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1981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: October 12, 2014, 08:16:38 PM
And, by the way, as foretold, we are back to be solidly in singles.

But at one point or another no doubt those very biog things the people is debating in the "cheerleader's club" are going to propel the price to the moon.

I'm sure people will keep an eye on it.

And on the "cheerleader's club" too.

Stooges.

How low you think price will go? Into the 8000's? 7000's? Any guess?

It's totally in the hands of James. It will go as low as he lets it go.

Some cheerleaders were -and still are- convinced that without James the bottom would have been 8000 anyway; it is possible that James would want to show them exactly how wrong they were by letting go there and below EVEN with the fact that he is involved and VRC will possibly be in the SuperNET.

If I were James, I would do that, just to make things quite clear to everyone. But, alas, I am not so I cannot even speculate at this point.

One thing I do know though: If he doesn't do anything, it will keep going down indeed.

If you have been following the Supernet forums, you've undoubtedly noticed that James has been very busy hammering out the code for the SN API and more specifically, the DHT code to support a distributed file sharing/cloud infrastructure.  Pretty exciting stuff.  The price is the price. The technology is advancing, however, and VeriCoin will be a part of it.



No I haven't been following the supernet forums. And I have no doubt James is a very, very busy individual. I GET that. And I am the first to appreciate and respect James because, so far, he has honored -and beyond- his commitments in what I can see and certainly in what pertains VRC.

That said, he may have misjudged "the price is the price" aspect when he stated that "... between 10 and 14 would be the period of accumulation..." or words to that effect. If he really wants the price to remain in that channel, obviously he has to do something more than what he has done.

Otherwise I have no problem at all -totally the contrary- with James' involvement in VRC so far. We are still months before he has to show something of what he promised he would do, so still quite within his commitment.

That said, I reiterate that since VRC on it own has nothing of any value for the crypto community, if James doesn't do anything the price will continue being the price: Going south. Perhaps severely.
1982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 08:08:21 PM
Can we please keep this on topic of the coin. Barabbas I ask for a truce. Everyone else I ask that you openly debate but don't argue. If we keep down this road it wont be positive for anyone.

it's already negative and you don't seem to get it!

meanwhile, dev cashed out ICO btc and he is drinking with his friends.

This is a case in which disappearance of the dev would actually be a good thing.
1983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 08:06:01 PM
Hey 25% up since I started pumping it!

This stuff works?

Go go go SEED. To da mooooon!
1984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 07:49:40 PM
Go, go, go!!!!


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1985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 07:42:18 PM
I think it's time to unignore barabbas. LOL

Actually, would the FUDers here mind running it down just a tad more, please? I've got a low ball buy order that I'm hoping will fill in time to stake four times. That means it has to fill within a few hours. C'mon, do your magic Wink

Actually, I'm going to mess your plans and use all my enormous influence to take the price to the moon. Or even farther. Watch:

Go SEED, best, most innovative crypto since BTC! Plant seed on the moon! Cryptzo for President! Investment opportunity of a lifetime! Hurry up, still 4 full days left of growth period if you but right now! Don't miss it!

If that doesn't work, I don't know what would...
1986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 07:38:27 PM
Is there a single post in this ever growing thread that explains exacty what Your Weight and Network are and how they affect staking?

thanks


wow: Seed headed for shitcoin territory fast from a High of .35 now at .0117 - wow - 1/30 of what it was worth a few days ago - It certainly appears as though when I release my own coin later this year I will NOT adopt Seedcoins Staking Algorithms : LOL or maybe better yet - actually do some testing before releasing the coin - that's a novel idea huh - testing?

the more weight you have the more chance u have at staking. Over time your weight will increase until you stake......

Now as for you wow.....
 
