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2161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 05, 2018, 01:39:47 AM
Hi , i am from medic coin and we have listed our coin in Cryptopia in 2015 and everything is going good , i hardly notice coin activity and sales in there exchange , but after few months i noticed they have delisted our coin without any mail or information

This is not a scam.

They delist your coin due low volume. Last time I've checked it was allowed according their ToS. And they did the right thing. Supporting dead coins doesn't help them of the coin dev anyway.



The OP is trying to scam. They are trying to use a dead coin with the same name to get their hyperinflationary mega shitcoin listed without paying the required fee.

Over 80% of the coins are due to a premine and held in the top 25 wallets. Moste of the masternodes are controlled by a small number of people / one family.

The github shows Medic Coin (MEDIC) is not a coinswap or fork of MedicCoin (MDC)

Medic Coin (MEDIC) a fork of medic-EMR which is a fork of openemr.

Even the official Medic Coin (MEDIC) dev admits the coins are in no way related.

It is like claiming you are John Smith born in 2015 and therefore entitled to 10 BTC in services when you are John Smith born in 2017

It isn't just claimed here. They actually tried the scam to get their coin listed for free. (Confirmed by Cryptopia admin).

According to the Medic Coin (MEDIC) they are not part of their official team.





2162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 04, 2018, 03:27:11 PM
Here is MedicCoin MDC website https://mediccoin.wordpress.com/
MedicCoin MDC has no known current working nodes  = dead network.
Last known nodes were:
addnode=205.185.117.90
addnode=104.238.176.80

I don't know why you are still trying to argue. You got caught out on your lies.I've provided ample evidence. Now you are just trying to distract.

1) Medic coin dev has said you are not part of their team.



2) Medic coin dev has confirmed that Medic coin (MEDIC) is not the same as MedicCoin (MDC) which was listed in 2015 and later delisted on Cryptopia.

Medic Coin (MEDIC) has NEVER been listed on Cryptopia.



2163  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Medic coin scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 04, 2018, 02:50:03 PM
MEDIC Coin had a 30%+ Premine, but do not state this fact in their original post, github, or website.

Bitcointalk OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.0
Github: https://github.com/MEDICCOIN/MedicCoin/blob/master/README.md
Website: https://mediccoin.com/

The first 1,500 blocks paid out 100,000 MEDIC each,
totaling 150 million MEDIC out of the total supply of 500 million MEDIC
150/500 = 30% premine

===

Proof:

Starting January 3rd:

Block 1 through 1,500 - 100,000 MEDIC reward per block
Block 1: https://explorer.mediccoin.com/block/974c66768a079b1ddc38613e6733cba24470c7b50c7ccae64240e42178aedf9d
Block 1,500: https://explorer.mediccoin.com/block/94f0a3c3c479ff8cc8f525a50dfa8d5490dc96c7293dc62a105e307c2f7863c2
(Just type in block number into explorer to check each block)

Block 1,501 - Standard 199 per block reward
https://explorer.mediccoin.com/block/47449755c00f525970673e4abcf07be53a82a4917ed60c2cfd393ebb73278dff

Medic Coin wasn't announced on Bitcointalk until January 14th,
Blocks 1,501 through 22,000+ were also mined between January 3rd and January 14th launch time.

===

How many of these coins were turned into Masternodes?
https://masternodes.online/currencies/MEDIC/
There are only 45 masternodes currently

They reward 80% block rewards to Masternodes

The 4th block mined was used to create a Masternode:
https://explorer.mediccoin.com/tx/0624c5eae9e0d5c591b86e03d70cbc73eac0b1f8b9ebf7fc03097d61c30d7b4b
https://explorer.mediccoin.com/address/MCbkypXP6rpoyiHjkHHCCcU39p8XDuMLpE
https://explorer.mediccoin.com/tx/da48bc0873d74e5a5f1d2e9798bc15a7c56fb6dccf3cdea6ba33946de095a240
https://explorer.mediccoin.com/address/MGqGDS4oLmKhrWXRb3gros2RoxPMrNexqW  (Can see the 159 coin (80% of 199) reward payments)

How many masternodes were created with their premine coins?

Can anyone do more analysis?

