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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: June 26, 2023, 05:39:52 PM
Gamblers who can't control themselves will keep playing until they really run out of money

If only. The ones with serious gambling addiction won't stop even at that. When they run out of money they'd often choose to go into debt, pawn their car or other items, borrow from family, or even steal from the close ones.
It's a serious condition and I find it hard to have any sort of respect for a business that would try to capitalise on that.

But if gamblers are more focused on having fun then any win will be considered a bonus because according to them satisfaction and pleasure are their main goals for playing gambling, the fact is that people like that don't care about experiencing any defeat as long as they can still control it, everything will definitely be fine.  Wink

That's a different category, those who only visit casino during a night-out with friends are probably safe from any life-changing losses, but there are also a lot of people, often elderly pensioners, who visit casinos as they have no real alternatives for having "fun". That's pretty sad really.
1302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newbie Crypto Advice on: June 26, 2023, 05:29:44 PM
Hello I am looking to invest my 20,000 dollars for retirement but I don't know the best crypto for me to put into to save myself from inflation. I'm 64 years old and don't have the time to learn the ins and outs of this crypto stuff so if anyone can give me advice I would appreciate it.
You can contact me through the forum or via email I appreciate the help

Hopefully that $20k is not your entire retirement pool, if it is, crypto won't save you. But if it's just an amount you're hoping to put into something more risky (high risk - high reward), I'd probably still go with Bitcoin. Historically speaking it is outperforming the rest of the crypto long-term, of course you won't be able to make x1,000 as in the past, but picking up other crypto that could yield you that much is close to impossible.
I wouldn't view Bitcoin as a safe haven protecting you from inflation. It still should be considered as a high risk asset, as its price is largely driven by news and actions of regulatory bodies, which is not something that can be easily predicted.
1303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As a merchant, what percentage do you afford to lose on fees? on: June 26, 2023, 05:21:08 PM
Although those risks are always present they have been exacerbated in the last months, it's not nice losing 10-20% of the profits on fees,  I'm wondering how the others are coping!?!
- Do you take a hit not to lose trusted old time customers? Keep them happy even if you're doing basically for free?
- Dropping everything that will earn you less than cleaning windshields ?
- Argue and try to force your customers to use a different coin?
- Go for centralized solutions?

I don't get it. If you sell goods, it would be the buyer who would get hit by high tx fees, not necessarily you. So why would you drop selling any low value items? If customers are happy to buy them regardless of the extra costs, let them. On your end, you should make it easier for them to accept payments via lightning network.
Even if you're acting as an intermediary, and have to make purchases with BTC and pay fees, you could still ask/pressure sellers to start accepting LN payments, it's in their best interest so shouldn't be that hard.
1304  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2023-06-10] Forbes: ‘Bloodbath’—Sudden $1 Trillion Crypto Crash Sparks Fresh... on: June 26, 2023, 04:59:56 PM
Yes.  The more people that are forced to use crypto the stronger it gets and eventually there will be the ability to not have to get out of it.  Just like in the EU you don't need to get out of the euro.  Or the dollar in the US. etc.  There will be no or little need for an on/off ramp for bitcoin, you will just use it like you would other currency except that you won't fear 149% inflation as in Argentina or high inflation like the US or EU have been experiencing.   And you won't lose half the purchasing power of your money over 20 or 30 years.

I wish that was true, but it's simply not. The difference between fiats and Bitcoin is that you have to use the former to pay taxes, bills, or make large purchases (i.e. house). If Bitcoin is declared illegal by entire developed world, it will be practically unusable. Sure you could participate in an alternative economy, risk penalties to make some small purchases, but you won't be able to use it for any significant transactions.
Even the the use of the Euro in the form of cash gets crippled constantly with more and more restrictions i.e. on the maximum cash transactions and limited cash withdrawals options.
1305  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [RAFFLE] Utopia - P2P Ecosystem | Free Bitcoin Raffle Weekly 💎 Round 17 on: June 25, 2023, 11:10:26 PM
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1306  Economy / Gambling / Re: Using ToS against users normal? on: June 23, 2023, 10:33:15 PM
But that's what I do. After all, I do it maybe once every two weeks or once a month, just to ensure nothing changes. Well, I don't gamble much, so I have a lot of free time to read or browse the site to find great deals. Stake.com did it a while ago and activated a small window that would pop up, notifying them that something had changed in their change. You can check @Coin_trader replied.

