If we are really considering this, I would like to see a standard pool like altcoin.us. The nomp/MPOS style pools hide many of the critical stats and many of them payout after many hours of mining and then pay every few hours after that. I dont know what they call it, but the style that altcoin.us uses pays out about every 2-3 minutes, and is VERY transparent, and ALL stats are displayed.
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NOMP and MPOS are different systems. NOMP is a pretty good stratum engine, but it's front end straight blows. altcoinpool.us is unmodified MPOS. I prefer the older skin, but aside from that, it's the exact pool I would build. I think you got the two confused because a lot of MPOS pools run NOMP as the stratum. It unfortunately doesn't work well with TEK, or I would too. It's ridiculously easy to add coins to it, and stratum-mining is a picky bitch to set up. Plus it only takes one instance of NOMP to run multiple coins. If the front end wasn't so lousy, I think it would dominate. but until somebody rectifies it's shortcomings, MPOS will continue to be the default pool package. It's relatively easy to set up (once you've done it a few times  ) and stable. I can't prove it without asking, but I'm guessing that altcoinpool.us is running ahmed bodi's or crypto-expert stratum, as both work with TEK. Im running Ahmed Bodi's stratum. Bob. Thought so. Crypto-expert works too, if you care. I think the one you're using is about the best for TEK, from my own experiments. |
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If we are really considering this, I would like to see a standard pool like altcoin.us. The nomp/MPOS style pools hide many of the critical stats and many of them payout after many hours of mining and then pay every few hours after that. I dont know what they call it, but the style that altcoin.us uses pays out about every 2-3 minutes, and is VERY transparent, and ALL stats are displayed.
Vegas
NOMP and MPOS are different systems. NOMP is a pretty good stratum engine, but it's front end straight blows. altcoinpool.us is unmodified MPOS. I prefer the older skin, but aside from that, it's the exact pool I would build. I think you got the two confused because a lot of MPOS pools run NOMP as the stratum. It unfortunately doesn't work well with TEK, or I would too. It's ridiculously easy to add coins to it, and stratum-mining is a picky bitch to set up. Plus it only takes one instance of NOMP to run multiple coins. If the front end wasn't so lousy, I think it would dominate. but until somebody rectifies it's shortcomings, MPOS will continue to be the default pool package. It's relatively easy to set up (once you've done it a few times ) and stable. I can't prove it without asking, but I'm guessing that altcoinpool.us is running ahmed bodi's or crypto-expert stratum, as both work with TEK. |
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Hey Biomech, am I right in assuming that shared HostGator type hosting would not be any good for hosting a mining pool?
Am I right in thinking that it would need to at least be VPS and even then that would be at push?
Or am I completely wrong?
Thanks in advance.
A VPS is fine for a single pool. They're a bit processor intensive, and of course bandwidth has to be decent. Not huge, but decent. But it's really only running stratum and the coin daemon, the php stuff is pretty ligthweight. I've run a test pool on an Amazon EC2 microinstance, which ain't much, and it worked ok. |
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@Thundertoe, youve got it right. Fk em. Their loss. I think the reason many wanted a multipool was out of frustration with the regular pools not working. Im not fudding here, but there was a time right before the multipool were none of the regular pools worked. People , like myself wanted to mine tek and couldnt. However, tek has been running better than ever now. I think it would be in your best interest to have an official "tekcoin pool". I have been mining at altcoinpool.us for weeks, and its FLAWLESS. So maybe if you dont want to start an official pool from scratch, perhaps have a chat with altcoinpool.us and see whats involved in making them the official tekcoin pool with official logos. Altcoinpool.us has the fastest payouts, about every few minutes, and NEVER have orphans. If they dont want to be the official pool , would they be interested in creating the official pool for either a flat price or maybe .05% of total mined? Besides , anyone thats been around long enough knows you cant kill tekcoin  Vegas If someone can come up with hosting, I can set up a TEK pool under MPOS with little trouble. I've done it several times for testing, I know which variant of stratum works (TEK is very picky) and the rest of it is pretty routine. If anyone is interested, I can do this. It's probably only a couple hours of setup time, not including syncing the daemon. |
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I've learnt that nefarious vendors could easily read which lottery thickets are winners via phase-contrast tomography, purchasing them for themselves, and selling only the losing or lower-winning ones.
Hey, it's better than it used to be. In the 80's, I could do it with a strong flashlight. |
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I kind of feel like a dork because I am super stoked about the first stake I will get on my pi. Most likely because I actually had to do some work to get it working instead of double clicking on an icon and then boom, having it work.