===

"Maybe some els also have concern about 30% premine and 10 days of mining before public launch on discord, they banned me.
They only answer they gave me was that they needed premine to test the network... Hmm wonder what testnet is for" -NorwegianNoob (January 14th)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.msg28141960#msg28141960

"it is already mined 25,000 block" -bgonuller (January 14th)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.msg28142579#msg28142579

"We have products so we need 30% to pay for it.  
Our Medic EMR, Medic Phone Telemedicine app, and a team of developers, marketers, and philanthropists need money to work.
Other ICO keeps 100% of the money. We gave away 70% so that is fair.
This is not just a coin, but a masternode coin with products and people." -bitcoin9999 (January 14th)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.msg28143386#msg28143386
2164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 04, 2018, 02:29:54 PM


They have not issue any email or notification if they have then give proof dont use word "" Probably "" when you himself is not sure. then how you are accising a coin by saying Probably because there was a missing dev an no network activity.

and you means to say that a coin cannot upgrad code and if anyone does they have to relist again , or you have removed our coin with a motive of asking money again.


1) MDC coin was delisted a very long time ago. Well before the current Medic coin was created. The reason they use "probably" is because it was delisted such a long time ago that nobody remembers the coin.

2) As stated before: MDC coin never paid any listing fees. Listing fees were introduced in 2017 - MDC was delisted well before listing fees were introduced.

MDC coin is NOT the same coin as Medic coin. But even if it was it would have required to pay a relisting fee because it uses different blockchain.

2165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 04, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
The OP is trying to scam. They are trying to use a dead coin with the same name to get their hyperinflationary shitcoin listed without paying the required fee.

The github shows Medic Coin (MEDIC) is not a coinswap or fork of MedicCoin (MDC)

Medic Coin (MEDIC) a fork of medic-EMR which is a fork of openemr.

Even the official Medic Coin (MEDIC) dev admits the coins are in no way related.

It is like claiming you are John Smith born in 2015 and therefore entitled to 10 BTC in services when you are John Smith born in 2017

It isn't just claimed here. They actually tried the scam to get their coin listed for free. (Confirmed by Cryptopia admin) and confirmed here



and you means to say that a coin cannot upgrad code and if anyone does they have to relist again , or you have removed our coin with a motive of asking money again.

we can also write in bold font but we are not doing it , and if you dont want to list dont list dont prove that what u have done is right.

there is no such rule that time that if you upgrade code or update coin then you will be delisted. if its there then show us proof from 2015 at the time of listing


Your coin is not a upgrade of code. The coin dev stated it here:



It is also proven here:
Old medic coin github has not been updated for 3 years. https://github.com/mediccoincrypto/MDC-V2  


Old Medic coin ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=856624.0

The version of medic coin that was listed on Cryptopia is NOT the same coin as what is in existence now. It is in no way related other than that it shares the same name.

https://cryptomat.com/medic-coin-analysis/ If you look here at their current roadmap - there was nothing before 2017. https://mediccoin.com/roadmap/

New Medic coin ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.0




https://github.com/MEDICCOIN/MedicCoin this is the github from the current medic coin. As you can see there are serious differences. Medic coin forked from https://github.com/MEDICCOIN/Medic-EMR which is a fork from https://github.com/openemr/openemr openemr.

So it is not even a fork of the Medic coin that was listed on Cryptopia or in any way related.
2166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 04, 2018, 01:25:00 PM
The old Medic coin is in NO WAY RELATED to the new Medic coin other than sharing the same name.

Different github
Different ANN threads
Different devs
2167  Economy / Scam Accusations / Medic coin fraudulent scam attempt by people claiming to be part of their team on: April 04, 2018, 12:21:52 PM
What happened: Someone claiming to be part of the Medic Coin (MEDIC) team is making false and fraudulent claims

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1546400  and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1864266

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247456.0 edited since by OP - archived versions can be seen here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180411015330/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247456.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20180411015400/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247456.20


Amount Scammed: attempted around 12BTC (5 Million DOT)

I'm attempting to make this as fair and accurate as possible. If there is a correction to be made please PM me or leave a post.

Someone claiming to be part of the team is making false and fraudulent claims here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247456.0





Medic coin has since responded and confirmed that:

The version of medic coin that was listed is NOT the same coin as what is in existence now. It is in no way related other than that it shares the same name.
(The old Medic coin also never paid for any listing)
Old https://github.com/mediccoincrypto/MDC-V2
New (unrelated coin of same name) https://github.com/MEDICCOIN/MedicCoin



And:



And:



MedicCoin (MDC)      33,000,000 blockchain maximum supply - Genesis block was in 2015. The network no longer has working nodes at time of writing. It also has no working block explorer.

