GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[bananafana]

Tacit confirmation that Josh has no developers left in house? He's left it entirely up to "Team Paycoin" now?

Even more clearly here. "... a group of devs, under the management of Team Paycoin ..."

[geegaw]

 

[KC6TTR]

Uhmmm... WTF?

Thanks, but no thanks.

That GAWCEO character is creeping me out lately. Acting so weird (or should I say - much weirder than usual) - it can't be the same Mr.Garza, can it?

Well, IMO, he has always been very "unfocused" on a single business task or logical train of thought, which was the primary red flag I saw back at the end of July when the talk of Hashlets first surfaced. There were other ways to properly evolve and monetize his ideas, but he couldn't either A. see them and/or B. understand them and/or C. have the focus/patience to develop them. Regardless, it is apparent he didn't and most likely still doesn't accept the fact that each quantifiable process/phase in building a successful business venture takes discipline and meeting strategic milestones/goals BEFORE starting the next process/phase.

Oh well... 

Scott-

[owlcatz]

Uhmmm... WTF?

Thanks, but no thanks.

That GAWCEO character is creeping me out lately. Acting so weird (or should I say - much weirder than usual) - it can't be the same Mr.Garza, can it?

Well, IMO, he has always been very "unfocused" on a single business task or logical train of thought, which was the primary red flag I saw back at the end of July when the talk of Hashlets first surfaced. There were other ways to properly evolve and monetize his ideas, but he couldn't either A. see them and/or B. understand them and/or C. have the focus/patience to develop them. Regardless, it is apparent he didn't and most likely still doesn't accept the fact that each quantifiable process/phase in building a successful business venture takes discipline and meeting strategic milestones/goals BEFORE starting the next process/phase.

Oh well... 

Scott-

Nice post thanks. I remember reading a news article not long ago about you "being in his inner circle" at first (before hashlets etc) or something and then it went sour for some reason... Can you tell us your story, or if not, it's fine, just asking, as I'm only curious. I do appreciate all your posts, you are one of the few here (myself not always included, tbh) who treat this with 100% seriousness. Thanks either way.

[CAVIRTEX_mourner3]

I couldn't believe anyone took this seriously in the first place... the fact that there are still some people willing to buy these ponzicoins for $.9 is absolutely incomprehensible. There are still a bunch of people on hashtalk who don't realize that this was a scam from day one. It really is like Jonestown over there.

[strangerdanger101]

Last night I spent $240 today $280 =$520 now have an account at Zenhash that would have set me back over $10K in December What a firesale they are having

WOW! Way to go Mr. Buffet! With any luck that astute investment will be worth at least $100 a month from now!  

Be worth more than your welfare anyway,at least I can afford to throw money about at longshots

You are a complete moron and the personal attack for no apparent reason makes you a complete asshole on top of it. Exactly how do you know how much money anyone has to throw around? The fact that you chose to throw your money at a ponzi/scam in the last dying days and brag about it makes you one of the dumbest mother fuckers in this thread. I hope you throw more money at it and lose every last cent which will inevitably happen unless you can find a bigger sucker than yourself to unload it on.

one of the few times I will agree with everything you said

[bitcoinnoisseur]

Last night I spent $240 today $280 =$520 now have an account at Zenhash that would have set me back over $10K in December What a firesale they are having

WOW! Way to go Mr. Buffet! With any luck that astute investment will be worth at least $100 a month from now!  

Be worth more than your welfare anyway,at least I can afford to throw money about at longshots

You are a complete moron and the personal attack for no apparent reason makes you a complete asshole on top of it. Exactly how do you know how much money anyone has to throw around? The fact that you chose to throw your money at a ponzi/scam in the last dying days and brag about it makes you one of the dumbest mother fuckers in this thread. I hope you throw more money at it and lose every last cent which will inevitably happen unless you can find a bigger sucker than yourself to unload it on.

one of the few times I will agree with everything you said

Fair enough and just so you know I agree with a lot of things you have to say.

[KC6TTR]

Uhmmm... WTF?

Thanks, but no thanks.

That GAWCEO character is creeping me out lately. Acting so weird (or should I say - much weirder than usual) - it can't be the same Mr.Garza, can it?

