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1501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Most newbies don't know this on: December 30, 2022, 09:11:53 PM

Stop giving your private keys or wallet seed to every tool asking for them. If you really really want to give out all that, make a special wallet only for that purpose and keep very small amount of funds on it. And yeah, pretty much count it as compromised.

Maybe also helps keeping the bulk of the coins on hardware wallet. It may make you think twice before you go looking for your seed backup because whatever software was asking for it.


Also, as already said, you should try to read about more and understand the words/terms you're using. Now you make a confusion and get corrected, no big deal. Tomorrow you make a confusion that leads to a mistake and you lose money, not good.
1502  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 50% Down Move Incoming? on: December 30, 2022, 09:03:56 PM
I remember you being optimistic in April when I said Bitcoin will touch $16k by End of Year.
Not a good year for whole world economy as for now, maybe try to adapt as per the situation.

$9k is not so far from $16k when we can go from $69k to $16k.

In October I was already said that 8k is the worse case scenario, still, even then, I was thinking that we're late in the crypto winter and we will probably not touch that.
Since the 19k of October the current 16k is not so bad if we think in terms of going down, but I was expecting we will start going up...

So in January we may see 9k you say... and then what? Should I start asking like the newbies about the end of this bear market: are we there yet?  Cheesy
1503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I'm just curious on: December 30, 2022, 08:53:16 PM
I've never seen anyone talk about this before so I think it's better to ask for a straight answer, can Asic miners do double mining? I know its possible on Graphic cards but is it possible to mine two different coins on an Asic miner? For example BTC + BCH or BCD.

If different coins have implemented in their code the same mining algorithm, same hardware and probably same software should be able to mine any of those coins at a time.
If, on the other hand you say about merged mining, ie mining both in the same time, I think that it's not only that they have to the same algorithm, I think that they also have to have something extra implemented to allow merged mining. Plus the mining pools may also have to know about it.
I have some old memories on the early days of Litecoin + Dogecoin merged mining, but they're fuzzy, so better explanations may be needed.
1504  Economy / Reputation / Re: My ignore list got a Christmas cleanup on: December 30, 2022, 03:54:45 PM
That in itself is tantamount to blackmail.

You are only partly correct. In this case I've understand is reasons, since I've been there too. I've also had moments I thought that Jerry may be a spammer (I was not that certain, still...). Later on it has become clearer to me that he was just a guy that felt insecure about his every step, not an actual forum spammer.

So imho it's one of the few accounts who might deserve a second chance. I guess that we don't share this opinion, still, as I said, I understand his.
It may not matter much, Jerry hasn't posted since October (or at least he didn't in the subs not ignored by me).
1505  Other / Meta / Re: Careless copying of forum links redirects you to Binance on: December 30, 2022, 12:44:43 PM
b i t o c i n t a l k . o r g

Yeah, there are far too many careless people who write bitocin, etherium and so on.
itcointalk is not even the worse.

I don't find it concerning for now since, as said, it's not a malicious site for now.
Plus I don't think that are too many falling for this. Even the newbies may already have account at Binance, and then I think that this referral will not be taken into account.


The only problem is that it can easily become malicious in the future if the owner finds out that he is not earning much from those ref links and decides to impersonate websites and do phishing.
1506  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 50% Down Move Incoming? on: December 30, 2022, 12:37:22 PM
The accumulation phase obviously has to last for some time, and those who have knowledge, power and money definitely want to maintain that phase as long as possible because their bags are never full enough.

This is one of the bits I've missed, I guess. Also I've seen signs that the global economy seems to be recovering somewhat, or at least is not going full speed towards the edge.
My calculations were expecting a shorter crypto winter and less stiff bull market.
I've also matched the length of the bear market with the previous one (I know, it's not enough data, clearly), and my calculations said that Q4 2022 should be the end of this crypto winter.
I don't know if the math was wrong or I've also missed this or that on the way, .. it doesn't matter much now anymore...
1507  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Anyone have been trade with oultrade.com on: December 30, 2022, 12:10:03 PM
but I can’t withdraw the BTC out to my other wallet, the oultrade required to have additional deposit USD700 on each wallet ( seller and buyer ) before it can be withdrawn

