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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mental rehabilitation clinic. on: January 20, 2024, 04:21:34 PM
Getting helped for gambling addictions is one thing that comes with a lot of resistance and confrontation from the addict himself, and for that, if you want to help anyone in terms of help, it becomes very important to take note of the individual willingness to get helped from that addictions.


Because if the addict himself is not willing to get treated, it will becomes impossible for him to get treated even if there is a formal treatment clinic for his case, this is because he will develop a resistance against that treatment, but if he knows the effects of his addictions on his overall well being, he will then learn to adjust inline with the treatment so it an individual thing before third party help.
The majority of addicted gamblers are vengeful because they want to reverse their losses and also greedy because they want to win again even though they have already won. We must know that gambling addicts are not good, and should be avoided because negative things will impact us and become financially negative.

Even if you are already a gambling addict, I don't think you need to go to a clinic, doctor, and so on. You only need to get closer to your closest family and the environment around you because this way people can usually treat addiction, because there is no doctor's prescription for addiction, but to treat it there must be support from family and people you love.

Yes your statement has a point to this problem, all of this stems from their inability to accept the risk of losing at the beginning of their involvement in gambling and in addition to having a personality easily provoked by things that can upset them which in the end they act out of control such as chasing defeat to break even, This is a wrong idea and not recommended, those who chase defeat are someone who does not understand what gambling is really about, most likely they come only because they are tempted by the chances of winning so that they rule out the possibility of risks that clearly have a higher percentage than the chances of winning which happens in the end they enter the addiction phase.

Not everyone knows that addiction can come without them realizing it, and this is also one of the reasons why people don't accept being called an addicted gambler, they don't admit that their approach to gambling is wrong and too much, as I said above that this is because addiction can come without you realizing it. On the other hand, it is also true that a more effective way to overcome gambling addiction is to seek help from the closest people such as family or maybe a girlfriend or boyfriend, basically people who have a close relationship with the addict because usually people will be able to appreciate some advice if it comes from people they care about, and this has the potential to restore his consciousness because to get out of addiction requires recognition and willingness from the gambler himself if he wants to succeed.
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: January 20, 2024, 04:01:08 PM
It's a two-way street, gambling when they're awake and lying to them about what you're doing, which is not quite a lie though, he's actually playing a game. Or gamble when they're asleep and sacrifice your sleeping time for the sake of gambling. Many would go with the first option, as it's not a difficult task to tell the kid what we are doing, on the screen. Gambling is a game; the only difference is the amount of money we wager to play the game. People gamble in PlayStation games, it's still gambling and makes no changes, from the definition of what we have online. So, distracting the thoughts of the child is a smart move, but doing it moderately helps in stabilizing the curiosity of the child. Their brain is fast and remembers to some extent what we do and feel after playing the game.

A child may ask, dad why do you look so serious when playing the game, or your face looks sad whenever the game is over, why? These question as we may have it, came as a result of observation. If they watch you gamble, they'll master the facial reactions, and it wouldn't match with how they feel when playing a video game. The questions won't end, and we must be ready to keep on answering more query every day. I'd advise for the gambler to take it gradually, and gamble when the kids are not around us, as Dewi Aries said. The hardest aspect of it, is what we'd do, when the child wants to sit with us while playing the game. Kids can be worrisome, but we have nothing to do about it, then oblige to their numerous requests. You see it'll be wrong sharing same screen displaying a casino site, with a child. The child may begin to memorize what he's seeing on screen, and it's not conducive in my own view.

I think it's fine if you lie for the sake of something that leads to goodness because after all that's the best thing to do if indeed you are one of the fathers involved in gambling, and don't let you be careless in taking precautions so that your children's curiosity does not develop, plus it's clear as you said that a child usually has a sharp memory and also has a high enough sense of curiosity that this can make them find out what exactly you are doing and it is possible that they are involved in gambling without you realizing it. After all, as you said, there are still quite a lot of prevention options that we can do, one of which is in terms of dividing time, you can gamble at your children's bedtime or gamble in other places that are essentially far from your child's environment.

Well of course such a situation is also very likely to make a child become very curious about what exactly his father is doing, they will be very curious and then ask you some questions and if you always make the same mistakes in the sense of not paying too much attention to the importance of the prevention aspect then obviously the suspicion of a child will be more developed, so always keep this activity away from the environment and the view of a child if you really want the best for your child.

Those lies could help, but not forever. Sometimes humans forget what they said previously about a certain question. When that same question is repeated other times, weeks later, the recipient of the question may not give an answer that matches his previous answer, if he lied. The truth sticks to the brain, and we don't need to bother about fabricating something to say. They'll be nothing to lie about computerized objects moving in the screen. The child sees the avatars, and characters in the game. S/he may be wondering why daddy is seriously playing such games, that looks like it's meant for kids. Looking at it they know it's a game, why a grown adult is playing such a game.

Actually, the child may not be satisfied with the answer; truth or lies. So, they'll have to asks again some other times. When it doesn't correspond, the child may remind us of our previous answer, the lie didn't match. Creating more confusions. I think they'll should be more explanations to do, when in such a condition, a child being inquisitive of our gambling activity. Drawing an image, in the child's mind, of the quality and importance of the game, without mentioning gambling, that made you to engage in the game every day. Explanations makes confusing things clearer and brighter for a child. Let them see a reason. It will reduce the rate the child repeats his or her questions. While at it try diverging the discussion to other life situations and bringing it back to the main topic. With a good interpersonal skill, the gambler doesn't need to hide and play gambling. Unless the child distracts us from being attentive in the game, changing location will be fine.