Medic Coin (MEDIC) 500,000,000 blockchain maximum supply https://explorer.mediccoin.com/block/974c66768a079b1ddc38613e6733cba24470c7b50c7ccae64240e42178aedf9d Genesis Block number 1 was on 3rd Jan 2018 10:42:38

EDIT: Further research shows that the Medic coin thread is a self moderated thread that is typically inhabited by shills. Questions regarding any dodgy claims by them are deflected, ignored and if not deleted burried in their self praise.

https://cryptoinsider.21mil.com/advent-and-ramifications-of-hypershitcoinization/
https://medium.com/@dmitry.vizer/pure-junk-alt-coin-scam-alert-a74976602556

Further scam claims regarding the premine can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2969401.0

2168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 04, 2018, 09:17:45 AM
Hi , i am from medic coin and we have listed our coin in Cryptopia in 2015 and everything is going good , i hardly notice coin activity and sales in there exchange , but after few months i noticed they have delisted our coin without any mail or information



They are asking us to pay again 10 BTC to list our coin again!

Why do we pay again for which we have paid already?

Is crex24 a good exchange?  Any other exchanges , but cryptopia is very good.


1) Your coin was never listed. The medic coin that was listed in 2015 is different from yours as explained above. According to its own timeline                                        
 https://mediccoin.com/roadmap/ your coin didn't exist prior to 2017 and first exchange listing occurred on 19 February 2018. According to its own ANN thread the network was started in Dec 2017 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.0

2) In 2015 coins were voted on - paying for listings was introduced in 2017. So you have not paid already.

3) Your quote in the medic coin thread shows this is deliberate. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525344.msg30776781#msg30776781

So you are a lying scammer.

2169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptopia Listing Scam Coin Developer on: April 04, 2018, 09:07:15 AM
Hi , i am from medic coin and we have listed our coin in Cryptopia in 2015 and everything is going good , i hardly notice coin activity and sales in there exchange , but after few months i noticed they have delisted our coin without any mail or information

Medic coin got delisted years ago. Probably because there was a missing dev an no network activity. Their github has not been updated for 3 years. https://github.com/mediccoincrypto/MDC-V2  The version of medic coin that was listed is NOT the same coin as what is in existence now. It is in no way related other than that it shares the same name. https://cryptomat.com/medic-coin-analysis/ If you look here at their current roadmap - there was nothing before 2017. https://mediccoin.com/roadmap/
Whenever there is a major fork, codebase change or coinswap a coin has to re-apply to be listed.
https://github.com/MEDICCOIN/MedicCoin this is the github from the current medic coin. As you can see there are serious differences. Medic coin forked from https://github.com/MEDICCOIN/Medic-EMR which is a fork from https://github.com/openemr/openemr openemr. So it is not even a fork of the Medic coin that was listed on Cryptopia or in any way related.

Cryptopias delisting policy can be seen here: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/620. Coins that have been delisted since January 2017 can be seen here:  https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/News

I talked about this with Cryptopia team, they said we will not add this again,

we don't know why we delisted you but one of our founders delisted you.

they don't have notification or alert system they have done this without notice.

They said to list again you need to pay in full.

Even there currency system doesn't have any option to alert coin developer if there is an issue.

They must tweet before unpublishing any coin because a lot of buyers are associated with that coins.

Its cryptopia mistake and they must list MEDIC COIN again without any charge.

CRYPTOPIA cares about money not about coins, using which they have reached this position.

Thanks

Medic coin was delisted because the network went dead. There has been no github activity on that coin for 3 years.

All delists are notified.  All coins that are delisted are notified on twitter and Cryptopia news.
There is also a notice on the wallet and on coininfo for at least a month prior to final delisting.

Coin developers are notified. According to Medic coin you have no official association with them.



As shown above  -it is NOT the same coin. It is not even a fork of the Medic coin that was listed on Cryptopia. It is not Cryptopias mistake since they have never dealt with you before. You are trying to defraud them out of their listing fee because the coins happen to have the same name.

2170  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: March 15, 2018, 11:33:07 AM
Lets be serious here !!

Cryptopia either don't realise or don't care that the money they are holding DOES NOT BELONG TO CRYPTOPIA..

It's My money & Your money.  

Cryptopia receives a fee for assisting the exchange of coins from one person to another.

