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August 07, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
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What happened with the app going missing in googleplay.at least its back again

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August 07, 2015, 08:18:16 PM
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What happened with the app going missing in googleplay.at least its back again

Its back?
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August 07, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
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I am wondering why communication about this issue has been so minimal from the devs. During the crash, the users were the ones to step up to give pep talks to calm people's nerves, and after like 24 hours, the dev came on and simply said "Don't worry... we're in the office."

So what's going on? It's been three days and the app is still missing from the play store. Each day, I keep clicking the link to see if it's there, and each day it is missing. If it were simply a mistake, I would think Google would have replaced it within 24 hours with an apology. So now it's been not one, not two, but three days later? We are now heading into the weekend without a response, and are expected not to worry?

The devs must have received some sort of reply from the Play Store by now. What did they say?
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Last edit: August 07, 2015, 09:02:32 PM by peled1986
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I am wondering why communication about this issue has been so minimal from the devs. During the crash, the users were the ones to step up to give pep talks to calm people's nerves, and after like 24 hours, the dev came on and simply said "Don't worry... we're in the office."

So what's going on? It's been three days and the app is still missing from the play store. Each day, I keep clicking the link to see if it's there, and each day it is missing. If it were simply a mistake, I would think Google would have replaced it within 24 hours with an apology. So now it's been not one, not two, but three days later? We are now heading into the weekend without a response, and are expected not to worry?

The devs must have received some sort of reply from the Play Store by now. What did they say?

According to Google Play representative the reason for the app suspension is the app icon similarity to Telegrams icon. That's a weird argument when you look at Telegram search result in google play: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=telegram&c=apps&hl=en.

There is even an app with the exact (!) same logo as Telegram: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.korniltsev.telegram&hl=en.

Someone must have complained specifically about our app that is causing confusion. We are still in touch with Google Play to unsuspend the app, if it won't be done in the next few days we will change the listing and upload a new version during next week.

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August 07, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
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Someone must have complained specifically about our app that is causing confusion. We are still in touch with Google Play to unsuspend the app, if it won't be done in the next few days we will change the listing and upload a new version during next week.

I hear ya. Specific, targeted complaints explain almost all of the otherwise-weird suspensions.






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August 07, 2015, 09:36:55 PM
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Someone must have complained specifically about our app that is causing confusion. We are still in touch with Google Play to unsuspend the app, if it won't be done in the next few days we will change the listing and upload a new version during next week.

I hear ya. Specific, targeted complaints explain almost all of the otherwise-weird suspensions.

I think whoever it was it's someone within the Crypto space, this is actually good news, the app is showing potential, competitors no likey likey, GetGems doesn't care, like abullet train, innovation after innovation, mainstream get ready.
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August 08, 2015, 12:42:19 AM
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Wow, what a dumb excuse to take it off.

Even the founder of telegram approves of GEMZ otherwise he would have said something about the logo.

It must be someone salty that is trying to fud so they can get cheap GEMZ, these tactics are overdone on bitcointalk.


Don't forget all the newbie accounts with less than 5 posts flooding in here complaining. Scare tactics that's all.
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August 08, 2015, 12:52:25 AM
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lamest excuse. but there's easily an infinite amount of lame excuses, nonsense, troll-ing comments and scams on the internet. And almost every company has encounter it and dealt with it. i agree with reRaise however. Good news for the app. But bad news for Google. Regardless, glad to know the GetGems Team has a solution to deal with this.

the problem is with Google in the end. very very unbelievable the way how Google handled it. they clearly need a binoculars with a magnifying glass in front to see that a Hot Pink Gem Icon is NOT the same as a White Arrow in a blue circle. No...the most obvious is they are COLORBLIND - PINK vs BLUE!

GooglePlay indeed. We just got played by them. This is becoming like Youtube. get 3 strikes by some random newly created youtube accounts and the Youtube Channel gets deleted automatically without any approval from Google. Shouldnt there be An Approval System done by Google and not by a**hole*? like by now after all these years???

Oh and eightnineten, well firstly, welcome to GetGems Cheesy. FYI, Google isn't always the innocent party. Yea sure they are a HUGE company. But their system and their way of doing things can be extremely ridiculous and flawed. Its probably worst than a loophole and hackers taking advantage of that loophole to steal data. At least Google can still be on your side to help settle the matter and recover everything. But if its Google's System or Policies, Google isn't gonna take your side as the chances can be 50/50. Take Youtube for example regarding copyright strikes against youtube channels. it wasn't just a hot soup. a volcano was happening over this matter. and no - its not always receiving copyright strikes from said companies or producers. sometimes, all it takes is just a group effort of some anonymous citizens who decided to strike against a channel without any good reasons and BAM...youtube channel is gone. if the owner of the channel dont act fast enough, Google's System will allow it to happen.


