Bottom-Up PromotionHere's something I think we should do as a community, and it's a route of marketing that a lot of coins seem to ignore. We need to focus on social media, sharing, etc. sites on a country-by-country (geographical region) basis. Try to find the Facebook, Twitter, or what have you social media site for that area and build tipping and sharing bots for them. HYPbots perhaps?  I'm willing to donate to bounties for the necessary technology, and I'm sure others are willing to pitch in to. The same can be said of Community Management Groups for each of these sites/regions. Let's start brainstorming!  This coin is still tiny and can grow exponentially... But listing on Cryptsy adds nothing since all the HBN, CAP, TEK enthusiasts are already in HYP. You gotta get listed on BTER and get indigenous Chinese support... That's where the growth is... could probably more than double the cap with China promotion. But really it's still an incremental advance over HBN, CAP, etc Most of this thread is about people debating the correct block size and devs posting ultra-technical stuff... *** That's as far away from mainstream as you can get, it's math geek territory ***... And I'm speaking as a software engineer for > 20 years and pro trader. Also, nobody seems to have the foggiest idea what the actual return is... Or where the coin will stabilize in terms of realistic long-term return... And 2 days ago network weight doubled and then halved in a matter of hours (??). Yes, I know it's experimental... But unless a lot of these things are clarified... And to quote John Tuld in Margin Call, "“Speak to me as you would a small child, or a golden retriever,”... If you cannot explain something to a 10 year old it cannot go mainstream... So it all needs to be explained on Page One with a clear WhitePaper, maybe (eventually)... Not conflicting information buried all over the place. In the late 70's the same things were said about personal computers. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that "mainstream" is only a piece of the picture. One day a coin will go truly mainstream. Maybe several of them. Bitcoin is the best positioned for that. And in that case, yes, making an explanation that a 10 year old can understand is necessary. But right now, all this technical discussion is leading to greater understanding by those who make it work, not the mainstream. If we're to look at it that way, then I can make the simple explanation. It's a money token. If it ain't spent, it grows. If it is, it don't. Not satisfying, and not precise, but it's accurate enoughy for joe sixpack. But the geeks are the ones that will make it work to the point where that explanation is necessary. HYP is probably not ready for the big time. And HYPing it up is probably not wise right now. (sorry, couldn't resist). The Wiki, as far as it has gone, is pretty good and getting better. The dev team is right there all the time. This coin has a lot going for it. Let's let it grow up a bit. |
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update on my wallet woes. Tried it with the non linux specific build, still no dice, claiming that it was missing some files in the QT directory. I nuked the source and cloned it fresh. Worked first time. I guess I got a bad pull  |
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hi guys , can someone tell me why the stake amount split into 2 everytime after staking
Yep, I can do that for ya  When a block goes into stake, it creates TWO new blocks of roughly equal parts and destroys the old block. This keeps the network moving. Some POS clients recombine the block, but most do not. It's part of how proof of stake works. |
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i think we are not hate that religion , but we hate bad people / organization who hide behind that religion to make a mess in this world
I hate religion. No, let me rephrase that. I hate organized religion. A belief system held to oneself or imediate family that harms no other, I got no real problem with. Even if it's anti reality or just plain silly, it harms me not. Or as Thomas Jefferson said it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my legs. But when two nasty elements come together, as they do in relgious organization(s), it gets ugly. Those elements being the lust for power and the claim of ultimate authority. Most religions, I daresay all religious organizations, have a greater or lesser degree of these elements. I actually tend to single out Christianity as it has had the greatest personal detriment to me. Islam is no different in that. The most rabid fundamentalist is harmless without backers, followers, and sycophants. Religion breeds 'em like rabbits. Remember, the origin of Christianity was just one guy, who gathered around Himself a dozen disciples. He didn't even go after people. His start was simply trying to help out at a wedding when He turned water into wine. It was the people seeking Him out, after than, that started the religion. It was a bunch of people - a good segment of the nation of ancient Israel - who sought Him out to make Him their King and religious leader. Where do yo draw the line? Actually, as near as we can determine, it was started (in a way) by the one sect of Judaism NOT specifically named and called out in the Christian scriptures: The Essenes. There is no good evidence that Yeheshua Ben Yusef actually ever existed, though it's a common enough name for the time. But the precepts are exactly Essene, and many essene writings of the time and a bit before are directly in line with early Christianity. And I draw the line at provable reality AND harm to others. Not a very wide line. |
