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1801  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine President suspects Treason on: July 20, 2022, 02:29:56 PM
After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 
I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

Another "precision posting" by the usual trolls. Which colonels were killed.. in "your thinking"?
Head of the Armament and Logistics Service of the Ukrainian Air Force, Colonel Oleg Makarchuk, Colonel of the Ukrainian Air Force Dmitry Burdiko and high-ranking officer of the Air Force Konstantin Puzyrenko. Given that Ukraine has long had big problems with regular officers, one can understand the sharp reaction of Zelensky, who fired a childhood friend from his position.

So, if they are shown to be alive, that would be a wrong assessment? There does not seem to be any corroboration of any fact stated other that some obscure "sources", seems just like another rumour.
1802  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine President suspects Treason on: July 20, 2022, 08:21:42 AM
He had such a narcotic dream, what do you have against it?

Narcotic dream my ass. Of course there are traitors in Ukraine (like everywhere else I guess). Kherson was pretty much handed over by a few traitors and it could happen again because there are always people that may take advantage of situations like this.

But if you want to speak of narcotics...



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As the world leaders sat down for their first meeting of the three-day summit on Sunday, Johnson asked: "Jackets on? Jackets off? Shall we take our clothes off?"

"We all have to show that we're tougher than Putin," Johnson joked, suggesting the G7 leaders should "show them our pecs."

"Let's wait for the picture," Trudeau responded, adding: "We're going to get the bare-chested horseback riding display."

"Oh yes. Horseback riding at its best," von der Leyen chimed in.

After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 
I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

Another "precision posting" by the usual trolls. Which colonels were killed.. in "your thinking"?
1803  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Now Demands Rubles For Grain As World’s Largest Wheat Exporter on: July 20, 2022, 07:47:50 AM
The RF is trying to make the rouble more attractive to the international markets. This could work to an extent if they had a wide - very wide - international group of significant countries doing the same. As it is now, even if grain, gas and oil have to be paid in roubles to RF, most institutions and countries will not "hold" roubles. These would be bought when needed.

The main reason is that the rouble is not stable and is just another political tool that depends on what Adolf Putin decides on the day.

Beyond that, such an alliance would be nearly impossible, since China would rather build it around the yuan and many countries would simply not want anything to do with it.

I do not see this attempt by RF being successful nor having any significant effect.
1804  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 20, 2022, 07:30:15 AM
The reason Putin calls Ukraine 'Nazi' is seen in the turmoil of the change of ambassador to Germany

Meanwhile, the planned rotation of the allied forces in the Donbas seems to have ended, and with it the operational pause. I think in the near future we should expect a significant increase in the intensity of fighting along the entire line of contact.

While the RF speaks of "rotation", the young try to avoid the draft at all costs - they do not want to be "rotated" into planting pots - their trust in Adolf Putin's promises is inexistent. Why could that be?

The official sources in UK (take with a pinch of salt, like anything official in times of war) speak of insufficient RF troops to carry offensive actions in a wide front. The RF is limited to a very expensive and slow terror and demolition war. Perhaps some of the "precission posters" here may want to join?

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Meanwhile the glorious armed forces of Russia have successfully used a SAM against their own Su-34.


They also destroyed HIMARS loader vehicle. But there is one problem - such thing doesn't even exist Smiley
https://gagadget.com/en/war/147748-the-russian-ministry-of-defense-claimed-to-have-destroyed-the-himars-loader-which-actually-does-not-exist/

Another example of "precision publishing".

Adolf Putin insists he is not a Nazi, but meanwhile:
https://deadline.com/2022/07/russian-marina-ovsyannikova-detained-moscow-1235071303/

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Marina Ovsyannikova, the Russian journalist who daringly interrupted a live TV broadcast to protest her country’s invasion of Ukraine, was briefly detained by Russian authorities for a second time over the weekend.

News of her arrest broke Sunday on her Telegram account after friends posted that she had been picked up by police in Moscow while cycling and was bundled into a white van.

1805  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 18, 2022, 08:06:11 AM

May I see the video of the public sodomy? I have just seen one with an old lady kicking the wrapped dude, but not anything like what you mention.

I don't have all day to seek vids for you to get your rocks off, but here's a couple showing, 'how they do'.  They being a swath of Ukrainian society apparently.
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Of course, why would you need to prove anything of what you say. Too much time.. much better to just send walls of vaguely connected videos and pictures over and over for the 10 second span of attention people.

Again, you specifically mentioned public sodomy, none of you videos show public sodomy, just "street justice" (which I do no support for avoidance of doubt) against some individuals that may have been caught stealing in time of war or looting - usually, the punishment in time of war is death. The one in which an individual hits a female may or may not have been staged as there is no context other than a guy with a flag on his shoulder.

The rest is just you "not having time" to proof anything.

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Hero spies? Isn't that mutually exclusive? Or just a new term? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17857369/ukraine-peace-negotiator-spy-shot-russia-kireev/


And i'm sure i'm missing many other top ranking UA officials killed/arrested/sacked for treason. Is there anyone left in SBU who's not a spy? How do people yelling genocide explain all these treason cases at the highest level of government? If this is happening in the top ranks what's happening bellow them? Orc mind control drugs from Putin?