That's very nice of them, but that's not what I asked. I asked if they obliged themselves to notify you of any changes. If not, you can't rely on notifications alone, and, to be consistent with your approach, you'd have to read the ToS (or at least check for changes) each time you log in.

How could a real gambler not take the time to read his TOS? Or is this what happens with the many complaints of people who have hundreds or thousands of dollars in balances in their accounts but are suddenly blocked due to violations?

Define 'real gambler'. I feel we have a different idea of what this means.
Can you post a single example of anyone being locked out of hundreds of thousands, which could've been prevented if they had read the ToS? Have you ever seen a ToS saying "we can lock you out of your funds permanently"? Usually the wording is pretty vague and can be interpreted in many ways.

What really protects you when playing gambling is just playing with the money you can afford.

How is losing money I can afford to lose protecting me from losing money? It just makes losing less painful.

Stake.com has done that a while back. And they ask us to read it because it's important that we don't break it. So reading the TOS is recommended even though many gamblers don't like to read the TOS because it's too long.

People don't read them not only because their long, but also because every single service will give themselves a right to change them at any time, so it's kind of pointless. And if the casino operates in your jurisdiction, in a way you could take legal action against them if they misbehave, then the law would usually provide you a decent protection.
1307  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hold Bitcoin VS Hold Gold on: June 23, 2023, 10:06:25 PM
A better plan is to invest in multiple assets rather than depending on just one thing. Because in this case, if one is lost, the other will back it up. Meanwhile, although Bitcoin investment is risky, investing in gold is completely risk free. Because the price of gold has been constantly increasing in the last ten years. even if the price of Bitcoin increases a lot, there are occasional major crashes.  But this is not seen in gold. So it is better to invest in both Bitcoin and Gold

Nothing is risk-free and neither is gold. Even know I'm rather bullish on gold, I could imagine various scenarios where it falls from investors' favour.
And when you consider the profitability of investment, you cannot ignore inflation. After all, you invest to retain or increase the real value of your portfolio.

Looking at the inflation-adjusted gold price, you can see that it took almost 3 decades for it to return to the previous (real) value.

1308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: would you play more on casino when your country plans to ban BTC? on: June 23, 2023, 09:52:25 PM
The decision for what to do with the coins after crypto trading has been banned, either to gamble with it to try to get more or just withdraw and keep will be determined by my ability in gambling. Since I know that I am not a good gambler, and do not have any winning certainty, deciding to want to still go ahead to gamble means I just want to waste that money. My desire is to make more money from what I have, gambling is not the only way to achieve this, so I will withdraw the money and find other ways to multiply the money, or just decide to keep holding the Bitcoins until they increase and my country becomes less against Bitcoins.

There's no such thing as a good gambler Grin Mabe with the exception of those who engage in gambling activities only when they spot an opportunity when the advantage is on their side (but those are rare).
Gambling by definition is a way of losing money, not a way of accumulation, so the OP's question is pretty daft.
1309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: June 23, 2023, 09:41:13 PM
Logically holding coins that have a large marketcap is of course safer than holding new projects, as investors of course we understand this strategy, for security of course holding top 10 rankings is a safe and profitable option, but we have to be patient and wait a long time to be able to get profit when we hold the top 10 ranking.

By that logic, isn't holding top 5 a better option than holding top 10. And top 3 better than top 5? And top 1 better than top 3?

Again, holding BTC only was so far more profitable than top 10 and that's not even including losses on rebalancing of the portfolio, which are greater when there is a lot of action/changes in the top 10.
1310  Local / Polski / Re: Ogólne rozmowy na temat kampanii sygnatur on: June 23, 2023, 09:26:46 PM
Może i masz rację. Pisząc o luce podatkowej zasugerowałem się postem adama, kory napisał że "podatek jest tylko od wymiany na fiat" i zapomniałem że wymiana na dobra i usługi też jest zdarzeniem podatkowym.
W takim przypadku, system wydaje się być bardziej szczelny, choś i tu znajdzie się okazja do zakombinowania i zapłacenia niższego podatku niż przy akceptacji jedynie PLNów, np sprzedawznie tak żeby nie przekroczyć progu podatkowego i przenoszenie zysków na przyszła lata.

