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1281  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: 🚫Запрет миксеров на форуме Bitcointalk c 1 января 2024 on: December 11, 2023, 08:45:53 AM
Складывается впечатление, что обвинять Lazarus во всех грехах стало модно, достаточно упомянуть это имя и ни у кого не больше не возникает вопросов о блокировке того или иного ресурса. По сути это стали использовать как оправдание блокировки практически всего, связанного с криптовалютами и взломами

Ну так проторенная дорожка. Я помню как в рфии (и вообще в мире) как раз под предлогом защиты детей от педофилов урезали свободу в интернете. Прекрасно прокатило.
При этом Эпштейн, со своим чудным островом, будучи в специальной камере, предназначенной для предотвращения самоубийства заключенного, как раз самоубийством жизнь и закончил  Grin Да и вообще его самого и его помощницу судили (это стало мемом) за чайлдтраффикинг ... никому  Grin Ну то есть они поставляли детей неким абстрактным педофилам  Roll Eyes

Но если учесть, что утекшие суммы довольно крупные и они потребуют огромного количества времени для отмывания, то рано или поздно эти транзакции коснуться большиство миксеров и все они будут заблокированы. Не удивлюсь, что часть изъятых средств используется для дискредитации других миксеров и сервисов, ведь мы точно не можем определить, что такие-то адреса все еще принадлежат хакерам, а другие уже в руках спецслужб. Тут завязаны большие деньги и судьба крупных банкиров, а их защита конфиденциальности транзакций простых людей вообще не интересует.

Пффф... С миксерами вопрос решенный. Тренд трудно не заметить. Опять же лягушку варят медленно - сначала мол закрываем ужасные-ужасные-страшно-преступные миксеры -> сообщество схавало -> дальше закрываем все остальное.

И вот тут кстати казино неизбежно следующие. Если рассуждать чисто логически, то для северных корейцев, труд которых просто ничего не стоит, не составляет никакого труда посадить тысячу-другую челов для совершения микроставок и микротранзакций в казинохах (и не только там) чтобы отмывать любые суммы.
И кстати есть подозрение что в связи с жестким прессингом миксеров скоро будут появлятся новые казино (как появились новые миксеры после бана ЧМ), это будут казино созданные именно с целью отмывания -> потом их грохнут так как они управлялись ужасным Лазурусом, а потом и все остальные кзино либо в стойло поставят либо грохнут.

Скажу больше. Хакеры даже имеют право пользоваться долларом США и иным фиатом (!), при этом ни у кого не возникает вопросов по типу, а давайте запретим доллар? Точно так же хакеры могут дышать воздухом, например. А чтобы не раздавать право дышать воздухом лишь после предварительного КУСя? Иди докажи сначала, что ты не хакер, потом дадим тебе лицензию на право дышать воздухом сроком на 1 год.

Самое смешное в том что уже и в этом направлении работа идет - для промышленности это давно реалии (в Европе уже хз сколько торгуют квотами на выброс СО2) а для отдельных граждан уже вовсю тему с "углеродным следом" проталкивают. Не говоря уже о том что наличку постепенно выдавливают/запрещают.

Решили одним выстрелом убить сразу двух зайцев. Это вполне предсказуемо, т.к. бюджет имеет свойство лимитирования. Вот и придумывают такие "правила игры". Сколько денег и времени потребуется для того, чтобы найти каждого из участников этой преступной группы? ~

Вы вообще не понимаете ничего  Wink Если бы этой ужасной группировки не было, то ее бы создали сами "борцы" - они то борятся не против группировок, а для того чтобы людей в стойло поставить. Им эти группировки вреда никакого не наносят, а наоборот сплошной профит.
1282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 10, 2023, 10:08:04 PM
The game is proceeding as follows from the statistics of the teams (especially Girona) - BTTS, total 2.5 over. I thought that maybe Barcelona would dry out the game, but I was wrong. 60th minute, the score is 2-1 in favor of Girona but the bookmakers give quite generous odds that Girona will win - 2.12. I won't take any risks, but Girona seems underrated.

It is the goalkeeper of Girona who is keeping them in the game as he has made some wonderful saves and  you can also check this in the stats of the game,there are 8 goalkeeper saves from Girona.Barcelona of course is trying very hard and if they at least manage to draw this game they will keep the league open even more,one win from Girona against Barcelona in Barcelona home will make the league a bit more interesting but also Girona the bigger favorite,Real Madrid is the only team to have stopped them so far and it looks like they are going to be the strongest contender for the title this year in La Liga.

In addition to the goalkeeper, Lewandowski is also to blame - he continues to squander scoring chances.
One way or another, the final score is 2-4 (and by the way, after 1-3, Girona missed a bunch of scoring chances, so this is a completely fair victory) and Barcelona is already 5 points behind Real. I don’t know if it’s worth saying that Girona is seriously laying claim to the title. Let's see the quotes after the end of the round.
1283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 10, 2023, 10:01:33 PM
When it comes to goal scoring, Cristiano Ronaldo is in another level he's highly decorated and positions well to deliver a good finishing, he's the best thing Al-Nassr did for their club and in years to come even after he's left the team, he'll still be remembered for his good efforts in trying to get them where they're currently, I think none of his peers  could be compared to him cause about 90% of them can't do what he's doing currently and alot has even retired.