What is there to explain? Either they turned sides and were caught or they were actually framed or there was a political reason for it. No different from any other country.

So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?
Yeah, it's completely normal to get detained Russian flag and making provocations. It's not first time when you post this shit. As I already said, war didn't started on 24th of February. It started 8 years ago when Russia occupied Crimea and invaded Donbas. So, it's not surprising that someone Russian flag isn't accepted positively.
BTW, he is actually Russian and he didn't just ''disappear'' Smiley
And how about Russia. Now they are so afraid of Ukrainian flag that now they're repainting buildings, fences or benches if it have blue-yellow colour.

Yes Branko, just as you would have done with someone wearing a "Glory to Milosevic" flag in your nose while he massacred. If you use RF symbols in Ukraine you are not going to be awarded the cross of civil merit.
1806  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 16, 2022, 10:40:40 PM

 But I take good note: Kherson, in your view, is Ukrainian.


Contrary to your view, where its Russian?

You have not read carefully. In my view it is an RF occupied territory belonging to Ukraine. The media is a collaborator of the RF, either voluntarily or by force.

I hope the OP does not get 15 years for saying that it is Ukrainian.

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What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?


So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?

Yes Branko.  You get detained for mentioning Russia or simply wearing a Russian T Shirt in Ukrain. That's exactly what happened. Roll Eyes



May I see the video of the public sodomy? I have just seen one with an old lady kicking the wrapped dude, but not anything like what you mention.
1807  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 15, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
But #totallynotgenocide, right?

The competence of the International Criminal Court (ICC) includes the prosecution of persons guilty of genocide. If there are facts, they should be presented there and carefully examined. Because in the same way you can be told that Ukrainian troops are purposefully killing pro-Russian civilians.
[...]
In Europe and the US, Russian central television is squeamishly called Putin’s propaganda, but the "Russian zombie TV" is light years behind the Western media in terms of brainwashing the population, and the editors of the Western media should be prosecuted for slander and inciting ethnic hatred.
[...]

Genocide is not only killing, it is about the 2 million people deported from Ukraine and the forced "nationalisation" of Ukrainians in occupied areas. Facts and proof are easy, as the RF is not being particularly effective at hiding.

As far as presenting and following due process, well... Adolf Putin will only answer if he ever looses political grip in the RF -in which case he will have much bigger problems than being judged.


The Ukrainian authorities lie that they are only targeting military infrastructure in Russian-controlled areas with artillery strikes. Europeans and Americans should know that women and children have been killed and injured for many days from weapons that are shipped to Ukraine from the West (Warning! Violent content! 1, 2, 3).


Caption on the photo:
Code:
"10-year-old Veronika Badina died during the shelling of Donetsk from French CAESAR howitzers.
The French government is helping Ukraine not to defend itself, but to kill."


This shows a picture of a boy under medical care. Nothing else. The linking to "Caesar Howis", European aid and any other claims are simply a claim without any credibility. Given that is published in Ukranian in RF media, along with "an RF jet bombing Snake Island" and other similar claims, the credibility is zero.

As for the second video, again, it could be anything you want it to be.

https://rusdozor-ru.translate.goog/2022/07/07/voenkory-i-tg-kanaly-o-situacii-na-donbasse-i-ruine-07-07-2022-utro-den-obnovlyae

On the additional loading of all this... Why can the RF attack and Ukraine just "defend"? Military targets in or outside the RF that are being used to support the offensive are legit irrespectively of the type of conventional weapon used.


On July 12, 2022, a correspondent of the Ukrainian TV channel VTV Plus published a video report on YouTube about a Ukrainian missile attack on Nova Kakhovka (Kherson region).
The text of her message, translated into English:
Code:
"A large number of destruction of urban infrastructure.
We see that they hit shops, markets, bus stations, churches, houses.
A very large number of destruction. Now it is known for sure about seven dead and more than seventy injured civilians.
All houses look so scary now, services are working, they get (people) from under the rubble, firefighters put out fires, the police work.
An operational headquarters has been created to provide assistance to the victims.
Now the decision of the temporary city administration has been made to pay
400 thousand rubles ($ 7000) to wounded and two million rubles ($ 35000) to families of the victims.
I would like to say that this is, of course, an unprecedentedly terrible story,
because Ukraine, like real terrorists, is simply bombing peaceful cities with American weapons."


What you call an Ukrainian channel is this: https://imi.org.ua/en/news/kherson-s-collaborationist-channel-vtv-begins-broadcasting-via-russian-satellite-i46400

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Kherson TV channel "VTV+" began broadcasting via a russian satellite. This is another confirmation of the channel's cooperation with the russian invaders. This was reported by the National Council on Television and Radio Broadcasting.

You are shameless speaking about brainwashing in the same post you quote this. But I take good note: Kherson, in your view, is Ukrainian.

