85HN, 7.875
10, BURST-YTCM-Z647-2XGE-APUB6, 7.875
10, BURST-S8AY-3BZC-VUXW-EQDK7, 7.875
10, BURST-359Q-QH73-4N5P-FP54C, 7.875
10, BURST-6X8H-FVGN-S4VL-D6A93, 7.875
10, BURST-C7BV-TMLM-N7YM-66VTT, 7.875
4, BURST-7G43-CTSC-QLTM-GASD4, 3.15
2, BURST-S37A-4WRB-RJ35-7WN5A, 1.575
0.2, BURST-T49R-U9ES-W7N3-6PDNJ, 0.1575
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(ByteEnt payout done)

I am lovin' it:

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Still un-answered questions:

2. How do you calculate the network capacity in Terabyte?


network capacity in PB is ~ 19215358/basetarget.
I don't find the original posting - I just took a note, but forgot to write down wether it's PB or PiB..oops.


Anyway, the trend is clear: We're losing network capacity and/or miners.
bitladen has, for the first time, dug some 100 coins during the last 24 hours, equal to >27% of the network.
Looking at the last month he has some 1.85 - 2.2 PB online, and may be growing again.
Obviously some company has dysfunctional controlling and a few idling Petabytes - Bluffdale ?
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The dev gone already ? I did see him for a while. Any news from him or did I miss something ?
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Still un-answered questions:

2. How do you calculate the network capacity in Terabyte?


network capacity in PB is ~ 19215358/basetarget.
I don't find the original posting - I just took a note, but forgot to write down wether it's PB or PiB..oops.


Anyway, the trend is clear: We're losing network capacity and/or miners.
bitladen has, for the first time, dug some 100 coins during the last 24 hours, equal to >27% of the network.
Looking at the last month he has some 1.85 - 2.2 PB online, and may be growing again.
Obviously some company has dysfunctional controlling and a few idling Petabytes - Bluffdale ?


Thanks, I used that to Google for it for more information. Unfortunately the person mentioned that figures did not explain anything about it, nor do I trust any words from that person either.

That would be now:
19215358/2403189 = 7.995774781 PB

Let's accept this for now. This is the entire network. How can we conclude to a certain miner?
Something like this:

1024 (TB) * 19215358/<basetarget> * <Payout last 24 hours of that miner> / <Payout last 24 hours of all miners>

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The dev gone already ? I did see him for a while. Any news from him or did I miss something ?


*another side note - I have something up for discussion right now in the core team, that if approved, will mean some big changes for BURST. I hope to post this soon. Smiley*

It seems that the DEV (team) - sometimes referred to as "he", sometimes as "team" - has been replaced with a "core team", a group (or person?) who has the authority to make some "big changes". This core team is secret! So lets wait till we get news!

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Its a bit shame, and so strange to me that dev abandoned one of the gratest projects on crypto...
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Petabyte should be renamed 12 terabyte, to better reflect what it's backed by ...

Assets are not like a deposit account - like any stock, you get paid out for the amount you hold on the day they payout.

So you calculate everyone interest on the amount of 12Terabyte they hold every single day, then pay it out monthly? But sometimes pay people who don't own any 12Terabyte, have to assume that payout came out of someone elses interest. So in reality, you pay 12 terabyte holders a random guestimate of how much they kinda might of earned. Got it.

Thanks for the clarification.


Why should it be renamed to 12 Terabyte? It is an asset of 1024 Terabyte, didn't you read the description? Ahh, here we go, that is your weak point? You cannot read! ;-)

Because you don't have 1024 Terabyte. Based on the blocks you're winning you have 12 TB of mining backing your asset.

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We pay out the mining result of the day to the asset holders of the day. Simple, right? Too simple to understand, right? There is no INTEREST, there is MINING RESULT.

Then how do you payout to people that don't hold your asset, and then publicly demand they repay you ?

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At the beginning I calculated it by hand, and prompt I paid IronTiga twice. If you are a programmer, you will certainly make a check by hand or other means, wouldn't you? I know, IronTiga needs money, ...

Good calculating, so who did you underpay in order to double pay tiga? Who's script by the way, is working great for many other running legitimate assets.

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Whats with the network calculation? Since you quote 12 Terabyte, somewhere you must have got that, or just dreamed of numbers? (more likely anyway)

NetDiff (network difficulty = Estimated size of network in TB, based on last solution time) is calculated by Block0_BaseTarget / Block#N_BaseTarget = 19,215,358/basetarget

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What does Haitch GVDF and Haitch ACGB mean?
For me it sounds like the group of hacked computers / botnet you use for.

No, they're the two different account I mine with (BTW you missed BURST-5CYJ which is an account I test stuff with)  (They're also my Illuminati ID's - but don't tell anyone). One is a miner with an esata external chassis, the other is a miner with a homebrew SAN. I''ll post pics of my stuff, you willing to post pics of your Petabyte of mining storage? ;-) Didn't think so ....

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Since you always pick on my, choose another one:

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-02 11:48:21 UTC
Block: 138,366
Difficulty: 10,457

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 67,773
Registered Miners: 280

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 15,171
Registered Miners: 399

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 4,127
Registered Miners: 254

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 205,662
Registered Miners: 1,863

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 584,788
Registered Miners: 551

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 1,586
Registered Miners: 56

pool.blago
Pool balance: 571
Registered Miners: 113

pool.burstcoin.de
Pool balance: 24,336
Registered Miners: 120

pool.burstcoin.it
Pool balance: 77
Registered Miners: 52

I just noticed, that your boss's pool ninja lost some REGISTERED miners again. What a pity!

OMG, ninja went from 400 registered to only 399. IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD. ;-) I don't know why you think Crow is my boss, I work for no-one when it comes to crypto. I'm paying out of my own pocket for resources to support the dev/core team, what have you done for Burst other than being the Posterchild for crypto scam artists? People can't see your pool stats without registering, but registration is "not currently available" for, 3 months now - or is it longer? And yet, despite not being able to register and see any stats, 280 miners pointed their miners at your pool, yah, right.

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What's your opinion on the pool balance? in relation to registered / actual miners? I also asked that a long time ago, but figured it out in the meantime.

I have no opinion on that. The pools I mine with pay me out, make the payout amount transparent to anyone. Unlike your pool. Which discloses nothing. Your pool uses the pool code even the author of that code has disowned. That has known issues with failing to pay miners. And you hide all the info about your pool. Yet you maintain hundreds of miners, but your mining capacity seems to be tiny (12TB) based on the number of blocks you win - oh yeah, that's right, bot haven ....




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September 03, 2015, 03:53:49 AM
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Its a bit shame, and so strange to me that dev abandoned one of the gratest projects on crypto...

Exactly. I am really upset about that!

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September 03, 2015, 03:59:57 AM
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Its a bit shame, and so strange to me that dev abandoned one of the gratest projects on crypto...

Dev has not abandoned - he's off dealing with some personal issues and is expected back in the near future. For now the core team will be covering, If he is unable to return there is a plan in place for migrating to a new dev.

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