I still get a thrill out of it, and I'm just running a linux QT wallet. No shame, dude, it's a fun game. |
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22 days left to the block halving  The last block halving didn't do much. What's the subsidy gonna drop to now? Wish the devs would just kill the inflation and dilution now and get the show on the road. This will be the first block halving. |
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Not being a programmer, I could be totally wrong here, but I thought that in many coins with checkpointing, it's simply a flag set in the blockchain every so often. I know that peercoin used central checkpointing for a while, but then dropped it in favor of a revised system that depended on live nodes rather than any central checkpointing mechanism. Am I wrong in this?
As for NXT, other than being a cast iron bitch to set up a NXT daemon, I have no opinion on it.
checkpointing a cryptocurrency is believed to be centralized because for the checkpoint to have any effect (different than what the normal consensus would have come up with) it would have to be created by a group of people other than the original consensus group, most of the time this is the developers, so the coin with checkpoints would be centralized around the group of developers. a good resource: links.org/files/decentralised-currencies.pdf (newbie here so probably wont show up) Thanks, I'll check that out. My knowledge continues to evolve due to people like you  |
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please spare your dog. kick yourseld instead. and I will kick myself Wohoooo. Payday! 0.01+ btc. 10 more years to recover my 50 btc.
Thank you PbMining for recovery program. I'm going to kick my dog now.
Yeah, I'm on that train too  Really hoped they'd pull it out and NOT be another scam. |
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Not being a programmer, I could be totally wrong here, but I thought that in many coins with checkpointing, it's simply a flag set in the blockchain every so often. I know that peercoin used central checkpointing for a while, but then dropped it in favor of a revised system that depended on live nodes rather than any central checkpointing mechanism. Am I wrong in this?
As for NXT, other than being a cast iron bitch to set up a NXT daemon, I have no opinion on it.
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I don't know if it is just me thinking this but it appears that my wallet on my Pi is downloading the blockchain much better (less getting stuck on blocks) when I have the original theme selected. It could just be a coincidence but it hasn't gotten stuck on a single block since I switched over to it two hours ago. The hyperblue theme seems like it would get stuck every 45 minutes to an hour.
This is likely coincidence. Early blocks get stuck a lot, part of the carryover from Truckcoin. To my knowledge, the themes have absolutely nothing to do with the code that handles the actual mechanics of the coin, but if they ARE interfering, it would be good to know, and to kill the bug. |
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When someone deletes my posts, I fight back; freedom of speech and I will fight that right to the death. So I downloaded a wallet from their website then mined from my address about a week ago. After two pools and two payments later, I still don't have my 200+ mined coins. When I confront them about it, they want me to jump through hoops and tamper with the wallet itself. I like to download something and have it work, not have to play computer mechanic and try things that MIGHT work. Maybe it's me who's a quality-service-nazi but if the only component you need needs a doctor, ain't worth my precious time. Now they delete stuff from their threads so here I will post since, well, fuck you, that's why, don't delete shit on me. Deleted Post
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My wallet is broken or some such bullshit.
Mined a few hundred coins, pools sent payment but 2 days later, no show.
I read that it could be that I am on a different chain... after 2 pools, same address, both sent a payment neither showed up.
Here's my wallet address: BnP7MHFkeCp4JLLpoe4oapaiLc5mkq56GV
How do I get on the normal chain??
go into the directory that contains your wallet.dat file, make a copy of wallet.dat for safety, then delete everything BUT wallet.dat and tekcoin.conf.
Restart the client. Let it sync. Make sure you are using the most current version, as it has built in checkpointing. There is a bootstrap listed in the op that will speed the process somewhat. In any case, it will take from two hours to two days to sync up, but it will be on the right fork.
I downloaded the wallet a few days ago, one would think it's a simple fix but it's not.
One would think the right wallet is posted on the website, back in my days they were but it's not.
Just too much crap to deal with for fuck all; other hassle-free coins I can mine.
That said, this currency will fail if the wallet needs that much screwing around to get working, no regular joe will adopt it.
I'm just gonna cut my loss and call it a day and put this coin on my Shitlist instead.
Thanks anyways dude. So, there you have it, they are aware the wallet is faulty but aren't taking any steps to fix the problem in the future and deal with it at the source once and for all. They still distribute the bad one on heir site. For all it's worth, new miners to this coin should be aware of that fact before they point miners to them. Or you'll have to jump though hoops to get it going. I've seen miners in other threads complaining about the same issue. It's not just me so, who's in this position but likely the only one with a big enough mouth. I want to warn others so if I can save a few aggravations to innocent un-suspecting people. There's always some who don't mind the screwing around but there's others things I'd rather do. I'm sure it's working for many but out of the dozen coins I regularly mine, this wallet is one of the faulty ones. Too me, it's just too many red flags in one day with one inconvenience. Maybe others will share their experiences too, I am sharing mine so take of it what you will. Take it for what it is, my experience... I'm also the type of guy who demands perfect products, not poor excuses. Mine DEM instead if you want a staking coin, the wallet is solid. Just my opinion as a miner. Ok, since I'm quoted in this, I want to AGAIN make something clear. While I am a friend of the dev, I am NOT in any way part of the TEK development team, except from time to time they ask me to help with testing when changes are made. I was in on that with the last round of problems, so I am quite well versed in how to fix the things that can break. I was just trying to be helpful. If it wasn't, you could have PM'd me or asked other tek heads. We would have helped you. TEK is one of the first, if not the first, of the high POS coins. It's often twitchy, but overall has worked good with minor hiccups and one major one throughout it's history. It is one of my two favorite coins, and I find your allegations baseless, and frankly, insulting. Thundertoe is not the world's greatest programmer, but the guy is always working on the damn coin. It has no premine, is fully open source, and no bullshit. This "warning" of yours is pure FUD. |
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My wallet is broken or some such bullshit.