@suchmoon, returning to the question you asked about a genocide. Perhaps you are not aware, but in Russia the third person in the state is a native of Ukraine, Valentina Matvienko, however, just like Vladimir Medinsky, an assistant to the Russian president. This does not really fit into the version that the Russians hate Ukrainians so much that they are ready to exterminate them as a nation. A few days ago, Putin signed a decree on granting Russian citizenship to all residents of Ukraine in a simplified manner. Remind me of at least one such case in world history when the government of one country sought to destroy people of a certain nationality, but at the same time gave them passports.



The colonization of Latin America by Spain: Either you leave your culture and join mine or I kill you. Sometimes both.

Yes it is an attempt to destroy a nationality, very clearly. From being of Ukrainian identity, Adolf Putin offers "freely" to become a "Russian" (RF citizen at least) at least in name. But, above all, becoming an RF citizen confers no right. You cannot vote nor change your government, you cannot speak freely, you can be drafted for the army, you have restrictions travelling, you have to endure the RF system,...  So it is like an offer of free chains with pretty much no rights. On top of that Adolf Putin will eventually argue that there are "Russians" that need to be "liberated" and justify his next aggression.

All this is in the thin line between aggression and pure genocide.

Granting the RF passport is an attempt to "filtrate". Those Ukrainians who do not request it are "self filtered", also it undermines the right of the Ukrainian State (basically, is an offer to become a turncoat for free), and if you need examples of turncoats I have plenty.

Since you are trying to make a point here with "Germany", let me tell you a few details.  Cheesy
[...] Germany has become far too dependant from Russian Oil and especially Gas!
Germany can replace Russian Gas but Putin has lost a big market, where he can sell his Gas - probably forever or at least as long as his corrupt circle is in power.
Russia will take the most damage long-term as Germany and Europe are slowly replacing Russian Oil and Gas.
Russia will lose Europe / Germany as a place, where he can sell his fossil fuels.
[...]

The mere fact of living in a country doesn't make its resident a priori a recognized expert in the foreign economy and politics of this state.
Are you sure that you yourself didn't become an object of "Scholz TV" propaganda, regarding your expectations, which do not at all coincide with the Germany possibilities?
The Bild experts do not share your bravado about the refusal of Russian gas. About replacing Russian gas - I don’t know what you are counting on, but German residents may soon start using wood instead of gas, like a hundred years ago.


Nah... they will just switch on a few nuclear centrals or buy the nuclear energy from France. The problem will not be the heating, but the industry that may take a hit during one or worst case, two years. It is bad, but it would be even worse to have Adolf Putin any closer to the EU, and more costly. No winners to this war other than US, the Arabs,...

While you're trying to make fun of Putin (judging by the many emoticons), Russia is now making more money from increased energy sales to China and India. As Aristotle said: "Nature abhors a vacuum".
For comparison, for the whole of 2021, Germany, being the largest importer of Russian energy, bought gas and oil from Russia at a commune price of 20 billion euros. Moreover, many Russian citizens yearn for a speedy shutdown of all of Europe from Russian gas in response to sanctions, as well as for numerous calls of Western officials to defeat Russia on the battlefield; for the supply of weapons, military instructors, intelligence data and other military assistance to Ukraine.
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While China and India will keep on buying (at the right price, do not forget it) the Oil & Gas from Siberia, the infrastructure required to switch from Europe to China or India is just not there. The massive pipelines that connect Siberia with Europe are simply not there in the east, take millions to build and years of treaties, design and construction. Much more than renting floating gas liquefaction facilities.

The RF is going to dive into a recession. The oil price is volatile and, if the recession in Europe and some slowing in US kicks in, the RF accounts will go deep red. Since you like Aristoteles:

“Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime.” - Pass this up your chain of controllers to Adolf Putin.

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When it became uncovered, that Germany is very dependant from Russian Gas, some whistleblowers leaked documents about the corruption of pro-Kremlin politicans in local administration structures and how they had enabled Putin. Large parts of the infrastructure of Gas pipelines and Gas storages were sold to Russia and local politicians were travelling frequently to Moscow to make Putin happy (make German energy supply dependant from Russia).
There was a large network of local politicians involved in pro Russia stuff and they made a shitload of money.
Gazprom even influenced local decisionmakers directly:

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IMHO, not just "local" decision makers, but at leas one Chancellor:

https://www.dw.com/en/ex-german-chancellor-gerhard-schröder-turns-down-role-on-gazprom-board/a-61920141

A bit too late uh?





1808  Economy / Gambling / Re: Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms? on: July 14, 2022, 03:38:13 PM


If there is any other way aside from violence, it must be pursued to keep the peace and harmony of the places. However, Putin chose to wage war which has so many consequences. Sure, they do what they deem is right and necessary. But to what extend? I just find it saddening and maddening that they will do everything just to prove they are right even if it's at the expense of the civilians and innocent people.

In reality the This WAR is new way of Making Money for some Countries Name You better Know, Some Countries are using Ukraine as Side Pupet to fight with Russia as they cant Directly attack Due to Russia's Strong Reaction and These countries in back can't afford it.

Reason simple and clear that If they will try to directly involve then it eill not be War of countries it will be War of Blocks China & Russia is already Dominating Asia & Gulf countries by their Allies so Europe has no chance because this time Russia is not alone agaisnt them.