I think fathers should pay full attention to this precaution, because if they really think that the future of a child is more important than anything else then I don't think they should forget something that should be done like diverting the answer to a question that a child asks you, but if a father always forgets to do this then I think there is another reason or they don't really care about their child. I don't think we need to go too far in making up things like this, because it is clear that the main point that a father should do is that they must keep gambling activities out of the sight of their children, there is no other reason because this is the best thing to do if they feel that the future of their children is far more important than anything else.

By doing this, it is clear that there will be no follow-up from other questions because a child will never again see your activities that are too serious in looking at the screen because you can really divide gambling time with time for a child. Usually a child will be easily distracted by other things they see, and that means that what you can do is take their attention away from gambling and divert it to other things that can make them feel happy, with this in my opinion it is less likely for them to ask you again about what they saw before, on the other hand you have also said this that the point is that parents must be able to distract a child.
1303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be a hope restorer if we go about it wisely! on: January 20, 2024, 03:40:40 PM
Gambling is good and can also restore person when your luck is actively shining because there are some people that would played over some years without them having just a little luck from it where they have lost all their money and whatever they used to gamble just to make winning comes through, in life what other people condemns might be something that would stirs up a life changing opportunities over the time of trying.

I think gambling is like something you have to do without putting any financial pressure into the game while gambling because I can easily picture out things inside of it, when gambling and you did it freely without attaching financial break though towards it then surely winning must come but when you all expect winning without the winning coming through you would feel very disappointed and start gambling with anxiety in order just to make winning for a day.
Gambling is fun and any time anyone gets lucky then it will look like they gave you free, that is when you are supposed to be able to control yourself before addiction sets in. because it is usually from the first win that everything starts turning if not proper controlled by settling limit and having a budget for gambling if not the sweetness it comes with will just drown you. and the issue of not winning a lot of people have experienced it and they continue to play gambling is not for everybody if you gamble and you won't win then the best thing is to let it go. if you gamble and you win it's good but also be careful at the same time while putting too much trust in gambling. and gambling with pressure is another way to get addicted because you see it as your ticket out of the situation.

This means that even if you come with the aim of seeking fun or entertainment that you think it will keep you safe and avoid addiction, self-control along with some other restrictions must be considered and applied, because after all gambling is an activity that can stimulate your brain and mind just because something looks like tempting, as you said that the first win is a situation that usually makes gamblers lose their minds a little and eventually change in terms of their perspective and mindset.

Not a few or even quite a lot of people who end up becoming addicted because they take the first win too seriously, this is also one of the reasons that addiction can come without you realizing it, and also on the other hand this can be used as a reason why people who are already addicted are difficult to overcome because they think they are doing something right, when clearly addiction is an excessive behavior due to the wrong mindset that ultimately makes them suffer from losing a lot of money. So the point remains that no matter what purpose you come to gambling, the point is that precautions must always be considered and applied, you will never know what will happen to your mindset next because addiction can come without you realizing it.
1304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: January 20, 2024, 03:20:25 PM


Yes that's right, in any case everything that is done in excess is always bad, not only in gambling but for all activities in our real life is also the same, such as one of them excessive diet then obviously you will feel full and it will be quite disturbing to you and the bad thing is that you will suffer from obesity. And of course especially if you overdo it in gambling activities that really have a high level of risk, if you always overdo the involvement because you are too focused on the chances of winning then believe me that way will only make you tormented and lose balance in terms of finances in the long run and if you can't stop it then obviously you will enter a situation of addiction where you can't miss a moment not to gamble.

Basically all that would be great to do if your habit leads to something more positive, but if your habit is basically gambling then obviously I can't imagine how bad the impact will be when you become a chronic addict. Therefore, from now on we must continue to try to apply the following limits along with good assertiveness because the fact is that addiction can come without you realizing it.
That is it, too much of everything is always bad and for that we all need to constantly continue to educate ourselves on the essence and important of too much gambling, because for sure it can effects everything around an individual and also forcing him to act or behaive in a way that the overall outcome may not be good for everyone around, this has always been the case with most gambling addict's, majority of them have overly been involved with excesive gambling and for sure, the outcome yave not being that good for the entire community.

This is why, we have being harmaring on the importance of of controlled gambling and gambling within a limited rules and guides.

Yes and one of the things that is more likely to be affected is our financial situation which will certainly be disrupted and you will lose balance in terms of financial strength, not only that because this also affects the people around us, and the scenario is that when you have excessive involvement in gambling then surely when you run out of money at least you will definitely think of borrowing as an alternative and surely you will borrow money from one of your closest people, and after that it is clear that this is the starting point for a new disaster to begin, you will not be so easy to repay the debt because when you have money then the main thing that comes to mind is gambling and finally the money is again used up in gambling.

Running out of money, experiencing mental and psychological pressure and also being in debt is an alarming combination for someone who will end up in a slump, not everyone can get through a situation like this and most of them usually end up with stress or depression due to not being able to withstand the pressure of a situation like this. Therefore, of course, as I said above, having the right understanding and also with a good level of awareness to implement various precautions is the main key to keep you safe.
1305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspects of online gambling on: January 20, 2024, 03:00:16 PM
Making friends with gamblers in a casino brings distraction.

