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2261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 04:19:11 PM
Glad that it's back again, we are going to see a couple games that will be too obvious and still scary, I think it should be important to realize that not everything we want will happen and sometimes we lose some obvious games, not like City or Arsenal ends up with full wins eventually anyway.

Liverpool, United, City, Spurs all are playing teams that they should be able to beat and I think it should be important to wait and see if they will end up with a win, I know that it will be very hard for it to happen but I think it should be able to get a good profit from that bet if everything goes according to plan. I may be wrong on this but I think it should be easy bet and could give some good return without a doubt.

Have you made a multi-bet on these outcomes? What is the final odds? I'm not sure that United can be put on a par with Liverpool, City and Spurs, now their place is next to Chelsea. Today United plays with the last team in the Premier League, but this is an away game, plus Casemiro will not take part in the game. The bet on United seems dubious to me.
2262  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: October 21, 2023, 03:55:09 PM
Ну а как ты импортозаместишь микроэлектронику с разрешением меньше 60 нм. Там речь идет уже о серийных 5-7, а экспериментальных около 3. Я даже не представляю где можно взять столько денег, чтобы выйти хотя бы на эти освоенные уже Тайванем и прочими 7 ?
Очевидно, что никакие 2-3 года здесь не катят. И это очень большая проблема.
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С импортозамещением еще вот какая проблемка есть: в условиях открытого рынка "импотозамещенный" товар не существует. Т.е. никто не купит процессор байкал если можно купить интел, так как у интела и цена и технические характеристики лучше. Поэтому либо продолжаем жить "в осаде" по заветам чучхе, либо открываем рынок и вся местное говно дохнет. До того чтобы не доводить ситуацию когда кроме говна ничего не производится конечно же местные царьки-папуасы додуматься не могут (да и не надо оно им).
2263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 03:02:13 PM
Al hilal is fine without him but the main problem is the money used to sign neymar will be useless caused by he was always being injury. I think that al hilal shall think about neymar. Al hilal will be getting compensation from FIFA regarding injury that happened with neymar but that's not enough caused by neymar has a very big salary. It's a loss for al hilal caused by neymar was a very important player being recruited by paying a lot of money to the PSG. Im very disappoint to hear how neymar was getting ACL injury again.
It's a very bad news to hear yesterday. I thought that if al hilal must be doing something. The international break was destroying neymar's career in SPL. It's caused by he got serious injury that was ruining his career for almost a year starting from this time.

What actions do you expect from Al-Hilal? What should they think about? I think in deals of this size/level, all options (including serious injury) should be covered. The text of the contract is not available to us, so we can only guess what will happen next. Previously, such injuries (especially at that age) automatically meant the end of a career, now medicine has advanced far, but knowing Neymar, I’m not at all sure that we will see him on the field again (at least in adequate shape).
2264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 21, 2023, 02:53:55 PM
Being ahead of a Ronaldo in the goal scorer list when Ronaldo has a group that is much easier than that of Belgium speaks volumes so far. Lukaku for some reason gets along very well in the national team despite missing De Bruyne. Actually, it is not only about the 10 goals he scored, but about the number of his goals relative to total Belgium goals. He scored 10/16 whereas Ronaldo scored 9/32. This shows how much Lukaku means to the team. He also assisted 1 goal, which gives him a participation rate of 68.75%. That's ridiculous and nobody would have seen that coming.

I wouldn't make a direct connection between one player's goal percentage and his importance. For example, in Spain, Villa scored something like 80-90% of the goals in the final part of the World Cup and in one of the European Championships, but the main link in the team was not he, but the midfield. Under Xavi and Iniesta, Messi also scored a high percentage of goals and, as you can see, it was easy to replace him with Villa.
2265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 02:47:49 PM
I think no  Wink In your case, it would be more profitable for Granada to win (if you do not take into account the most profitable option when you guess the exact score). Today, most forecasters received 1.5 points and thus you are 0.5 points behind a large group of people. Sometimes it’s better not to get any points at all, but at the same time so that others don’t get either  Grin

I don't know. This is my first time I'm competing in a pool so I'm still learning. The problem is that I have no idea how others have answered until the game starts or if I lock my answer. Implayed this way the entered season and so far it has brought me good result so I'll continue to do so.