Proof of Side Pupet : Nato Signed a Contract with Ukraine to $25B support in form of Military Equipments, from there you can see thatSome countries want to continue this all situation because $25B are not Funded for their Social Development its for Weapons

Edited: In answer of the Thread Main Question I will Answer that I will used to Always Bycot all the Gambling Platforms as i don't preffer Gambling its Haram in Islamic Economic

There is something that I have always wanted to say and it is that due to religion or favoritism towards a country it is never good to say it, because feelings can be hurt, in any war on both sides there will be deaths, people suffering, and this is something that only they they live, we see everything from a perspective far removed from what each country in question lives, in any war there is a lot of money associated with it, and this is a business model, which had not been activated and apparently is somewhat lucrative, if we attack the economic branches of any country, the only ones who will go wrong are the people, their people, not politicians, much less rulers, they have everything insured, I think this is the reason why I do not support a boycott of any country or Russia , or Ukraine or any other, if nothing else for money there are some who kill, now this is something worse.


Boycotting the RF sites is about stoping the war. There is no war without a great amount of expenses. If a country runs out of funds for war, the war will stop, and that suffering and pain that you talk about will also stop. This is not about "favouritism", it is about stopping a country that, beyond any doubt, has started is actively waging a war against another. Any tax received by RF is a bullet.
1809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Casino tokens such as BFG, OWL or TFS on: July 14, 2022, 03:34:43 PM
Tokens in general feel to risky for my taste. I have been a frequent investor during the ICOs of the 2018, and while overall I had a good outcome, many of them just went to zero. I am saying this because casino tokens are not that different from a million other utility tokens that have been around since ethereum allowed the issuance of ERC-20 stuff. Not the best idea, it is linked to a centralised entity that may fail. Use only in limited amounts and only if you really love the site.
1810  Economy / Services / Re: Poker Courses For Sale on: July 14, 2022, 03:31:03 PM
You registered on this forum in less than 2 hours ago and your brought up poker courses, is that not funny and look more like scam attempt? I hope no one will listen to you because anyone can easily send you money and you can scam the person. If you scam the person, you have nothing to lose. But I am surprised because this is the first time I heard of poker courses when it can be learned freely. Also if someone do not know how to play poker, there are other gambling types that can be gone for like roulette, dice, sport, dog racing, hourse racing and many others.

Yes, I am afraid that in this forum the credibility of a newbie selling around is very limited bro. Particularly if you come about promising that your courses are specifically designed to beat the "micro" which is pretty much promising that you are telling everyone your "secret strategy" to win loads of money. Logically, if that were true, you would not be selling but sipping daikyris. Go to facebook, you will do better.
1811  Economy / Gambling / Re: How do you know how to trust online sportsbooks? on: July 14, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
Of course, nothing is perfect. But, as you said it yourself, this forum is a good place to get reliable info about a sportsbook. Yes, there are sites doing honest reviews, but most websites with casino ratings hardly can be trusted. What I've noticed is that they can include 3-4 really good sites in their top 10, and then put on the 2nd, or even on the first place, the shady site that paid them, and since there's no forum there, you won't see any objections.
I think mostly they post dubious sites for referral links. I do not think that such reviewers are often paid for "job". We can see paid reviews on major review sites, but their review mostly shows small problems to increase the credibility of the reviewer and the casino. It's better to look here for what the players are saying.
You made a nice and true statement. The paid review sites are into business and making money and therefore they are somethings bent to be biase in order to make more money.
They will list the few trusted ones and you will believe them that you have arrived and they will introduce the shady ones among.

When I gave up was one one review site rated 1xbit so high. It was then I became convinced about the biaseness and shady deals that are done behind the scene to deceive us.
A biased good attitude towards one site and listing the shortcomings of competitor sites should be on bookmaker review sites and in general all sites in the gambling industry.  Think about it yourself - so you spent time and money, organized a site with reviews and now you have to earn money somehow, or at least recoup the costs.  And this can only be done if there are sources of income.  And these sources are practically only casinos that want positive reviews and good advertising.  And here there are two options at once - to praise the one who paid, and to scold and list the shortcomings of his competitors, who did not pay. 
Everything is very simple. 

Therefore, read the reviews of real players here in BTT and you will understand everything correctly and objectively. Smiley

A lot of the problems become from the culture of having reviews done by professionals and even people who are incentivised in a perverse way to leave good reviews. Even youtubers and other influencers have a price and they certainly can make anything look very good or even try to appear very objective while actually not giving a correct impression.

Best advice: use this forum for it.
1812  Economy / Gambling / Re: A New Era for Betting - (After Corona Circumstances) on: July 14, 2022, 03:24:48 PM
It may have happened that some people who were adept at live sports betting or even at not live betting on other events that occur in the "real world" had to find different ways of gambling for fun and enjoying the excitement. That is, people could have passed from football betting to on-line poker or even slots given the opportunity. Also, some people gambling with state aids during covid may not have the same budget not time to dedicate now.
1813  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Deep dive intro culture of russia-Ukraine war on: July 14, 2022, 02:52:42 PM
I am one who thinks that this war has a lot to do with resources. Not as much capturing the Ukrainian resources (mineral, oil, gas, food, water,... ) but rather about not allowing those resources to actually being put to use by Europe in collaboration with Ukraine. But there is a lot more about the war:

- From Adolf Putin's perspective, his conceptual map of the RF is large cities in Russia (mainly Moscow & St Petersb.) + others to be ignored, dominated or controlled. This is based on how the draft and the recruitment for the army is conducted and the casualties that prove that nationalities and soldiers from economically deprived and politically ignored regions are killed more often.