It depends. Not everyone who make friend of you in a casino brings distraction to you. Some are making good advices and will give you tips on how to increase your chances in winning some games. However, the most common reason why people in a casino wants to make friend with you, is that they want to increase their connections and possibly widen their choices of people they want to beg to whenever one of their friends they made in a casino win big amount of money. This gives them another reason to stay in a casino even if they run out of money.

Yes, it really depends on yourself whether you feel disturbed or not, all this depends on your needs too if basically you need people to accompany your gambling then I think this will actually benefit you because you need their presence. On the other hand I think there is no problem to have friends in gambling activities, one of the possible things is as you said that maybe they can provide tips to increase the chances of winning even though this is still difficult to believe to actually be able to produce victory because after all, gambling cannot be fully predicted.

And the general reason is that you have also said that socialization relationships are one of the reasons why someone looks for fellow gamblers, maybe they want to share experiences or tell stories about the downturns they have experienced during their gambling, because this reason makes more sense.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: January 20, 2024, 02:17:46 PM
I think that for most people who understand gambling, knowing when to stop should be easy. When you are no longer having fun and aren’t getting the entertainment value you’re paying for, you should stop. Doesn’t matter if you’re up or down financially, the moment gambling becomes stale or boring, you should find something else to do. If you aren’t smiling, you’re losing.
Yes it is true that when a gambler does not find pleasure in gambling and finds gambling boring then he should abstain from gambling and stop all gambling activities. When this time will come only a gambler himself can understand. And when a gambler finds himself repeatedly losing gambling bets, he should stop himself from gambling permanently or temporarily and stop gambling altogether. But no matter how socially rehabilitated a gambler is, it will not be possible to stop him from gambling if he does not understand and stop himself.
Not all gamblers gamble for pleasure or to catch fun with the activity ND for this category of gamblers it's all about the money making and temporary quiting or a break is as though they are wasting away a period they could have been fortunate to get that big win that could transform their life. There's no stopping in their dictionary, fro them stopping because you're losing is attributed to being weak. Giving a rehabilitating support to this set of gamblers  is really tough.

Obviously, especially for those who have lost a lot, or we can also find out what exactly their goal is to come to gambling from how their financial situation is, if you have one of your friends who likes to gamble and then he has financial problems when he has entered gambling activities then I think we can already conclude that he has the wrong and inadvisable goals in his gambling activities so that bad effects come to them.

All this happens because they have the mindset that gambling is a place to earn, usually the first win is what makes them misunderstand what is meant by the chances of winning, the incredible sensation they get when they win completely changes their point of view and beliefs so that they put their hopes on the results at the end of the session, when someone has the wrong understanding and mindset on gambling then obviously there is no stopping or resting because as you said that they don't want to miss any opportunity and always think that luck will come so they continue to gamble to realize their wishes and I think they will only stop when the money is gone. Yes I understand it's very difficult to tell them that their approach is wrong and they always assume that what they are doing is right.
1307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: January 19, 2024, 08:52:34 PM
It's true that gambling is a game of chance, and relying on it for income can be risky. I understand how enticing the possibility of hitting the jackpot can be, but it's important to recognize the potential negative impact on one's life. If there's a way I can support you or if you ever want to talk about it, I'm here for you. It's always good to have open conversations about these things.
You have good intentions, help those who need consultation so that those who are too stressed no longer feel alone.

Being attracted by the expected jackpot and never winning it will make gamblers always hope, Even myself when playing gambling games, I always expect a jackpot but it never appears.

But when I raise the bet amount or bet higher it starts to appear but not the main one, But consciously I understand that this is a system game and has been set in such a way by the algorithm embedded in the game.

"Hope" is always the starting point of many problems, if you put hope in other things maybe yes, it doesn't matter but if you put hope in an activity that is probable in the sense that it has absolutely no certainty whatsoever then obviously this is ridiculous. Yes, I understand that one of the reasons why people have hope is because they see a chance of winning even with large amounts, on the other hand I recognize that everyone needs money and maybe this is one of the reasons why they take gambling too seriously so they have hope in it.

On the other hand we are human beings who have feelings and that means I admit that sometimes I also experience things like this in the sense that there are several sessions that I have passed by putting hope in the final result, I know it's wrong and not recommended but like humans who sometimes can't always help themselves when they see something tempting enough. And also another thing is that I hope we can always control our gambling activities properly and not do something that is beyond our limits and especially for beginners who have just come, because usually they come with the mindset of "earning" because of the chances of winning, only focusing on the chances of winning by ignoring the possibility of risk is the wrong point of view and must be corrected immediately.
1308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: January 19, 2024, 08:33:46 PM
        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

If there's someone who cares for them who can make them realize how much time and money that they already consuming from their gambling might help them to cope up and try to restart thier mindsets, I guess this follows the rules which self-will can be back up by those people who really aiming to help and trying to make sure that you are going to be fine when you try to resolve this kind of a situation while playing.

Being too deep into gambling can result to a much bigger problem, you need to re-assess everything once you have this kind of situation, it can develop awareness and good decision making when tough time already beside you, you just need someone to boost your will to process the right way.

