Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[paxmao]

Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!

RF is clearing out any possible doubt of how exaggerated were the claims about capabilities, production, efficiency, training and, in general, to their ability to wage a modern war. It is true that the (remaining) chief psychos have learnt the lesson themselves and are somehow managing to coordinate the resources they have - as long as they remain close to their bases in the RF.

But it is also true that the RF status as a superpower is not realistic. The nuclear arsenal is a defensive deterrent, but it does nor provide offensive advantages in a conventional war. The huge arsenal of outdated gunnery provides an advantage, but it requires soldiers willing to risk their lives at a moment in which there is no real threat to the RF.

In respect to the advanced capabilities in rocketry, again, they confer a deterrent in large scale wars, but the cost and quantities involved in waging a conventional war using the latest and most expensive "toys" require endless resources, production capabilities and strong supply chains of critical components.

Overall, I would say that the RF maintains the capability of causing destruction and killing... for now. There are plausible scenarios of oil prices, economical downturns and social unrest that end very badly for Adolf Putin and his gangsters.

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[TwitchySeal]

https://t.me/Ukr_G_M/6165

About the Russian language in Ukraine.

What if I showed you a video of a man explaining the opposite of whatever this guy said.

[BADecker]

Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!

RF is clearing out any possible doubt of how exaggerated were the claims about capabilities, production, efficiency, training and, in general, to their ability to wage a modern war. It is true that the (remaining) chief psychos have learnt the lesson themselves and are somehow managing to coordinate the resources they have - as long as they remain close to their bases in the RF.

But it is also true that the RF status as a superpower is not realistic. The nuclear arsenal is a defensive deterrent, but it does nor provide offensive advantages in a conventional war. The huge arsenal of outdated gunnery provides an advantage, but it requires soldiers willing to risk their lives at a moment in which there is no real threat to the RF.

In respect to the advanced capabilities in rocketry, again, they confer a deterrent in large scale wars, but the cost and quantities involved in waging a conventional war using the latest and most expensive "toys" require endless resources, production capabilities and strong supply chains of critical components.

Overall, I would say that the RF maintains the capability of causing destruction and killing... for now. There are plausible scenarios of oil prices, economical downturns and social unrest that end very badly for Adolf Putin and his gangsters.

Will it actually work? Let's hope we don't have to find out by experience. Russia's new "tsunami" sub, the Belgorod.


Russian Navy Takes Delivery of First "Nuclear Tsunami" Submarine

Yesterday, July 8, 2022, the Russian Navy took delivery of the first submarine capable of firing the "Poseidon" nuclear tsunami drone torpedo.  No other submarine on earth has such capability and there is no defense at all against its "Poseidon" drone nuclear torpedo.

The Russian Navy submarine armed with a strategic nuclear torpedo the size of a school bus was delivered to the Kremlin this week, according to an announcement from the shipyard.

Project 09852 Belgorod is based on a Russian Oscar-class guided-cruise missile submarine that has been altered to accommodate six Poseidon nuclear torpedoes that could each be armed with a warhead of up to 100 megatons.

The submarine was delivered to the Russian Navy in a ceremony in at the Northern Fleet's headquarters in Severodvinsk on Friday.

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[be.open]

Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!

This only speaks of the low effectiveness of US foreign policy in the field of sanctions. Even after 20 years of active containment, Iran is in the world top 20 in terms of GDP, and in western Asia, the economy is second only to Turkey (which is now going through hard times due to hyperinflation). Only a fool can disdain the direct heir of the great Persia.

Will it actually work? Let's hope we don't have to find out by experience. Russia's new "tsunami" sub, the Belgorod.


Russian Navy Takes Delivery of First "Nuclear Tsunami" Submarine

Yesterday, July 8, 2022, the Russian Navy took delivery of the first submarine capable of firing the "Poseidon" nuclear tsunami drone torpedo.  No other submarine on earth has such capability and there is no defense at all against its "Poseidon" drone nuclear torpedo.

The Russian Navy submarine armed with a strategic nuclear torpedo the size of a school bus was delivered to the Kremlin this week, according to an announcement from the shipyard.

Project 09852 Belgorod is based on a Russian Oscar-class guided-cruise missile submarine that has been altered to accommodate six Poseidon nuclear torpedoes that could each be armed with a warhead of up to 100 megatons.