This strategy is not specific to this war, it is just the way RF wages war with Putin. Offering salaries that make a big difference for people from minorities and poorer regions so that they go and fight the minorities in other countries and kill each other while the Russians of Moscow reap the earnings and manage "Russia Inc." Soldiers will sign-up as they may simply not have any other perspective of progress.

Just imagine an scenario in which the regions of RF that really hold the economic resources (Siberia) decided that they would be better-off without someone in Moscow telling them what to do. Would it not be interesting, it is much better to keep them ignorant, poor and let them kill among themselves.

- As of today "Russia Inc.", similarly to "Saudi Arabia Inc." is mainly a petroleum export based economy. It is not the only export, but it is a huge export and Putin's RF tends to wage war when oil prices are high. The EU does not expect the RF to respond to sanctions. It expects to drastically reduce the flow of money that is required to pay the troops, the logistics and the production. More than 50% of energy exports go to China + Germany. More than 50% of exports are oil & energy.

To put it plainly, Ukraine is in the middle between point A and point B in the oil and gas trade. A huge mega-project (Nordstream 2) has been built just to skip that "problem", but a corridor between RF and "Transnistria" would allow a route right into the norther Balkans area, with the chance to get strategic dominance of the area as well. Needless to say that cutting Ukraine from the sea would give a 100% leverage to RF over the Ukrainian economy apart of the side advantage of having more frost free ports.

I believe that US & UK have been very keen in not letting this happen. The resources used to protect Odessa allowed for the sinking of the Moskva (which I personally believe had plenty of US support in the operation that is NOT being as prolific in the east).

- I think that the US has a mixed interest. They can certainly supply "attack" capabilities. The moment that HIMARS were supplied, many advanced munition and weapons depots "mysteriously" exploded. And that is without the 300 km specialist munition yet being supplied. This is the US solution to not shooting into RF territory but also deplete the front of shelling and fuel supplies.

Anyway, many angles in this war. Not everything is what it seems. I am now trying to make sense of what will happen with the nearly 2 million Ukrainians have been "moved", many presumably by force (so deported), to RF territory. Will they be used to reconstruct the flattened "new republics"? used as slave labour? We may not know in decades.

To add, nations usually take a while to assume they are no longer an Empire, it usually takes an event that evidences this situation. With the Romans, it was the fall of the Capital, with Byzantium it was the siege of Byzantium (Constantinople, Istanbul), with Spain the loss of Cuba and Philippines, the UK has not realised it yet  Grin ... Wil this failed war with Ukraine the point in history in which the RF starts to figure out their new place in the world?

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the reason for this war is capitalism

those russians that tried to declare autonomy wanted to found and own and run their own central bank for that they had to undermine the ukrainian state,
it is pretty much the same they did like what the ukrainian baltic and eastern european oligarchs did to the russians.

the eastern europeans want to declare independence from russia but don't allow russians to declare independence from them,

because if the oprthodox russians would do that they would be not able to afford the alliance with the liberal usa. because the west will simply drain them of their labour and no labour would come to them from russia thats why they are screwed. they are the nazis that pretend to fight nazis

I recommend that you look into one more issue - these are the features of the language Smiley
Russian is a nationality. It's like a Korean, a Finn, a Spaniard.

And those who live on the territory of Russia are "inhabitants of Russia".

In English, these two words are identical: and they are written like this "russian", and in the Slavic languages ​​\u200b\u200b(to which Russia is trying to attribute itself so much) it is written differently "pyccкий" (nationality) and "poccиянин" (belonging to Russian citizenship). I'm sure, even without knowing the Slavic languages ​​- you will notice a noticeable difference in spelling

And yet - these words also seem consonant. And in English, they are also written the same way. These are the words "Rus" and "Russia".

The problem is that the historical Slavic Rus (spelled Rus) has nothing in common with Russia (spelled Russia)! They are consonant as sweet and shit Smiley This is the Moscow ulus, in the 17th century they decided to ascribe an element of Slavism to themselves, and try to pass themselves off as true Rus.

Why am I talking about this? Because the war against Ukraine (and earlier - against Moldova, Georgia, ...) is waged not by Russians by nationality, but by citizens of Russia. For example, I am an ethical Russian, but a citizen of Ukraine. And many ethnic Russian citizens of Ukraine are now destroying terrorists from Russia.

In order not to confuse, remember the rule (after you begin to distinguish between these two essentially different concepts, many things will become much more understandable and logical for you):
1. A person who is Russian by nationality - Russian
2. An individual who is a citizen of Russia and the bearer of the concept of the "Russian world" - rashist

Even in English is incorrect to refer to any RF citizen as "Russian" and to the RF as "Russia".

