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1261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 13, 2023, 12:17:46 PM


I will not talk about the correct betting results and I want to express frustration at two matches that should have allowed my multibet to win.

Here it is Inter vs Real Sociedad and even though we all know that both teams have been confirmed to have qualified for the round of 16, at least the competition as group D winners is still continuing considering the points earned are still the same. But unfortunately Inter, who played as hosts, seemed to be carrying out a formal match and did not seem to be aiming for first place in the group, so they let Real Sociedad control the game. Lautaro Martinez was also rested in this match and I know how important this player is and coach Simione Inzhagi doesn't want this key player to get injured in this match. In the end, the score ended without a goal from either team and Real Sociedad emerged as group D winners with a superior goal difference.

Elsewhere, there is Copenhagen vs Galatasaray and this is the hottest match in Group A which determines which one of them will accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16. But what happened was beyond expectations and my predictions were wrong because I thought there would be a lot of goals in this match and at least the two teams would return goals until they reached 3 goals or more. However, there was only 1 goal and it came from Copenhagen and Galatasaray did not prove their mentality in this group competition so they were finally eliminated. Well, I thought it was an easy bet and I made a mistake in these two games. Sad

First of all, I must say that you should not be upset because multi-bets with a total odds of 22 are won very rarely, no matter what “logical” outcomes they consist of.

In general, I agree with your analysis of the Inter - Sociedad game, but I note that the point is not only about Inter, but also about the fact that Sociedad are quite strong. Another question is why Inter played so carefully and why they didn’t go all in (after all, qualification from at least second place was already guaranteed) and didn’t try to win even at the cost of the risk of losing.

Copenhagen and Galatasaray, on the one hand, surprised with their low performance, but on the other hand, it was a typical “game of death.” Therefore, the one who scored first was only concerned with not losing the advantage.

Now I will comment on the other three games. Napoli - Braga, there are no questions here, I made a forecast with a final score of 2-0 because I was sure that Napoli would win convincingly. Here are the other two games, you guessed the result, but I would say that there was a lot of luck here - both Real and Bayern did not have any tournament tasks in these meetings, and the opponents had maximum motivation to win. Both games were away games. Real Madrid have most of their main squad injured. It would be logical to expect that either there or there could at least be a draw.

In general, I can say that in some picks you were lucky, in others you were not, but in general there are no anomalies in the results, just normal fluctuations.
1262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 13, 2023, 08:58:19 AM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

A strange question for a crypto forum, I would consider this topic suitable for forums about relationships or the like.

Firstly, here you can replace gambling with anything: any hobby, even any job that requires attention more than 8 hours a day, business, building a career, etc. Both spouses can do this (even at this stage, serious time management and separation of priorities are already necessary) and when children appear, they again must find a balance between all activities since there are only 24 hours in a day and you cannot help but pay attention to children, which means a waste time for certain activities should be reduced.

Secondly, these are purely personal issues and there cannot be universal advice here. In some couples, the husband may give up his hobby/career for the sake of his wife, or vice versa, in some couples one of the spouses would rather get divorced than give up his job/hobby. All options are normal if two people agreed in this way (even if it’s a divorce haha). There are many relationships that suit those who are in them, but for example they would not suit you, but what difference does it make if you look at it from the outside? There's nothing to discuss here.
1263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 13, 2023, 08:36:35 AM

Anyone know where to bet on next manager to be sacked? As soon as United lose tonight, I'm going to look for odds haha.

Russian bookies offer such market. ETH is currently at 2.5 on 22bet to get sacked.

I see ETH leading the team until the end of the season; he isn't that horrible and they are only a few points away from the top four. I'm willing to place a $50 side bet with you that ETH will survive until January 1st of next year



Are you sure this is a Russian bookmaker? Their details are in Cyprus and being in Russia I was unable to access this site. Using VPN (through the UK) I couldn’t either. Tomorrow, with a PC and a more flexible VPN, I will try to study what they offer, but I can’t say that they look trustworthy.