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August 08, 2015, 08:50:30 AM
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Android App is live again: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.getgemsmessenger.app&hl=en
Thank you for the patience and understanding everyone.

New beta version will be released to testers today.

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August 08, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
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lamest excuse. but there's easily an infinite amount of lame excuses, nonsense, troll-ing comments and scams on the internet. And almost every company has encounter it and dealt with it. i agree with reRaise however. Good news for the app. But bad news for Google. Regardless, glad to know the GetGems Team has a solution to deal with this.

the problem is with Google in the end. very very unbelievable the way how Google handled it. they clearly need a binoculars with a magnifying glass in front to see that a Hot Pink Gem Icon is NOT the same as a White Arrow in a blue circle. No...the most obvious is they are COLORBLIND - PINK vs BLUE!

GooglePlay indeed. We just got played by them. This is becoming like Youtube. get 3 strikes by some random newly created youtube accounts and the Youtube Channel gets deleted automatically without any approval from Google. Shouldnt there be An Approval System done by Google and not by a**hole*? like by now after all these years???

Oh and eightnineten, well firstly, welcome to GetGems Cheesy. FYI, Google isn't always the innocent party. Yea sure they are a HUGE company. But their system and their way of doing things can be extremely ridiculous and flawed. Its probably worst than a loophole and hackers taking advantage of that loophole to steal data. At least Google can still be on your side to help settle the matter and recover everything. But if its Google's System or Policies, Google isn't gonna take your side as the chances can be 50/50. Take Youtube for example regarding copyright strikes against youtube channels. it wasn't just a hot soup. a volcano was happening over this matter. and no - its not always receiving copyright strikes from said companies or producers. sometimes, all it takes is just a group effort of some anonymous citizens who decided to strike against a channel without any good reasons and BAM...youtube channel is gone. if the owner of the channel dont act fast enough, Google's System will allow it to happen.

That was indeed a ridiculous closer to a retarded act by google, and right after that the price came down. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a calculated tactic to disrupt GetGems momentum since it was getting lot of coverage. But now it's back in the store again and the app should continue even stronger. I have started this by making a Thread in the alt section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1146446.0
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August 08, 2015, 03:15:39 PM
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Android App is live again: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.getgemsmessenger.app&hl=en
Thank you for the patience and understanding everyone.

New beta version will be released to testers today.



Awesome!
Let's get back to the best part of GetGems - Making it HAPPEN!

I hope things like this doesn't happen again. But we can never count on them trolls or a**hole*. Gotta have contingency plans!

MORE NEWS!
http://btcnews.jp/deep-dive-israel-the-bitcoin-startup-trend/

not sure what it says. anybody care to translate?


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August 09, 2015, 03:47:49 PM
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Awesome!
Let's get back to the best part of GetGems - Making it HAPPEN!

I hope things like this doesn't happen again. But we can never count on them trolls or a**hole*. Gotta have contingency plans!

MORE NEWS!
http://btcnews.jp/deep-dive-israel-the-bitcoin-startup-trend/

not sure what it says. anybody care to translate?

You do realize that procaiming "MORE NEWS!" and then linking to a story that has nothing to do with Gemz and that is written in Chinese such that even you don't know what is says is a little strange, right?  Huh
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Awesome!
Let's get back to the best part of GetGems - Making it HAPPEN!

I hope things like this doesn't happen again. But we can never count on them trolls or a**hole*. Gotta have contingency plans!

MORE NEWS!
http://btcnews.jp/deep-dive-israel-the-bitcoin-startup-trend/

not sure what it says. anybody care to translate?

You do realize that procaiming "MORE NEWS!" and then linking to a story that has nothing to do with Gemz and that is written in Chinese such that even you don't know what is says is a little strange, right?  Huh

It's Japanese, not Chinese, and the story features GetGems clearly in the conversation. You only have to do a CTRL+F for that.
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AH HA! So it does  Grin (apologies to yoyoamigo  Wink)

In that case I went to Google Translate and here is what the article says:

Other trends, will include "attention economy". Mr. Hori is, Do you know the GetGems? The other day, but I or have decided to raise funds from the magma Ventures.

Hori: Do you was from Israel startup I GetGems? Just recently, I also heard that it is beginning trendy in Japan.

Ofer: I also looked at trends in GetGems, they I is where you are beginning to the focus in Japan. Their service ...

Ayal: Messenger app.

Hori: I also use!

Ayal: If in fact than are using GetGems, I'm not to be explained how the other they are doing. Attention economy of the concept, application, the more you use the messaging, is a mechanism to attract attention, it is the thing that has come from the place you want to promote something to someone. In terms of other, for example I'm Synereo are also becoming larger.
http://www.synereo.com/

Ofer: It is like a distributed Facebook.