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In response to the rule, we will not stop announcing that we have listed the coin. Instead, we're posting this: ---- <COIN NAME> has just been added to a mystery exchange which we are not allowed to mention by name! If you can figure out which one it is based on who's posting this, you might be lucky enough to get over there to trade! But, due to the new absurd "advertising spam" rules ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=718124.0) we are not allowed to say who we are. Because that's advertising. So, let's hope you can figure it out! We're hoping this isn't advertising spam as we are not mentioning any exchange, and the coin could have been posted to any, really. What a mystery! The coin is possibly (but maybe not) live and available right now, although the blockchain might still be downloading and deposits might not appear until this is complete. Assuming an exchange, randomly chosen, did in fact, list it. We have (or will very soon) post an announcement on Twitter as well. Follow us on twitter (@all_crypt or https://twitter.com/All_Crypt - Hope it's ok to post a twitter handle! We were only told we cannot post links to our sites?) to help spread the word and keep abreast of site news and updates. We'd very much appreciate being listed as an active exchange in the OP of the this thread. If you'd like a high quality PNG logo to use, a zip is available at: http://www.[figure it out for yourself].com/aclogopack.zip An important note: It sucks for everyone when there is a fork, or a version upgrade, and we don't get notified. Sometimes developers just tweet that there is an upgrade. We're busy running the site - we do not have time to read every tweet we are mentioned in every day. We read them, in time, but if it's an emergency upgrade (a fork) or there is a hard fork coming in less than a week - we may not see it. We unfortunately do not have time to read every forum thread of every coin we list - we'd love to - and we do read the forums as much as we can, but keeping up with every coin would be a full time job for multiple people. We'd rather spend that money on hardware and new code and features. Wink The only truly RELIABLE way to ensure we know about a mandatory upgrade is to submit a support ticket. Just have someone hop by http://support.[mystery website].com and let us know. We see those all the time, and some of us have the app on our phones and see support tickets instantly. If for some reason your github source changes (community takeover for example) PLEASE let us know that in the ticket. We save the github sources so we don't have to scour for it again later - and if you have an upgrade, but we're checking the old source code, it will really delay the upgrade. You only need to provide a github source if the source has changed. I think that covers it! Thanks for your support of [insert random exchange name here] and we're proud to support you in return! You know, assuming we actually did list the coin. We might not have. ----- If that's advertising spam, I'll change it again. And again. Until it reaches the point that accounts owned by pools/exchanges/websites are not allowed to post ANYTHING AT ALL. You know, until the real reason this is being done is fulfilled - until we pay. I think we'd all rather it just be said plainly: "Pay us." At least that'd have a small degree of respectability. Whats hilarious is that none of us, except maybe Bittrex and Mintpal and Cryptsy are likely making enough money off these endeavors to afford to pay the absurdly high advertising rates here. I've looked into it. Hiring someone to run a precisely targeted AdWords campaign is cheaper than tiny advertising space here. The last aucton ended with a slot costing 4 BTC for 1 week. They are stating about 2 million impressions, but there are only about 200k unique IPs. No statistics about click-throughs, which is what just about everyone else uses, so, hard to compare. And since there are 8 slots, people always buy more than 1 to increase their visibility. Lowest last round was 2 slots. At 4 BTC each. For $2400 I can get one hell of an awesome Google AdWords rep putting on one amazing ad campaign. For a hell of a lot longer than a week. With infinitely more visibility. Bargain this site is. Any kind of service advertising in other people's threads is not allowed, including indirectly referring to your service ("we're up", "we've added the coin", "see our twitter/facebook/sig"). As per this rule, discussion of individual/specific services/websites is considered off-topic. As you already know, I'm fully on the side of allcrypt here. If this is not blatantly obvious to you (don't even give me that tripe about "I don't make the rules", then I'll spell it out. This rule has NO VALIDITY and is UNETHICAL. Look up the words. I'm sure you can find them on dictionary.com. Oh, was that advertising a service? You are the one making the call, therefor you are taking a stand. So just say it. You want the business to go elsewhere. It will, you know. If you make yourselves irrelevant, there are always those hungry enough to take what you drive away. If, as it seems, the issue is paid advertising, then make a REAL structure and a REAL set of rules by which such advertising is to be conducted. Not overbroad, arbitrary, capricious and contradictory rules made in a late night drinking session at the corner bar. |
