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1401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 04, 2023, 03:06:46 PM
But can't a difficult game happen right away in the 1/8? If I remember correctly the regulations, the second places in the groups will play knockout matches with the clubs that will take third place in the groups in the Champions League. These can be very strong clubs like PSG, Milan or Newcastle. And then the first places in the group stage of the Europa League will play with the winners of these games.
You remember correctly. Being second in the UEL means facing the third-place teams from the UCL. That's why first place is much more important in UEL than second place. There are very strong teams from UCL that will join the UEL and the championship chances of these teams are quite high. That's why UEL is getting more exciting at this stage.

You did not understand the idea that I am trying to convey: in the 1/8 finals of the Europa League, the first places in the groups will play against the winners of the pairs “second places in the Europa League versus third places in the Champions League.” Therefore, any team that takes first place in the group can ultimately meet with a very strong team from the Champions League - straight into the 1/8. The actual benefit of taking first place is that you don't have to play an extra two games to get to the 1/8 finals.
1402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 04, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
In my opinion, there are quite interesting quotes for the game Aston Villa - City:

4.21 - 4.12 - 1.72

Despite the fact that City are stricken with a drawn series and cannot win head-to-head matches against direct competitors, bookmakers rate them very highly. The difference between the teams is only 1 point. Should we expect City to "revert to the mean" and start winning, or will they finally lose? If they lose, a third loss in 15 games would be highly unusual. Therefore, I would rather bet on City drawing again (although I am biased as I rooting against them).
1403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
This is not the first match in which Dortmund has acted in this way against a strong opponent, they did something similar in the match against Newcastle. For Dortmund, an away draw is a completely acceptable result, but for Bayer it is a loss of very important points, now Bayern will almost certainly be able to take advantage of these and get ahead of them, although if they win they will be equal on points, but Bayern will have a better goal difference.

If we talk about the theoretical situation, Bayer still have an advantage - firstly, for Bayern to catch up with them, they still have to win the game in hand. Secondly, even if Bayern wins, the teams will have an equal number of points, but the remaining head-to-head game will be on Bayer's field where they can tip the scales in their favor. But these are theoretical considerations, it is clear that Bayern actually remains a very big favorite.
1404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 04, 2023, 12:54:02 PM
It ended 3-0, it's a pity. I hoped that Inter would not be so clearly in the lead. And yes, in Serie A they really are monsters - they have a goal difference of +26, no one can boast  even nearly of such efficiency in the game. It’s good that Juventus is not far behind and perhaps we will see some intrigue.
I’m glad that Roma returned to the top 4, even if their position there is very precarious, but after such a disgusting start, this is a great result.

Regarding Roma, I think they were about to lose the important two points in the game they had against Sassuolo but the Danish player of Roma, Rasmus Kristensen saved the team and made the game 2-1. While Sassuolo scored the first goal in this game, Dybala and Kristensen scored two goals for Roma to decrease the pressure on this team Mourinho

.

Such victories give confidence to the players. In the last 4 games Roma scored 10 points, a very good result. There will be a very difficult section of the championship ahead (Fiorentina - Bologna - Napoli - Juventus - Atalanta - Milan LOOOL) and now is the time to score points because later it will be much more difficult.
Surprisingly, this third season for Mourinho, although it started badly, is now becoming good. They have every chance to get into the top 4.
1405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 03, 2023, 09:56:55 PM
Thanks to this result, Man City dropped to third place in the standings with 30 points. Meanwhile, Tottenham is stuck in 5th place with 27 points.
So you happy that Manchester city dropped to 3rd position, seriously today's draw really affected Manchester city, they are currently at the 3rd position which am sure Guardiola won’t really like, but I don’t see anything bad in Manchester city dropping to 3rd position, just 14 matches have been played, and Arsenal which is in first position is ahead of Manchester City with just 3 points, Liverpool which is in 2nd position is just ahead of Manchester city with just 1 point, so the points which the 2 clubs are using to lead Manchester City is kind small, Manchester city can easily go back to their first position if their is any slight mistake, so the three clubs are still the one fighting for the league title this season, and I still have hope in Manchester City to win the league, even as they are currently in 3rd position.

City are the favorites, but it’s quite suspicious that in the games with Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham they only scored three points (and conceded 8 goals), don’t you think? I don't know what this means or if they're on a decline, but obviously they're not as dominant as they were last season. The upcoming game against strong Aston Villa should perhaps clarify something.
1406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 03, 2023, 09:50:17 PM
Damn i am surprised from teams Dortmund and also from Leverkusen in the end with kaming the final goal for the draw.
Sad to see that Dortmund is leading the whole game and in the end they just got 1 point out of it.
But i really thought that Leverkusen will win that match at home , i havnt seen the game but i will watch the review for sure.