I've never used that platform, but from my experience all platforms that require you to deposit more money in order to withdraw the money you should already have there are scam.
Sorry.
1508  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin + Electrum server + Block explorer under Windows (with WSL and Debian) on: December 30, 2022, 11:18:23 AM
I've done some tests with having an username and a password for RPC in Bitcoin Core instead of cookie file and I will post them here in case somebody wants to do that.
I will comment out (not delete) the config lines related to RPC cookie file.
Let's say that the username will be UsErNaMe and the password will be PaSsWoRd (please use much better ones though, just I would avoid using # or : in them).

This would make x:\BitcoinDataDir\bitcoin.conf (see this post) look like:
Code: (bitcoin.conf)
txindex=1
server=1
rpcbind=127.0.0.1
rpcallow=127.0.0.1
#rpccookiefile=.mycookie
rpcuser=UsErNaMe
rpcpassword=PaSsWoRd

For Electrs, the content of $HOME/electrs/target/release/electrs.toml (see this post) will become:
Code: (electrs.toml)
#cookie_file = "/mnt/x/BitcoinDataDir/.mycookie"
auth="UsErNaMe:PaSsWoRd"
daemon_dir = "/mnt/x/BitcoinDataDir"
daemon_rpc_addr = "127.0.0.1:8332"
daemon_p2p_addr = "127.0.0.1:8333"
db_dir = "/mnt/y/ElectrsData"
network = "bitcoin"
electrum_rpc_addr = "127.0.0.1:50001"
#verbose = 2 -> obsolete, was working with version 0.9.0, no longer works in 0.9.3
#use log-filters for version 0.9.3+
log_filters = "INFO"
server_banner = "Electrs @ NeuroticFish, yay!"

And for BTC RPC Explorer, $HOME/btc-rpc-explorer/.env (see this post) becomes:
Code: (.env)
BTCEXP_BASEURL=/exp/
BTCEXP_BITCOIND_HOST=127.0.0.1
BTCEXP_BITCOIND_PORT=8332
#BTCEXP_BITCOIND_COOKIE=/mnt/X/BitcoinDataDir/.mycookie
BTCEXP_BITCOIND_USER=UsErNaMe
BTCEXP_BITCOIND_PASS=PaSsWoRd
BTCEXP_BITCOIND_RPC_TIMEOUT=5000
BTCEXP_ADDRESS_API=electrum
BTCEXP_ELECTRUM_SERVERS=tcp://127.0.0.1:50001
BTCEXP_ELECTRUM_TXINDEX=true
BTCEXP_SLOW_DEVICE_MODE=false
BTCEXP_PRIVACY_MODE=true
BTCEXP_NO_RATES=true

However, as said in Electrs pages, Electrs is meant for local networks, not exposed to the internet. So this setup is still not safe for the "outer world".
For that you'll probably need Blockstream's fork of electrs and maybe mempool space as explorer. And, clearly, SSL.
I wanted to make this clear, since some may expect that using Bitcoin Core RPC with user/password simply makes everything safe.
1509  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 50% Down Move Incoming? on: December 30, 2022, 10:33:31 AM
I really thought that by now we would be already in an incipient bull market. I was wrong.
Now I try to gather all the info I can get in order to get a glimpse of how long would this crypto winter still last.
OP idea is not easy to dismiss as crazy since the worse case scenario is some 8-10k in this cycle and we didn't touch that. I thought that we will not get there though...

I will be looking for whatever happens in 9th of January, let's see if OP charts / ideas are any good Wink
I still hope they're wrong, but all seems to go wrong with my plans lately...
1510  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin decimals. Is 1.00000000 Bitcoin the same as 1.000000000000 Bitcoin? on: December 30, 2022, 09:51:55 AM
ill give you a hint 50 becomes 0.05

You had better days with your answers, really.