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Ok, I got my linux machine back up (FINALLY!) and went to upgrade. I can't get the latest master branch to compile. Ubuntu 14.04, and no issues with previous qt's up to 1.03. sudo qmake HyperStake-linux.pro gives me two warnings about omitting a default, qmake-qt4 throws no warnings, but both terminate with errors when I try to build using make STATIC=1 -f Makefile. I'm about to try with qmake-qt5. If that don't work, gonna need some assistance. I don't want to keep running the windows version on a slow laptop edit: qt-5 is default, and thows the same errors. I had similar issues with HyperStake-qt-linux.pro for latest wallet versions. Try to compile with HyperStake-qt.pro, qmake-qt4 made it. Also try to roll back to v1.0.6.5. Download the tar archive, unpack it, than do: cd path/to/folder/HyperStake-1.0.6.5 && sudo qmake-qt4 ./HyperStake-qt.pro && sudo make I'll try both ways in a bit. Thanks! Ok, I got my linux machine back up (FINALLY!) and went to upgrade. I can't get the latest master branch to compile. Ubuntu 14.04, and no issues with previous qt's up to 1.03. sudo qmake HyperStake-linux.pro gives me two warnings about omitting a default, qmake-qt4 throws no warnings, but both terminate with errors when I try to build using make STATIC=1 -f Makefile. I'm about to try with qmake-qt5. If that don't work, gonna need some assistance. I don't want to keep running the windows version on a slow laptop edit: qt-5 is default, and thows the same errors. Try it without special flags and use hyperstake-qt.pro which is now compatible with linux. So it builds but terminates on start up? I prefer the static build if possible, so I'll try it that way first. If it don't work I'll drop the flags. I got to blaze for now, but when I get back I'll try it and see what happens. I'll keep you guys informed. With the QT 5, it got farther than with QT4, but both terminated very quickly with "not found" errors in the source. You're never that sloppy, so I assumed something wrong on my end |
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Ok, I got my linux machine back up (FINALLY!) and went to upgrade. I can't get the latest master branch to compile. Ubuntu 14.04, and no issues with previous qt's up to 1.03. sudo qmake HyperStake-linux.pro gives me two warnings about omitting a default, qmake-qt4 throws no warnings, but both terminate with errors when I try to build using make STATIC=1 -f Makefile. I'm about to try with qmake-qt5. If that don't work, gonna need some assistance. I don't want to keep running the windows version on a slow laptop edit: qt-5 is default, and thows the same errors. |
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i think we are not hate that religion , but we hate bad people / organization who hide behind that religion to make a mess in this world
I hate religion. No, let me rephrase that. I hate organized religion. A belief system held to oneself or imediate family that harms no other, I got no real problem with. Even if it's anti reality or just plain silly, it harms me not. Or as Thomas Jefferson said it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my legs. But when two nasty elements come together, as they do in relgious organization(s), it gets ugly. Those elements being the lust for power and the claim of ultimate authority. Most religions, I daresay all religious organizations, have a greater or lesser degree of these elements. I actually tend to single out Christianity as it has had the greatest personal detriment to me. Islam is no different in that. The most rabid fundamentalist is harmless without backers, followers, and sycophants. Religion breeds 'em like rabbits. |
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I don't think people should be forced to use public infrastructure and services, simply because tax whores won't allow competition.
Need a strong and honest government to build up massive bullet train infrastructure like the one in China. Private company and local goverment do not have the economic power and law on their side to do project at such scale. LOL, China, which according to post-2010 documentaries, segregates its own people by province/economic status and restricts the right to travel (amongst many other non-train related tyranny), an "honest" government. The definition of an honest politician is one who stays bought. Not many of 'em out there. China is an honest government. They are openly of the opinion that they own the people. Better than hiding it, like "democracies". |
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My sig is too busy to participate in this one But I still got my ref link in there. Good luck, boys and girls! |
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So...is there anything is the works right now that might bring some excitement or potential new investment to this coin? In reading back through previous posts, I know that things are in the works, but I haven't seen any clear direction or gameplan in place. Who is the active developer on this? Meaning, who is the person who is able to modify the code, update the wallet, etc? Not some middleman working out deals to get things done.
One thing I really like about Hyperstake, HBN, and CAP is that Presstab, Tranz, and David are VERY active in the development and community. Questions are asked, and those questions are quickly answered. Here at Tek, questions are asked and the answers are (sort of) given by community members, usually with responses like " I spoke to someone who's working the issue and I should know something soon" etc etc.