But overall I honestly can't say that helping a gambler to change his approach to his gambling activities is an easy thing, this is very difficult to do because an addicted gambler already has a belief that they think is right, I understand that this is a good action to help an addict to get out of his wrong mindset in dealing with gambling, if you advise them too much to change their habits and beliefs in a better and logical direction then I think this will only make everything end in a fight, you will be considered as a person who is too interfering with other people's affairs.

On the other hand, of course I agree with your idea that getting too deep into gambling will only make us suffer more and get stuck in a cycle of downturn that will never end, but on the other hand I can't be sure that suggestions or some actions suggested by others can fully help a gambler to make changes and for this problem I believe that change or recovery will succeed if it is accompanied by a desire based on the gambler's own awareness.
1309  Economy / Gambling / Re: Slot Educational on: January 19, 2024, 08:12:26 PM

But is it useful?
I don't think so because many beginners don't care and don't really have the mindset to learn from experience.
Experience can be the best teacher for learning in finding or determining every decision that must be taken, but beginners are more dominant in thinking about maintaining their belief that betting more will increase their chances of winning.
This is one of those thoughts that will only lead to mistakes but it always happens.

In my opinion, it is clear that experience in gambling will only be useful to minimize defeat, which is for example you learn from many other people's experiences whether they are positive or  negative and about this experience of course you can only take something good, or that means you should not follow the bad experiences they have experienced and this is the point of learning from other people's experiences.

The point is that they can't take anything  from other people's experiences that lead to victory, because people manage to get victory only because the situation is really on their side, or that means they are lucky so they can get victory, we have to admit that gambling is a game of probability that has absolutely no certainty and guarantees of anything and this is what makes you can only learn something from other people's experiences so that you don't get caught in problems or situations like those they have experienced.

I think it is possible to learn from others in nearly anything in life. However, if something is pure chance, there is not that much to learn. For example, you cannot really learn to be a great player of Roulette, nor improve your game in Russian Roulette  Grin But in anything that has a learning curve, there is a lot to be known and learnt from others despite your own experience being also essential.

Of course, learning is a very good thing to do and on the other hand usually people are not too interested in doing this because it is boring but for some people who have the will for development then obviously they will definitely allocate a lot of time to study and as a result they manage to get awards like what usually happens in school when there is one person who becomes the best student because of his intelligence as a result of his willingness to learn. But on the other hand we must really be able to distinguish and be rational in responding to something,  if for example something they want to learn has absolutely no learning curve as you said in the sense that  there is no certainty that by doing it you will be able to succeed  then obviously it is not something worth learning, like winning in gambling which usually always depends on how lucky you are in the session you are doing.

Of course we must be able to  identify  everything rationally and see from various sides, and as I said earlier that what is more likely to be learned is the bad experiences of others because with that we will know what to  do and also what not to do, and it has been proven that by applying limits and good self-control then we can avoid the possibility of unexpected risks.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mental rehabilitation clinic. on: January 19, 2024, 07:51:47 PM
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But what gamblers who have entered the addiction phase don't think about is that they don't think that they are losing a lot of money in their gambling dedication to chasing that big win, they don't realize it and of course like you said that it's difficult for people to advise them because their mindset is already lost in the cycle of hope for victory so because they are so used to doing it, they feel that what they are doing is not wrong. ...........

If you only lose a certain amount of money, you can get that money back. However, gambling addicts will not only lose a certain amount of money, nor will they only experience one loss. Because apart from them losing financially, the valuable time they have that they cannot turn back will also be wasted. Likewise, the people who believe in him, the people who care and love him, will also disappear just because they are more concerned with gambling than the people around them. And as I said before, for a gambling addict, they will only realize it when they have lost everything, including family, property, work and relationships that they had.

Yes, if the amount of loss is not too big, perhaps it can still be replaced with winnings if they manage to get lucky in the next session, but if the loss is quite large then it will clearly be quite difficult to recover what has been lost in gambling. As we know, gambling is done many times and in the number of trials, the final result will not always be in accordance with what we want, in the sense that it means you lose and that loss will increase the number of losses you lost in the previous time and that is why don't expect break even point in gambling because the effort you put in will only make the amount you lose even bigger.

This is also the reason why many people suggest that if you want to get involved in gambling then try to bring an amount that you can afford because this will minimize your feelings of regret when you end up losing because you bring an amount that won't be a problem in the end. lost. Yes, that's true, actually there are many losses as a bad impact of gambling, not only losing money but we also lose time which perhaps if we used it for something else it could produce something useful. On the other hand, yes, I agree with your idea that there is nothing we can do because someone who is addicted is not easy to cure with just advice, as I said before, they have a mindset that they think is right even though in fact the opposite is true and yes as you said maybe they will be able to realize and recover from their addiction when they have exhausted everything, between being aware and recovering or ending up becoming crazy.
1311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: January 19, 2024, 07:22:20 PM
I think this is true when our kids grow up to the point where they understand what is gambling,at that point we should not gamble in front of them.Right now though I gamble and sometimes my daughter comes to see me,I tell her that this is the carrot and this the fish game as I play Rabbit Garden and Big Bass slots from Pragmatic most of the time.She thinks it is a game with fishes and rabbits and laughs at me,of course she is just over 3 years old and keeps smiling,she thinks I am working on the computer when she sees me.I tell her dad is doing a little game because it is needed for work as she with her innocence smiles at me,I don't think is harmful for now.

