From my estimates I expect the amount of coins created at end of growth would be ..
~1.322.044 SEED
with the beginning market cap somewhere around $50k and assuming it will stabilize back to it, we'll see prices around 0.00009500 btc.
Of course staking will continue at 16% annual interest, and half after each year to 1%.
And assuming a proper roadmap. . . Moon?
You do realize that the amount of coins is totally irrelevant, don't you? That what counts is the market cap. You are assuming this will retain the 'value' "around $50k" because it seems to you like a possibility? Because the indications so far are at a level 4 times below... and that is with the overwhelming majority of the coins staking and very few in Bittrex... wait 4 more days and you will have a real hard estimation of the real 'value" of this POS. No, you will need to wait at LEAST a week to estimate. In four days the value will APPEAR to be low as shit as im sure a bunch of people have planned to dump all along. The price will GREATLY amount to what the top 10 wallets do. If they all decided to hoard the price could go stupid high... Why would it go high? Have you seen demand anywhere? Even if no one in the top 10 wallets sells a single coin the price will not go up -and will go down big- if there's no demand. May I remind you that 6.7 BTC were sold in the IPO? And that the bulk of that -way more than half- were bought by the PINK crew + Anoxxy? Who else is interested? |
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From my estimates I expect the amount of coins created at end of growth would be ..
~1.322.044 SEED
with the beginning market cap somewhere around $50k and assuming it will stabilize back to it, we'll see prices around 0.00009500 btc.
Of course staking will continue at 16% annual interest, and half after each year to 1%.
And assuming a proper roadmap. . . Moon?
You do realize that the amount of coins is totally irrelevant, don't you? That what counts is the market cap. You are assuming this will retain the 'value' "around $50k" because it seems to you like a possibility? Because the indications so far are at a level 4 times below... and that is with the overwhelming majority of the coins staking and very few in Bittrex... wait 4 more days and you will have a real hard estimation of the real 'value" of this POS. |
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Thank you all who pointed out selling a large quantity at a premium actually makes sense when supply is limited  Keep deluding yourself... it'll make you rich. But hey, what do I know? I expected the total market cap to be now under $10k and according to bittrex, it is triple that. Go figure... Of course BTC has gone up 10% and that helps a bit, but still. And of course we know Faye will not dump, which also help. But I still doubt you will ever get more than 0.5 BTC for your 500... or whatever they become along the growth period. Then again, what do I know, right? |
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WTS 500 for 1.5 BTC private message
that's double the current price. You ask for 0.003 each while the price is 0.0015 No, the current best price is not a buy offer, it's the sell offer, which is .0025 - also, if you wanted to buy 500, there's not enough volume at that price. You'd be paying up to .005 for some of them. So actually, his price is fair considering the current market books. Fair deal doesn't mean good deal, though.  I disagree for it is he who wants to SELL. Try that on Bittrex and see what you end up getting for 500 coins. It is RIDICULOUSLY high. |
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WTS 500 for 1.5 BTC private message
that's double the current price. You ask for 0.003 each while the price is 0.0015 try to buy 500 seed right now and see what u end up paying Why not try to SELL 500 now and see what price you end up getting? Funny... |
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Hi guys If you remember James said he won't have much time to help VRC until the end of this year or very early next year. He did say he would help when he could. If you have been following progress on SuperNET or BTCD threads, you will know that he is looking at renting servers to test SuperNET and Teleporting at full scale. They has been daily progress reports and every thing is going forward. I have also read communication between James and VRC devs on SuperNET forum (I think it was there, I read a lot of threads) suggesting some interesting things in the pipeline for VRC. So I for one will not be selling my VRC, I will continue to trade and gather more while the price is cheap. Nice to see that people are communicating in a more civil way here, its so much nicer than trash talk.Jon  Perhaps that should tell you something now that the raging cheerleaders don't post here, about who the troublemakers were... Just a thought. I think it has more to do with the fact that a few of the VeriCoin supporters are making a conscious effort not to get into pointless sparring matches with those who frequently stir up the waters. Instead, they're handling and redirecting those perpetual naysayers into a more positive and constructive direction. And you would, of course, delude yourself that way. Predictable. Inevitable. Seems legit... |
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lol @ everyone blaming vrc low price on btc going down and upcoming ipos like bro.
put ur blame towards mintpal and supernet.
b/c of mintpal hack we pulled trading support... with the intention to repush once bottomed out. that price rise barabbas claimed was from worldvrc day.... yeah that was a test pump from us looking to see if vrc had bottomed and if it was time to repush the price that just happened to coincide with his post about vrcday or w/e it was. but we will let him keep thinking as he wishes....