After yesterday's defeat to Bayern, Ten Hag's chances of being sacked have certainly increased. And it amazes me that he seems to be deliberately adding fuel to the fire at the post-match press conference: “We played well and did not deserve to lose.” Hmm... I wonder what you can count on with just one shot on target in the entire game? Plus, one way or another, the fact that Copenhagen (!!!) qualified for the 1/8 worsens the impression of United’s failure.

The fact that United is formally not far from the top 4 does not mean that they have a chance to get there. Bookmakers estimate this probability as 1 in 8, and after the defeat to Liverpool (which I am 99% sure of) it will be something like 1 in 10. I’m not sure yet that I want to place any bets (I need to think about the odds), but it seems to me that he could be sacked after the game with Liverpool.
1264  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: NFT на биткоине: BRC-20 on: December 13, 2023, 08:08:55 AM
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Вот поиск какого-то равновесия в системе с таким расчетом чтобы она все-таки развивалась и росла это и есть теперь основная головная боль разработчиков биткоина.

Зачем разработчикам вообще об этом думать? Это как раз их не должно волновать вообще так как прекрасно регулируется самим рынком - кто больше платит тот сеть и использует и размер платы определяется "как в учебнике" балансом спроса и предложения. В конце концов как платежное средство биток уже несколько лет как проиграл всем конкурентам и если он вдруг найдет свою нишу в хранении цифрового мусора типа ординалсов, то почему нет.

Если бы ублюдки разработчики хотя бы чуть-чуть думали о том чтобы биток "развивался и рос" они бы реализовывали решения по противодействию тем кто из псевдоанонимной п2п сети делает централизованную сеть с КУС и АМЛ.

Беда в том, что теоретически можно выделить под картиночки квоту в блоках, но кто её будет соблюдать и не будут ли поклонники Ординалсов пытаться искать технические решения для обхода подобных квот. Ну, и моральный аспект: квотирование выглядит вообще-то не самым красивым образом. Если можно технически квотировать одних, то можно и запрещать других. По факту, некоторые пулы так и действуют, но топить за такое... это так себе идея. Sad

Квотирование = цензурирование. Немного противоречит битковским устоям, нее?
Плюс надо отдавать себе отчёт что любой механизм цензурирование рано или поздно (думаю скорее рано в этом случае) оказывается в руках регуляторов и в итоге вы будете не "место для картинки" просить а разрешение на "сделать транзакцию" (КУС/АМЛ в комплекте).
1265  Local / Майнеры / Re: Самая большая комиссия майнерам биткоин&# on: December 13, 2023, 07:44:53 AM
Если бы блок намайнил мелкий пул, то сложно сказать что бы случилось с ошибочной комиссией, но антпул такие монеты возвращает после их процедур.
А вы уважаемые коллеги чтобы делали, если бы добыли такой блок в соло?
Забрать столько нечестно.

Забрал бы конечно. А что значит нечестно? С точки зрения каких правил? Биток это игра по определённым правилам и как говориться "используя наш сервис вы соглашаетесь и бла бла бла", все максимально честно на мой взгляд.

Вот сейчас любители институционалов в битке (патамушта курс вырастет!) с удивлением узнают что им то уже надо разрешение брать на то чтоб битком пользоваться (кус/амл), но понимания что они сами к этому привели нет совсем. Я за настоящий биток: не ваши ключи - не ваши биткоины, неоткатываемые, нецензурируемые транзакции, если кому-то не нравится то пусть идёт в другие монеты/валюты, выбор очень широк.

Что касается куда потратить треть ярда рублей, то думаю сменил бы гражданство -> реализовал бы свои 5 стартапов -> если бы хотя бы один из них выстрелил, то вывел бы 30% от того что оставил бы в битке при вытягивании такого лотерейного билета -> вложился бы в то чтобы убить биток (обнулить). Задумка как это сделать есть, продать ее особо никому не продашь, реализовывать ее сейчас опасно, а вот потом норм, можно в историю свои имя вписать.
1266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The shorter the time you spend the better on: December 12, 2023, 03:04:48 PM
Shorting your play time in gambling is the best strategy in gambling, apart from knowing how to manage your bankroll, don't spend too much time on a casino game, the longer the time you spent the more you lose, this is the truth that many gamblers won't accept at first until they realize it later.