Yes it is true, there is a time when children can understand about everything they see and this can be one of the reasons why we should always keep our gambling activities a secret from them and even from when they are very young, the sooner the better because after all, all parents do not want their children to be involved in something wrong even though the parents are basically doing it too. From the case you presented about your child asking what you were doing I think your answer is quite good and well-reasoned.

But on the other hand I hope you stay alert and careful with your gambling activities, I mean keep your gambling activities away from your children's environment by trying not to gamble first if you are close to their position because if they see something like that or gambling that you do several times then I think it is very likely to develop their curiosity about what exactly you are doing with the game.

It's a two-way street, gambling when they're awake and lying to them about what you're doing, which is not quite a lie though, he's actually playing a game. Or gamble when they're asleep and sacrifice your sleeping time for the sake of gambling. Many would go with the first option, as it's not a difficult task to tell the kid what we are doing, on the screen. Gambling is a game; the only difference is the amount of money we wager to play the game. People gamble in PlayStation games, it's still gambling and makes no changes, from the definition of what we have online. So, distracting the thoughts of the child is a smart move, but doing it moderately helps in stabilizing the curiosity of the child. Their brain is fast and remembers to some extent what we do and feel after playing the game.

A child may ask, dad why do you look so serious when playing the game, or your face looks sad whenever the game is over, why? These question as we may have it, came as a result of observation. If they watch you gamble, they'll master the facial reactions, and it wouldn't match with how they feel when playing a video game. The questions won't end, and we must be ready to keep on answering more query every day. I'd advise for the gambler to take it gradually, and gamble when the kids are not around us, as Dewi Aries said. The hardest aspect of it, is what we'd do, when the child wants to sit with us while playing the game. Kids can be worrisome, but we have nothing to do about it, then oblige to their numerous requests. You see it'll be wrong sharing same screen displaying a casino site, with a child. The child may begin to memorize what he's seeing on screen, and it's not conducive in my own view.

I think it's fine if you lie for the sake of something that leads to goodness because after all that's the best thing to do if indeed you are one of the fathers involved in gambling, and don't let you be careless in taking precautions so that your children's curiosity does not develop, plus it's clear as you said that a child usually has a sharp memory and also has a high enough sense of curiosity that this can make them find out what exactly you are doing and it is possible that they are involved in gambling without you realizing it. After all, as you said, there are still quite a lot of prevention options that we can do, one of which is in terms of dividing time, you can gamble at your children's bedtime or gamble in other places that are essentially far from your child's environment.

Well of course such a situation is also very likely to make a child become very curious about what exactly his father is doing, they will be very curious and then ask you some questions and if you always make the same mistakes in the sense of not paying too much attention to the importance of the prevention aspect then obviously the suspicion of a child will be more developed, so always keep this activity away from the environment and the view of a child if you really want the best for your child.
1312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: January 19, 2024, 07:02:15 PM
Doing gambling regularly is not efficient in terms of chances of winning, let's say you lose in a row for 3 days you spend $200, on the fourth day you win $190 which we think is big without us realizing the capital we spend to win
Even if a gambler wins the jackpot, he will lose that money if he gambles every day. Gambling requires a gambler to endure human pressure. Regular gambling can make a person sick. Moreover, even if he wins two days, he will want to bet more the next day and then he will lose all his money. If he wins 2 thousand dollars in two days, on the third day he will try how to get 8 thousand with betting 4 thousand. The amount of his loss will be higher. A bettor must avoid the habit of gambling every day.

The lack of certainty and assurance is one of the factors why this can happen, people think that by gambling every day then it will more often bring themselves closer to the chances of winning, I understand and I would say that it is true but isn't it nothing more than a chance which means it is not certain? of course because on the other hand only luck will be able to confirm that you can really get a win. And as you say even though they get the jakcpot but still the victory will again run out the next day, because it is impossible for someone to get lucky in a row, meaning that if you have such an approach then you will only rotate in the same situation, 3 days of winning and 4 days of losing, like digging a hole and closing a hole that will never be finished.

In fact, this method will only make you lose money gradually and without you realizing it, and the idea that gambling every day can get us closer to winning is just a nonsense that comes out of the mouth of someone who is already addicted because they have an excessive behavior or approach to gambling due to the level of expectation of winning that is too high.
1313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be a hope restorer if we go about it wisely! on: January 19, 2024, 06:35:48 PM
As a responsible gambler it gladdens my heart always whenever I hear a fellow gambler testify of how he won a bulky amount of money from be it a bet or lotto and uses that money to inject into something meaningful for himself.

It all happened on my way home just this evening. I boarded a public bus and just in front of me were seated two young men too in their late thirty's having a conversation and from the conversation it sound like they haven't met for a long time and one was telling the other of how he had won a big amount of money from a lotto he played and he has used the money to get himself a new bus for public transportation business.

According to him, he once had a bus before which he was using for the transport business (carrying of passengers) but was seized and confiscated by the authority for he used it in conveying contraband goods of which he was hired to carry to some location by the goods owner on the way law enforcement agents stop them did a search and that was how he lost that vehicle.