And no, 50 would not become 0.05. 50 would become 50.0000.
The question is about replacing 1 satoshi with 1.0000 satoshi, not with 0.0001 satoshi.
Your "math" would work only if such a change would be done by monkeys instead of programmers. And it's not the case.
1511  Other / Meta / Re: Undo and Redo Symbols on the Standard Tools Bar in BTT on: December 30, 2022, 09:32:39 AM

Interestingly, I've never had your problems. And I post sometimes from the phone too.

You should keep in mind that the forum is not an advanced text editor, it's not Word or so (also making it so would most probably hurt the users who use Tor and stripped down browsers for the sake of their privacy).
Plus, on internet, it's not that unusual to lose your posts due to various errors and problems, it's not specific to this forum.
So it's you who has to learn and improve.

All this being said, the conclusions are:
* there's no need for the changes you proposed
* if you want to write larger text, consider using a software made for that job and then copy-paste it here
* whenever you post here, you should copy the whole post into clipboard before submitting/posting it, so you make sure all is safe. When your error ratio becomes very small, you can stop doing this.
1512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Be careful with new projects that introduce new Stable coins on: December 30, 2022, 09:07:30 AM
Old or new stable coins, no matter; people should be aware that in most (or all?) cases the value (price) listed for them is artificial and they have to trust the issuer that the value will hold.
While stable coins do have their use in the ecosystem (fast transfer of value), their use as safe heaven against bitcoin's bear market is overly risky (just think of what has happened with Terra).
It's always wise to keep money in stable coins as little time as possible.
1513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We have been told: Invest only Extra money in bitcoin on: December 29, 2022, 10:23:38 PM
I wonder how many people instead have the belief in Bitcoin and are buying by making
cuts elsewhere while not having the disposable income they can afford to lose?

You'd be surprised. You seem to underestimate human greed (or hunger?). Far too many do think that Bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme. Far too many hear about bitcoin from the wrong sources and jump in without knowing what they're doing.
I would not be surprised if some of those make a choice between getting a better pair of shoes and buying bitcoin in a hope to earn some extra funds (in the near future) to make the things more bearable...  Undecided
1514  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos: is it possible to get an exception from Cloudflare for scrapers? on: December 29, 2022, 10:08:09 PM
May be I can trust Loyce.club, the same with Ninjastics or BPIP but if we give them advantage over others then we are creating double standard.  Especially when this forum is about an economy like Bitcoin, we really need to be careful about what information we post and who keep copies of our information.

You do have a point about the double standard, but I guess that it's not so difficult to make a page explaining the situation and everybody who wants to have a scraper can get his IP whitelisted, for example, as long as it's an okay user of the forum.
Let's get real, especially these 3 scrapers help the forum a lot, filling the gaps with features we don't have.. for example because the forum software is old.

I did miss the notifications today, so maybe I am somewhat biased, but I think that it would be nice to not have many problems like this.
However, I have a feeling that it was a bug/mishap, not an intentional blockade, so maybe everything can go on as usual.
Of course, I understand OP's frustration. He will probably need to do extra work because of all this so he can feed his tool correctly with the missing data... so let's not be too harsh on him either. It's okay to ask; whether it will be granted or not... that's a different story and I trust theymos that he will see this topic and take the right decision.
1515  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do I sign Message? on: December 29, 2022, 09:43:09 PM
What wallet are you using?

I am not using any wallet for now. I am still looking for money to invest, once I have small cash in my hand then I will use it to test run the Wallet I will open. As for now I am still on walletless. But planning to  have it early next year.  Okay I will do as you said, I will be reading it for sometimes to understand it fully, really as for now nothing is entering the brain. Everything is just vacuum.

I really appreciate your concern love.