The submarine was delivered to the Russian Navy in a ceremony in at the Northern Fleet's headquarters in Severodvinsk on Friday.

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This article may give the false impression that before the launch of the Tsunami submarine, the hundred-megaton "continent killer" Poseidon was gathering dust in a warehouse. Poseidon is an autonomous drone with its own nuclear reactor, it has no significant time limits between the moment of launch and the moment of operation. What if I told you that several Poseidons have already been launched, but have not yet worked? Try to learn to live with it, we live in a very interesting time when much more incredible things are possible.

[xenon131]

Blah, blah, blah. Even Zelensky has said that Ukraine needs more help from the US if it wants to win. But the US people are getting fed up with a war that is spending all their money so that they don't have enough to live on at home. Biden will fail. And so will Europe under Russia's sanctions against them.

Russian sock puppet, you quacks like putler as you did this before in the threads relevant to COVID.

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."

[Branko]

Will this war finally ends ever?

[Waradlain]

Prepare for a 300km buffer zone around any parts of former Ukraine Putin decides to not negotiate back after Zelenski exits the stage?
If it were me, I'd be starting to train Syrian, Hezbollah, and Yemeni teams on use of the Iskandar system.
In other news:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7kxO6oUR7Le/

It is more like that from the borders of Ukraine, deep into the rashist understate, there will be a 300 km non-residential zone

And about terrorists on a global scale - you reminded me well - after all, these are "ugly children of the USSR / Russia." And I am more than sure that, realizing that soon a noose will be tightened on the thin, flabby neck of the pitiful Fuhrer of the Rashists, he will certainly try to spoil the whole world. Here's the truth, as the latest facts show - most likely the terrorists will abandon the Iskanders, because these missiles suddenly became "boomerangs" - after the start they often fall near the launch site ... And the terrorists of their Hezzballs and others - they are not idiots, this is not the Russian army, they feel sorry for themselves and will not take risks

Lol, you sound so desperate with such childish posts, how old are you, 8?

Can you explain this
_{still can't believe we have a Croatian vatnik here lmao the hell is wrong with you dude}

[paxmao]

Prepare for a 300km buffer zone around any parts of former Ukraine Putin decides to not negotiate back after Zelenski exits the stage?
If it were me, I'd be starting to train Syrian, Hezbollah, and Yemeni teams on use of the Iskandar system.
In other news:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7kxO6oUR7Le/

It is more like that from the borders of Ukraine, deep into the rashist understate, there will be a 300 km non-residential zone

And about terrorists on a global scale - you reminded me well - after all, these are "ugly children of the USSR / Russia." And I am more than sure that, realizing that soon a noose will be tightened on the thin, flabby neck of the pitiful Fuhrer of the Rashists, he will certainly try to spoil the whole world. Here's the truth, as the latest facts show - most likely the terrorists will abandon the Iskanders, because these missiles suddenly became "boomerangs" - after the start they often fall near the launch site ... And the terrorists of their Hezzballs and others - they are not idiots, this is not the Russian army, they feel sorry for themselves and will not take risks

Lol, you sound so desperate with such childish posts, how old are you, 8?

Can you explain this
_{still can't believe we have a Croatian vatnik here lmao the hell is wrong with you dude}

I can attest for a strong confirmation bias. Otherwise, he seems to have seen fight, which means that there is very little chance he will change his mind because that would mean that he has killed and fought for the wrong reasons. It takes a very special individual to recognised big mistakes, so expect a continuous line of "US is bad", "RF is doing the right thing", ...

Also, being soldier (except for psychopaths) requires believing that you are actually fighting for a cause. Forget about him accepting that this war is about the oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR territorial controls. He is all about "fighting the US" and the capitalists.

Will this war finally ends ever?

That's what the Persians though when fighting the Greeks, the French and their "Maginot Line", the Germans digging trenches in 1915,... and failed. Generals are always fighting the last war.

[Branko]

I can attest for a strong confirmation bias. Otherwise, he seems to have seen fight, which means that there is very little chance he will change his mind because that would mean that he has killed and fought for the wrong reasons. It takes a very special individual to recognised big mistakes, so expect a continuous line of "US is bad", "RF is doing the right thing", ...

Also, being soldier (except for psychopaths) requires believing that you are actually fighting for a cause. Forget about him accepting that this war is about the oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR territorial controls. He is all about "fighting the US" and the capitalists.