When I had hear about the gambling site give the more profit to one gambler,we should understand the reality of the gambling site.Because the gambler who won the huge money will have huge experience and may loss huge money in their past games.The gambler may learn how to react for the complete game,because the algorithm to the gambling site will chage in the particular day.If you the gambler who keep follow the same strategy till the end with the changing algorithm,finally it leads to the loss of the gambling site.Many gambler will loss their funds by following the same procedure like I had said and loss their entire money in the same gambling site.The two boys had won the lotto game only because of the same luck in the game.

Well right, and it's also something that I believe, I mean if for example there are people who manage to get a big win in their gambling activities then I'm sure the amount of money they have lost is also very large. Honestly I have one friend who is not too close to me and he managed to get a pretty big win and it was equivalent to his salary for 1 year if calculated and not long after that many people said that the parents of my friend a few months ago before he managed to get this big win his parents sold the land assets they had just to pay off my friend's debt and the amount was crazy, it was huge and the winnings he just got were a small amount when compared to the debt he had.

It's not just one or two people who experienced this kind of situation because I also heard the same thing from many people and this really made me believe even more that someone who managed to get a big win was those who had previously experienced a much larger number of defeats and after knowing this I really wasn't too impressed with the big wins that other people managed to get because to get a big win like that would not be easy to turn the palm of the hand, plus as you said that the algorithm in gambling will always change over time. simply if you managed to get a win on Sunday when you were off work then it doesn't mean that next week you will get the same win, because sometimes there are also people who say that "it seems like my luck is on that day", so don't be too trusting and racing on anything and one of them is strategy, because this is gambling that has no certainty, and simply only luck can bring you to victory.
1314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: January 19, 2024, 06:15:57 PM

The more a person is involved in gambling and struggle with addiction, his decision wouldn't be accurate. That's why they keep up losing money. So, getting to the level where the gambler is not stable or battle with great decisions, is not nice. Our human brain adapts to whatever activity we invest our time into. That means the player have to be smart, not to fail too much regardless of the gravity dragging him to gamble more. For a player who doesn't mind his behavior and thinks it's getting out of hand can consult his friends, and family. The help will then follow from the family's end. As some addicts would blame his family if they never helped him. So, if he gets troublesome and begin to lend money the family will pay for those debts. If a person begins to realize that his family plays a vital role in changing their mindset. Some are not in prison, while others are suffering from mental imprisonment. Starving the player from getting financial help from other gamblers, would help him control the urge of taking loans from people. Thereby relieving his family, the suffering of having to clear debts when the player is healed from his problems.
Too much of everything is always bad and same with gambling addiction or gambling activeness, because most times, whenever we get too involved in something, that thing tend to get our attention and possibly control our overall behaviour going forward from that point, so addiction comes from what we do consistently and on daily basis that is what transform into addictions when that activities eventually becomes uncontrollable.

So before anyone become fully addicted he or she will first of all go through the phase of over invomennt in gambling which always gives a warning sign to the I dividual before it escalate into bigger problems in the future.

Yes that's right, in any case everything that is done in excess is always bad, not only in gambling but for all activities in our real life is also the same, such as one of them excessive diet then obviously you will feel full and it will be quite disturbing to you and the bad thing is that you will suffer from obesity. And of course especially if you overdo it in gambling activities that really have a high level of risk, if you always overdo the involvement because you are too focused on the chances of winning then believe me that way will only make you tormented and lose balance in terms of finances in the long run and if you can't stop it then obviously you will enter a situation of addiction where you can't miss a moment not to gamble.

Basically all that would be great to do if your habit leads to something more positive, but if your habit is basically gambling then obviously I can't imagine how bad the impact will be when you become a chronic addict. Therefore, from now on we must continue to try to apply the following limits along with good assertiveness because the fact is that addiction can come without you realizing it.
1315  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: January 19, 2024, 05:56:01 PM
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Yes and that is one of the advantages of socialization in gambling, sometimes things like this do not only apply in gambling but in real life too such as when you experience some problems and any problems whether it is the world of work or even more often is about romance then usually you will look for someone who can listen to the problems you are experiencing with the aim of getting at least some solutions that can be considered  and it is true that this will be quite useful if we apply to gambling problems which as you say when we are experiencing a defeat that is quite painful, because of course sharing stories or experiences with others will be able to make us feel more comfortable and calm.

And yes as you said if indeed we have  a good approach in the sense that it can still make us safe and comfortable in gambling then I think socialization is not really needed, and maybe you will only feel a little boredom situation with the gambling you do. So the point is in this  matter I think we cannot completely rule out socialization activities in gambling because of the fact as we discussed above that this is indeed needed especially when we experience problems in gambling.
It depends on each person because some are used to sharing what they experience with others, and others prefer to hide it from others because they feel they are still capable of doing so. Usually, those who are used to sharing it with other people are very picky and won't share it with many people, and only those close to them will know the story. They have been chosen to be listeners, give advice, and helpers to people who gamble so that they listen to their advice. When the gambler experiences problems, the gambler will go to these people to ask for advice or other needed things.

Some people like to socialize, and those who don't, so we cannot equate one person with another. Those who are closed off from other people don't really like sharing what they experience or do, so it gives the impression that they don't want to socialize even though they are very picky in choosing people who are only close to them. And in telling what they experienced, they will look for people who really understand them so they will not choose just anyone.