Ayal: Please think Facebook is on the block chain. It is still in its infancy, but the possibility that the increase can be found in plenty.

Hori: They also, but it's gonna attention economy-related start-up?

Ayal: That's right. We are trying to implement a lot of theories about the attention economy.

Hori: If you say that theory?

Ofer: In psychological approach, or people to how to communicate with others, how to lead, what kind of relationship is built. The connection of the people, we are trying to bring about a new relationship.

Ayal: It seems I do not have Hunt to the latest situation, is being developed in order to create an environment of SNS of peer-to-peer.

Hori: Well, I still do where I early stage.

The Ofer: Yes, because it is published and whether is trying to achieve what it on the web site, Please check it.

Hori: I think let's later checking. By the way, why the SNS on the block chain?

Ayal: Why I, white on Facebook, such as Google and Wikipedia, is not it "friendly dictator (Benevolent dictatorship)".

Hori: Well, I'm sorry, "friendly dictator". It is a difficult word for the Japanese smile

Ayal: In other words, Jimmy Wales (Wikipedia founder), vice Sergey Brin, they even knowing its adverse effect in that you are able to successfully manage their services, yet tries to encourage the flow. Zuckerberg also, he might be not a good guy, and I think you have the good job.

Ayal: But one day, for example when they were gone, therefore the system that is Kontoru in themselves, might in some cases be used for such political abuse, abuse of the system.

Ofer: They are basically, it's a centralized mechanism. That model sales up by collecting the advertising and attention, user characteristics are aggregated in the center each time you click on an ad, it is that the information model to get revenue from advertisers to base that's basic. Synereo is completely different to this, has become a decentralized the Peer-to-peer on the environment. There is no administrator of centralization, actually my attention, was dispersed storage in decentralized Peer-to-peer environment as their own data, I efforts to make themselves can be utilized.

Hori: so long as such a thing, NameCoin to provide a top-level domain of ".bit" on top of the block chain is also It is close to such a concept. However, it is similar even Synereo, it is that to build applications on the D-App is, than such that there could be exploited to money laundering and other crimes.

Ofer: Yes, it is as you pointed out. However, I believe the thing that always appear to because people who do bad things. Child pornography, etc. It would be a good example. The nature of the Internet, "good" people and "bad" people and it would take the communication lumped in. It is bad just because, I will rid the Internet from this world, but it does not think.

Hori: such as the D-App on the block chain, such as Synereo, I Been This will be always a problem. How do you going to solve complex problems, such as money laundering? And what a good idea, Do you have any such trend has been noted?

Ayal: For Synereo, social structural context, I think I'm going to solve this problem.

Ayal: a little more In particular, as well as of the Bitcoin system, rather than a member, if the others do not even know the environment in which to base the system that are participating, with a little more psychological approach, It would not as it can resolve an anti-said problem.

Ofer: such as the mechanism such as to everyone's criminal exposed to public view.

Ayal: Yes, I think you are taking a similar approach even Facebook. For example, it works evil someone ridiculous, when you've crossed the line is, everyone is posting that fact to Facebook. Soon he will continue to spread is that worked evil.

Ayal: Just to what people make bad things still, so sometimes ridiculously nasty state.

Ofer: After all, in all, it is that balance is important.
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Obviously most of that is translated poorly, but this is the take-away from the article as far as I can tell:

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Other trends, will include "attention economy". Mr. Hori is, Do you know the GetGems?

Hori: Do you was from Israel startup I GetGems? Just recently, I also heard that it is beginning trendy in Japan.

Ofer: I also looked at trends in GetGems, they I is where you are beginning to the focus in Japan. Their service ...

Ayal: Messenger app.

Hori: I also use!
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Just one more thing. Will there be a warning or notice of when the investor airdrop occurs so we have time to put gems into the app. I have mine on counterparty at the momonet



I heard rumours that the airdrop will start in August. I have most of my coins in counterparty wallet also. Again I wouldn't worry I trust the team. There may be a way to connect your counterparty wallet to the app, not sure yet so you wouldn't need to move all your coins to the app anyway....let's wait and see.

can someone explain what this "airdrop" is?

Also I tried to use GetGems as it sounded interested. Sent some coins to wallet from exchange (which took a while). tried to send to a new user and got this error. Tried again next day. still no luck.



GetGems

Invalid DER format public key

ps is there an IRC?
What advantages over StartChat besides existence of iPhone app?

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August 10, 2015, 08:15:03 AM
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can someone explain what this "airdrop" is?

What advantages over StartChat besides existence of iPhone app?

