[XMR] Monero Speculation

[dEBRUYNE]

Ok I found the answer from the other thread.

any progress on the GUI?

You can follow the progess here:

https://github.com/mbg033/bitmonero

https://github.com/mbg033/monero-core

For anyone looking at "commits ahead", bear in mind that part of his work is already merged into master with this particular PR:

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/728

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[dEBRUYNE]

MiniNero Web Demo (Youtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8o9uNb_jc

Working on Chrome / Edge / Firefox desktop and mobile, although failed my single Safari test. If any potential users have Apple devices and want to help me debug that, pm me (I have only limited access to apple devices for testing.)

Source: https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNodo

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4j2hr1/mininero_web_demo_youtube/

[iCEBREAKER]

Ok I found the answer from the other thread.

any progress on the GUI?

You can follow the progess here:

https://github.com/mbg033/bitmonero

https://github.com/mbg033/monero-core

For anyone looking at "commits ahead", bear in mind that part of his work is already merged into master with this particular PR:

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/728

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MiniNero Web Demo (Youtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8o9uNb_jc

Working on Chrome / Edge / Firefox desktop and mobile, although failed my single Safari test. If any potential users have Apple devices and want to help me debug that, pm me (I have only limited access to apple devices for testing.)

Source: https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNodo

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4j2hr1/mininero_web_demo_youtube/

Worth watching. Very nice thin wallet concept, with some interesting features like xmr.to integration (send right to BTC addresses from your XMR wallet).

[rdnkjdi]

Can we crowdfund a an add campaign on /r/bitcoin just to piss everyone off on GUI release?

Monero: Just finished solving all of bitcoins problems.

[XMRpromotions]

Can we crowdfund a an add campaign on /r/bitcoin just to piss everyone off on GUI release?

Monero: Just finished solving all of bitcoins problems.

I don't think such an ad campaign would be cost effective

[ArticMine]

The GUI will be released when it is ready for release, not before. The same can be said for a host of Monero's Design and Development goals.  https://getmonero.org/design-goals/, for example RingCT.

As for timelines well that really belongs in the area of speculation. Software development timelines are inherently unpredictable under the best of circumstances. Add to this that the Monero project is a Free Libre Open Source Project funded entirely by donations of: 1) Talent, time, and other in kind donations, 2) Funds or 3) A combination of 1) and 2) and timelines become even more unpredictable.

Edit: The FLOSS funding above is really the best and likely the only way in crypto currency if one wants to avoid serious government regulatory risk.

[BobBarker]

The GUI will be released when it is ready for release, not before. The same can be said for a host of Monero's Design and Development goals.  https://getmonero.org/design-goals/, for example RingCT.

As for timelines well that really belongs in the area of speculation. Software development timelines are inherently unpredictable under the best of circumstances. Add to this that the Monero project is a Free Libre Open Source Project funded entirely by donations of: 1) Talent, time, and other in kind donations, 2) Funds or 3) A combination of 1) and 2) and timelines become even more unpredictable.

Edit: The FLOSS funding above is really the best and likely the only way in crypto currency if one wants to avoid serious government regulatory risk.

FREE SOFTWARE = FREEDOM
https://i.imgur.com/e0OlfBr.jpg

[ArticMine]

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FREE SOFTWARE = FREEDOM
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Not entirely true. Free Software is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for freedom. A good general counter example is Tivoization https://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.en.html. For crypto currencies such as Monero an incredible amount of effort is needed to mitigate against, minimize and ideally eliminate any form of centralized control. This is required for freedom, in addition to Free Software.

[nioc]

Another GUI commit today.

I nibbled today.

[iCEBREAKER]

Another GUI commit today.

[BobBarker]

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FREE SOFTWARE = FREEDOM
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Not entirely true. Free Software is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for freedom. A good general counter example is Tivoization https://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.en.html. For crypto currencies such as Monero an incredible amount of effort is needed to mitigate against, minimize and ideally eliminate any form of centralized control. This is required for freedom, in addition to Free Software.

ArticMine is Richard Stallman confirmed

[dEBRUYNE]

"Monero semi-weekly dev meeting note highlights - 2016-05-08"

https://hellomonero.com/article/monero-semi-weekly-dev-meeting-note-highlights-2016-05-08

Thanks to aerbax!

[bitebits]

"Monero semi-weekly dev meeting note highlights - 2016-05-08"

https://hellomonero.com/article/monero-semi-weekly-dev-meeting-note-highlights-2016-05-08

Thanks to aerbax!