Well, IMO, he has always been very "unfocused" on a single business task or logical train of thought, which was the primary red flag I saw back at the end of July when the talk of Hashlets first surfaced. There were other ways to properly evolve and monetize his ideas, but he couldn't either A. see them and/or B. understand them and/or C. have the focus/patience to develop them. Regardless, it is apparent he didn't and most likely still doesn't accept the fact that each quantifiable process/phase in building a successful business venture takes discipline and meeting strategic milestones/goals BEFORE starting the next process/phase.

Oh well...  

Scott-

Nice post thanks. I remember reading a news article not long ago about you "being in his inner circle" at first (before hashlets etc) or something and then it went sour for some reason... Can you tell us your story, or if not, it's fine, just asking, as I'm only curious. I do appreciate all your posts, you are one of the few here (myself not always included, tbh) who treat this with 100% seriousness. Thanks either way.

I do not want to derail this thread more than it usually gets and much of my interaction with GAW/Garza has already been documented, but in a nutshell –

I am a 3rd generation entrepreneur who, like Garza, started young (almost 20 years ago for me). As I have stated to others, when I was first introduced to Garza, a lot of the passion he appeared to have for the crypto hardware business reminded me a lot of myself many moons ago when I started my first real smart card [embedded systems] company; so I took an interest in doing what I could in providing business/technology feedback, information, and suggestions via his various web forums and a few private/small group video conference calls with him. Like others, I also invested about US$10K in hardware for my solar powered home farm and Zen hosted miners. The issues started when simple common sense took a back seat to erratic ideas and wasteful business decisions (July/August of 2014).

Since I have done business in over 25 countries in addition to having lived in Hong Kong and Germany, I had access to the resources needed to dig a little deeper and find out who the real Mr. Garza was and if there was some more info that could be learned in regards to why he was making some of these “odd” decisions – such as his/their cancelation of the free hardware hosting less than 60 days after offering it, taking forever or never shipping hosted miners to owners, doing everything under the sun to convert hardware customers to the upcoming hashlets, and the status of the elusive vaultbreakers. What I found out was very disturbing. When my concerns were voiced, I saw the true side of Garza and was quickly “dealt with” via his now Hashtalk fourm. After further confirmation came in regarding what was really happening behind the scenes, I sold everything I had at an approx. 30% loss and never looked back… well, except to provide the info I had to the proper authorities and those who would listen. The rest is history – or will soon be…

 Scott-

[strangerdanger101]

Last night I spent $240 today $280 =$520 now have an account at Zenhash that would have set me back over $10K in December What a firesale they are having

WOW! Way to go Mr. Buffet! With any luck that astute investment will be worth at least $100 a month from now!  

Be worth more than your welfare anyway,at least I can afford to throw money about at longshots

You are a complete moron and the personal attack for no apparent reason makes you a complete asshole on top of it. Exactly how do you know how much money anyone has to throw around? The fact that you chose to throw your money at a ponzi/scam in the last dying days and brag about it makes you one of the dumbest mother fuckers in this thread. I hope you throw more money at it and lose every last cent which will inevitably happen unless you can find a bigger sucker than yourself to unload it on.

one of the few times I will agree with everything you said

Fair enough and just so you know I agree with a lot of things you have to say.

[owlcatz]

Uhmmm... WTF?

Thanks, but no thanks.

That GAWCEO character is creeping me out lately. Acting so weird (or should I say - much weirder than usual) - it can't be the same Mr.Garza, can it?

Well, IMO, he has always been very "unfocused" on a single business task or logical train of thought, which was the primary red flag I saw back at the end of July when the talk of Hashlets first surfaced. There were other ways to properly evolve and monetize his ideas, but he couldn't either A. see them and/or B. understand them and/or C. have the focus/patience to develop them. Regardless, it is apparent he didn't and most likely still doesn't accept the fact that each quantifiable process/phase in building a successful business venture takes discipline and meeting strategic milestones/goals BEFORE starting the next process/phase.

Oh well...  

Scott-

Nice post thanks. I remember reading a news article not long ago about you "being in his inner circle" at first (before hashlets etc) or something and then it went sour for some reason... Can you tell us your story, or if not, it's fine, just asking, as I'm only curious. I do appreciate all your posts, you are one of the few here (myself not always included, tbh) who treat this with 100% seriousness. Thanks either way.