At a certain point I started changing Russia for "the RF" in my posting just because as you say "Russia", the territory, is currently part of a state "the Russian Federation". I should also get used to call the orcs "RF soldiers", as many of them are precisely not Russian as you point out.

I agree, this is Russia and even just Moscow, St Peters and others attributing to themselves the authenticity of "the Russian culture" because it is very easy to sell to the commoners that this is "Western culture" versus "Eastern Culture". It is much more difficult to convince someone to wage war speaking of gas pipes, economy, geostrategy and taxes.

I think that our way of dealing with it should precisely be clear on the economic and strategic objectives that Adolf Putin is trying to achieve, which are unrelated to Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky or borscht.

@KingScorpio states that Ukraine does not allow parts of the territory to become independent and classes these a Russians. In my view, a referendum for independence or even for a certain degree of autonomy is impossible when RF has been providing supplies and organising armed forces in the two "statelets" in Donbas. If they wanted to discuss independence, it would require a de-militarisation and a period of pacific conversations and political discussions to begin with. The invasion is not a solution.


This is the main problem of westerners. They're not a bad people and they don't want to imagine that they faced the problem the same as their granda in the past (Third Reich). It's easier to imagine that it's not about imperialism and fascism.

I meant the Russian "nation", population, or whatever it should be called (not the government or its propagandists). Is the population as a whole hopelessly totalitarian/imperialist, or just transiently brainwashed? They seemingly had the same chance to reach for freedom like everyone else in the former Soviet block in the 1990s and they managed to squander it. On the other hand, they haven't had much (or any really) non-imperialist/non-totalitarian history in the last few hundred years. Can this be fixed in a generation? Two? Three? Will it take a revolution and/or civil war to get there?

Unfortunately, they did not have the same opportunities as everyone else. They come from a totalitarian regime with extremely strong "Intelligence" Services. USSR excelled at keeping their citizens inline even mentally.

Of the pillars of democracy, one often forgotten is education While the former USSR citizens have an excellent level of education in science and, to a point, in may arts and humanities, it is not so in Politics and democracy.

If you think of it, the US, which pretty much self-refers to itself and example of freedom, will have soon a candidate for presidency who has already attempted a coup d'etat and is actually still very much supported by many rich and poor alike. In my view, this is a result of the failure of the US education system to provide sufficient understanding of what is a democracy and how it works to large masses of their citizens (among other thinks I reckon).

Do you think that anyone would be surprised is Trump wins the next US elections and then he decides that the 22nd amendment (rule of having only two mandates) does not really apply to him? Something along the line of "since I was not allowed two consecutive terms due to the stolen elections, I am going to be a candidate again" or "the nation is in such state of danger that, against my will, I need to be here until this is shorted out".

Would that be Trump at his best or not?






1814  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 13, 2022, 10:56:27 PM
This war will have one interesting consequence...I'm curious to see how the world will
react to next USA invasion on sovereign country using false flag

It depends on which country. During the second Irak war they were only able to get on board the UK and a few lightweights such as Portugal, Spain...

TBH, the US tends not to invade using false flags, they just put someone who is more to the taste of their government and the like. When they invade it is usually under their flag, as there are little balances to their actions and typically presidents gain in popularity and have more favourable 24h news cycles when waging wars.
1815  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 12, 2022, 10:39:48 PM

I can attest for a strong confirmation bias. Otherwise, he seems to have seen fight, which means that there is very little chance he will change his mind because that would mean that he has killed and fought for the wrong reasons. It takes a very special individual to recognised big mistakes, so expect a continuous line of "US is bad", "RF is doing the right thing", ...

Also, being soldier (except for psychopaths) requires believing that you are actually fighting for a cause. Forget about him accepting that this war is about the oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR territorial controls. He is all about "fighting the US" and the capitalists.


You didn't read carefully...fact that I was in war and fought against Serbs doesn't mean I have to follow
mainstream narrative...specially because its always simplistic and mostly propaganda BS...both in
our war and this one in Ukraine

Your geopolitical reasons "oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR " are right ones...only problem is that
you intentionally left out other half

I suggest you read few books from William Engdahl and John Perkins



https://www.compact-online.de/oskar-lafontaine-oeffnet-endlich-nord-stream-2/?cookie-state-change=1657633826143


"When will there be a Chancellor who will have the courage to tell Washington this far and no further. Where does this German addiction to submission come from when you see how German journalists and politicians behave towards Washington?

When you think of your own people, there is only one solution: open Nord Stream 2 to prevent the worst. De Gaulle still knew that states have interests, not friends. Just as the Americans have been trying for 100 years to prevent German technology from merging with Russian raw materials (George Friedman), the federal government should finally see that the sanctions are not harming Russia and the USA, but primarily Germany and Europe."

Agreed, US will come out stronger, Europe and - IMO - the RF will come out weaker. I have said it over an over in many posts, there are winners of this war but not in Europe. Of course, Nordstream 2 was built because it would have been fantastic for EU's competitivity, and you are right, the RF and Europe do make excellent partners for many reasons. The obvious problem is that partners have to talk and solve problems peacefully. The moment you start shelling and sending rockets to your neighbours, that dialogue is impossible.