Mined a few hundred coins, pools sent payment but 2 days later, no show.
I read that it could be that I am on a different chain... after 2 pools, same address, both sent a payment neither showed up.
Here's my wallet address: BnP7MHFkeCp4JLLpoe4oapaiLc5mkq56GV
How do I get on the normal chain??
go into the directory that contains your wallet.dat file, make a copy of wallet.dat for safety, then delete everything BUT wallet.dat and tekcoin.conf. Restart the client. Let it sync. Make sure you are using the most current version, as it has built in checkpointing. There is a bootstrap listed in the op that will speed the process somewhat. In any case, it will take from two hours to two days to sync up, but it will be on the right fork. |
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That means its an orphan block and won't be counted.
The coins will stake again
Is this something for which I should resynchronize my wallet from the bootstrap and .config file and then run the daemon to reload my wallet file? Seems like an error that shouldn't have happened, or am I wrong in that? -- Thanks PS. I'm new to POS coins and last month started mining four of them including TEK. Between them I've recently had a number of mintings, but this is my first encounter with this issue. orphans will restake its normal. Tekcoin PoS difficulty just now is 0.001 that is about 20%, so here is the choice mint now for lower % or try and wait a bit for PoS diff to decrease .0000x is 40% range. If you do wait, you not only can get higher rate % but you also get added coins for waiting over the min 30 days. Waiting longer can effect your compounding though so it does get a bit tricky. This is one of the reasons i really like to spread out my coins into daily stakes, it doesn't corner me into just one big decision. Thanks fellows, You mention waiting, how does one control that? Also, for each of my POS coins, I simply downloaded and ran the wallet installs to the desired directory (same as my POW wallets), I only create a .conf file ("addnode=" commands) if a fork problem occurs and I have to resynchronize. What is the purpose of the special .conf commands I run across for POS -- such as: listen=1 daemon=1 server=1 rpcuser=user rpcpassword=pass rpcallowip=127.0.0.1 Actually, all of those are generic to Bitcoin and it's successors. There are some specific RPC commands, but that's another story. But these that you listed are very standard, and they do the following: Listen =<1/0> tells the client to listen to the network for RPC calls daemon =<1/0> tells the client to stay resident when not in the foreground in the case of tekcoind or to act like a daemon (background program) if using the QT version Server =1 allows it to act as a server (a node) and is also necessary to act on RPC calls. rpcuser is the username that is needed to execute RPC calls. rpcpassword is the password needed to execute RPC calls rcpallowip restricts what IP can connect and issue/receive data for and from RPC calls. Most of this stuff is for API access using third party software. It can be very useful! Hope this helps you. |
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The whole point of crypto-coins is that they are safe from doublespend. If someone shows that they aren't, then he is doing a service to the cryptocurrency industry.
Crypto is still in early days. We are building bridges, and it's better for someone to stress test the bridges before they are declared safe for the general population. If these bridges are unsafe, I want to know now (even if I lose some money).
You'll notice that many who are invested in PoS coins want attacks to be attempted. Better it happen out in the open now rather than in secret in the future.
Also, his attacks don't seem to be destroying coins, just showing they aren't safe. No reason coins couldn't shore up their defenses after the attack, and come back stronger.
I agree with what you are saying. However, from reading his posts it doesn't seem like he is actually trying to be helpful. It seems more like a "look what I can do" kind of thing. Did the Apexcoin community, whatever there is of it, ask him to attack them? He supposedly successfully attacked Apexcoin, and now the crypto world knows there is a vulnerability in POS. Is there really a need to continue any further attacks? Attack all the dead coins you want, but leave legitimate coins alone. Because a guy does something for his own reasons don't necessarily make it without merit on its own. I agree with you on his apparent motives, but as a POS afficionado, I'd still encourage guys like this because if they can do it, it shows a vulnerability that needs fixing. |
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I have a question for the community: is there any interest in having a resource to buy or sell HBN directly for fiat?