Before the game, I wrote that I didn’t believe that Bayer’s winning streak would be that long, and that Dortmund would lose three games in a row, and that’s what happened, the forecast came true. Unfortunately, I predicted a victory for Dortmund, but the draw interrupted both of these series and most likely turned out only in favor of Bayern. But the whole fight is still ahead - in order for Bayern to equal Bayer, they need to win their game in reserve.
1407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 03, 2023, 09:42:32 PM
Inter is a brutal team and I think this is what makes them so strong and also reminds me of their times around 2010. They had a monstrous defense and they used their chances like no other team. It is tough because once the opponents get into a position to score but don't convert their chances, Inter will be there and knock them out with the next counter attack.

It ended 3-0, it's a pity. I hoped that Inter would not be so clearly in the lead. And yes, in Serie A they really are monsters - they have a goal difference of +26, no one can boast  even nearly of such efficiency in the game. It’s good that Juventus is not far behind and perhaps we will see some intrigue.
I’m glad that Roma returned to the top 4, even if their position there is very precarious, but after such a disgusting start, this is a great result.
1408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: December 03, 2023, 09:29:32 PM
So, I think we can sum up the intermediate results: City had three serious games in a row (Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham) and scored only 3 points in these games. I think that this result is very far from the champion's. Aston Villa are ahead (which are only one point behind City) and if we follow the logic of events we should see a draw again  Roll Eyes
At the same time, bookmakers estimate the probability of City's title to be approximately 1.1, which seems crazy to me. Let's see how they adjust their assessment after this round.
1409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 03, 2023, 05:18:00 PM
In this group phase ofcourse, Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen do not get any big obstacles to become the winner of the group even though indeed, Liverpool has also received 1 defeat but still, Liverpool will still be the winner in the group. Because ya, it seems that the difficult match for them will probably occur in the semifinals later, because of course in that phase they will play against a team that is even better than the previous matches. But indeed, because Liverpool is a team with above-average quality, it is not surprising that Liverpool is highly favored to win the Europa League trophy this season.

But can't a difficult game happen right away in the 1/8? If I remember correctly the regulations, the second places in the groups will play knockout matches with the clubs that will take third place in the groups in the Champions League. These can be very strong clubs like PSG, Milan or Newcastle. And then the first places in the group stage of the Europa League will play with the winners of these games.
1410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 03, 2023, 04:53:49 PM
In today's match, Sevilla must also be able to perform better against Villarreal so that Sevilla can continue to stay away from the worse zones. Because Villarreal is also not a very weak team this season, Sevilla must be quite careful in playing today because Villarreal will also be aiming for full points in today's match so as not to get too close to the relegation zone. So I think the match for these two teams will probably be a little tougher because they are both in a position that is not too far apart with a bad zone.

Bookmakers assess the chances of teams in this way:

1.98 - 3.72 - 3.38

I think Villarreal is underrated. Let’s say the teams have approximately the same number of points and Villarreal has more losses than Sevilla (7 versus 5), but Sevilla has only 2 wins while Villarreal has 4. If the game goes according to a scenario favorable for Villarreal (for example, they can score a goal first) then I think Sevilla will have a maximum chance of a draw. Therefore, if I were to bet in this game, I would bet on Villarreal.
1411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 03, 2023, 04:07:19 PM
It seems quite appropriate now to say whether Nice have started to falter towards the middle of this season.
After a very good start to the season at the moment Nice's changes are quite pronounced in terms of performance. Their goal productivity is slowly disappearing and their attacking line is starting to show cracks.
Yesterday's match also showed how their condition has changed. They are still very good in terms of domination, it's just that their finishing is still very lacking and losing to Nantes yesterday makes me feel they will experience a change in situation now if they cannot overcome their current consistency.

Nice are still good and after this round they are guaranteed to retain second position. The problem is that in Ligue 1 there is PSG and, as always, they came out on top. It is quite remarkable that just recently they were behind, and now their advantage is 4 points, which allows them to even lose and still remain in the lead. I don’t see any point in assessing any Ligue 1 club relative to PSG - they’re on a different level. At their level, Nice shows excellent results, they have only one defeat and have the best defense in the league - only 5 goals conceded.
1412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 03, 2023, 10:45:54 AM
Isn't the release clause fixed under the terms of the contract? The question is which club the forward will choose. But in general, I don’t even know how to feel about him - throughout his entire career (and he’s not young anymore - 27 years old) he played averagely (sometimes weakly) and here he’s showing such a great season. Where is the guarantee that he will be able to repeat the next season in a new club with approximately the same efficiency?