I też nie jest do końca prawdą że podatek od krypto płaci się tylko przy wymianie na fiat/dora/usługi, bo darowizny w krypto też są opodatkowane, czyli jednak dla fiskusa to niekoniecznie nic nie warte paciorki.

https://www.ifirma.pl/blog/darowizna-kryptowaluty-czy-trzeba-placic-podatek.html
1311  Local / Polski / Re: Ogólne rozmowy na temat kampanii sygnatur on: June 22, 2023, 04:44:11 PM
to zalezy w jakim kraju, w pl poki co podatek jest tylko od wymiany na fiat

Jak pisalem wczesniej, nie wydaje mi sie to prawda. Ciezko mi uwiezyc ze prowadzac np dzialanosc gospodarcza i akceptujac tylko BTC, bylbys zwolniony z obowiazku rozlicznia i placenia podatku. To by powodowalo olbrzymia luke podatkowa i akceptacja BTC pewnie przewyzszylaby PLN.

ps. czemu nie aplikujesz do zadnej kampanii (wg sygnatury takowej szukasz)? Pojawilo sie ostatnio kilka ciekawych.
1312  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: SEC vs Binance on: June 22, 2023, 04:36:57 PM

Someone on our local board posted a question on whether or not Binance will be in position to counter-sue SEC i.e. for defamation and reputational losses given SEC allegedly made a serious of accusations without any real evidence.
Anyone heard of any case where SEC got sued for something like that and lost?

I'd imagine, if that's a possibility at all, Binance would have to have all the charges officially dropped by the court first, but I'm just guessing.
1313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: June 22, 2023, 04:26:25 PM
I absolutely agree with you. Martingale strategy is one of the best strategies to confuse the gambler and convince him that he can use it to beat the casino.

It 100% works. You "only" need an infinite amount of money, time and a game with no bet limits  Grin

In fact, none of the strategies in the long term will not work in favor of the gambler, because mathematically the casino will always have an advantage, so learn to gamble for fun, not to win.

Not quite true. You could be hunting for opportunities when the advantage shifts to your side, e.g. large jack-pot cumulation, arbitrage betting or looking for bets with miscalculated odds. Those opportunities are not easy to come by, but they happen.
1314  Local / Polski / Re: Pospekulujmy o aktualnej i przyszłej cenie BTC. on: June 22, 2023, 04:18:23 PM
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Jak można, jako państwo albo poważna instytucja (SEC), pozywać bez dowodów? Aż się prosi o kontr pozew o zniesławienie.

Nie znam sie ale chyba to ze nie bylo dowodow na "dissipation of assets" (co rozumiem jako nielegalny odplyw funduszy) nie oznacza ze nie ma dowodow na inne nieprawidlowosci.

Mysle ze ewentualne szanse na kontr-pozew beda dopiero kiedy Binance wygra w sadzie, choc nie wiem czy maja ku temu przeslanki (znieslawienie), no chyba ze SEC wprost nazwal Binance przestepcami albo cos w tym stylu.
SEC pewnie chetnie zaplaci odszkodowanie bo to i tak z kieszeni podatnika  Grin

Dlaczego nikt tutaj nie napisal o BlackRock???

Czekalismy az ty napiszesz Smiley

No dobra, wrzuce chociaz linka
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-rally-30000-blackrock-etf-filing-101640858.html

Dobrze rozumiem ze, jezeli dostana zgode, to bedzie to pierwszy ETF oparty na czystym Bitcoinie, a nie spolkach crypto itp?
1315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is buying BTC now, the best option ??? on: June 22, 2023, 04:01:04 PM
The best strategy for success and getting maximum profit is to buy when it's cheap, many experts suggest to buy now before the price skyrocketed, and if we compare it with the highest price that has happened, of course the best option now is to continue to buy, the best time has come and don't ever ever forget it.

I don't think there's a single person here who doesn't know that buying cheap and selling at the top will make you profit. The real question of this thread is to predict where will the price go in the short to mid-term future. Will we see another cycle, similar to those we've seen in the past? Is it going to drop even further, or have we already seen the bottom? etc.
What makes you think now is a good time to buy, and do you buy with a lump sum, dca or have other strategy?
1316  Economy / Gambling / Re: Using ToS against users normal? on: June 22, 2023, 03:48:42 PM
I do it myself, but since I don't gamble too much, I don't need it because I only gamble for fun and not for the pursuit of winning. I don't need to read all the ToS of all services because I've seen several notifications sent to my email or when I log in to my account.