For them it's about your addiction, and that's what brings in more money, and I am here to announce to you that time fixation is also a good way in gambling, spending 20 minutes in casino a day is better than someone who spend 1 hour.
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Do you agree or disagree? Drop your reason why.


This is too radical advice, maybe you have a specific gambling experience (and you think that it can be extended to everyone else), or you are far from gambling in general.
Explain to me how I can spend a maximum of 20 minutes on gambling if, for example, I prefer to place live bets on tennis (or football) matches? The game itself lasts much longer and if we are talking about tennis, you have to make a lot of bets to try to catch value, and if we are talking about football, then you can wait almost an hour for the right moment to bet.

Or, for example, let’s take the most popular (at least in all polls it is always in the top) game - Dice. Many people like to play here using autobetting and custom algorithms, the most popular case being martingale. Even taking into account the fact that now many casinos offer fast bets (when up to 10 bets are made per second), it sometimes takes much more than 20 minutes to enjoy the process and “catch” a loss. Especially if you bet on 1.1 and then multiply your bet tenfold after a loss, and multiply it tenfold again after two losses in a row.

It’s the same story with poker - what serious game can you play with so little time? Only some multi-tables, but ordinary players don’t like such fuss and chaos, but pros who live from this.

In general, your advice makes sense (don’t spend a lot of time on gambling, don’t get addicted to it), but there are many options when short gaming sessions are simply pointless and will not provide the required pleasure.
1267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: December 12, 2023, 12:39:41 PM
Very few referral bonuses are obtained so that someone does not share with others unless they have a lot of followers so that they will be able to get bonuses from the referrals they share.
If we only have a few followers, I'm sure we won't be able to get bonuses from the referrals we share. In fact, I've found that the referrals we get depend on the referrals who play and if they don't play, just taking referrals, we won't get any bonuses.

Of course, the casino will not pay money from its own pocket, this is a kind of cashback, but in this case for the one who attracted a new player to the casino. And this is clearly written almost everywhere I’ve seen referral programs.

As for the fact that many write that they have never received significant referral payments, you just need to understand that this is not for ordinary people, but for influencers/media personalities. If you referred a friend and he lost $100 in a casino, then let’s say you get 25-50 cents. This is a ridiculous amount and not worth doing at all. But when some influencer makes a post with his referral link, maybe thousands of people will register using it, and then even such small amounts will add up to a large one (especially if there are high rollers among these thousands).

Therefore, yes, for an ordinary person there is no point in wasting time on this, but if you are an influencer/celebrity, then your word/like is expensive and will bring profit. By the way, influencers are protected from the fact that the casino may not pay them these referral earnings - after all, everyone will hear the influencer’s word and if they speak out about such a problem, the casino will lose its reputation.
1268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! on: December 12, 2023, 12:13:37 PM
In my opinion, gambling depends on the home environment and the environment where he plays with his friends, because if the environment and friends are good then his brain will definitely avoid gambling. However, if the place where you live and the environment is bad, many people gamble, then indirectly, if they have a track record, the people around them will also do the same. Not because of gambling advertisements scattered in the media, because if it happened because of gambling advertisements in the media the whole world would definitely gamble.

Your view of the world is too black and white. There are always shades (and gambling, by the way, is not something inherently bad) and gambling is part of most games - even football, even chess.

For example, a football player has a choice: make a long shot (probability of scoring a goal is 10%) or trick the defender and improve own position, make a short shot or give an assist (the probability of this is 15%). Which is better to choose? To some extent, this is a gambling issue. Teams employ special analysts who give advice to players (through the coach) on how best to act so that the team receives the greatest benefit.