There's no guarantee, those clubs are pure gambling toward guirassy. There's no guarantee if guirassy will perform better than when he was playing at his domestic league. We have so many examples of strikers which were playing perfectly on their old league but they were struggling once they came to the EPL. I can even named some of them like sancho? He was coming from dortmund and at that time he was one of best striker in the bundesliga and what's happening with him now? He was nothing.
MU was kicking him out and that's it. Guirassy shall not be dumb enough to bet on it. Even though newcastle and mu are willing to recruit him and it will be so bad if guirassy will have the same fate as sancho.
EPL club was always gambling to bring a striker from the different club to the EPL. What about hojlund? 10 matches and 0 goal. It's proven that EPL somtimes made the striker feel so struggle with it.

In the case of Guirassi, gambling is justified since its purchase by modern standards will be almost free. On his part, the transfer would also be the right decision, since he will obviously sign a contract with a higher salary, plus he will get to show himself in the Premier League in a good club and even play in the Champions League.
As for the success of football players at United, this is a swamp that, with the arrival of Ten Hag, was able to swallow even Casemiro, who was one of the best defensive defenders in the world, if I were Gyurassi, I wouldn't risk it with United  Grin
1413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 03, 2023, 10:35:30 AM
However, this is the last chance for Porto and Shakhtar to qualify for the last 16 and indeed only one of them was chosen to accompany Barcelona. It will certainly not be easy for Shakhtar to fight for opportunities in the away match to Porto headquarters and the fans will definitely put all the pressure on Shakhtar's players so that they feel frustrated.

Betting on Porto makes the most sense but I wouldn't do that because Shakhtar also have the same chance of winning. So if we place a bet on this match, of course the safe and easy option is BTTS (Yes) or the result over 2.5 because there will definitely be lots of goals scored. At least there will be more than 3 goals and a narrow win like 2-3 or 3-2 for one of the teams is also still a possibility.

As I understand it, in order for Shakhtar to qualify, they need to win with a goal difference of at least +3. This seems extremely unlikely, which is why the chance of them qualifying is estimated at 5.88.
Hmm... although Shakhtar's chances of winning with a handicap of -2 goals are estimated at 40. Why is there such a difference - it shouldn’t exist because these are equivalent events?  Huh
1414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 03, 2023, 10:14:14 AM
Another loss for Manchester United, this is their sixth loss of the season in the EPL in just 14 games, the pressure is mounting on Erik Ten Hag, they are almost certainly out of the CL and their poor form in the EPL continues, Manchester United fans cannot get any respite right now as things go from bad to worse for their club. I am pretty sure the hierarchy would make that tough decision sooner or later, Erik has got to go, and they know it, but they are trying to buy him sometime, the club is tired of the instability with managers, too many have come and gone in recent years, but i am sure they have to do what they have to do.

It's funny that despite 6 defeats, United had zero draws and, accordingly, United were able (albeit sometimes painfully) to win 8 games. This, unfortunately, was detrimental for United because if Ten Hag had been fired earlier, maybe United would have at least been able to get into the 1/8 of the Champions League and have a little more points in the Premier League.
Now, despite the fact that United are in 7th place (by the end of the day they could drop to 8th), their entire “game” can be seen in the goal statistics: 16 scored and 17 conceded. A shameful indicator.
1415  Other / Meta / Re: Mixers to be banned on: December 03, 2023, 09:27:45 AM
C'mon guys. Why the grim faces? It is not the end of the world. There is a world outside this forum too.

You can still flip burgers. It is not that bad.



Cheer up  Tongue

If the cryptans are so stupid that they don’t see the difference between “catch/punish criminals” and “deprive all people of their rights to avoid potential crimes,” then this is a completely fair outcome.
And by the way, the money received for flipping hamburgers can only be spent with permission from officials, so as not to increase the carbon footprint or anything else. But this is not slavery, this is all for your good!  Grin
1416  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: 🚫Запрет миксеров на форуме Bitcointalk c 1 января 2024 on: December 03, 2023, 09:20:46 AM
~Миксеры не имеют никакого отношения к изначальной задумке форума, поэтому их запрет скажется лишь на участниках подписных кампаний.~

М шта?
Этот форум задумывался как форум со свободой слова вплоть до того что "скамы не модерируются", то есть вас тут могут наебать и ободрать как липку, но как бы это побочные эффекты которые не настолько важны как свобода слова. А теперь получается что наебать вас все еще могут, зато миксеры вы обсуждать не можете под угрозой бана. Ну прям никакого отступления от "первоначальной задумки форума".