You didn't read carefully...fact that I was in war and fought against Serbs doesn't mean I have to follow
mainstream narrative...specially because its always simplistic and mostly propaganda BS...both in
our war and this one in Ukraine

Your geopolitical reasons "oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR " are right ones...only problem is that
you intentionally left out other half

I suggest you read few books from William Engdahl and John Perkins



https://www.compact-online.de/oskar-lafontaine-oeffnet-endlich-nord-stream-2/?cookie-state-change=1657633826143


"When will there be a Chancellor who will have the courage to tell Washington this far and no further. Where does this German addiction to submission come from when you see how German journalists and politicians behave towards Washington?

When you think of your own people, there is only one solution: open Nord Stream 2 to prevent the worst. De Gaulle still knew that states have interests, not friends. Just as the Americans have been trying for 100 years to prevent German technology from merging with Russian raw materials (George Friedman), the federal government should finally see that the sanctions are not harming Russia and the USA, but primarily Germany and Europe."

[BADecker]

Well, I guess we are blessed that Russia just doesn't go in there and take the HIMARs away from the Ukrainian military to use for themselves. Of course, that would be kinda useless, since they are destroying the ammo.


Russia has already begun destroying advanced US weapons systems sent to Ukraine

The United States continues to drain its stockpile of weapons, many of them advanced long-range missile and artillery systems, by supplying them to Ukraine, but almost as fast as many of them arrive, they are being destroyed by Russian forces.

Last week Russia’s defense ministry claimed that its forces managed to locate and destroy two High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) that were only recently supplied to Ukraine, the loss of which cannot be sustained.

The systems are meant to greatly expand Ukraine’s long-range firing capabilities in order to match those of Russia. But in keeping with an earlier pledge, Moscow announced that its forces would target any weapons systems supplied by foreign nations and ultimately hold them “responsible.”

There was no independent confirmation that Russian troops took out the two systems, but to be honest, it’s not like the Ukrainians would confirm that the systems were destroyed even if true. That’s because Kyiv doesn’t want to lose its weapons gravy train being supplied primarily by U.S. taxpayers; admitting the HIMARS were taken out is a tacit admission that a) supplying such systems is pointless because b) the Ukrainians have no way to protect them.

However, “if accurate, it would be a devastating rollback of efforts to give Kiev longer range rockets, given at this point the Ukrainians likely only possess less than half a dozen HIMARS. It also takes time to train the Ukrainians on the complicated mobile systems being transferred,” Zero Hedge reports.

“This could mean the destruction of half of the US-made HIMARS deployed by the Ukrainians. Reuters recounts, ‘Ukraine had received only four HIMARS systems as of early July, the European Council on Foreign Relations said in a report. The U.S. has pledged to deliver eight by mid-July,'” the site added.

Reuters noted further, citing Russian military sources:

It also said Russian forces destroyed two ammunition depots storing rockets for the HIMARS near the frontline in a village south of Kramatorsk in Ukraine’s Donetsk region – the main focus for Russian troops following the capture of Luhansk over the weekend.

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[tvbcof]

More data supporting the hypothesis that Jews in multiple countries, and principally Ukraine, want more dead former Ukrainians.  The deck is stacked against these poor fuckers and they don't have a chance:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/I3dfpHQz1XwM/

Or it's a psy-op to add support the growing suspicions here.  Hard to know.

[LTU_btc]

You should have known better the definition of Nazism in order to throw such unfounded and groundless accusations against me. Perhaps I do not have enough emotional involvement in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, due to the great geographical distance from the place of the main development of events. Perhaps in my personal hierarchy of life values, the ideals of humanism and pacifism are not in the most honorable place. But I did not claim that Russians are better than Ukrainians, or Americans, or Germans, or representatives of any other nationalities, if only because I do not like false generalizations. Think about it at your leisure before you sit in a puddle next time.

Things that Russia is doing in Ukraine isn't much different from nazism. For example, filtration camps for Ukrainians from occupied territories. It doesn't remind anything?
When someone else from Ukraine or West would use same rhetoric as you did in previous post, wouldn't you call him nazi? Didn't you talked about "genocide of Russian speaking population in Donbas"? But now when you said that it doesn't matter how many people will have to killed and how many buildings will have to be destroyed, then everything is ok?