Wow, those really are some highlights! Lots of (major apparently) performance improvements and:

- The RingCT code is probably ready for TestNet (!!)
- The ARM7 platform should get binaries in the next point release (desperately want my dust collecting raspbery PI 2b running as a node, fun summer holiday project)

[dEBRUYNE]

FYI on potential competition to Monero:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290263.msg14848587#msg14848587

wow... this is new development      

im preparing popcorn now... LOL  

... and the post has now being removed. Frankly fixing Darksend could be worth a lot of money so no hard feelings towards TPTB_need_war for trying. If TPTB_need_war actually has a solution, I am sure the Dash community will pay him for it and it will be money well earned. Does the Monero community have to be concerned about all of this. I doubt it.

All mixing that is active requires, obviously, activity. If you don't get activity up you won't ever significantly increase transaction speed of CoinJoin / DarkSend transactions. Fortunately, Monero mixes passively and therefore doesn't require activity of other participants on the network.

[iCEBREAKER]

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/how-to-lose-3-million-dollars-in-one-second/

About options trading and Black-Scholes.

[dEBRUYNE]

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/how-to-lose-3-million-dollars-in-one-second/

About options trading and Black-Scholes.

He probably wrote the options, I have a hard time believing he would lose that much when merely buying options. Also, I feel like the author didn't really explain why stocks cannot "jump" when using Black-Scholes to price options.

The Black-Scholes model assumes that the price evolves according to a geometric Brownian motion. Thus, basically implying that (i) returns on the stock follow a log-normal and (ii) stock prices must evolve smoothly (they cannot jump). The log-normal assumption posits that the (natural) log of returns is normally distributed, i.e., if S0 denotes the current price, and St the price t years from the present you get the follow formula:

ln(St/S0) ~ N(μt, σ^2t)

However, distribution of stock returns tends to have (i) fat tails (leptokurtosis | extreme observations) and (ii) skewness which are not in line with aforementioned assumptions.

Guess bottomline is that one always has to be cautious.

[rpietila]

Guess bottomline is that one always have to be cautious.

Well not always. But when writing options - yes 

[sockpuppet1]

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Anonymity well I tried. It is rather impractical to try to hide from the NSA but let's see what Zcash and Monero end up with. Privacy is important, so that is what they are really vying for, not anonymous and not hiding from the global elite. The viewkey aspect is going to be crucial.

"Anonymity well I tried"

Maybe anonmity is not that important for your average user.  But, the ability to keep what is yours from being taken by thebanksters, TPTB, your local hacker, is an absolute.  The unconditional control of any CC must remain with the individual.

Mass privacy is very important. That is why Monero and Zcash matter. We'll never have mass anonymity. Fuhgeddaboudit.

Privacy doesn't mean privacy from the authorities. Sorry. Politics and technology will never allow it. I tried to search for the absolute technology for anonymity and I can promise you it does not exist to be found. I promise you.

The control over an individual's CC will remain with the individual, but the control over the CC protocol will remain with the global elite. This will always be the case. Accept it. This is the reality of the world we exist in.

[sockpuppet1]

FYI on potential competition to Monero:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290263.msg14848587#msg14848587

wow... this is new development

im preparing popcorn now... LOL

... and the post has now being removed. Frankly fixing Darksend could be worth a lot of money so no hard feelings towards TPTB_need_war for trying. If TPTB_need_war actually has a solution, I am sure the Dash community will pay him for it and it will be money well earned. Does the Monero community have to be concerned about all of this. I doubt it.

I had an error so I immediately deleted it. I wish you wouldn't quote what had already been deleted before you posted your reply. Why do you gloat about promulgating FUD against Monero! If I deleted it, it means don't promulgate it. It is your choice if you want to promulgate false information.  

That is my fault for trying to do too many thoughts at the same time. I have my mind deep in other technology and tried to quickly (as in 3 minutes of thought only) come back to the anonymity issue because of some realization I had about how tainted Bitcoins are due to all the scams. And it caused me to have an idea about DE (which I will post on shortly), but I tried to extend it quickly to CoinJoin and I made an error about trust. In short, you can remove the simultaneity requirement if you allow short-term trust, and this might be a viable method for more efficient DE, but it is not viable for onion routing across a masternode network. So I deleted it. Apologies for the 60 seconds of false warning which was deleted until you decided to gloat and resurrect a false warning. That is what I get for rushing in such a thread of egotistical manaics.

ArticMine it is pitiful that you are a Copy-leftist, who believes in viral licenses and forcing free software. You Communist. As Eric Raymond says, "stop all the oppressive licenses and use permissive licences. You are scaring the fuck out of the corporate world, and not without their justified reason to be scared". I prefer the Unlicense. You kill open source with that Richard Stallman Communism, because then for-profits are scared to use open source.