In chess it’s the same, people are not computers and cannot count complex positions to the end, so they have a choice: for example, go to a difficult option where you can either win or lose, or go to a calm continuation of the position and with a 75% chance of getting a draw. Depending on the tournament situation, they make a decision and this is also gambling to some extent.

Now let’s take computer games that most young people play - they are all filled with gambling (and this is even if we don’t remember about loot boxes). There are also a lot of choices there, like: beat boss A and with a 1% chance of getting the legendary item A1, or beat Boss B and with a 10% chance of getting the rare item B1. The decision of these picks is also gambling.

Therefore, if we return to the first post of the topic, we can say that gambling is not an innate quality, but simply a part of real life and you just need to be able to “work” with it correctly.
1269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: December 12, 2023, 10:59:17 AM
Damn, both Borussia and Milan offer insanely attractive odds for those that will go all-in.
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For Pot B bets, yes. Another (in my opinion) anomaly caught my attention: in the games Dortmund - PSG and Newcastle - Milan, the odds for a draw are very high, 4.02 in the first case and 3.92 in the second. On average, bookmakers quote a draw as 3.5 in pairs where the teams are roughly equal and each needs a win. Isn't this the case? PSG need a win to ensure Newcastle don't overtake them. Newcastle needs a win to claim 2nd place. Dortmund needs a win to stay in first place and have an easy round of 16, and Milan can still make the top 2 too.
It seemed to me that in these pairs there is a lot of value in a bet on a draw if we are talking about a cash bet.

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Tomorrow will be a very important day also for Pot A as the person who makes the most points will climb good positions and we know after this last match day the number of games will be fewer.

In the playoffs it is really difficult to seriously improve your position, but still there will be 29 games ahead, which is from 0 to 87 points, so even if someone is more successful in guessing the exact scores, then only with this can you win back 10-20 points. If you take risks and guess the wins of the underdogs/draws, then the increase in points can be even greater, in fact, many participants still have a chance.
1270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 12, 2023, 10:24:59 AM
Liverpool 4.41

Aston Villa 16.66

Now everything looks fair, much more adequate than a week earlier when City’s odds were 1.25, and even a little earlier 1.1 (by the way, isn’t this a record-breaking drop in outrights?).

Both of these two odds looks like a proper odds to bet on outright bet for the remaining months. Liverpool has a good chance obviously to win the EPL but Aston Villa might be the dark horse this season just like Girona on La Liga. Putting small amount on Aston Villa might not seems like a bad idea after all and 3/4 of their next fixtures seems like games that they could win easily
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Why did you miss Arsenal? Is 3.92 too low or do you consider them historical losers?  Wink In general, yes, they have long been something like Tottenham, zero trophies for many years, but I see the logic in the fact that every season they are getting better and if this season they take the title, then in my opinion it will be mega logical and consistent. If we talk about losers, then Liverpool have good experience in this - they have lost the title “at the finish line” many times. Overall, I trust the bookmakers here and I think Arsenal's title is more likely than Liverpool's.

By the way, it is no longer possible to bet on the Girona title with good odds - after they beat Barcelona, the bookmakers sharply changed their opinion and now the quote is 5.88 (and before the game it was 20+ lol).

Yes, this is a wonderful experiment, but now the situation has become sharply opposite: a crowd of lagging behind easily makes all-in bets to catch up with the leaders (who seem to be playing reliably), but since there are many lagging behind (and their total chances are high), this provokes the leaders too take more risks. In general, we'll see how it all ends, but I can assume that the volatility here will be too great to talk about a serious competition.
We need to come up with something in between. For example, so that the one who goes against the opinion of 90% of the participants receives more points (we need to come up with some kind of proportion for different ratios). It's too unfair when 15 people get 3 points for an accurate score of 2-1, and someone gets 3 points for a score of 4-0.
I understand that this is all difficult to implement (especially manual counting - this should be avoided), I’m just speculating.

Yeah, that was an unexpected outcome -- but I guess it's even better that now people are forced to risk, while at the same time, leaders are enticed to keep up, but I suspect the "slow and steady" will have a few winners come the end.