Yes I understand this, it all depends on themselves and it is a fact that some people prefer to be closed to others, they have their own way of solving their problems, maybe by locking themselves in the room while crying, of course for this problem it is true and I quite agree with your idea that it depends on the person. Yes that's right, people who choose to tell their problems to others will also not be careless in choosing people, because not everyone can be trusted to keep other people's problems a secret and this is the reason people will be very careful to choose listeners who can really keep their secrets and usually they often choose the people closest to them such as their true friends or one of their family members. But sometimes there are also listeners who really just listen and don't provide any solutions or suggestions to consider, people like that are quite boring Cheesy but it doesn't really matter because at least they are willing to be a good listener. Grin
1316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspects of online gambling on: January 19, 2024, 05:35:51 PM
I think the social aspect of online gambling can't match that of offline gambling. The bond or the experience with other people can't be sufficiently provided in online gambling platforms. Perhaps it would only be activated if the other gamblers in your table are friends or if you are familiar with each other like when a poker game is composed of users from this forum. If they are not friends or familiar persons, you would even seldom contribute a response.

Right, there is a very significant difference if we look in terms of the socialization relationship, of course and I think this is the obvious difference between physical and online casinos, which if you gamble in a physical casino then obviously you will meet a lot of other visitors who certainly have a lot of time and opportunity to socialize by exchanging stories or various experiences in the world of gambling maybe which will certainly be able to increase the bond in terms of relationships.

So of course as you said that socialization in online casinos will not be able to match physical casinos because after all the services and situations are different, online gambling is more specifically for people who don't want to bother leaving the house to gamble like most people do when gambling in physical casinos, on the other hand I honestly never found out about how to connect with other people or even my own friends in online gambling, but maybe this is a good idea to develop.
This is why when it comes to choices then it would really be that totally depending on someones preference or liking if we do speak about physical or online casino on which it would really be that best that you should really be the ones who would really be finding out on which place you are really that interested on dealing with. There are some people who doesnt really like on crowded places and there are ones who are really that liking on having those kind of socialization with other people and this is why it would really be that depending on someone whether they would really be sticking into their own interest or would really be trying out
to test some other field on which it would really be just that depending on you.

This is why it would really be that always that matter on your own interest and if you are really that have plans on trying to test out other options
then it would really be that according into your own decisions because its your money to be used not theirs. So if you do find it to be that
interesting then it would be just that right that you would really be sticking into it.

Yes, I also explained above about one of the most significant differences between these two types of gambling, each type of casino has its own advantages and obviously as you said it's just about a person's choice and depending on which one they're interested in getting involved with whether it's an online or physical casino it's all up to them because they have their own criteria when it comes to choosing and also another reason is you also said that there are some people who don't like crowds which means they would definitely prefer online casinos and others prefer to build socializing relationships with other people in person and also of course that means they would definitely choose to get involved in physical casinos.

The fact is that it's as simple as this to conclude and I don't think it should be a problem whatsoever because everyone has different choices and they're just going to go to the place that they want to go to that can certainly fulfill their desires, so they have the right to make whatever decision they want.
1317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you pay attention on other people bet and it amount, and does it affect you? on: January 19, 2024, 05:15:44 PM
For me of course it affects my betting mentality. I would definitely feel inferior if someone next to me bet bigger than me.
Sometimes it makes me hesitate to bet, in the end I just watch first until I can really decide to bet. But of course I won't go crazy all in to equalize my betting amount.
I will continue to use my funds according to what I planned at the beginning before playing.

I think it's normal for you to be influenced by what you see other people doing, no matter what the situation is you are gambling with other people or your friends with the same position and close together, I'm sure that at least there will be your feelings to follow the amount of large bets he did this is a natural feeling that humans have, and the rest is depending on how he can control himself, whether he will decide to follow him in the sense of being influenced or stay firm on the planning and approach he has in gambling.

I think the better way is that there is no other way than you prefer to stay firm on your own decisions and confidence, do not follow the large amount of bets made by others, after all they do not guarantee you to win if you follow the way they do, in the sense that in gambling whatever happens at the end of the session then it is entirely the responsibility of each gambler who experiences it, and with that means you better gamble with decisions on your own abilities in the sense of not overdoing it and not going out of your limits.

Other player's money or strategy may tend to make a gambler try gambling out of his will, that is, betting more money, just to win like the next gambler. It's not bad, however, yet the player holds himself for the outcome of his game. The person we spied their game, may have wagered his spare cash. He won't be bothered over his results; win or loss. While the next person would end up being worried over losing a bigger amount, which he didn't plan on spending. Gambling shouldn't be considered a competition. Everyone should mind his bank roll and care less over the winnings of other people, which is not ours. Truthfully, those wins are so tempting, looking at the amount of money a fellow gambler has won. A player with less self-control would lose his principles and rush his games. That only doesn't help the person, but it could be detrimental to his future gambling experience.

Meaning, he wouldn't enjoy gambling. Because the player now relies on the result of other people as a motivator for gambling. His own goals have been forgotten by him. The previous plans don't get practiced and the gambler wouldn't perform great in a strategy he is not used to playing. So, it's a bad habit as a gambler to let go of our plans for other player's, due to the money they've won using their strategy or plan. Within a short period, we'd win using the same strategy we thought wasn't smart enough. Gambling has not powerful strategy for winning. Whatever is our strategy only need us to understand it better and control the way we gamble to extend our gambling duration. The longer we gamble, the more experienced we'd become.