I bought 1 seed at .075, now I currently have 15.04 which is worth .175..... I wonder how many of you can even tie your shoes, much less read your own posts. yes the price will decrease as the coin count increases. As a investor you should be looking at what your net worth is, not per coin. Proce per coin is irrelevant right now.

this ^

of course the price is going down, as the volume increases. its not going down as fast as the volume of coins is increasing, so that is great!

i have also made a small profit since the PoS. some people cant read or do math =\

Well, here we have the genius that actually made profits with seed. Congratulations.

But for a minimum sense of decency, refrain to propagate bold lies such as "the price is not going down as much as the volume increases", ok? The price is going down WAY MORE than the volume has increased. Way more. But, to keep track, since "some people" cannot read the block explorer, at 10,000 coins the total cap is $14,000. I'll keep you posted as the price "progresses", ok?
1987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: October 12, 2014, 07:31:53 PM
And, by the way, as foretold, we are back to be solidly in singles.

But at one point or another no doubt those very biog things the people is debating in the "cheerleader's club" are going to propel the price to the moon.

I'm sure people will keep an eye on it.

And on the "cheerleader's club" too.

Stooges.

How low you think price will go? Into the 8000's? 7000's? Any guess?

It's totally in the hands of James. It will go as low as he lets it go.

Some cheerleaders were -and still are- convinced that without James the bottom would have been 8000 anyway; it is possible that James would want to show them exactly how wrong they were by letting go there and below EVEN with the fact that he is involved and VRC will possibly be in the SuperNET.

If I were James, I would do that, just to make things quite clear to everyone. But, alas, I am not so I cannot even speculate at this point.

One thing I do know though: If he doesn't do anything, it will keep going down indeed.
1988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 07:26:39 PM
Every time someone dumps seed coin a tree dies in the amazon. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

so sad

So incredibly pathetic

There is no need for that, I may have questioned your logic but I have never insulted you. Can we just keep on the topic of seed and how awesome it is.

That wasn't an insult in any way. If you re-read your statement you will, I'm sure, find it pathetic. It is a statement of fact. I don't know if you are pathetic or not; your statement, definitely is.

As for seed being awesome, I do get the joke. I do.
1989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 07:14:40 PM
Every time someone dumps seed coin a tree dies in the amazon. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

so sad

So incredibly pathetic
1990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: October 12, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
And, by the way, as foretold, we are back to be solidly in singles.

But at one point or another no doubt those very biog things the people is debating in the "cheerleader's club" are going to propel the price to the moon.

I'm sure people will keep an eye on it.

And on the "cheerleader's club" too.

Stooges.
1991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: October 12, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
I really dont understand the hate for the new forum.

This here is a bitcoin forum if you guys forgot.

Altcoins are only guests here.
Aslong as we still get important announcement here, moving to a new forum is a wise and important decision.

@amsterdamer

Great cards btw. I would suggest make it public at twitter and co Wink

I believe you may be mistaken and use the word "hate" quite inappropriately.

While considering the "cheerleader's hangout" forums an unfortunate idea, I don't believe anyone here or anywhere actually "hate" anything. Refusing to participate in such absurdity may show disdain or lack of interest in it. Hate? doubtful.
1992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 06:56:21 PM
Price is rising on bittrex

Of course it is, that previous FUD just propels smart buyers to by moar!

Excuse me? Funny, funny indeed.

As for the price in Bittrex, I though everyone agreed already that is absolutely meaningless at this stage...

Of course, it is meaningless when it tilts like it does every minute, downside.... wow...

Once again, everyone in this POS deserves, fully deserves, what's coming to them.

As for me reading the ANN, you are a joker. And a joke. Exactly which part of copy/paste/hackjob don't you understand? Because this is not up for debate since the perpetrator was forced to admit the obvious -only after caught, mind you-.

Total waste.
1993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 06:25:21 PM

I hope you understand. I haven't ignored any of you yet but I'm embarrassed for you and your behavior on these forums. You are hurting crypto.

With all due respect, you are 100% wrong, sorry.