It gets even better once game selections dry up too!

I definitely like that concept of rarity bonus, weighted points for unpopular picks. It's all possible with formula but just the amount of work -- and requiring more careful submissions from 50+ people, that extra effort is nice but few estimate how much work it requires. Also, the issue of objectivity, might need organiser to NOT participate.

The effort required to conduct an “ideal” (and even ordinary) competition is truly enormous, so I specifically highlighted this point. But technical implementation is one thing (I still believe that everything should be automated in order to avoid subjective issues and be humane towards the organizers), but the format of the competition itself is another. It would be interesting to first come up with an “ideal” format, then you could think about how to implement it technically. I hope other participants will also suggest some ideas for improving the polls.
1271  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: 🚫Запрет миксеров на форуме Bitcointalk c 1 января 2024 on: December 12, 2023, 09:25:02 AM
Но казино в отличии от миксеров прозрачный и более легальный бизнес. Были ли на форуме случаи, когда казино уходили в закат со средствами пользователей? Часто ли вообще такое происходит? Я не видел статистики, но по моему биржи чаще более проблемные чем казино.~

Несмотря на то что у вас подпись казино вы страшно далеки от темы  Wink
Казино/буки это как раз сфера перманентного кидалова. Если отбросить топов (которые +- стабильны), то вся эта сфера состоит из проектов которые появляются -> раскручиваются -> скамятся тем или иным способом (надо заметить не всегда по своей вине, но конечному пользователю от этого не легче). Как ниже уже написали некоторые даже в закат не уходят, а продолжают скамить (пока приток средств превышает рекламу на маркетинг нафига закрываться). Самый яркий пример 1хbit который на этом форуме рекламировался.

Мне кажется, что использовать казино как бы вместо миксеров это такая себе затея. Там ведь везде требования в ToS пишут по отыгрышу в размере какой-то части депозита. Ну и тут же встает вопросик с проигрышем ваших денег в каких то игрушках. Это уж как повезет, а обычно как раз не везет.   Smiley
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Это не вопрос везения, уметь надо. В теннисе ставите на победу одного теннисиста в казино А, а в казино Б ставите на победу его оппонента (с учетом пропорций коэффициентов). В итоге на выходе у вас "честные" деньги. И кстати если делать грамотно, то можно даже маржу бука отыграть. Можно аналогично ставить на красное/черное (с зеро или без) в лайв рулетках.

Я уверен что с руководством форума работают агенты и там скорее всего ~

Вот за что я люблю конспирологию, так это за возможность посмеяться. Конечно, "с руководством форума работают агенты", да что там, весь персонал форума агенты ЦРУ Smiley

Да, да посмеяться с кого-то всегда не грех. Над теми кто думает что "да ну этого не может быть" тоже. Ибо жизнь у нас одна и ей надо дорожить (быть осторожным).

1272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A hero or a fool? on: December 11, 2023, 03:29:07 PM
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I've heard of similar bans (where you can voluntarily ban yourself from local casinos). In my opinion, this is imbecility and shifting responsibility for oneself onto others. I wouldn’t want to do business and also keep track of the “names” of visitors - who fucking came to me on their own, but before that they banned themselves from me. What kind of nonsense is this and why should I do this and if I suddenly provide him with services, be responsible for it? If he does not control himself, then let him go to a psychiatric hospital and be treated.

Regarding this incident, what year was it? I can assume that this is definitely the case in this century (these stupid self-bans are a modern invention), so I’m not sure of the effectiveness of such actions - the guy hasn’t heard of the Internet and online gambling? If his addiction is really that strong, then he would definitely find a way to play online, besides, poker can be found everywhere on the Internet - even on YouTube there are thousands of hours of videos about poker tournaments and the like.