I find it hard to believe that you have actually read a full ToS of any gambling site, it doesn't make sense especially when you don't gamble too much. Why would you spend a chunk of your free time to read them if you only wanted to play a little bit? It does not add up.

Sure, sending notifications of any changes is a good practice, but did Stake.com actually obliged themselves (in the ToS) to send notifications of any changes? If not, you'd still have to read them everytime you log in, if you want to practice what you preach.

If you are a real gambler, you certainly don't want to get into trouble just for not reading the changes in the rules, do you?

If you're a real gambler, you'll take a gamble of not reading them  Grin
But seriously, as mentioned before, unless you're looking for a specific, nuanced information, reading ToS doesn't help much and does not guarantee you won't get in trouble, as those would almost always be worded in favour of the house, not the player. So what really protects you is either the law, or a hope that casino is genuine and will not engage in any shady practice out of a fear of losing reputation.
1317  Economy / Gambling / Re: Using ToS against users normal? on: June 21, 2023, 04:22:00 PM
How come it's a waste of time? It's worth doing to see if there is a change or you can also wait until there is notification from the casino about the change in the rules. Perhaps, once a month could be the time to read the rules. After all, it's for your own good rather than later regret because of a rule change.

Well, it's usually like that but we don't know what changes the casino will make. For this reason, we must try to find out for ourselves. If we have done KYC, it seems like everything will be fine, but who knows?

Do you actually do that yourself, or just decided it's a smart thing to preach to others? Do you actually dedicate a big chunk of your life to sit down and study all the ToSs of all the services that you use just to see if there have been any changes (do you run version compare in Word lol)?

Yes, reading entire ToSs is usually pointless, unless you want to learn about some specific rule that interests you, but for an average, regular user, that's not necessary and nobody does that in practice (yourself included).
1318  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A hilarious video that shows so many persons ignorance about bitcoin on: June 21, 2023, 04:13:51 PM
(...) and content creators need not create a video like this, all they want are views to monetize their content, they do not reflect the knowledge of the people in one's country about Bitcoin.

You can't blame them really. If certain content generates more views, and therefore more money, there will always be someone who would try to capitalise on that. So if we want content creators to stop producing garbage content - we need to stop consuming garbage content, and either start watching something valuable, or just switch off the tv (or other device). Simple as.
1319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: June 21, 2023, 04:06:40 PM
Well, one thing I am personally sure of is that, gambling is not trading, and can never be like trading, strategies work well in trading, in such a way that if at the end, the trade did not end in profit, the trader has the liberty to investigate his or her strategy to ascertain where exactly the mistake which caused the loss came from, but in gambling, there is no known or official strategy, what most of us assume to be a gambling strategy is not a strategy in real sense, but more like an assist, for example, many gambler mistake martingale to be a gambling strategy, but in real sense, it's not a strategy but an assist, martingale can assist a gambler to win more money, but does not add a single percentage to the gambler's chances of winning the bet in the first place.

Lets not re-invent words. Strategy is a broad term and could be roughly described as plan of action. As such martingale is a gambling strategy, because you'd be betting in a specific pattern (the plan). It's also widely described as a betting strategy, so I have no clue what are trying to achieve by attempting to change well established definitions.

Also, a strategy doesn't mean something good. There are a lot of bad strategies out there, martingale being one of them, and I think everyone in this thread knows that it is unlikely to help you win more money.
1320  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2023-06-20] Barron's: Bitcoin Rises as Its Dominance Across Cryptos Grows ... on: June 21, 2023, 03:50:52 PM
I think whatever is happening at any given moment, someone is going to claim it's a bad sign.  Controversy sells.  Whatever it takes to get someone to read whatever nonsense they're writing.

Well, in the world of trading, good news for one trader can be bad for another (zero sum game), depends on what positions do they hold.
In case of the article in question, it doesn't really explain why increasing BTC dominance is bad for Bitcoin, they're making a case for altcoins if anything, or for the crypto market viewed as a whole.
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