Cryptopia have a duty of care to make sure Our money is safe and released to us when
we request it.

Cryptopia have failed in this duty of care and therefore in breach of trust, never mind
the breach of financial regulations of New Zealand.

This all could have been avoided if Cryptopia hadn't shown so much greed and distain
for their customers (us) who's money they rely on to stay in business.

Do the honourable thing Cryptopia
                                               REPAY US ALL OUR MONEY AND SHUT UP SHOP

Maybe then we can do business with a more reliable, more trustworthy, more ethical exchange !!



It is not money - it is crypto. If your USD gets delayed by the bank they don't repay you in Euros just because the Euro went up. Crypto can go up or down. You still have the same amount of Crypto coins.

Cryptopia is not a wallet service. They don't earn anything from holding your funds. It will be equally frustrating for them that there are problems.
Trade fees are about $1  for every $500 traded. ($1000 per $500 000)
A lot of the problems they are facing are due to people mining to their exchange address - despite it being against the rules.

There are a number of other exchanges that have equally long or longer support waiting times. It is not unique to Cryptopia.   Poloniex has had symilar problems.

Shutting shop is the most idiotic suggestion I have heard. If they can't process your withdrawals - how do you expect things to go if everyone has to withdraw at once ?

Cryptopia has 600+ coins listed and the issues are only with a few - for a variety of technical reasons. Other coins work fine.

Read their terms of trade. Everyone gets their crypto back. It just takes patience.

2171  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: March 08, 2018, 12:52:40 AM
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BOTS CAN POTENTIALLY STEAL YOUR LOGIN AND PASSWORD AND YOU CAN LOSE ALL YOUR CRYPTO - USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

If you plan to use a bot be aware that it can have malicious code, it can be potentially insecure code, you are disclosing your login credentials to a third party.

Later updates can also put your login details at risk and you can potentially lose all your Crypto.

For safety use a separate account for the bot so not all your Crypto is at risk.

Use it on a computer that does not contain crypto wallets and cannot infect other computers on your network.

Pumping and dumping is illegal in some jurisdictions.  Be aware that exchanges can potentially seize your assets on behalf of authorities if you participate in pump and dump scams.
2172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [CryptoStorm] Fastest CRYPTOPIA, BITTREX, BINANCE bot for PnD, scalping, signals on: March 08, 2018, 12:44:37 AM
BOTS CAN POTENTIALLY STEAL YOUR LOGIN AND PASSWORD AND YOU CAN LOSE ALL YOUR CRYPTO - USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

If you plan to use a bot be aware that it can have malicious code, it can be potentially insecure code, you are disclosing your login credentials to a third party.

Later updates can also put your login details at risk and you can potentially lose all your Crypto.

For safety use a separate account for the bot so not all your Crypto is at risk.

Use it on a computer that does not contain crypto wallets and cannot infect other computers on your network.

Pumping and dumping is illegal in some jurisdictions.  Be aware that exchanges can potentially seize your assets on behalf of authorities if you participate in pump and dump scams.
2173  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: March 07, 2018, 05:05:45 AM
I can see more people having problems with Cryptopia. I wonder how many support people they hired to accommodate tickets? So far I got no problems though and I don't want to experience it. But I am hoping all these issues addressed well. Happy to see Lafu active here too.

I think I heard somewhere that they took on 50 extra helpers a couple of weeks, or so, ago, as until then it was pretty much a one man outfit, but you would have thought with 50 extra bodies in the team they would be able to sort out problems so much quicker than they are doing just now.

That is the most ridiculous nonsense I have seen here for a while.  
2174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I sent ETH from Bitstamp to another exchange - is it lost forever? on: March 06, 2018, 05:24:31 AM
Bittrex, Binance, Bitfinex, Coinexchange.io, Coinhako, Coinpayments, Cryptopia, Exodus, Kucoin,  Koinex, Ledger, Liqui, SimplexFX , Bithumb and Huobi all don't accept smart contracts.


Send all smart contract payments to MEW or a personal wallet and then to an exchange - saves a lot of problems.

It will reach the other exchange but cannot be processed by them. Some exchanges will manually recover it. Some exchanges will charge a fee for manual recovery and some exchanges won't recover it.


It has to do with how APIs from ICOs and Exchanges track deposits from the blockchain. A lot of exchanges do not accept smart contracts. There are good reasons for this.