So I ask, who is in charge exactly? I've been with Tek for 6 months now and I still don't quite understand who is actually in charge of the health and sustainability of the coin? I get the developer cant control of the success or profit of a coin, but one thing i've learned in altcoin trading is that active development attracts new investment. So, whomever is in charge, please provide clear guidance and new innovation to help spring this amazing coin back to life. If we keep with the status quo, we might as well move on because this ship has too many holes in it to stay afloat.
Just my two cents.
Thinnk its biomeck as dev. Seems very busy he says. Thundertoe is the dev, creator of the coin. I'm probably the biggest cheerleader, and He and I have batted around the idea of me taking the wheel. But I'd be more of a project manager as my coding skills are, well, atrocious. Most of the time the behind the scenes development is done by various friends and colleagues of Thundertoe, sometimes for bounty and sometimes just because they're tekheads. I have no official position in the development process aside from a love of the coin and being friends with the guys who do the work. My real job is working for Incryptex, a soon to launch exchange with huge ambitions. And yes, I'm extremely busy and likely to get busier. But I love TEK and HYP and FIRE, so I keep up with 'em as best I can. |
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I don't think people should be forced to use public infrastructure and services, simply because tax whores won't allow competition.
How is that possible? Easy, by not being an asshole, oh wait I forgot! That's too difficult for some people! I mean, how is it possible for someone not to use any public services or infrastructure? That's another of the "basic" questions that libertarians and anarchists get tired of answering. But I'll give you a brief synopsis, and recommend some reading for you, because the subject has been covered in depth from multiple angles. The basic gist is, that if a service is worth having, it's worth paying for, and if the money has to be stolen, then it's probably not worth having. Most "public services" are completely unconstitutional in the United States, but they exist anyway and we pay for them whether we use them or not. Which creates more of a free rider problem than the system that anarchists envision. Prior to the "public" (read government) seizure of all roads, most roads in most countries were turnpikes, and the system worked well. That's just one example. I'm tired and not willing to go in depth right this minute, but here's some good resources: For a New Liberty by Murray RothbardThe New Libertarian Manifesto by Samuel Edward Konkin IIImises.orglewrockwell.com |
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now is 9 days i stake my coin,..but i have not receive the coin
whats wrong?
probably nothing. If you run your cursor over the little symbols in the lower right corner, one of them should say "minting" or something of that nature. The process becomes eligible at 8.8 days. How long it actually takes is variable, with the stake increasing for every day past the first it was eligible. Sometimes it happens fast, sometimes it don't. Fake patience. If I can fake patience, anyone can yes ,.in the lower right corner '' minting,your weight is 1493 ,network weight 2728xxx estimated to earn reward is 7 days it means I have to wait 7 days again? All is well, and you might. It's an estimate. I don't have the latest version, so my estimates are all over the map, but even the most accurate is just that: An estimate. The minting process, like direct mining, is random. You might stake right now, or it might take a while. Bigger blocks are supposed to stake faster, but that too is not always the case. The longer it takes, the higher the reward, so it's not wasted time. I try to break up my blocks so that I'm staking every day. I currently don't have enough HYP to do that, but I do have staggered blocks, so I stake about five days in a row currently, with variance due to the randomness. If your wallet is always open, you'll stake faster with big blocks, 1600 HYP or more. If it's not, I'd recommend blocks of around 1K, as you will likely approach the 1000 coin cap before you stake. |
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now is 9 days i stake my coin,..but i have not receive the coin
whats wrong?
probably nothing. If you run your cursor over the little symbols in the lower right corner, one of them should say "minting" or something of that nature. The process becomes eligible at 8.8 days. How long it actually takes is variable, with the stake increasing for every day past the first it was eligible. Sometimes it happens fast, sometimes it don't. Fake patience. If I can fake patience, anyone can |
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Presstab: A suggestion for the next wallet commit. Put a hyperlink to the wiki under help. Have it open a browser window rather than displaying in the coin wallet. I don't know how difficult this would be, but it sounds easy, and might help new people.
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I would recommend giving it a bit longer than that. My last staking took about ten days, except one block that took a really long time, but it did come mature in a time when I couldn't have it open all the time.