Everything about this coin, including Airdrop, is answered in the original post in the FAQ, but is buried a bit down the page (I think it should be featured more prominently in the OP, since it answered all of my questions). The FAQ is here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a129pSWTDWKWt945Un7NyTxTKPiVq5MjGFLs8mIuZug/edit#heading=h.g39lq9b7eajt

Having an iOS app is huge, since Apple represents 15% of the mobile marketshare. Would you want to block 15% of your family and friends?

StartChat seems to target techno-savvy Bitcoin/Keiser-aware adults with its cut-and-dry interface, whereas GetGems targets kids, teens, and even adults in an extremely user-friendly environment. I have to give a shout-out to the designers and visionaries of GetGems... really fresh and inviting art direction that makes everyday people want to use the app. In addition, as has been mentioned before on here, but 50 cents doesn't mean much to an adult, whereas a free iTunes or Amazon gift card is a pretty big deal to a kid.

Teens are the trend setters when it comes to adopting new technologies and apps (look at Whatsapp, Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Kik, etc.) If teens adopt a new app, their parents will soon adopt it, and their parents will tell their friends. Imagine if there were an easy way for a parent to send their kid money for food or a cab ride? Well, GetGems solves this problem.

The only problems I see with both StartCoin and GetGems is that it's a royal pain to buy coins, and storing them in an on-chain wallet on a clean/secure computer can't be expected from most users; however, these are pretty big hurdles. Once these issues are solved, perhaps with the ability to buy Gems through an already established network of installed BTC ATMs, and an idiot-proof, credit-card-sized Gems Trezor for $50, then the sky is the limit.

Lastly, if you look at the ratio of downloads to reviews on the Google Play store, StartChat has over 10,000 downloads (which could be anywhere from 10,000 to 50,000), but only just over 117 reviews with an average rating of 4.2, whereas GetGems has 5,000-10,000 downloads and already over 409 reviews and climbing fast, with an average rating of 4.5.

If I were looking at how much potential an app has, I would say based solely on the ratio of downloads to the number of ratings, people like GetGems at least 4 times as much as they like StartChat, if not much more. In my mind, this is a concrete measure of how viral a product is, and means it is much more likely to be shared with friends. Remember that things are just starting to pick up here—I see big things in the future for GetGems.
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August 10, 2015, 08:18:55 AM
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Also I tried to use GetGems as it sounded interested. Sent some coins to wallet from exchange (which took a while). tried to send to a new user and got this error. Tried again next day. still no luck.

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August 10, 2015, 12:09:59 PM
Last edit: August 10, 2015, 12:29:56 PM by Netnox
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What advantages over StartChat besides existence of iPhone app?

I haven't used Startchat so don't know much about it, but from the screenshot it looks very basic. Advantages would be:

- iOS support
- Julia (personal Bitcoin assistant which allows you to buy and sell bitcoin on Coinbase, send and receive Bitcoin and check balances on Coinbase, all from withing the app, https://developers.coinbase.com/blog/2015/08/03/julia-telegram-bot-for-bitcoin
- Bits support
- Making it rain in group chats (Bits and Gems)
- Tipping individuals in group chat
- Tip payment stickers (pictures https://medium.com/@GetGems/getgems-development-update-15-july-26-2015-68ac18abb5f6)
- In build store
- In build QR scanner
- Wallet has transaction history and when you tap on one it shows the details
- Each user has a referral link
- Getting a daily reward for checking in, getting rewarded for inviting others from other social media by just a tap
- Better looking interface (imo)
- More user friendly, i think with startchat you have to tap attachment and press coins to send, in gg you just can send from withing the chatbox

or simple things like these, startchat says 'coins', but the average user will wonder what it means, but gg makes it more clear 'send BTC' and 'send Gems'. Such details can make a big difference.


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August 10, 2015, 12:30:40 PM
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I kept hearing people talk about startchat but I didn't see the link cause I assumed they were talking about Startcoin so I didn't see the relevance, then it clicked that this is Max Kieser and startchat is a Telegram app.


Interesting story, Over the last year I sometimes mentioned Getgems in a few comment sections on sites I visit, just try to get the word out a bit. Funny thing is I remember posting on Max Kiesers site about Getgems last year sometime. Which makes me wonder if they saw it, and saw what Getgems were doing and thought hey we can do that too and have the PR to push it. We can't be sure but I bet they got the concept from Getgems and who knows initially my post. It seems too much of a coincidence that they used a Telgram client IMO.

But I also say, competition is great, we don't need to be concerned plus at this point no one is really bringing anything like Getgems to the table. So far competitors have stuck a wallet on a messenger app, Getgems with the attention model is so much more than that. good luck to them I say.
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