then supernet happened and let me ask why would we support a coin when 10% of mrket is going to b given to someone to dump when supernet dies just like UNOCS did when feathercoin left that.
and definatly lol at barabbas now being 110% supernet supporter...
one of our ppl tried to tell u we had plans 4 vrc. and if we had stuck to those vrc price would already b at .00075+
but instead of listening all of ur cheerleaders got scared market might actually be manipulated and that there might really b a group like ours with veri large holdings in the coin so they decided to label us as fud and blame us for attacks on vrc... when u should b looking else where.
we were only trying to speak up and prevent this coins community from making and a coin killing mistake of giving away control of 10% of the market to someone to use as a pump and dump to support something sketchy, questionable, and not even in existence yet.
who in there right mind would make a move to trust such a giant chunk of a multi-million dollar market
to some1 with such little accountability and such a giant conflict of interest in exchange for something that is just vaporware.... no company i know would.
so enjoy ur supernet payoffs paid for by dumping coins ppl have given jl to join supernet... while u keep pushing jls worthless assets...
but vrc price will continue down unless ur one and only whale JL777's buying support out weighs our selling weight...
looking at the charts for bbr and other coins that where given to jl.... still believe in that so called JL effect.
supernet is a joke. only ppl supporting it are nxt'rs and noobs that have only been in btc for less then a yr like all those that were burned by zeta....
Just to clarify, I support the IDEA of the SuperNET; to support it fully I would need to know which 10 coins will form it. As of now, I would not support a SuperNET that included VRC in the 10. James has stated that he will bring VRC technologically up to par to justify it's possible inclusion and up until now James' credibility, for me, remains intact. You may have been mislead by my support of VRC associating itself with James, which was a humongous positive (double the price almost instantly), which is a different thing altogether. Another erroneous assumption that you make (and you make several) is that VRC will "give" 10% of the company... VRC will give NOTHING, you need to know this very clearly, nothing at all whatsoever. What VRC could -but is not officially required to do-, is to buy in SuperNET an amount similar to 10% of the VRC value at the time, in exchange for SuperNET purchasing of 10% of Vericoin. Quite a different thing. A "shares swap" is what that figure is called in the regular financial world. Hopefully now you will "get it". Oh and I enthusiastically support that "swap" on 2 conditions: That the selected 10 coins bring to the SuperNET unique, cutting edge and best in class technologies, which are synergic and not repeated, one, and two, that the tech that James would have brought by then to VRC justify it's inclusion. Just being the public face guarding James' personal anon won't do. EDIT to add: By the way, your "group" apparently had huge plans to support VRC at the "bottom" 8000 level. It is quite possible (entirely up to James though for he can stop the price going down at any moment, very easily) that it will get back there again... Is that what you are in reality looking forward to happen to buy in much bigger then? You know, it is the opposite of trustworthiness that you would have waited this long to issue your threat. And you know what is absolutely hysterical? That your "group" would have had "big plans" for VRC. The Black Hand -and I am not entirely sure you are not La Mano Nera, mind you-, had "big plans" for BC and sank it after activating their "big plans" many times to run dry the idiotic investors that were -and some still are holding their monumental bags in there. And they did it with the full complicity of the Devs... just like you pretended here. Like I said, hysterical.... you should go to the bobsurplus school because the whole P&D game has evolved enormously since the Mafia-like days and it is way more sophisticated these days. You need to get updated... I see also that your usual frontman is not doing the posting anymore... that's another really bad move for it speaks of inconsistency and, frankly, panic. You guys are bagholders! Big, huge, humongous ones. Who knew, ah? |
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I just hope the guy at Number 1 hoards his coins.... I have a feeling he is going to end up with a HUGE % of the coins.... Everyone keeps saying people wont get all 7 days of staking.... He is likely going to get 8. . .
edit: Actually, that last update MAY have saved us since we lost some time... but it may end up being close.
If I were the dev I would maybe try to contact him (you said the messaging works) and offer to buy some coins after the growth period. It would spread them out a little, and the dev would have something to loose also. . .