In my opinion, something like that would be great but given the relatively low volume on our main exchange Cryptsy, I doubt it would be beneficial.
I have a question for the community: is there any interest in having a resource to buy or sell HBN directly for fiat?
To me anything that can help spread the word, and create additional liquidity for HBN is a good thing. Having said that, I also agree with PressF1, the volume may or may not be there to support the additional market. But as always if someone is willing to put in the resources to make it happen, I will do whatever I can to help. We at EMC2 are considering it for our coin, my thought is to also consider it for a few other coins too, coins that are appear to be relatively stable and reliable. Obviously price isn't the sole factor to determine stability. For now I'm sending out the feelers to gauge overall demand, thanks for the responses they are helpful. I think I have to disagree with PressF1 and Tranz, and that don't happen very often. But frankly, what holds all alts down right now is that they are linked to BTC, often solely, and with little way of exit. Links to Fiat has multiple good points, not the least of which is that it decouples that link between HBN and BTC. BTC is hardly the best Crypto, it's just the gatekeeper. I would be quite supportive of such a thing, if it's done well and transparently. |
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So getting back to the discussion as Bitcoin hits $197,
Folks have to realize that there is a dollar amount (unknown to me) that when Bitcoin hits it,
will make mining for .....
EVERYONE
a losing proposition and when it takes 100TH to create 1BTC a day
Lets use easy math.
1TH miner takes 1000 Watts to run per day, 100 of them take 100,000 watts.
Power is 10 cents a Kwh, 100,000 watts per day (24 hours) costs $240 a day
BTC is $197, to make one you have to spend $240 a day (not counting the cost of the miner)
So its a losing proposition already.
So you solo mine and get a little luckier perhaps.
but at this point we should be plateauing right now.
It appears to be plateauing somewhat at the moment. Interesting times to be sure. |
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It's called "Advice" just like you get on TV about your stock investments.
Take it or leave it.
I don't have to engage in an argument, my position is being underlined every day.
Am I happy its going down? No.
Did I prepare for it going down: Yes
Well put. I'm on both sides of this argument. I think that long term, digital currencies are the wave of monetary future. Fiat currencies always fail, due to the simple fact that central banks can inflate at will, and frequently do so to cover their own tracks or attempt to mitigate against the stupidity of governments. It never works in the long term, but it does "wonders" in the short term. Digital currencies, by contrast, inflate at a very controlled and largely unmanipulable manner. This makes them a better vehicle for finance in many ways. Also, their quick settlement period will make them attractive to financiers and businesses alike, once third party processing becomes prevalent. And yes, I do realize that removes the "trustless" paradigm for day to day purchases, but that is necessary if BTC or other digital currencies are to break into the mainstream. The average purchaser does not give a damn that his VISA card actually doesn't settle for 14 days, but he does give a damn that his bitcoin transaction takes an hour to be confirmed. With something like a VISA for BTC, that would change, as settlements up the line are cheaper and faster. Fundamentally, you are correct. But the main point all bitcoiners seem to be in grand dilliusion with...is thinking somehow BITCOIN will become the currency of the future. No. The crypto technology in itself may be the future, but anyone thinking any government would just let a blockchain ran by faceless miners (who also reap the fees) become the world currency, are seriously sniffing the paint fumes. The government has, can, and always will control money. So yes, the crypto technology itself may have a bright future. But rest assured, the government will be the one creating their own (most notably, the US government), which would mean all alts including bitcoin would either take a huge hit or eventually fade away into obscurity. Governments have not always controlled the money. they've always TRIED, but it has varied throughout history. That being said, you're probably right as to BTC not being the world's currency. However, I think that block chain based currency is likely where money will go, regardless of who issues the starting wallet. I think BTC will be around and a useful player for a long time to come, but it is largely because it was first. I think it likely that governments will start to use blockchain currency because it at least gives an illusion of control to the masses, and I think that alternates such as BTC will continue to exist and maybe even supplant many governmental currencies. I could also see the governments (yes, particular the US) adopting (read co-opting) an existing blockchain based currency. Again, I don't think it would be bitcoin, as it's unit is too large and people in general are not going to want to deal with 8 decimal places. |
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welcome to linux! lol a conf shouldn't affect your connections, are you sure thats the issue? [edit] to add to this, if you are still having connection issues, you can add a few nodes to your conf from here: http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/peerinfoI just assume it was the conf file. I left it on for a few hours while I went to work last night and when I got home it still didn't have any actual connections to the network. I added a few nodes. We will see if that helps. Does the rcpuser and password field make a difference as to what is actually entered into them? Only if you are making rpc calls. Otherwise, no, they don't make a difference. |
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But does matter at selling  selling and dumping are quite different. If the miners had the mentality of "it's going to be the currency of the future" we would not see these prices. |
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