In general, this story does not look believable, but if we assume that it is true and this highly addicted gambler was able to end his addiction, then he did well.
But because of such idiots, life becomes harder for normal people - if there are lists of “self-banned”, then the casino must monitor them in order to prevent them from playing, and this leads to the need for a total KYC and other unpleasant things like taxes.
1273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one you are good at? on: December 11, 2023, 02:40:35 PM
Hello! I'd like to pose a question to my fellow gamblers here. Since the topic of sports betting has been gaining attention recently, allow me to ask:

So, the question is... Which are you better at: selecting the right bet or managing your bankroll?

And, how has it been going so far? Are you profitable or not, and why?

Hmm... I think bankroll management is a very simple thing that anyone can master either by simply accepting certain algorithms "on faith" or by watching a couple of videos on YouTube (if reading articles is too tiring).
So I would say that I'm better at the first thing. I don't have full statistics of all my bets, but I think I often find "skewed" bets where the bookmakers got it wrong and where there is more value than most average bettors.
Naturally, this doesn’t help to be in the black (you have to be honest and admit that distance and margin win over absolutely everyone), but at least I often win in polls and if we talk about the implementation of free bets, then I’m definitely in the black (I definitely won more than if I just sum up all free bets). Quite funny, but with cash bets the situation is worse because it is psychologically more difficult to be bold when making a bet when you bet your own money.
1274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 11, 2023, 02:29:27 PM
Just in case anyone wants to know how to be 100% accurate:



 Grin
The overall odds were, of course, relatively large, but if you look at the individual outcomes, almost all of them were “reliable.” I had my doubts about Newcastle and took the double chance - how could I have expected them to lose 3-0? Other outcomes are also far from obvious. I think that if I bet on opposite outcomes, the odds would be more than 100 for sure.
I hope with this bet I have exhausted my limit of bad luck and the subsequent ones will finally work (there have already been several bets with large odds like 35 where literally one outcome separated me from victory).

Meanwhile, bookmakers have updated their title odds and City's odds have dropped dramatically:

Manchester City 1.85

Arsenal 3.92

Liverpool 4.41

Aston Villa 16.66

Now everything looks fair, much more adequate than a week earlier when City’s odds were 1.25, and even a little earlier 1.1 (by the way, isn’t this a record-breaking drop in outrights?).
1275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: December 11, 2023, 10:57:17 AM
looking at Newcastle questions in another promo make me realize that Newcastle has scored goals only against PSG in this season CL group
two times against Dortmund, and once against Milan and they can't score
will this repeat on Wednesday, fully interesting last round there, PSG is probably want to see Milan on top there, since that is opening them to pass with a draw against Dortmund, if Newcastle wins, they will need to win as well

and IMO, Milan is closer to win than Newcastle there

As always, I’d rather believe that Newcastle’s streak will end than continue, it’s unlikely they’ve forgotten how to score goals  Cheesy

Why do you consider Milan to be the favorite in the upcoming game? Newcastle have terrible results, but Milan are no better. If we take the last 10 games in all competitions, Milan have 3 wins, 2 draws and 5 losses, and Newcastle have 4 wins, 2 draws and 4 losses. Almost equal results but Newcastle plays at home. Bookmakers have Newcastle as big favourites:

1.79 - 3.92 - 3.92

It turns out to be a rather piquant situation that forces PSG to play strictly to win in Dortmund. But Dortmund hardly wants to take second place in the group and get a top opponent in the 1/8, so the game will be serious.

I don’t know how this will end, but for some reason I want to make a multi-bet on the fact that both games will end in a draw. I think the final odds of 15.75 look like super value.
1276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 11, 2023, 10:21:25 AM
Manchester United is a popular club in the Premier League but their performance is not satisfying the fans at all. Manchester United failed in either the Champions League or the English Premier League. I don't see any possibility of Manchester United that this team can do well in Champions League or Premier League.~