The 99% of liars, con artists, fraudsters and scammers that are in crypto, as well as the batallion of greedy blind mofos, are the cancer of crypto and the reason no progress, or very minimal, is achieve, not those who point out the flaws of projects.

Case in point, this coin. Scam? Maybe not, not in the traditional way of take the money and run (mind you, there was no money to take so we can only speculate what would have happened where had been some...). I don't believe you will argue that there is no innovation here whatsoever, since it is a hack job copy/paste of Shadowcoin, will you? There was the absurd gimmick of the 269% growth period, a gimmick. No benefit for any one. Vapor sold to greedy mofos. What "good" does SEED bring to crypto, even if it would have been successful because instead of 7 greedy bastards there would have been 70. Or 700?

Crypto needs to eliminate the bad players. And this one is the perfect example. Projects like this have to be DOA, so other inept individuals are prevented for bringing the copy/paste BS to the market or be eradicated by the market. Instantly.

There are quite a few projects already -and more coming- well deserving of praise and investment in crypto. They also require scrutiny and debate for NOTHING is without any possibility of betterment. Those projects deserve the attention, the investment, the support ... and the debate, not idiotic propositions such as this.

Once again: Crypto needs to eliminate the bad players in order to accelerate its progress and reach some level of stability AND credibility. The restriction of freedom of speech that you propose, in any way, shape or form, is precisely the opposite of what crypto needs.
1994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
I don't understand why it says my coins aren't mature. They're mature, I already earned stake coins. Nothing's been moved. At one point I backed up my wallet.dat file, deleted the folder and restored from my backup just to see how it worked. I'm on V.05.

 

Go to your coin control (enable in settings/display then in the send tab) and look to see how old your coins are. after each stake, the coins need about 24 hours to become mature again and eligible for staking.

So that guy with the 902 coins will not have any more, unless he buys them on bittrex, until 24 hours from now.... at which time he will have, how many?

I hope I am correctly understanding you?

correct, his 902 coins cannot stake again for 24 hours. in 24 hours when he stakes again, he gets 902*2.69 + 902 (which is the same as 902*3.69 which is why I just use 3.69^x in my calculations since it's easier) = 3328 coins

There are currently 6000 coins, that number will continue to climb until this 24h period is over. Once that period is over, you can get a much improved estimate for the total coin supply.

Now here is where you compare him having 3328 coins tomorrow to someone with 60 coins today and say "omg looks he'll control 75% of the coin supply"

Not exactly: At the time I posted my comment, his 902 coins were almost exactly 1.6 of the total coins in existence. Apparently more coins are being staked while the 24-hour period "freezes" temporarily his accounting of new staked coins and may seem smaller... I can assure you by the time he gets his total up to 3328 coins tomorrow, he will own MORE than 1/6 of the total coins. And those increments will continue for the duration of the Growth Period.

It is quite easy, by the way, to calculate right now a minimum of coins he will end up with when Growth is over, even considering that there may be left 5 days or 4 more days. By extension, it will be quite easy to have a valid approximation of what the total amount of coins will be. In 5 more days he will have roughly 2,280,000 coins. It it is only 4 more days, the amount will be just over 600,000 coins. I am estimating 5 days and close to 10 million coins total of which he will have 25%. The other 4 guys will probably have more than that altogether so the group will control substantially more than half the total.

2.2 million would be if he staked 6 more times, not 5. 617,000 is how many he would have in 5 more days, not 4.

Again, making up numbers to scare people

Where is the "making up"? I stated clearly that if he stakes 5 more days he would get 617,000. Very clearly and specifically. If he stakes 6 more days, it would be 2.28 million. Again, very clearly and specifically. Reason for contemplating a 6th day? Every time the dev has made an estimation of total coin at the end of Growth, has been around 8 to 10 million. If that's the number, this guy will have, in my estimation, 2.28 million coins. It doesn't matter anyway because, whatever he gets, will be in a similar %, i.e.- 25% of the total coins.