I bought most my HYP now 9.5 days ago and this morning, three of my inputs staked with between 550 and 590 HYP rewards, but I deliberately created rather large inputs of mostly 3k HYP. I have a couple smaller around 1k also and we'll see how much time they need, but for now I am happy about the fast earnings of the larger blocks. Apparently a weight of 2000-3000 can allow staking of some inputs. I noticed that the inputs were split up after staking, so I will probably from time to time gather smaller inputs and combine them unless the rewards that are added a re large enough to keep them up in size. From what I see, about 300 HYP are added to each input, so there will be an equilibrium when inputs get as small as 600 (add 600 reward, then split in 2 of 600) which might be still OK but will need a longer time to gather enough weight for staking as well as reward, so I might recombine inputs. (in coin control, select all the small inputs that you want to combine, then divide that large amount into 1 or more outputs by sending it to one or more addresses in your own wallet, each having the size that you want to give them. For example - if you have 8 inputs of 500 and want to create 2 of 2000 then you select all 8 inputs in Coin control and close that screen which brings you back to the "send" screen. here you see a "change" address that you can fill out with an address of your wallet so you do not get random temporary addresses, and you can also use the same address as destination to send to, then you tell to send 2000 which means an amount of change of 2000 which will go to the change address - so you will end up with 2 inputs into your chosen address of size 2000 and you are done. You can generate more than two inputs at one time by clicking the button "add recipient" which will add another field to give an address and amount to send at the same time, so you only pay a transfer fee once for sending to many addresses. Note that all recipients must be different addresses, so you need to generate additional addresses in your own wallet and use those to send to yourself (go to the Receive screen and click "New Address") Here's the kind of resourceful dude you want securing your coin... As opposed to Pro Complainers like Akula999 that just want attention... and will always find a reason to leave. Staking coins are almost by definition more complex... And your typical coin might requires several hours of study to stake effectively... Coins that give an advantage to slightly more sophisticated users than tend to build loyal communities... (Like successful Gen 2.0 platforms, for example). Also, this is the first hi-stake coin that has achieved decent liquidity on the exchange (2-10 BTC/day)... So HYP is turning over 1-2% of it's coin supply every day... just wow... *** That is a historic achievement... and needs close analysis *** Because even though you may love the legacy HBNs and CAPs of the world... I predict that ALL Cryptsy accounts will require VERIFICATION within months... (Including their bizarre demand to take a picture of yourself balancing a beach ball on your nose). Someday your IRS examiner will show you some incoherent report from Cryptsy with you making $$$$$$$ at 200% interest... (And don't laugh, Amsterdam, because the IRS has Tax Treaties with about 50 countries)... Even if the report is completely erroneous you will be charged with tax evasion and pay huge fines. I freaking love this coin. There is something viral about hi-stake... that's why you MUST keep the liquidity up. I was being honest. Calling me a complainer is like calling anyone who has ever voiced an issue with 'anything' a complainer. Not once did I say anything negative about this coin. I only expressed my own frustration in this coin. 13 days of staking and it's still staking. Other folks have better luck I guess or there must be a trick. Maybe the people who code/program the wallets can do a better job with a "dummy" mode for people like me. Remember, there are a lot more non techs out there than techs. Even though my luck has been significantly better than yours on this coin, and over the last year I've become pretty well versed in this, I'm not a programmer, and the information is often contradictory. Though I got quoted above, I never attacked you and offered to help. Newbie bashing is a fucking disease. To all of you who have the knowledge and get snippy, remember this: You were a newbie once too. In the world of crypto currency, even if you were in on the beginnings of bitcoin, you were a newbie just a few years ago. Granted, there are people who come in with an attitude. Akula did not. He got one after you slapped him, and so would I. Before you swing the clue bat, ask yourself is softer methods might be more constructive. Back to you, Mr Shark ( I like the name). A bunch of us in the high staking community are working on some guides, and Presstab and Tranz are working on ways to make it more seamless for the new guy. It ain't there yet, really for any POS coin. This is one of the very best for ease of use and information, but it still is not seamless for the complete newbie. Most of the procedures have been discussed in this thread, but have not been really well compiled. HyperStake's Wiki is pretty good, so is HoboNickels'. I learned a lot from there, and from presstab and Thundertoe, among others who have helped me along the way. If you come in a little humble, people will respond helpfully. This forum has a tendency to be really rough on people. Not just newbies. A lot of people here have a hair trigger with a split end. Try not to take it personally. Some are assholes, more are just as frustrated as you, but over different things. Those of us who've been around a while hear the same question over and over again. I'm pretty patient with this, most are not. Again, if you have any further questions, PM me. I guarantee I won't flame you. I can't guarantee I can solve your problems, but my track record is fairly good. |
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Ok, I have good 'net access again, and my main machine. Not sure where you guys are at or what you're doing. I'm swamped on my job until Wednesday, but after that, those of you developing this can see if there is anything I can help you with. My ZS holdings are quite small, but I'd still like to see this go forward.