If you think of it, the EU cannot allow the RF to wage a war in Europe and get even more influence in the vicinity of Poland, and just blatantly take over territory from a sovereign state - all while making references to nuclear weaponry, no matter how justified some people may think it is, the answer was inevitable: sanctions, pressure...

The usual Putinists will argue that RF is doing great and becoming bigger and all that crap. The truth is that the war is an economic, diplomatic and strategic disaster for the RF. The difference is that Adolf Putin did choose to start the war instead of trying other things, Europe has been left with no choice but to support Ukraine.

The latest I got is that the EU will consider any RF try to avoid the sanctions a criminal action. This means that from having the assets frozen, the will be simply taken and used for a reconstruction fund for Ukraine. For me that is a very harsh decision: Europe is based on respecting property and law and this does not help.

Needless to say that Europe would rather not have to do any of this, nor risk critical industrial supplies (mostly gas) nor getting in bad terms with a country that could have been a great partner... this is clearly a loose-loose situation for the EU and the RF, no to mention Ukraine of course.


You should have known better the definition of Nazism in order to throw such unfounded and groundless accusations against me. Perhaps I do not have enough emotional involvement in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, due to the great geographical distance from the place of the main development of events. Perhaps in my personal hierarchy of life values, the ideals of humanism and pacifism are not in the most honorable place. But I did not claim that Russians are better than Ukrainians, or Americans, or Germans, or representatives of any other nationalities, if only because I do not like false generalizations. Think about it at your leisure before you sit in a puddle next time.
Things that Russia is doing in Ukraine isn't much different from nazism. For example, filtration camps for Ukrainians from occupied territories. It doesn't remind anything?
When someone else from Ukraine or West would use same rhetoric as you did in previous post, wouldn't you call him nazi? Didn't you talked about "genocide of Russian speaking population in Donbas"? But now when you said that it doesn't matter how many people will have to killed and how many buildings will have to be destroyed, then everything is ok?

I do not call the guy Adolf Putin for nothing. Is not a way of speaking nor a senseless insult. The current RF regime is totalitarian, nationalistic, supremacists, supresses more freedom and balances each day,... It has all the characteristics of a Nazi regime.
1816  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 12, 2022, 09:58:58 AM
Prepare for a 300km buffer zone around any parts of former Ukraine Putin decides to not negotiate back after Zelenski exits the stage?
If it were me, I'd be starting to train Syrian, Hezbollah, and Yemeni teams on use of the Iskandar system.
In other news:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7kxO6oUR7Le/

It is more like that from the borders of Ukraine, deep into the rashist understate, there will be a 300 km non-residential zone Smiley

And about terrorists on a global scale - you reminded me well - after all, these are "ugly children of the USSR / Russia." And I am more than sure that, realizing that soon a noose will be tightened on the thin, flabby neck of the pitiful Fuhrer of the Rashists, he will certainly try to spoil the whole world. Here's the truth, as the latest facts show - most likely the terrorists will abandon the Iskanders, because these missiles suddenly became "boomerangs" - after the start they often fall near the launch site ... And the terrorists of their Hezzballs and others - they are not idiots, this is not the Russian army, they feel sorry for themselves and will not take risks Smiley

Lol, you sound so desperate with such childish posts, how old are you, 8?

Can you explain this
still can't believe we have a Croatian vatnik here lmao the hell is wrong with you dude



I can attest for a strong confirmation bias. Otherwise, he seems to have seen fight, which means that there is very little chance he will change his mind because that would mean that he has killed and fought for the wrong reasons. It takes a very special individual to recognised big mistakes, so expect a continuous line of "US is bad", "RF is doing the right thing", ...

Also, being soldier (except for psychopaths) requires believing that you are actually fighting for a cause. Forget about him accepting that this war is about the oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR territorial controls. He is all about "fighting the US" and the capitalists.


That's what the Persians though when fighting the Greeks, the French and their "Maginot Line", the Germans digging trenches in 1915,... and failed. Generals are always fighting the last war.
1817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 11, 2022, 11:05:44 PM
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Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!

RF is clearing out any possible doubt of how exaggerated were the claims about capabilities, production, efficiency, training and, in general, to their ability to wage a modern war. It is true that the (remaining) chief psychos have learnt the lesson themselves and are somehow managing to coordinate the resources they have - as long as they remain close to their bases in the RF.

But it is also true that the RF status as a superpower is not realistic. The nuclear arsenal is a defensive deterrent, but it does nor provide offensive advantages in a conventional war. The huge arsenal of outdated gunnery provides an advantage, but it requires soldiers willing to risk their lives at a moment in which there is no real threat to the RF.

In respect to the advanced capabilities in rocketry, again, they confer a deterrent in large scale wars, but the cost and quantities involved in waging a conventional war using the latest and most expensive "toys" require endless resources, production capabilities and strong supply chains of critical components.