I NEVER, EVER, either lie or make up numbers. Never had. Never will. So your "again" is very poor and obvious wishful thinking.

Just one example, and played it off like he was right all along.

Hey, jack ass, not only there wasn't a single word or NUMBER not correct there, but STILL the proper number (if it is true that there are 5 more days of growth) is 2.28 million.

Never, ever, ever, a lie. EVER.

Fucking idiot.
1995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [♔] British Digital Currency | 5% annual PoS - Bittrex - Fiat to BritCoin [BRIT] on: October 12, 2014, 10:21:37 AM
Well it's not a re-launch as such, as I mentioned the network will remain as it is (except for the Tor +mixer addition). We've managed to get some new people on board recently who will help take BritCoin to the next level, we've all got great ideas, I'm hoping now we have a few more people on board we will be able to get a lot more done.  So like I've said, it's not a re-launch as such, more of a fresh start, as things have been a bit stale recently as I'm sure you'll agree. Smiley

As for the PoD, I don't think 4/5 is 'failed'.  The only thing I could have done to get the extra star was meet him in person (not going to USA) or have a Skype call with him, I offered to do the latter but CryptoAsian gave us a 4/5 and then didn't get back to me.  The whole point of PoD is to prove that there are real people behind the coin and there's someone accountable if shit hits the fan.  I sent him scan of my passport, all contact details and more.. I think what I gave him was sufficient to prove Brit is a legit project.

The reason for the missing September whitepaper was the fact I was travelling/ill with flu for a large portion of last month, but we were planning on creating a blog to replace the monthly whitepaper as this would give us more flexibility.  It's harder than you think to remember every change/update for the past month and plan out changes and developments for the month ahead. Smiley

If you have any ideas to make BritCoin better, gimmi a PM and I'll be happy to discuss.


Hi guys, an update on what's going on with Brit;

We're in the process of doing a 're-launch' of BritCoin which we're hoping will be completed by the end of this week.  The network will be given Tor (+mixer) support and a few wallet changes, we'll be creating a new/better BCT thread as we've gone over 100 pages of replies and I think it's time for a fresh look/direction, all of which will be outlined in the next few days.

We are also looking for new people to join the BritCoin team, right now we need all the help we can get in developing and promoting BritCoin.  If you're interested, don't hesitate to PM or email me. Smiley

Why re-launch?

A failed POD is way worrysome -and probably the cause of the sell offs- and, more recently, failing to deliver on the self imposed obligation (white paper for September).

I dont think BRIT needs a re-launch. I believe it needs clear proof of developers and delivery on promises. A re-launch simply look gimmicky and should have no positive effect whatsoever.

More than ideas what I have is a very serious concern: You are in quite some danger of being delisted very soon from Bittrex and that would be the end... in case the end has not already happening. I mean, if you don't manage to either buy yourself or get someone to buy even a minimal amount even at these prices, I believe it's fairly fair to say the coin is already death.

At this point you don't have the luxury of even wanting ideas; at this point you need at least a minimal amount of BTC to keep the ball rolling.
1996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 10:10:10 AM
I fixed the wallet issue not showing my coins and a bit later I received coins on version 5.
....

Judging this coin by the market at this point is just fucking stupid.. Not saying it wont fail... but saying so now based on bittrex is not so bright.

this coin will get dumped. Just wait till the end of the growth period.  Its so obvious I would say its almost by design. and if the dev puts some real development into it some people could make a killing later.

Developing what exactly?

I remind you that it was the dev who made the "judgement" yesterday. No one else.

And yes, it was pretty stupid, I agree.
1997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 10:08:39 AM
I fixed the wallet issue not showing my coins and a bit later I received coins on version 5.
Long story short, the coin has failed as there are almost no buyers

Green is the interest to buy, red is the interest to sell.

Again, the biggest failure was that there was no public awareness to bring people to buy.
I am sure the green part (buyers) are only people among us and within 3-4 days they won't even exist as buyers.