I do not want to derail this thread more than it usually gets and much of my interaction with GAW/Garza has already been documented, but in a nutshell –

I am a 3rd generation entrepreneur who, like Garza, started young (almost 20 years ago for me). As I have stated to others, when I was first introduced to Garza, a lot of the passion he appeared to have for the crypto hardware business reminded me a lot of myself many moons ago when I started my first real smart card [embedded systems] company; so I took an interest in doing what I could in providing business/technology feedback, information, and suggestions via his various web forums and a few private/small group video conference calls with him. Like others, I also invested about US$10K in hardware for my solar powered home farm and Zen hosted miners. The issues started when simple common sense took a back seat to erratic ideas and wasteful business decisions (July/August of 2014).

Since I have done business in over 25 countries in addition to having lived in Hong Kong and Germany, I had access to the resources needed to dig a little deeper and find out who the real Mr. Garza was and if there was some more info that could be learned in regards to why he was making some of these “odd” decisions – such as his/their cancelation of the free hardware hosting less than 60 days after offering it, taking forever or never shipping hosted miners to owners, doing everything under the sun to convert hardware customers to the upcoming hashlets, and the status of the elusive vaultbreakers. What I found out was very disturbing. When my concerns were voiced, I saw the true side of Garza and was quickly “dealt with” via his now Hashtalk fourm. After further confirmation came in regarding what was really happening behind the scenes, I sold everything I had at an approx. 30% loss and never looked back… well, except to provide the info I had to the proper authorities and those who would listen. The rest is history – or will soon be…

 Scott-

Well i Thank you sir very much and wish you the best. thank you for more truths. 

[KC6TTR]

Well i Thank you sir very much and wish you the best. thank you for more truths. 

Thanks for the kind words of support.

Scott-

[bumpershot]

I do not want to derail this thread more than it usually gets ...

This is pretty on-topic stuff. If anything, it's re-railing it.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

Last night I spent $240 today $280 =$520 now have an account at Zenhash that would have set me back over $10K in December What a firesale they are having

WOW! Way to go Mr. Buffet! With any luck that astute investment will be worth at least $100 a month from now!  

Be worth more than your welfare anyway,at least I can afford to throw money about at longshots

You are a complete moron and the personal attack for no apparent reason makes you a complete asshole on top of it. Exactly how do you know how much money anyone has to throw around? The fact that you chose to throw your money at a ponzi/scam in the last dying days and brag about it makes you one of the dumbest mother fuckers in this thread. I hope you throw more money at it and lose every last cent which will inevitably happen unless you can find a bigger sucker than yourself to unload it on.

one of the few times I will agree with everything you said

Fair enough and just so you know I agree with a lot of things you have to say.

LMFAO. You could not possibly have posted anything funnier. That is exactly my kind of humor.

[Paul Revere]

LMFAO. You could not possibly have posted anything funnier. That is exactly my kind of humor.

Hey, Neat!

[bitcoinnoisseur]

LMFAO. You could not possibly have posted anything funnier. That is exactly my kind of humor.

http://www.movpins.com/big/MV5BMTgwODAzOTk1OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTI4MDUzMw/still-of-john-c.-reilly,-tim-meadows,-matt-besser-and-chris-parnell-in-walk-hard:-the-dewey-cox-story-(2007)-large-picture.jpg

Hey, Neat!

I don't get that reference.

[Paul Revere]

Damn. Sorry bitcoinnoiseur. I did not mean to offend you with a hard to understand cultural reference regarding the same actor with whom you identified with as being "exactly your kind of humor" in the previous post. I will make an effort to keep my replies  easier to grasp in the future.

Walk Hard, Bro!

[bitcoinnoisseur]

Damn. Sorry bitcoinnoiseur. I did not mean to offend you with a hard to understand cultural reference regarding the same actor with whom you identified with as being "exactly your kind of humor" in the previous post. I will make an effort to keep my replies  easier to grasp in the future.

Walk Hard, Bro!

1 - I never identified any actor whatsoever. I identified with the humor.
2 - So if you were to post anything with either actor than that would automatiucally be relevant?
3 - You actually believe that Dewey Cox is a cultural reference? Never heard of it and I'm sure neither has 99% of America.
4 - I guess the old adage is true. Simple things amuse simple people.