[paxmao]

I can attest for a strong confirmation bias. Otherwise, he seems to have seen fight, which means that there is very little chance he will change his mind because that would mean that he has killed and fought for the wrong reasons. It takes a very special individual to recognised big mistakes, so expect a continuous line of "US is bad", "RF is doing the right thing", ...

Also, being soldier (except for psychopaths) requires believing that you are actually fighting for a cause. Forget about him accepting that this war is about the oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR territorial controls. He is all about "fighting the US" and the capitalists.

You didn't read carefully...fact that I was in war and fought against Serbs doesn't mean I have to follow
mainstream narrative...specially because its always simplistic and mostly propaganda BS...both in
our war and this one in Ukraine

Your geopolitical reasons "oil & gas corridors and the reaffirmation of the old USSR " are right ones...only problem is that
you intentionally left out other half

I suggest you read few books from William Engdahl and John Perkins



https://www.compact-online.de/oskar-lafontaine-oeffnet-endlich-nord-stream-2/?cookie-state-change=1657633826143


"When will there be a Chancellor who will have the courage to tell Washington this far and no further. Where does this German addiction to submission come from when you see how German journalists and politicians behave towards Washington?

When you think of your own people, there is only one solution: open Nord Stream 2 to prevent the worst. De Gaulle still knew that states have interests, not friends. Just as the Americans have been trying for 100 years to prevent German technology from merging with Russian raw materials (George Friedman), the federal government should finally see that the sanctions are not harming Russia and the USA, but primarily Germany and Europe."

Agreed, US will come out stronger, Europe and - IMO - the RF will come out weaker. I have said it over an over in many posts, there are winners of this war but not in Europe. Of course, Nordstream 2 was built because it would have been fantastic for EU's competitivity, and you are right, the RF and Europe do make excellent partners for many reasons. The obvious problem is that partners have to talk and solve problems peacefully. The moment you start shelling and sending rockets to your neighbours, that dialogue is impossible.

If you think of it, the EU cannot allow the RF to wage a war in Europe and get even more influence in the vicinity of Poland, and just blatantly take over territory from a sovereign state - all while making references to nuclear weaponry, no matter how justified some people may think it is, the answer was inevitable: sanctions, pressure...

The usual Putinists will argue that RF is doing great and becoming bigger and all that crap. The truth is that the war is an economic, diplomatic and strategic disaster for the RF. The difference is that Adolf Putin did choose to start the war instead of trying other things, Europe has been left with no choice but to support Ukraine.

The latest I got is that the EU will consider any RF try to avoid the sanctions a criminal action. This means that from having the assets frozen, the will be simply taken and used for a reconstruction fund for Ukraine. For me that is a very harsh decision: Europe is based on respecting property and law and this does not help.

Needless to say that Europe would rather not have to do any of this, nor risk critical industrial supplies (mostly gas) nor getting in bad terms with a country that could have been a great partner... this is clearly a loose-loose situation for the EU and the RF, no to mention Ukraine of course.

You should have known better the definition of Nazism in order to throw such unfounded and groundless accusations against me. Perhaps I do not have enough emotional involvement in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, due to the great geographical distance from the place of the main development of events. Perhaps in my personal hierarchy of life values, the ideals of humanism and pacifism are not in the most honorable place. But I did not claim that Russians are better than Ukrainians, or Americans, or Germans, or representatives of any other nationalities, if only because I do not like false generalizations. Think about it at your leisure before you sit in a puddle next time.

Things that Russia is doing in Ukraine isn't much different from nazism. For example, filtration camps for Ukrainians from occupied territories. It doesn't remind anything?
When someone else from Ukraine or West would use same rhetoric as you did in previous post, wouldn't you call him nazi? Didn't you talked about "genocide of Russian speaking population in Donbas"? But now when you said that it doesn't matter how many people will have to killed and how many buildings will have to be destroyed, then everything is ok?

I do not call the guy Adolf Putin for nothing. Is not a way of speaking nor a senseless insult. The current RF regime is totalitarian, nationalistic, supremacists, supresses more freedom and balances each day,... It has all the characteristics of a Nazi regime.

[mv1986]

The destroyed houses will be rebuilt, new people will be born and grow up to replace the dead, and they will speak their native language fluently (it doesn’t matter if it’s Ukrainian or Russian). Ukraine believed in itself too much, having decided to forbid the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass to speak Russian, and Ukraine will be punished for this. It does not matter how many houses will have to be destroyed and how many more people will have to be killed.