Yes it is true that big wins in the form of money are one of the big drivers for gamblers to act beyond their abilities and with little regard for the risks that are there, and also seeing big bets made by others of course it can also  affect us especially if the person manages to get a win with a big bet and yes I can already see how the situation there in the sense that at least you must have the feeling to follow it, even though what they don't know is that it could be like what you said that the person is betting his spare money in the sense that it won't really matter if he ends up losing. But for the person who follows it he has a situation where the money he bet is the last money he has and if he loses then obviously there will be so much disappointment and regret while other people are still fine.

So as I said before that in gambling it is better to gamble in your own way and desire. others will not care about what you experience because it is outside of their responsibility. On the other hand, I understand what you said  that gamblers have their own way of gambling, and it doesn't mean that what works for them will work for you. What if for example it turns out that you have better luck than the people you follow while on the other hand you follow the way they do? of course this is possible, and yes I understand that no strategy is 100% successful, therefore it must be accompanied by risk management so that everything becomes balanced and the point is that you will not experience too significant defeat.
1318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: January 19, 2024, 04:55:25 PM
When you are about to be addicted to gambling, just apply stop so that you will still have opportunity to gamble another time when you are financially buoyant with a new skills to recover what you have lost in the past in the gambling center.

The moment I won in the gambling center, there is no way anyone can force me to gamble again in that day which it has be my principle over some years in gambling and, I'm very happy with the system because it will not make me regret when I loss or gain in the gambling than to continue doing it till old age occur before I will apply stop.
The ability for us to stop gambling whenever we know that it's not appropriate for us it what we know as gambling discipline. Discipline is a way we can personally control our gambling habits. Habitual gambling could fun to us but it is very important when we different that from how frequent we keep making profits. We should know when to leave gambling and when to go back because this alone will help balance our mental health so that we don't we don't become to quest to gamble everytime. Discipline gamblers always have options that could aid them from analysing how frequent they gamble and what they tend to benefit from every bet they involved themselves.

It is easy to say but very difficult to do, all gamblers know this but it is not easy for them to do it when they are already in the session they are doing, one of the things that causes this is that there are so many temptations that are there that they see as tempting when in fact it is nothing more than something that will trap them and this is what makes most gamblers have difficulty implementing controls or limits such as stopping at the right time.

On the other hand of course your suggestion is very good in terms of minimizing something that is not wanted by applying such prevention, and I think only people who come with a proper understanding of gambling can easily do this restriction or prevention and we do not need to suggest it they will also realize and do it themselves because they understand that there are far greater risks that are very likely to occur if for example they cannot control their gambling activities such as experiencing mental stress and losing balance in terms of finance.
1319  Economy / Gambling / Re: Slot Educational on: January 18, 2024, 11:27:41 PM

Nevertheless, OGs in gambling should not hesitate to impart the newbies with the wealth of experiences they have gathered over the years in the space
But is it useful?
I don't think so because many beginners don't care and don't really have the mindset to learn from experience.
Experience can be the best teacher for learning in finding or determining every decision that must be taken, but beginners are more dominant in thinking about maintaining their belief that betting more will increase their chances of winning.
This is one of those thoughts that will only lead to mistakes but it always happens.

In my opinion, it is clear that experience in gambling will only be useful to minimize defeat, which is for example you learn from many other people's experiences whether they are positive or  negative and about this experience of course you can only take something good, or that means you should not follow the bad experiences they have experienced and this is the point of learning from other people's experiences.

The point is that they can't take anything  from other people's experiences that lead to victory, because people manage to get victory only because the situation is really on their side, or that means they are lucky so they can get victory, we have to admit that gambling is a game of probability that has absolutely no certainty and guarantees of anything and this is what makes you can only learn something from other people's experiences so that you don't get caught in problems or situations like those they have experienced.
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mental rehabilitation clinic. on: January 18, 2024, 10:32:56 PM
They always deny it, they always justify the bad things they do. So it's quite a hassle to deal with someone like this, let alone trying to wake him up. Because his addiction and love for gambling had blinded his mind and heart to the truth that other people were trying to convey to him. And if we don't have enough patience, maybe when we try to give someone advice, everything will end in a fight. And I personally don't have enough patience to deal with people like that and for me to face someone who behaves like that, it would just be a waste of my time. because they are one of the hardest people to remind, they are one of the hardest people to advise and they are one of the people who just want to feel right about themselves.

Gambling stimulates the brain system because of the chance of winning which can involve hope in it and when someone is caught up in the hope for a win then this is the starting point for the gambler to enter the addiction phase, as I said that gambling can stimulate and involve a person's feelings which eventually put hope, and obviously over time the gambler's confidence will get higher in terms of expecting a win, they believe that it must happen, or that means they must get a big win, I also believe that because gambling is an activity of chance where you can win a very large amount and vice versa you can also lose a large amount.

But what gamblers who have entered the addiction phase don't think about is that they don't think that they are losing a lot of money in their gambling dedication to chasing that big win, they don't realize it and of course like you said that it's difficult for people to advise them because their mindset is already lost in the cycle of hope for victory so because they are so used to doing it, they feel that what they are doing is not wrong. The fact is that it is very difficult to overcome this kind of problem, only their own consciousness can make a change for the better, but it is not that easy to achieve consciousness, and I think it is likely that they have to run out of everything they have in life or be at the lowest point before they can realize it and feel unusual regret.
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