Разве борьба за приватность и нецензурируемость это не то ради чего криптаны всё дело затевали?
Миксеры это то что реализует необходимую для крипты функцию, которую козлы разрабы битка даже пытались непосредственно в битке реализовать в виде stealth транзакций до того как в овощей полных превратились.

И да, пора всем криптанам перестать страдать шизофренией и пытаться усидеть на двух стульях жить в выдуманном мире: нецензурируемый/приватный инструмент обладает своими свойствами независимо от того кто им пользуется честный человек или педофил. Так же как свобода передвижения и прочее. Если вы хотите отказаться от своих свобод чтобы "заодно" и преступники пострадали, то просто возвращайтесь в фиатный концлагерь, где даже налички скоро не будет а вашими собственными деньгами вы будете пользоваться по разрешению вашего хозяина чиновника (с учетом углеродного следа и прочих выдумок).
1417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 02, 2023, 09:48:54 PM
Temporary position, Newcastle is leading with a 1 - 0 win over Man United. Yeah, the match was quite tough even though Newcastle seemed to dominate the match. On the other hand, Man United looked quite confused by the various attacks made by Newcastle. If conditions continue like this, Newcastle will most likely win.

Ten Hag, as always, was late (although even on time he makes strange decisions, or vice versa early... in short, he made a mistake again) with the substitutions. The wooden Rashford and Martial should have been changed at half-time. And another double substitution 10 minutes before the end of normal time. I would rather believe that Newcastle will score than that United will come back.
1418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 02, 2023, 09:42:38 PM
Al-Hilal definitely showed the world that they are the far superior team and they won the title with this game. I know that people will say the season is not over yet and Al-Nassr still has a mathematical chance to win it and all that, but I honestly believe that with this game I believe that the game is over and the season is over as well.

They will not end up losing to anyone that commonly, they will mostly get wins, and I doubt they would even lose 7 points until the season as well, they may not get like 2 losses and a draw up until the end of the season from here on out. That is important of course, and they may just guaranteed their title for the season, and even if they do lose some, Al-Nassr will not end with 100% win rate.

Yes, I also think the season is over. Al-Hilal is too strong, I haven't checked the bookmakers' odds but I think after this round they estimate Al-Hilal's odds for the title to be about 1.1. It is very sad that global changes are taking place in the league, but the dominance of one club does not change. Let's hope that at least in the Champions League Al-Nasr will be able to do something against their main opponent.
1419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 02, 2023, 09:37:44 PM
This has got to be very inaccurate if you ask me. Heo do you want to measure the both of them then?! Inter Milan got to the Champions League finals and lost with a narrow win from City. Arsenal bottled the chances they had on winning the Premier League. We all know how the Champions League is way bigger than the Premier League. You shouldn't have compared the both of them in the first place.
~

A dubious statement (and this is not a praise of the Premier League, although it is the strongest league in the world, but only a statement of the differences between round-robin tournaments and tournaments with playoffs). For example, Inter last season, with some luck, could have beaten City in the final. If we take into account their easiest path to the final, it would not be a title in 7 games, but, say, a title in 3 games. There is too much randomness in the Champions League compared to round-robin tournaments where the strongest clubs are determined much more accurately.
1420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 02, 2023, 09:29:44 PM
Manchester United and Newcastle both have been reported to be targeting to sign Guirassy from Stuttgart. The reported fee thought by these teams for him is 15 million pounds. This would be a ridiculous amount to be offered for him honestly. Because there is no way they can sign him for such a small amount.

Stuttgart wouldn't like to let Guirassy go that easy. His market value is 40 million euros. He would surely like to play for bigger teams but this is just a very optimistic offer for him. Both of these teams are rich in the end so they should be increasing their offer way more.

Isn't the release clause fixed under the terms of the contract? The question is which club the forward will choose. But in general, I don’t even know how to feel about him - throughout his entire career (and he’s not young anymore - 27 years old) he played averagely (sometimes weakly) and here he’s showing such a great season. Where is the guarantee that he will be able to repeat the next season in a new club with approximately the same efficiency?
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