This feature works the same for everyone, it would be strange if you could spy on other people’s forecasts - then the leaders would remain invulnerable. Or we would see “games” where people made fake predictions and then changed them at the last minute.
Last season I was also a newbie and things were going well for me, this year everything is much worse  Cheesy
2266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 21, 2023, 10:57:59 AM
Addition to what you've said, all four fixtures against Real Madrid and Barcelona won them all. ~

Hmm what? Real Madrid won the first game against Barcelona last season with a score of 3-1 and knocked them out of the Spanish Cup. I don’t understand how you can write something that didn’t happen? Is it really difficult to check information if you yourself don’t remember exactly?
As for the strengths of the teams this season, of course Real looks like the clear favorite, although the bookmakers give it a modest advantage before the head-to-head meeting.

No. No. No. I don't mean to be rude but you've got to go do your check properly. Three to one goal was 2022. That was the last game of the season and Real Madrid won.

I got it wrong, Last season, Barcelona and Real Madrid met five times or four times. Twice was during the Copa Del Ry and Real Madrid won the first game with four goals to nothing, Barcelona later won the other leg with three goals to nothing.
Go check it out and see you're not correct.
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Okay, let me explain how wrong I am if you write that Barcelona won 4 games last season, but the facts are that out of four games (we don’t take the Super Cup) Real won 2?
Even just look at what I highlighted, don’t you think that your words contradict your other words? I hope you can explain what you meant and where you got confused.

Why reject the Super Cup? I'd love to know why!

I did go back to check properly,  Both El Classico games, Barcelona won, two goals to one and then the other one to nil. The Super Cup saw Real Madrid winning the first game and Barcelona the second leg of the super cup.

That's to say they met four times in a season and Barcelona won three ( two for La Liga and the third Super Cup ) how's this difficult to understand?

You continue to write made-up nonsense. Last season, in the 9th round, Real beat Barcelona 3-1. Thus, if we take into account the Super Cup, then Real won 2 games out of 5, and if we take only La Liga and the Spanish Cup, then Real won 2 games out of 4.
Your words are 100% contrary to the facts, can you somehow explain this or will you continue to invent something that did not happen?
And seems you don't know the meaning of El Classico - it's not just Real Madrid's games against Barcelona in La Liga, but also their games in any other tournament.
2267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 09:23:23 PM
I see that Granada let down many forecasters (by not scoring their goal) and did not allow them to earn exact points. It’s quite illogical since Granada scores quite a lot of goals on average, while Osasuna concedes enough.
/snip

That's the reason why I went with a 3-2 win for Osasuna. I expected Osasuna to win but Granada played only two games this season without scoring a goal. Never mind, I like getting a point here. A point is always better than nothing Smiley

I think no  Wink In your case, it would be more profitable for Granada to win (if you do not take into account the most profitable option when you guess the exact score). Today, most forecasters received 1.5 points and thus you are 0.5 points behind a large group of people. Sometimes it’s better not to get any points at all, but at the same time so that others don’t get either  Grin
2268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 20, 2023, 09:14:59 PM
Addition to what you've said, all four fixtures against Real Madrid and Barcelona won them all. ~

Hmm what? Real Madrid won the first game against Barcelona last season with a score of 3-1 and knocked them out of the Spanish Cup. I don’t understand how you can write something that didn’t happen? Is it really difficult to check information if you yourself don’t remember exactly?
As for the strengths of the teams this season, of course Real looks like the clear favorite, although the bookmakers give it a modest advantage before the head-to-head meeting.

No. No. No. I don't mean to be rude but you've got to go do your check properly. Three to one goal was 2022. That was the last game of the season and Real Madrid won.