Wow, that's strong statement. You're real nazi and you just proved it with your words. Who cares about people lifes, who cares about buildings? That's russian thinking where life of people is worth nothing. Russia is making genocide in Eastern Ukraine, killing both Ukrainian and Russian speaking people. This is how they "protect" Russian speaking population of Donbas.
You're asking for denazification yourself.

Look at this freak's personal text: "red machine". I am sure in the 1930s /1940s the whole world thought of Germany as the "brown machine". This dude be.open is completely braindead. Chances are low that he is referring to the movie "Red Machine", but I doubt it...

Regarding the bold part: killing defenseless children (defenseless/children are redundant words, but in case he is brainless...), raping and killing women, killing tied up and defenseless kneeing civilian men with a headshot, all this sounds to me that this is what he is referring to with the Russian army, the red machine. Ruthless, brainless, heartless, soulless.

be.open reminds me of some of these old German nazi dudes who defended Hitler till their very last day because they didn't have much else in their lives. be.open is a really poor dude.

I also think the be.open doesn't understand many of us here would defend the Russians if the Ukrainians started the attack. I at least would for certain. The Russians attack and kill on territory that by contract and global universal agreement, including the Russians agreement, belongs to a state called Ukraine.

I had some Bitcoin trades that were quite disappointing. I sold and a day later that damn thing was 20% higher in value. @be.open, what do you think, should I give a shit about the contract and kill the motherfucker who owns MY Bitcoin? I mean, it is MY Bitcoin right? Sure we have this contract, but still, I think I should kill him! And fuck his wife! And shoot his brothers and sisters. And not to forget: the kids should die as well! (sarcasm, before I get banned...)

My lord... 

[Branko]

This war will have one interesting consequence...I'm curious to see how the world will
react to next USA invasion on sovereign country using false flag

[Lucius]

_{still can't believe we have a Croatian vatnik here lmao the hell is wrong with you dude}

He is not a Croat at all, but an ordinary nostalgic for Yugoslavia and the mass murderer Tito - and he allegedly fought in the war, but only because he was forcibly mobilized. Unfortunately, there are a lot of such anti-Croats, and if you want to see Branko, I suggest you look at what it looks like when his friends meet in the capital. These people still wave the flags of non-existent countries and celebrate people like Tito and Stalin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrlqrIBrmpw

[Branko]

_{still can't believe we have a Croatian vatnik here lmao the hell is wrong with you dude}

He is not a Croat at all, but an ordinary nostalgic for Yugoslavia and the mass murderer Tito - and he allegedly fought in the war, but only because he was forcibly mobilized. Unfortunately, there are a lot of such anti-Croats, and if you want to see Branko, I suggest you look at what it looks like when his friends meet in the capital. These people still wave the flags of non-existent countries and celebrate people like Tito and Stalin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrlqrIBrmpw

Minken bojna?
So many people have need to prove their "national pride" or whatever AFTER events are over
and outcome is known
So many people like Lucius were members of communist party, just to turn coats when it became lucrative
Same goes in this war, so many BMWs and Audis with Ukrainian tables in Croatia, those are future Luciuses
that will one day return and sell nationalism to those who actually fought

[Waradlain]

It’s sad not that someone is a member of a party that hasn’t existed for 50 years, but that someone's little communist brain cannot get it that an average IT-dumbass from Ukraine can easily earn money for a conditional Audi in three months.

[Branko]

It’s sad not that someone is a member of a party that hasn’t existed for 50 years, but that someone's little communist brain cannot get it that an average IT-dumbass from Ukraine can easily earn money for a conditional Audi in three months.

So? Noone said HOW they got money, fact is that I didn't see any in Lada or Trabant

[DrBeer]

It's cool to read here the tantrums of pro-Russian light versions of propagandists telling another tale about "analo shit" (as they say in Russia "aнaлo-гoвнeтныx"   ) Russian military technologies, some fabulous advantages and, of course, an "invincible leader" who in reality is just a pitiful and vile, cowardly bunker maniac ...
...and at the same time watch a video of how the Ukrainian army regularly smashes Russian warehouses, headquarters, groupings of troops, air defense systems, ...
...and listen to intercepts with hysterical, crap Russian soldiers who suddenly don't want to die
Due to the contrast between propaganda and reality, you perfectly understand how global lies cover the whole of Russia with a thick layer