ICOs often send the tokens to the senders address. Which in the case of a smart contract is the contract address - so your tokens will be lost.

With a NORMAL transaction the ETH is sent from the senders address via the blockchain to the receiver address.

With a SMART CONTRACT  a 0 ETH transaction with instructions (code) is sent to the CONTRACT address. The contract address then executes a internal transaction (code) to the receiver address.

BTC, LTC and BCH do not have that function. Smart contracts are unique to Ethereum and Ethereum based coins.

NORMAL



SMART CONTRACT



2175  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitstamp, Ethereum withdraw smart contract deposits in other exchanges on: March 06, 2018, 03:48:34 AM
Bittrex, Binance, Bitfinex, Coinexchange.io, Coinhako, Coinpayments, Cryptopia, Exodus, Kucoin,  Koinex, Ledger, Liqui, SimplexFX , Bithumb and Huobi all don't accept smart contracts.


Send all smart contract payments to MEW or a personal wallet and then to an exchange - saves a lot of problems.


It has to do with how APIs from ICOs and Exchanges track deposits from the blockchain. A lot of exchanges do not accept smart contracts.

ICOs often send the tokens to the senders address. Which in the case of a smart contract is the contract address - so your tokens will be lost.

With a NORMAL transaction the ETH is sent from the senders address via the blockchain to the receiver address.

With a SMART CONTRACT  a 0 ETH transaction with instructions (code) is sent to the CONTRACT address. The contract address then executes a internal transaction (code) to the receiver address.

BTC, LTC and BCH do not have that function. Smart contracts are unique to Ethereum and Ethereum based coins.

NORMAL



SMART CONTRACT



2176  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why does the Exchange warn me about withdrawing ETH but not BTC/LTC/BCH? on: March 06, 2018, 12:55:58 AM
It has to do with how APIs from ICOs and Exchanges track deposits from the blockchain. A lot of exchanges do not accept smart contracts.

Bittrex, Binance, Bitfinex, Coinexchange.io, Coinhako, Coinpayments, Cryptopia, Exodus, Kucoin,  Koinex, Ledger, Liqui, SimplexFX , Bithumb and Huobi all don't accept smart contracts.


ICOs often send the tokens to the senders address. Which in the case of a smart contract is the contract address - so your tokens will be lost.

With a NORMAL transaction the ETH is sent from the senders address via the blockchain to the receiver address.

With a SMART CONTRACT  a 0 ETH transaction with instructions (code) is sent to the CONTRACT address. The contract address then executes a internal transaction (code) to the receiver address.

BTC, LTC and BCH do not have that function. Smart contracts are unique to Ethereum and Ethereum based coins.

NORMAL



SMART CONTRACT

2177  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: March 01, 2018, 06:39:38 AM
Not even going to try to wade thru the "intelligent" discourse that I've just briefly skimmed thru, but I do have a serious question.

I purchased a physical 2fa dongle thru Paytopia from Cryptopia a couple of weeks ago, then the seriousness of the delays hit, and it has only just in the last couple of days shown as "Completed".  Originally they claim those will ship out in three days, however has anyone gotten one lately or seen how long it is actually going to take to ship to the US?

Yes - they took some time but all three of them arrived.
2178  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: February 27, 2018, 09:35:50 PM

too many issues about XEM deposit and withdraw, also mine deposit over 2000 Xem still not credited

Do you have the TXid ?
2179  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: February 26, 2018, 11:54:08 AM

You called me a cheater and now you are calling me a liar.  Wow must be your childish brain of yours.  Grow up dude.  If you work for Cryptopia you are here to help not calle people liars and cheaters.

Well I'm not finished with cryptopia until I get my money back.  Once I get my money back that's the last time I deal with Cryptopia.  Too bad I was making cryptopia thousands.  Your company's loss.

You said you make Cryptopia thousands. From your screenshots I very much doubt that. For Cryptopia to make $1000 from your trades you need to trade $500,000.

From the screenshots provided earlier in this thread I doubt that you traded $1 million.



2180  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: February 23, 2018, 08:11:49 AM
I start believe cryptopia may became a scam, they should not accept any new customers not add any new coin just deal with customers support tickets and let them withdraw their funds

They delisted more coins than they listed.

Accepting more customers has no effect on the deposits or withdrawals. It causes more KYC issues when accounts are closed.

They should ban people mining to their accounts - that is what really kills exchange wallets.
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