You can install and use a bitcoin wallet even if you don't own bitcoins.
The point is that if you have a wallet (a proper one) then you can use (the private key of) one of your addresses from your wallet in order to sign a message. A good wallet can do that for you easily, with little interaction.
That's why the question was what wallet you use: because the way of signing a message may differ a bit from wallet to wallet.
1516  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It Is Possible To Invest In Crypto Currency Without Buying Any Coins. on: December 29, 2022, 09:39:02 PM
While I don't understand why would somebody (especially an individual) risk their money on various "products" wrapped around bitcoin instead of buying the "real thing" (for corporations the situation may differ, that's why I said individual), there are already a couple of directions, from ETFs, futures and similar financial products to stocks of businesses that have acquired bitcoin. For individuals even "buying bitcoin" at PayPal or Revolut is actually not the real deal (afaik they still sell only IOUs).
Also there were shares (or similar iirc) to be bought at El Salvador's bitcoin venture, but you can look up in the forum to read how bad they are.
These financial products linked to bitcoin can be nice/correct ones or can be some complicated products containing more fees and booby traps than means to earn money.
So be very careful. I still recommend going for the real deal - bitcoin - even if that means you have to learn a bit of this or that and also acquire a hardware wallet.
1517  Economy / Reputation / Re: My ignore list got a Christmas cleanup on: December 29, 2022, 09:20:12 PM
@NeuroticFish, such a nice way to wish Merry Christmas while throwing away grudges and hard feelings out of your heart and mind for the users on your ignore list (especially for dkbit98).

I think that something was misunderstood. dkbit98 was never on my ignore list. But he warned me some months ago that if don't ignore / I keep answering to Jerry he will add me to his ignore list.
So Jerry was on my ignore list for a while (although I am still not perfectly and 100% sure it was the right decision), but he's out of that list again.
This is why I've notified him specifically. That's all.

LOL, really? I think most of them are no longer living on the forum.

Exactly. Most of those spamming for some pennies may be long gone (and others coming, no worries) and the few ones remaining may have learned their ways and have become meaningful by then.
1518  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How badly can natural disasters stop mining operations? on: December 29, 2022, 09:13:11 PM
Let's say that the difficulty adjustment (that I forgot to mention about TBH) takes place right after the hashrate has dropped significantly, won't the small miners still stand a chance at trying their hands on getting a block or more?
I'm not saying that they go for solo mining, my main purpose is to know that if a big herd of small miners (more than 100k or maybe more) go ahead and try their best to earn something out of this opportunity (only if difficulty adjusts down quickly), will there be a possibility they make some bucks against their mining activity?

The difficulty adjustment period is about 2 weeks. If the hashrate drops to half after one week, then there will still be 2 weeks until next adjustment.
Of course, it can happen very close to the adjustment block/moment, but the chances are small.
However, if the difficulty goes down very much then yes, probably smaller miners will have a chance again. They may need pools be adapted for them though.
But I would not be hoping for such situations because then a business with a lot of dormant (less profitable) ASICs can fire them up and perform a 51% attack. Risky.
1519  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How badly can natural disasters stop mining operations? on: December 29, 2022, 08:56:58 PM

Related to the question in topic title, the answer would be: pretty badly, depending on the magnitude of the disaster and how much of the earth would be affected. I mean that if something like what killed the dinosaurs will happen, I'd say that mining will be in trouble. Possibly humanity too.

Do you think that some day, if miners are to stop their mining for a longer period, maybe a week or a month (very least/rare chances of this to happen), will it become an opportunity for small miners to merge and mine and try their luck at finding a block when the big numbers are out of the game for some time?

Your question tells only one thing: you should read much more before posting.
If a big number of miners go offline (or get stopped) the chances are pretty big the difficulty will remain high. So the small miners will not really stand a chance.
The small miners can chip in only after the difficulty adjustment has kicked in and reduced the difficulty significantly. This may take long(er) if the hash rate has dropped greatly...
1520  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE on: December 29, 2022, 08:47:54 PM
It's important to understand how crypto works, coins itself cannot be blacklisted. It's the wallet that are blacklisted. And as I said, these transactions are 99.99% auto rejected.

I think that it's simply a small difference between the ways you two see the things. You can block an address from sending you money (black list it). But I think that what was meant in that question was that if certain input(s) are declared to be stolen (doesn't matter how) and you have received those coins (or parts of that), and you will not handle them because they're stolen... what will you do next, seize them (under whatever reasons) or return them to the originating address, or maybe something else?
As an addition, I guess that the question is about money directly linked to a theft, not money washed through 1000s of addresses in many years after a theft.
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