I assure you, I will be hoarding those coins. Also, the likeliness of me getting that last stake are slim to none. I have been fairly lucky so far, but I would need some serious luck for the blocks to slow down that much. Here for the long, long term. I am an investor, not a day trader. Anyone that knows me from Pinkcoin, also knows that I'm an analyst and strategist, so this has been by far the most fun I've ever had in crypto.  As anticipated, the PINK team actually controls the vast majority of SEED. I am counting on seeing re-doubled promotional efforts from that camp. Oh my how things have changed... wow. Well, you came out of the woodworks faster than I had anticipated on this one. This is not the Pinkcoin camps belonging. It is my personal investment. And contrary to what you may believe, Pinkcoin is still my baby. These coins are going to sit and stake for a long, long time. And maybe, just maybe, once you exit Pinkcoin and dump out, I will than bring some of these profits over there. Until than, you can watch my long term investment and seeds grow. Oh I am watching you guys. In fact, this has become now PINK junior for my donuts bet will remain confirmed and between you, sumyge, Danny and sonny boy, I'm pretty sure you guys have the bulk of the top ten (and some others too). Like I told you before, it's only logical... and actually forced, so no conspiracy Danny, just the "luck" of the draw: Since nobody invested, your minimal investments/mining resulted in a high % ... of crap, mind you. But it poses a problem, doesn't it? Don't worry, I am quite sure the problem will dissolve itself when the coin hits the ground. My exit from PINK is rather imminent, so you can relax (but will continue trading it on the way down, with much less frequency of course), so you can feel free to invest your "profits" from sheet (sorry, seed) there any time you want. There will be none. Oh and Fayo, I know you are a deeply interested proponent of the "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" -for dough, naturally-, but no man can serve two mistresses. Yes you can pretend Pink is your "baby" but a.- it never was, to begin with and b.- anyone can easily imagine now where your interest and main efforts will be now... All in vain, of course for this debacle will never be worth anything. Even with you fully on board. But maybe you can lease SEED your lotto tip bot or your anon -because this crap doesn't have one decent, does it- and that way it would be, in a way, like your left hand scratching your right hand and viceversa, with a bit on both sides going to your pockets, right? Just an idea. |
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I just hope the guy at Number 1 hoards his coins.... I have a feeling he is going to end up with a HUGE % of the coins.... Everyone keeps saying people wont get all 7 days of staking.... He is likely going to get 8. . .
edit: Actually, that last update MAY have saved us since we lost some time... but it may end up being close.
If I were the dev I would maybe try to contact him (you said the messaging works) and offer to buy some coins after the growth period. It would spread them out a little, and the dev would have something to loose also. . .
I assure you, I will be hoarding those coins. Also, the likeliness of me getting that last stake are slim to none. I have been fairly lucky so far, but I would need some serious luck for the blocks to slow down that much. Here for the long, long term. I am an investor, not a day trader. Anyone that knows me from Pinkcoin, also knows that I'm an analyst and strategist, so this has been by far the most fun I've ever had in crypto. As anticipated, the PINK team actually controls the vast majority of SEED. I am counting on seeing re-doubled promotional efforts from that camp. Oh my how things have changed... wow. |
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Hi guys If you remember James said he won't have much time to help VRC until the end of this year or very early next year. He did say he would help when he could. If you have been following progress on SuperNET or BTCD threads, you will know that he is looking at renting servers to test SuperNET and Teleporting at full scale. They has been daily progress reports and every thing is going forward. I have also read communication between James and VRC devs on SuperNET forum (I think it was there, I read a lot of threads) suggesting some interesting things in the pipeline for VRC. So I for one will not be selling my VRC, I will continue to trade and gather more while the price is cheap. Nice to see that people are communicating in a more civil way here, its so much nicer than trash talk.Jon Perhaps that should tell you something now that the raging cheerleaders don't post here, about who the troublemakers were... Just a thought. |
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You are conveniently forgetting that BRO is selling an ICO for a coin that already has a 67% premine.......So there's that.
Are you implying I have anything to do with BRO? Because if you do you are quite wrong. And, obviously, you havent read my posts on their board. What seems "convenient" is your mention of their "pre-mine" without clarifying that BRO is a complete different business model from any other digital currency, which you must know (I know you do). Anyway, they are going to get rivers of money and that is that. |
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And, by the way, as foretold, we are back to be solidly in singles.
But at one point or another no doubt those very biog things the people is debating in the "cheerleader's club" are going to propel the price to the moon.
I'm sure people will keep an eye on it.
And on the "cheerleader's club" too.
Stooges.