The more I think about it, the more I like returning to POW, possibly altogether, or with a lower POS rate. I'd suggested earlier switching to x11 or something along those lines, but given the continual rise in BTC difficulty and the sheer numbers of older SHA asics, I think I would instead stay with SHA-256. Maybe 5 coins a block and 10 percent per annum POS?
At any rate, I'll be ready to help starting Wednesday. I cannot say how much time I'll have for it, but I do want to help.
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Hey guys, two things to report, one good one not.
First, I had a tek block stake today that had just one coin in it. This was an experiment on my part, cuz I keep seeing people saying that you have to have hundreds of coins to even have a chance at staking. Nope. Took 7 days from maturity, staked at just over 39 percent. My wallet is on my other computer, so I don't have the exact number. Sorry about that, I'll update later.
The bad news, I have not had time to try to compile a windows wallet and write a guide. Not blowing anyone off on this, I just have a tremendous amount of paying work to do. I will get to it, hopefully in the next couple of days. My apologies, but I have to feed my family ahead of this.
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The time is coming...
We are only 3-6 months away from the next massive spike... and it will exceed all of your wildest dreams.
baaa, it's almost touching the 200's now....depressing...where's the spike you promised? Did you read my post? I said 3-6 months before it happens minimum. Jeebus christ, Bitcoin is practically guaranteed to go to the moon next year and you guys are whining about cheap coins.Either take advantage of the current situation or don't. people said that we are guaranteed to have a nice gain year by year, no matter what the buy price. Already proved wrong. Now you saying that we are guaranteed to get a big bubble in 2015... Oh cut 'im a break. This thread has always been about unbridled enthusiasm |
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A) Im white
B) I never said that there are no poor or non-white libertarians, I just said Ive never met one
C) I never said libertarians are selfish, I said human beings are selfish
It seems I touched a nerve here. I never asked for your empathy, I just wanted to have conversation about my evolving political beliefs.
I am a libertarian, but I have a high degree of compassion for mankind and the plight of the average person. Furthermore, when civil society breaks down as a result of the endgame of free markets, nobody wins - even with the people who have all the money and property. They will essentially be living in a prison. How could anyone argue for this result?
My issue is, how do we retain total economic freedom without an endgame which results in our society breaking down, the start of which we are currently seeing.
This is a sincere question, its been bothering me for weeks.
Now that, sir, is a very cogent question. One I've given years of thought too. I can't give a short answer, and in fact have to say there is no single answer. But I have a lot of ideas. My first response was a bit terse. In rereading it, I came off pretty pissed off, which I wasn't. Just had my hands full of 9 month old baby But to the point you raise, I am of the opinion that government needs to change, and the current forms will have to be abolished for that to happen. I'm more an anarchist than a libertarian, though it was Rothbard that led me to anarchism. I do not have a great deal of time right now, so I'll just leave you some thinking points, because as I said, I don't have proven answers, just some strong suspicions (some backed by history, others by observation). 1. As you noted humans are selfish. This has to be factored into any system, coercive or not, or it will not work. 2. In a seeming contradiction, people can be quite generous, and often for reasons that appear to contradict #1. (in fact, it does not, but that's for later, as I'd like to see your responses first) 3. All current forms of government are predicated on ownership of people, whether admitted or not. ( a dictatorship is generally more honest than a democracy in that) 4. Libertarian and anarchist philosophy rail against three, but largely skate by 1 and magnify 2. So, as I see it, there can be no ONE solution, but massive decentralization, with small communities who interact with each other on a case by case basis, and a general acceptance of the non aggression principle is a BEGINNING of a solution. That deals well with our social nature, but not AS well with our selfishness. Given that general acceptance is NOT universal acceptance, it is also necessary that a free society be well armed at the individual level. I've long said that philosophy aside, the first requisite of a free society is general armament. It prevents those who do bad things from doing them, and that includes would-be rulers. At this point in history, talking about what can be is the best we have, but I think it quite probable that libertarians and anarchists could establish communities that become recognized as nations. It won't happen in the west for a long time, but it could happen in Africa, on uninhabited islands, a number of places even in Eastern Europe. This is of course far from even a complete introduction to the things I've been thinking and talking about for the last 13 years, but to my mind you have raised the big question. As far as how to achieve such societies, I think the agorist attitude is proper. Looking forward to your reply! |
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