THINK MUCH BEFORE YOU ACT?

[CryptoGoat]

    Wednesday 18 Feb 2015

Hashlet End of Life Announcement

It’s been given quite a bit of thought. The research has been ongoing. Market conditions continually observed, performing a great deal of analysis. Customer have been heard, many of who are wondering what they can do with their Hashlets.

What’s been discovered is as many other cloud mining providers have seen, the decline in bitcoin price, a lack of mining profitability and a high cost of maintenance, it will be necessary to terminate the Hashlet Program. Though there exists a desire to keep it alive, conditions simply will not support that goal.

This will not happen immediately. It’s imperative that ample notice be given that the Program end date is imminent. While no date has been specified, yet, rest assured that when known, notification will be provided.

The mining industry is quite volatile. However, GAW Miners has always developed a way to create success for Hashlet customers. This time will be no different!

While the Hashlet program will end, the creation of three options has been developed to ensure terms are met and customers are satisfied. The three options are:

    There will be a period of time where there will be a conversion opportunity. This will allow Hashlets to be converted to HashStakers with the goal of continued profitability. As is widely known, HashStakers are time based, so notification will be provided on how long the HashStaker program will last before it expires, before the conversion takes place.

    A HashStaker Marketplace will be created where HashStakers may be bought or sold.

    GAW Miners is forming a partnership with a new, next generation and cutting edge cloud-mining platform. Should a decision be made to leave a Hashlet in its current form, it will be automatically converted to a voucher, equal to customers’ original purchase price that will be redeemable in the new platform.

According to Jonah Dorman, Interim CEO of Business Technology for Cryptocurrency, “we are providing an opportunity for our customers to remain ahead when volatile market conditions exist, convert their inactive Hashlets and if desired, successfully exit the Program.”


** edit to add link from GAW
  -- https://blog.paybase.com/hashlet-end-of-life-announcement/

[alienesb]

   Wednesday 18 Feb 2015

Hashlet End of Life Announcement

It’s been given quite a bit of thought. The research has been ongoing. Market conditions continually observed, performing a great deal of analysis. Customer have been heard, many of who are wondering what they can do with their Hashlets.

What’s been discovered is as many other cloud mining providers have seen, the decline in bitcoin price, a lack of mining profitability and a high cost of maintenance, it will be necessary to terminate the Hashlet Program. Though there exists a desire to keep it alive, conditions simply will not support that goal.

This will not happen immediately. It’s imperative that ample notice be given that the Program end date is imminent. While no date has been specified, yet, rest assured that when known, notification will be provided.

The mining industry is quite volatile. However, GAW Miners has always developed a way to create success for Hashlet customers. This time will be no different!

While the Hashlet program will end, the creation of three options has been developed to ensure terms are met and customers are satisfied. The three options are:

    There will be a period of time where there will be a conversion opportunity. This will allow Hashlets to be converted to HashStakers with the goal of continued profitability. As is widely known, HashStakers are time based, so notification will be provided on how long the HashStaker program will last before it expires, before the conversion takes place.

    A HashStaker Marketplace will be created where HashStakers may be bought or sold.

    GAW Miners is forming a partnership with a new, next generation and cutting edge cloud-mining platform. Should a decision be made to leave a Hashlet in its current form, it will be automatically converted to a voucher, equal to customers’ original purchase price that will be redeemable in the new platform.

According to Jonah Dorman, Interim CEO of Business Technology for Cryptocurrency, “we are providing an opportunity for our customers to remain ahead when volatile market conditions exist, convert their inactive Hashlets and if desired, successfully exit the Program.”


** edit to add link from GAW
  -- https://blog.paybase.com/hashlet-end-of-life-announcement/

Just lol

[strangerdanger101]

A HashStaker Marketplace will be created where HashStakers may be bought or sold.

GAW Miners is forming a partnership with a new, next generation and cutting edge cloud-mining platform. Should a decision be made to leave a Hashlet in its current form, it will be automatically converted to a voucher, equal to customers’ original purchase price that will be redeemable in the new platform.

So they will leave the market open where people can buy/sell .png imgaes (now coupons) based on speculation as to what their next ponzi idea will be while gaw continues to collect transaction fees on these market sales.