Overall, I would say that the RF maintains the capability of causing destruction and killing... for now. There are plausible scenarios of oil prices, economical downturns and social unrest that end very badly for Adolf Putin and his gangsters.
1818  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 11, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
The Russians are saving the Donbass from Nazism

"Saved" Donbas (Severodonetsk):
There aren't many things Russians don't bargain for. You either pay full price, no matter how much it costs, or you can't afford it. Sovereignty and freedom from Nazism are on the list of such things, and Russia can afford them.


False argument from top to bottom. The RF was the aggressor, nobody was trying to change or impose anything to the RF. The Nazi argument is false, this war is about geopolitical control of the Gas & Oils corridors and an attempt to re-stablish a no longer existing "USSR" under Adolf Putin.

The RF at this point is becoming a full blown dictatorship. Intellectuals fly, media is silenced, people are prosecuted even if they have are just showing a white paper, main opposition leaders are incarcerated under the hardest conditions.


...
Glad you're having fun too. Grin

You and your people are going to need a lot of sense of humour. Except the thousands of RF soldiers that have been sent to their deaths by your Chiefs Psychos and newly forced drafts in Don & Luh -  planting pots do not need humour.

The rest are going to have plenty of fun under the most severe crisis that the RF has ever experienced. The RF is 40 USD / barrel away from having a massive economic meltdown and there are signs of recession worldwide, so the demand will shrink.

Oh, now that you mention full price... I am afraid Adolf Putin has not informed you properly of the price tag.

Some people have already figured out what you are about to face. Oh and it is not only the poor leaving, just in case you are thinking along "we do not need them" or "those people do not matter"

https://www.businessinsider.com/rich-people-leaving-russia-millionaires-invasion-ukraine-war-2022-6?r=US&IR
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/13/more-than-15000-millionaires-expected-to-leave-russia-in-2022
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More than 15,000 millionaires expected to leave Russia in 2022
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15% of the country's ultrarich population — are expected to leave this year

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/23/many-leave-russia-as-ukraine-war-drags-on
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Criminal adventure’: Ukraine war fuels Russia’s brain drain
Nearly four million left Russia in the first three months of 2022, including IT specialists, journalists, researchers and analysts


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-18/russia-s-economy-slowed-down-more-than-expected-in-first-quarter

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GDP growth slipped to 3.5%, missing median forecast of 3.7%. Economy heads into deep recession amid sanctions over Ukraine

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Russian Economy Faces 10 Years of Recession Without Reforms – Sberbank CEO

Reforms, interesting. The CEO of RF's largest bank (surely unrelated to Putin of course) is saying that the country needs "reforms". What do you make of this?

a) The reforms will consist on less work, better pay, better employment and more social care and services.
b) The reforms will consist on shoving up RF's citizens assess the true cost of this unnecessary war.

You see... there is always a good reason to have a laugh.


1819  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 10, 2022, 10:35:37 PM
"HIMARS" - we haven't even started yet! Smiley

They transmit from the occupied territories - the terrorists are really shocked by the work of HIMARS. The statements of a pitiful bald old man about "rest for the Russian army" are just a reaction to the work of HIMARS - they now do not know how to organize the rear of the army, because. without it, the army simply cannot fight for more than 2-3 days. Further, they become cannon fodder and targets in the dash. And as soon as information about the rear echelons appears, for some reason they all explode Smiley
What will happen when HIMARS starts working!? Smiley
Now Ukraine have HIMARS rockets with distance of about 80km and it's already working very effective, destroying occupants and their ammunition warehouses in occupied territories. Not coincidence that we have so many reports about destroyed warehouses in recent days. But there is reports (unconfirmed oficially yet) that Ukraine will get rockets with shooting range of 300km. Prepare, orcs.

Prepare for a 300km buffer zone around any parts of former Ukraine Putin decides to not negotiate back after Zelenski exits the stage?

If it were me, I'd be starting to train Syrian, Hezbollah, and Yemeni teams on use of the Iskandar system.

In other news:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7kxO6oUR7Le/




One or another weapons systems do not make a big difference unless you can produce them in large enough numbers, which requires a large enough budget and a certain ability to defend your territory against air attacks. Israel is already "uncomfortable" enough to have built the Iron Dome. I am not sure what else do they hold in reserve, including the precise number of ICBMs that they most certainly have.

RE buffer zones and "whatever Putin decides"... well I think your are assuming too much. Wayyy too much.
1820  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 09, 2022, 11:04:08 PM
Remember the Azovstal bunkers full of NATO generals? Well, no one does now, but it was playing on Russian TV at the time as one of the excuses why it took too months to occupy Mariupol and why they had to bomb it all to shit in the process.

You're wrong here. Despite the fact that noone had seen any "nato general" through captive on Azovstal, russian in general still believe in existence of such generals.

The reason why they don't see them for russian is easy: "Our NOVIOPS already exchanged generals behind our backs"


There are 10.000 UKR soldiers being trained at this moment in the UK and other countries. It is just for a parade, no need to worry.

Meanwhile, fire and smoke in Mariupol. Another cigarette but that was not properly put off.

In Kherson,...

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/9-july-explosion-at-reportedly-military-ammunition-warehouses

Multiple secondary explosions. That was a weapons depot.
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