What an interesting coincidence: bookmakers estimate the probability of United qualifying from the group and the probability of United finishing in the top 4 in the Premier League almost the same - the odds are 8. This is approximately 12%, yes, it is not 0% and there are theoretical chances, but it seems to me that it is already possible to “reliably” say that United failed the season in the two most important competitions.
There is a game with Bayern ahead and, firstly, United is clearly not one to count on winning, and secondly, even if United wins, they will have to hope for a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray game. Maybe ardent fans believe in such outcomes, but not me.
In the Premier League, the next game is against Liverpool away - it is also difficult to imagine that Liverpool, having smelled the title, will not win at home.
My prediction is that after these two games (If they are unsuccessful for United) Ten Hag will be sacked.
1277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Owners of betting companies bet? on: December 11, 2023, 10:11:01 AM
If the owner somehow "fixes" the game in his favor, it will be obvious fraud since it will be at the expense of other players. I don’t think that an adequate owner would do this since it could completely destroy his business. Plus, I don’t think that casino workers are so stupid that they would even try to do this at the owner’s request. This is illegal and if they do this they may be prosecuted.

I won't even know how a casino owner could fix a sport event in order for them to get all the money, by the way, because the results of those sports matches and events are pretty much wideky known and cannot be messed with. ~

There is no need to correct anything in the sporting event itself, it is enough to “work” with the odds. For example, with live betting, allow the owner to place bets a couple of seconds faster than the quotes for everyone else are updated. For example, in tennis, this will give you a huge advantage, since the quotes there change significantly after each serve you win. Thus, the one who may be a little faster than the rest will hedge against them and receive a guaranteed profit. I think you can come up with a lot of tricks and secret passages in this area.
But as I wrote above, this is an absolutely pointless idea, since even if you win a little, you risk that your entire business will be destroyed if other people find out about it. And they will find out 100% because to implement such tricks you will have to involve the technical specialists of your casino in this matter, and as the proverb says, “if more than two people know about something, then everyone knows about it.”
1278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 11, 2023, 10:03:14 AM
Manchester United are looking for their striker options in the market. Openda and Guirassy are the most popular names being called with the Red Devils these days. Each one of them would cost them quite a high amount of money for sure. Because both of them are valuable players already due to their impressive performances.

Their teams wouldn't like to let any of them go that easy. Their demand for a transfer fee would be solid. Manchester United are still a rich team of course. If they really feel like they need to sign a striker then they would be ready to spend whatever amount is needed.

This is the first such bright season for Gyurassi in his entire career, and given the fact that he is already 27, his contract is very different from the contracts of young or already established stars. Guirassi's compensation for premature termination of the contract is worth a ridiculous 17.5 million euros (and this termination of the contract can be activated as early as this winter). This is insignificant money for any top/near top club. The question is that if there is demand for this forward from other clubs, he will choose the club with the most favorable conditions (signing bonus + salary), so the final price can turn out to be really high.
But buying him expensive is a huge risk - just look at his stats over the years, he are pretty average (if you go by the numbers). Maybe this season many different factors have come together so that he scores a lot, but there is no guarantee that if he moves to United he will continue to do so. Even Rashford, who scored a lot last season, now barely scores at all, or Hoylund, who doesn’t seem to have scored a single goal in 12 games.
1279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 11, 2023, 09:22:22 AM
Amazing performance from girona but not for barcelona. People were expecting girona to win the game and they were right about the prediction. Barcelona was unable in playing equal against girona which was making it lose three points.
Glad to see that if real madrid and girona becomes even far away from barcelona. The competition for la liga this season is about real madrid vs girona. Madrid is the strongest club caused by it was never beaten by the big clubs in la liga.
~