How low you think price will go? Into the 8000's? 7000's? Any guess? It's totally in the hands of James. It will go as low as he lets it go. Some cheerleaders were -and still are- convinced that without James the bottom would have been 8000 anyway; it is possible that James would want to show them exactly how wrong they were by letting go there and below EVEN with the fact that he is involved and VRC will possibly be in the SuperNET. If I were James, I would do that, just to make things quite clear to everyone. But, alas, I am not so I cannot even speculate at this point. One thing I do know though: If he doesn't do anything, it will keep going down indeed. If you have been following the Supernet forums, you've undoubtedly noticed that James has been very busy hammering out the code for the SN API and more specifically, the DHT code to support a distributed file sharing/cloud infrastructure. Pretty exciting stuff. The price is the price. The technology is advancing, however, and VeriCoin will be a part of it. No I haven't been following the supernet forums. And I have no doubt James is a very, very busy individual. I GET that. And I am the first to appreciate and respect James because, so far, he has honored -and beyond- his commitments in what I can see and certainly in what pertains VRC. That said, he may have misjudged "the price is the price" aspect when he stated that "... between 10 and 14 would be the period of accumulation..." or words to that effect. If he really wants the price to remain in that channel, obviously he has to do something more than what he has done. Otherwise I have no problem at all -totally the contrary- with James' involvement in VRC so far. We are still months before he has to show something of what he promised he would do, so still quite within his commitment. That said, I reiterate that since VRC on it own has nothing of any value for the crypto community, if James doesn't do anything the price will continue being the price: Going south. Perhaps severely. NXT is in the dumps, too, and I don't see anyone involved in SN panicking about it. BTW, it's great to see a kinder-gentler barabbas here. Your input of late is appreciated. I am too busy to watch the markets like a hawk these days. There's a lot of development in the pipes, and that is where my focus is. -Cheers NEXT in the dumps? I don't think so. At all. NXT had a very solid run up and now it's profit taking time... which is what happens in NEXT for months and mon ths now. It could touch the 5s and that's where the money comes in running and back again to the highs 8s. Or above. Quite a different animal. If you perceive me as a kinder gentles Barabbas, I guess that would be my current projection. The only thing that is different, from my perspective, is James: Now VRC has him, before it did not. As long as it has James, is has something good and real effective. If it doesn't, it will drift eventually to the ground. THAT's the difference, the only one. Back to what you say about NXT, the same has occurred to a number of coins, including -among many others- BC and even DARK. There's very little money coming into alts and into even BTC, giving the distressed price. The remaining goes to the momentum projects (such as James') and some of the promising ICOs. There's no liquidity left even for solid projects, well established. The market is very tough and is about to become quite tougher: In 8 days an ICO that will make history, will be live. BRO. It's going to take thousands of BTC, millions of dollars. Many. All the other coins will be sold. Including the good ones. Imagine what will happen to this one... Unless, of course, James decides to counter... Only he has the kind of clout needed for such a move. Will he? The price, in a very significant way, will tell the tale of the play. Very, very soon. |
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l cannot understand this coin..  i'm afraid have same future as supercoin. lot of bagholders on wait..and wait... dev is active but i have strange feeling something isn't right..  first delays..price drop..fud...no activity on thread.. there is not much interest for this project and nobody doing anything..  DEV what do you think about POD? 
And you are asking these questions on a self-moderated forum? wow... There's only one REAL reason to have a self-moderated forum, only one. And everyone knows what that reason is. |
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Current market cap $27,000!!!! We are exploding!!! To da moon!!!! Go SEED!!!!!!
PS.- For the mentally challenged: My tongue is hurting my cheek, ok? Get it?
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Oh Bitsta is just another "jewel in the crown" of crypto, no question about it. |
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It's people like this that get shit done.
And I didn't think you had it in you... |
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I have looked over Bitkokos and Barabbas posts, join date, and profile. Seems this is the same person or two friends. either way they travel in a pack
and I thought you couldn't be any dumber than that Hey Jeckyll (or is it Hyde?), I would quote Einstein but I'm sure you know the quote yourself quite well. It applies here, in a couple of cases, with extraordinary proportions. |
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Sorry to report the my influence in pumping, while effective, was quite ephimeral.
Congrats Wiser for you orders will indeed be filled real soon.
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Since the level of some posters here is half a step above mentally challenged, I will have to dumb down my posts by a factor of 3, perhaps more.
And certainly eliminate sarcasm.
Oh my...
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Can we please keep this on topic of the coin. Barabbas I ask for a truce. Everyone else I ask that you openly debate but don't argue. If we keep down this road it wont be positive for anyone.
it's already negative and you don't seem to get it! meanwhile, dev cashed out ICO btc and he is drinking with his friends. bitkokos, possibly same person as barabas, here to bring the fud? lol this is a great coin, the proof is in the pudding! hold on to your seed, don't undersell, or you'll be sorry later. yesterday I was telling people to ignore him. Do you believe I am the same person as him? LOL Sell your seeds, you will buy them later for MUCH less You are actually jeckill and hyde. On crack. |
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