I got it wrong, Last season, Barcelona and Real Madrid met five times or four times. Twice was during the Copa Del Ry and Real Madrid won the first game with four goals to nothing, Barcelona later won the other leg with three goals to nothing.
Go check it out and see you're not correct.
~

Okay, let me explain how wrong I am if you write that Barcelona won 4 games last season, but the facts are that out of four games (we don’t take the Super Cup) Real won 2?
Even just look at what I highlighted, don’t you think that your words contradict your other words? I hope you can explain what you meant and where you got confused.
2269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 09:06:54 PM
bump

what an international break can do to a topic, it was a real deal to find it
on a page 7 in Gambling topic, with my post - going into International break as last one

nevertheless, Osasuna is breezing past Granada as expected (it does seem that this season has heavy favorites for relegation - Almeria and Granada, comparing to last season when half a league flighted for survival)

Sevilla is waiting for Real, in a match that can hardly be called a derby, hopefully it will prove me wrong

I see that Granada let down many forecasters (by not scoring their goal) and did not allow them to earn exact points. It’s quite illogical since Granada scores quite a lot of goals on average, while Osasuna concedes enough.
Seville - Real is interesting only because of the “signboard”, I think that Real should take 3 points without any problems. Surprises are possible in the Barcelona - Athletic game.
2270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 08:57:23 PM
agree with a doubt stand, but Dortmund will probably have a hard fought win
didn't watch it, but statistic said 22 shots, 5 on target, and one goal by Brandt, enough for a minimal win

agree, they don't look very good at the moment, but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles

while I was typing, it ended, 1:0 for Dortmund

An unexpected result for me, I predicted 3-1 in favor of Dortmund, but only a minimal victory as a result. Despite the fact that Dortmund scores on average more than 2 goals per game, and Werder concedes more than 2. Well. For at least a day, Dortmund is in first place and I will hope that the Bundesliga in the remaining games will continue to show greater results as in previous rounds.
2271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 20, 2023, 06:25:17 PM
I wanted to see the bookmakers' odds on who qualifies from this group, but for some reason the bookmakers haven't published them yet. I can assume that Italy’s chances will be estimated at about 1.60, the coefficient should not be less because in fact this is a multi-bet: Italy must defeat North Macedonia, which is inconvenient for them, and then not lose to Ukraine. The task is not very difficult, but Italy looks unconvincing in recent games.

Quite funny, but there are still no quotes. Moreover, some groups have already been “settled” and you can bet on who will take first place or be in the top 2, but not for group C. Damn, is this really difficult? I don’t like small bookmakers, but sometimes they have quotes for some events much earlier than the main market participants.
If anyone is using a local bookmaker and there are already quotes then I would like to know what they are.
2272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 06:16:25 PM
Neymar being injured again wasn't really unexpected was it? No idea why they paid so much for him, he is not like some superstar famous person for money and views reasons neither, I mean don't get me wrong I am not denying his talent, but people like Ronaldo and Messi draw people to watch their games, look at just this topic, Ronaldo made this league known all by himself that's fame, it is of course because he is talented but that's not enough, just being talented is not enough, you need to be so famous that you need to make that money back for them.

Neymar wasn't loved like that by the people all that much, maybe Brazilians could like him a bit but not everyone around the world so I am assuming it was already a bad transfer even if he was healthy, now that he is injured, it is even worse.

I agree, Neymar is not a purely positive brand, many simply do not like him and he causes irritation. There are impudent/arrogant people who do not cause negative emotions (for example, Ibrahimovic or Mourinho) because they have proven their status and respect for what they do with their achievements and attitude to work (and this also applies to fans). Neymar has achieved a lot, but in relation to what was expected of him, he has achieved nothing, plus with his attitude that looks like disrespect for everyone, he is not a “great brand.”
2273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 06:07:13 PM
I’m expecting a strange result from that game tomorrow. It’s a derby and derbies doesn’t always go the way we predicted. Chelsea recently have been doing well. Pochettino has finally gotten his magic touch and the players are blending and linking up well. Anybody watching Chelsea closely this season would have been able to see the positive impact Mauricio Pochettino has made since taking charge. A lot of EPL fans are writing them off because they’re facing a decent Arsenal side that haven’t lost a game this season.
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It’s quite strange to hear this about the coach of a team that is in 11th place. Although you are right that the derby is a special match and the results in such games are often unpredictable. If the odds for this game were adequate, then I would think that a double chance bet on Chelsea would make sense, but unfortunately, in my opinion, bookmakers underestimate Arsenal, so if you place a bet, it is better to bet on a simple victory for Arsenal, the odds are very attractive - 2.22
2274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 20, 2023, 05:58:39 PM
Speculation about Lionel Messi returning to Barcelona continues to be discussed, but for me it is not a desirable scenario. Lionel Messi's contract will end in year 2025 and if he plans to return to Barcelona in the following year it is much less likely. If he intends to play in the World Cup for his country then the most likely thing is for him to stay in MLS with an automatic contract extension and I believe this to be a much more likely scenario for him than returning to Barcelona.