In general, before the game, the odds for Barcelona’s victory were around 1.6 and for Girona’s victory 3++. Bookmakers always take cash flow into account, so it's safe to say that people generally expected Barcelona to win.
As for Real, they beat Girona 3-0, Barcelona 2-1 (both away games), but lost to Atletico. Therefore, Real's results are not as ideal as i would like.
As for the fact that now the fight for the title will be between Renal and Girona, you are greatly exaggerating - before this game, Girona’s chances of winning the title were about 20 (that’s literally 5%). Let’s say now they grow to 15 (6.6%) - this is still very little. Real's chances were 1.5 and now they will increase a little more (since the gap over Barcelona has grown). The only interesting point for me is whether Atlético will be able to surpass Barcelona in the eyes of bookmakers? In my opinion, this would be natural - Barcelona is weak, Atletico has a game in hand and a potential +3 point advantage over Barcelona.
If we talk objectively without taking into account the size of the “brand,” then now the contenders for the title are in this order: Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, Girona.
1280  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: 🚫Запрет миксеров на форуме Bitcointalk c 1 января 2024 on: December 11, 2023, 08:45:53 AM
Складывается впечатление, что обвинять Lazarus во всех грехах стало модно, достаточно упомянуть это имя и ни у кого не больше не возникает вопросов о блокировке того или иного ресурса. По сути это стали использовать как оправдание блокировки практически всего, связанного с криптовалютами и взломами

Ну так проторенная дорожка. Я помню как в рфии (и вообще в мире) как раз под предлогом защиты детей от педофилов урезали свободу в интернете. Прекрасно прокатило.
При этом Эпштейн, со своим чудным островом, будучи в специальной камере, предназначенной для предотвращения самоубийства заключенного, как раз самоубийством жизнь и закончил  Grin Да и вообще его самого и его помощницу судили (это стало мемом) за чайлдтраффикинг ... никому  Grin Ну то есть они поставляли детей неким абстрактным педофилам  Roll Eyes

Но если учесть, что утекшие суммы довольно крупные и они потребуют огромного количества времени для отмывания, то рано или поздно эти транзакции коснуться большиство миксеров и все они будут заблокированы. Не удивлюсь, что часть изъятых средств используется для дискредитации других миксеров и сервисов, ведь мы точно не можем определить, что такие-то адреса все еще принадлежат хакерам, а другие уже в руках спецслужб. Тут завязаны большие деньги и судьба крупных банкиров, а их защита конфиденциальности транзакций простых людей вообще не интересует.

Пффф... С миксерами вопрос решенный. Тренд трудно не заметить. Опять же лягушку варят медленно - сначала мол закрываем ужасные-ужасные-страшно-преступные миксеры -> сообщество схавало -> дальше закрываем все остальное.

И вот тут кстати казино неизбежно следующие. Если рассуждать чисто логически, то для северных корейцев, труд которых просто ничего не стоит, не составляет никакого труда посадить тысячу-другую челов для совершения микроставок и микротранзакций в казинохах (и не только там) чтобы отмывать любые суммы.
И кстати есть подозрение что в связи с жестким прессингом миксеров скоро будут появлятся новые казино (как появились новые миксеры после бана ЧМ), это будут казино созданные именно с целью отмывания -> потом их грохнут так как они управлялись ужасным Лазурусом, а потом и все остальные кзино либо в стойло поставят либо грохнут.

Скажу больше. Хакеры даже имеют право пользоваться долларом США и иным фиатом (!), при этом ни у кого не возникает вопросов по типу, а давайте запретим доллар? Точно так же хакеры могут дышать воздухом, например. А чтобы не раздавать право дышать воздухом лишь после предварительного КУСя? Иди докажи сначала, что ты не хакер, потом дадим тебе лицензию на право дышать воздухом сроком на 1 год.

Самое смешное в том что уже и в этом направлении работа идет - для промышленности это давно реалии (в Европе уже хз сколько торгуют квотами на выброс СО2) а для отдельных граждан уже вовсю тему с "углеродным следом" проталкивают. Не говоря уже о том что наличку постепенно выдавливают/запрещают.

Решили одним выстрелом убить сразу двух зайцев. Это вполне предсказуемо, т.к. бюджет имеет свойство лимитирования. Вот и придумывают такие "правила игры". Сколько денег и времени потребуется для того, чтобы найти каждого из участников этой преступной группы? ~

Вы вообще не понимаете ничего  Wink Если бы этой ужасной группировки не было, то ее бы создали сами "борцы" - они то борятся не против группировок, а для того чтобы людей в стойло поставить. Им эти группировки вреда никакого не наносят, а наоборот сплошной профит.
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