The best thing we can do is to spread the word about 269% per day and 16% per year to attract other buyers and this has to be done NOW. Otherwise it's pointless to expect anything more.
A good place to start is exchange chat rooms.



Those are comfortable assumptions by you, but not real in the least. There was, as a matter of fact, quite a bit MORE awareness about this coin than there is in most of the coins that are ICOed every day... and they manage to, at least for a few weeks, maintain the interest, the buying interest, as some level. Even things like RIP-OFF coin, of Rosco or other obvious coins in their purposes.

No, what happened here is that there was never any buying interest, in spite of the awareness, because, quite frankly, you have to be nuts to put any money in a copy/paste hack job coin with no innovation whatsoever and a very absurd gimmick to increase the amount of coins. Most people in crypto know that 1 of nothing is exactly equal as 10 million of nothing. That's why there was no interest in the ICO and there's none now (and there will be even less tomorrow, and less the day after, and much less the following one).  
1998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
There are around 0.01% of available coins sitting on bittrex, sell orders are very thin. It's not very accurate to base the coins worth on that data

I agree. It is as inaccurate as it was yesterday. That's why I made the precise comments to such effect.

And, remember, it was the dev who made the comment yesterday, not me.
1999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform on: October 12, 2014, 09:56:27 AM
I believe a got quite a grasp of what is on offer here:

1.- a VERY DIFFERENT kind of digital currency

2.- also an asset, Bergstake (which is similar to other assets such as NXTVentures or SuperNET in that they are meant to continue producing revenues in the      future, in the form of BRO)

Nothing else. Breakout Gaming is an entirely different thing whose level of success or failure will greatly influence the value of BRO and, logically, Bergstake.

If Breakout Gaming is successful and ANY LEVEL - meaning they make money-, BRO will be very valuable (the more successful Breakout Gaming is, the more valuable both BRO and Bergstake will be); if Breakout Gaming is NOT successful at all, both BRO and Bergstake will be worth ZERO.

Now, if this were a conventional business model, that would give these guys a complete clean slate of 100% approval. This being crypto world, caution is always advisable. This is difficult to explain because BRO, as I stated above, is a very different kind of crypto currency but I'll try to paint the picture of some troubling potential scenarios: In one  way, this is like a new coin, fully pre-mined, in which the dev keeps 67% for himself. Or a big whale gets his hands on 67% of the project. They can, potentially dump big time and send the price almost to zero and then buy back much cheaper... rinse and repeat. Sounds familiar? I'm sure everyone is by now familiar with the Black Hand modus operandi.

Before the entire BRO team comes refuting this possibility, use your own logic and you will see that it is not only possible but even likely. It is quite easy and effective too, if the presumed liquidity is as big as it can be (and I am quite sure it eventually will). Furthermore, no one could possibly know that it is going on. Food for thought: You will NEVER know what Breakout Gaming is doing with their coins, their bergstakes, their rakes and commissions and the bergstaked coins. And to be perfectly frank, if it was me, I most definitely would manipulate the prices to sell high and buy back cheaper again and again, so I have to assume that they will too. Until regulation comes to crypto, there's nothing illegal about it, so why not? We are talking major, major, MAJOR potential profits for Breakout Gaming from  that type of LEGAL manipulation and operations.

Other than that -and especially if there are additional incentives for early investors-, I only see a monstruous ICO of historical proportions and a ton of money for Breakout Gaming.

Incentives? I can foresee several, including as Class A or VipBRO, besides the one already announced. Either way, it is going to be a huge success because the idea is as simple as brilliant.

Congratulations in advance.
2000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | 10/11 MANDATORY UPDATE on: October 12, 2014, 09:10:59 AM
Current total "value" of SEED, using the same measure the dev used yesterday about this time: $12,600.

Yesterday HE used the same measure to boast that the total value was getting higher... at the time at $42,000.
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