Of course no one knows how the rest of Lionel Messi's career will go in the future, but I think Barcelona should think about other options compared to bringing Lionel Messi back to Camp Nou. The salary issue may be a consideration and Lionel Messi is unlikely to be willing to accept a small salary to return there, although that is just my assumption.

Messi will never return to Barcelona (and Europe). Even while playing for PSG, he did quite a lot of damage to his image as he showed far from the results that were expected from the winner of so many PR awards. Now he is rapidly aging, and given the fact that even in his youth, speed and the ability to run a lot were not his strengths, now this will be too obvious. This return will be a failure because he is no longer at the level of the top teams.
2275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 20, 2023, 05:49:54 PM
Addition to what you've said, all four fixtures against Real Madrid and Barcelona won them all. ~

Hmm what? Real Madrid won the first game against Barcelona last season with a score of 3-1 and knocked them out of the Spanish Cup. I don’t understand how you can write something that didn’t happen? Is it really difficult to check information if you yourself don’t remember exactly?
As for the strengths of the teams this season, of course Real looks like the clear favorite, although the bookmakers give it a modest advantage before the head-to-head meeting.
2276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 20, 2023, 05:40:57 PM
Dortmund is currently in have good situation and there is a high chance for them to win the game against Werder Bremen because in the last five games, Werder Bremen had they lost three games and won two games while Dortmund never lost a game recently, and they had just one draw maybe the best thing is to bet on Dortmund to be safe.



If we talk about reliability, then I would rather bet on Dortmund double chance. Although even here, knowing the instability of Dortmund, there can be no guarantees and such a bet is essentially meaningless due to the small odds - 1.08. By the way, the fact that Dortmund has no defeats in the Bundesliga yet is rather an argument against them, since usually such positivity does not last long for them  Cheesy
2277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: October 20, 2023, 05:02:48 PM
The two have something to fight for. Fury long against Francis can say goodbye to his undefeated record, legacy is on the line per se. Francis losing his boxing debut means no other boxing match for him after this. No one else such as Wilder will take him seriously if he loses against Fury. He will once again just stick to MMA in PFL which is an unknown platform to MMA fans.

Mike Tyson I think helped Francis gain more confidence, and with the motivation to make a ton of money in boxing he will do his best.

For Fury, not winning this fight would, of course, be a terrible disaster. But for Ngannou, it seems to me that this will be a simple nuisance that will be compensated by the fact that he will earn as much money as he earned during his entire career in the UFC. Roughly speaking, Ngannou doesn’t care about this defeat at all, he will get the money anyway and I’m sure that he is not going to continue his career in boxing, this is just a fight for money. Another question is that if he wins, he will receive huge prospects, but this looks too fantastic.
2278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 20, 2023, 04:56:42 PM
Opening match tomorrow for Ligue 1 matchday 9 between Le Havre vs Lens, as promotion teams not really poor with Le Havre performance in Ligue 1 with their statistic 2 win, 3 draw and 3 loss. Le Havre have better standings position than Lens with one point remaining but experienced team Lens has chance for continue the impressive after winning from Arsenal in Champion League last match.

Current standings, Ligue 1 seems interested for this season because several teams have fewest points left and opportunity for Le Havre or Lens if can winning this match they will move up until top six standings position. Lens have bad started in this season depend their achievement last season success finish on 2nd position, but in Ligue 1 season 2023/24 with 8 games they have loss four matches.

Lens has fallen very low compared to last season, but we can still assume that so far this result is below their expected result, plus we must assume that the newcomer Le Havre, which now has very mediocre results, won't give a surprise. Based on this, I think that Lance's quote is very attractive, the only thing that can introduce additional randomness is that this game will take place after the break. The current quotes are:

4.5 - 3.5 - 1.9   
2279  Local / Разное / Re: Форум недоступен из России on: October 20, 2023, 04:46:26 PM
Ну не преувеличивай. У Бивейрона ведь посыл другой был. Плохо, конечно, что нас ущемляют; но раз уж у нас нет выбора, то надо найти  в этом что-то полезное. Всё лучше, чем просто ныть и взывать к справедливости. Сколько ни говори "халва", а знания и профит сами по себе не появятся.
Поэтому раз уж запреты есть по факту и мы ничего с этим поделать всё равно  не можем, то вполне логично извлечь из этого хоть какую-то пользу. Но, как правильно заметил Бивейрон, при правильной организации сопротивления можно и профит извлечь и окрепнуть ментально).

Посыл то может и хороший, только вот по факту это все маняфантазии для самоуспокоения. Да, можно ловко научиться всё делать через жопу, но это "преимущество" будет только относительно тех кто не научился, нормальный человек будет на таких ловкачей как на ебанатов/лузеров смотреть.
Грубо говоря рфский "продвинутый" пользователь смотрит на рфского нормиса, который не смог себе ВПН просуетить, свысока. А какой-нибудь датчанин смотрит на обоих как на говно  Grin
2280  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: October 20, 2023, 04:34:24 PM
Roll Eyes завидую вашей вере в то что прям существуют те кто будет рвать и метать не в свою пользу (и очевидно под большим риском случайно утонуть в ванной). Я вот почитываю новости об экономических (а на самом деле нет, обычный криминал) преступлениях и "спорах хозяйствующих субъектов", отличий от 90-х не вижу. ,Те же убийства, похищения людей, "слепые" правоохранители и т.д. И это всё не про увровень ларьков, а госкорпорации рфские.
Оно везде так, просто в развитых демократиях пресса работает по другому, те кто писал в поддержку палестины в фейсбуке подтвердят как слаженно работает демократия когда нужно, как быстро прилетает бан в инсте иили мете, поэтому когда нужно, даже квакнуть не успеешь, не то что в страшных бантустанах и папуасиях, где все через одно место. С оккупай воллстрит тоже не сильно кто церемонился, как и с теми, кто посягает на самое главное, на бабки. И финмониторинг после этого покажется просто отрядом спасения.

Да, да, "везде плохо" и "в америке негров бьют" это исконные ватные скрепы. Я уже понял, зачем мне повторять из раза в раз  Cheesy
Бан в фейсбуке, инсте (частные компании кстати, если не нравится их политика то идите в те компании где иная политика или создавайте свою компанию) или еще где конечно равен рфским нарам.

Ну а ликвидация целых наций из-за зеленых бумажек я так понимаю никого не пугает? Когда целые города с землей ровняют вместе с мирными, а потом эти же люди, кто все этого готовил, крышевал и поставлял оружие, потом на "поддержку" всего этого ярдов 100 выделяют это типо норм?

Семиты (если вы про них) друг друга геноцидили еще до появления доллара как такового, так что не сильно понятно о чем вы. То что сейчас одной стороне можно много больше чем другой естетсвенно мне не нравится, но это оффтопик здесь.

Что касается "финкомиссаров", то было бы странно если бы государство не решилось вступить в борьбу за свои же деньги, которые растворяются в экспорте и судя по вою в телеге и постах из серии "ничего не получится" говорит о том, что направление было выбрано верно и постепенно, не сразу конечно, так не бывает, но в итоге курс уйдет ниже 100 и все сработает, просто видимо куш был настолько солидный, а сопротивление настолько сильным, что если бы не остановить всю эту экспортную вольницу, все бы увидели и 120 и 200 и дальше по курсу.  

Ну вот опять плохие бояре... Царь то хороший надеюсь?  Grin
Экономикой некоторое время в ручном режиме можно рулить и курс действительно пойдет куда надо, но это временно. Обращать внимание на отдельные конвульсии и не видеть что рублю стратегически капец как минимум странно.

Почему не в свою? Всегда и везде на любых местах найдутся, люди которые хотят рвать и метать, будь это Финмониторинг, надзор какой-нибудь, да хоть завод. Потому что есть личности, которые очень сильно любят власть, а ею так просто никто не поделиться и не отдаст. Ну а если у такой личности есть связи с правоохранителями или ты и есть он самый, то такого утопить в ванной себе дороже.

Это для вас со стороны есть какие-то "правоохранители", по факту куча группировок и друг друга топят в ванных только так. Почитайте вот канальчик: https://t.me/s/vchkogpu Подивитесь насколько глубока кроличья нора  Roll Eyes
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