 If Ronaldo could be able to get a total number of 49 goals for Al-Nassr currently it means that there's a possibility of him making it 60 or 70 before the league ends and in few years from, he would be able to break the All-time record of Al-Nassr player which is up to a 100 plus goal, Cristiano Ronaldo is really a G.O.A.T when it comes to goal scoring.

Considering the kind of players the top clubs in Saudi Arabia receive, all previous records will soon be broken. This is fine. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Ronaldo is now the leader in the goalscoring race with 16 goals, and in my opinion this is a rather modest figure. If we assume that the performance in Saudi Arabia should be at the level of La Liga (I think the difference between the top teams and the bottom of the standings is something like this) then the numbers for the season should be 30+ and sometimes above 40. I think in the coming years new strikers will raise this the bar to such values.
1284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey on: December 10, 2023, 09:33:13 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

Taking into account the fact that gambling addiction is not chemical (as is the case with some drugs) but purely psychological, it is obvious that it is necessary to get rid of it immediately. What's the point of prolonging the process? Another thing is that for an inveterate gambler it is very difficult to dramatically change his lifestyle, but this can be done by finding another hobby that will completely absorb him, we can say that this is something like replacement therapy.
1285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 10, 2023, 09:25:16 PM
Barcelona dominated the first 25minutes of the game and got a goal making them lead in the first half but then it wasn't long Girona got an equalizer, I observed that the defense line of Barcelona tonight seem like it's a bit porus and gironas attackers are not finding it difficult penetrating the defense line so far, as they have been able to secure two goals already.

Giron a is already leading by two goal and I must say I'm enjoying the game as there's a conventional shift in balance as the game is at some point concentrated at Gironas post and some other time Barcelona, the pressure aswell as be occasionally shifted to both sides, I'm hoping Barcelona will be able to get an equalizer as Joao Felix and lewandoski have been really creative with their attacks at the front line.for Barcelona.

The game is proceeding as follows from the statistics of the teams (especially Girona) - BTTS, total 2.5 over. I thought that maybe Barcelona would dry out the game, but I was wrong. 60th minute, the score is 2-1 in favor of Girona but the bookmakers give quite generous odds that Girona will win - 2.12. I won't take any risks, but Girona seems underrated.
1286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 10, 2023, 09:21:04 PM
Atletico Madrid spent more than 126 million euro for signing Joao Felix from Benfica on 2019 and extend contract until 2026, left two years later and I doubt Barcelona easily make permanent transfer regarding Atletico Madrid won't let Joao Felix under 100 million euro. Have quit well performance with Barcelona will make Joao Felix market values up again and not easy for signing him since Barcelona still have financial problem. Need much money for Barcelona if want make both players who have good performance between Joao Felix and Joao Cancelo to be permanently at least 150 million euro needed for both players.

There are not any valuable for Barcelona player for selling and can raise above 150 million euro, rumored with lewandowski sell to Saudi clubs seems not enough and I think his values right now under 30 million euro.

Yes, after leaving Bayern, Lewandowski’s value began to fall too quickly, if we take into account his “sports” value, then he may be worth even less than 30 million (primarily because he has a large salary and when you buy him you still have to bear serious costs later). For the Saudis, he may be interesting as a brand, but given the fact that they have already lured many star players and will soon lure more (for example, Salah), they will not overpay for Lewandowski.
1287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Owners of betting companies bet? on: December 10, 2023, 05:59:21 PM
I don't see anything ethically wrong with a casino owner,  gambling on their own platform but what matters must at some point is wether or not he will be able to control or influence the result in his own favour most especially in the in house games where there is mechanism of house edge and if such be what becomes of the other players in his casino.

I think unless in sport betting that is the only game where there will be a probably fairness if you as a gambler is up against the owner, I am not saying it a sure thing for such abuse pf the platform to happen but let think of it in that direction also.

If the owner somehow "fixes" the game in his favor, it will be obvious fraud since it will be at the expense of other players. I don’t think that an adequate owner would do this since it could completely destroy his business. Plus, I don’t think that casino workers are so stupid that they would even try to do this at the owner’s request. This is illegal and if they do this they may be prosecuted.
1288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 10, 2023, 05:53:20 PM
Bookmakers have nothing to do with it, you have to face the truth - Manchester United have really little chance to win this match. Although in recent EPL matches the team has been performing well, Ten Hag even won the coach of the month and Maguire the player of the month, it was hard to imagine such a thing, but they did it

Yes, super funny thing. Especially considering the fact that United were simply lucky with the calendar of games. And an even funnier thing will happen if after two subsequent games (with Bayern in the Champions League and with Liverpool in the Premier League) which United are likely to lose both, Ten Hag will be sacked. If this happens (two defeats or even a draw with Bayern which is equivalent to a defeat and a defeat against Liverpool) and Ten Hag is sacked, then I will only have one question - why so late? The season is already a complete failure.
1289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 10, 2023, 05:40:10 PM
Yes it's true. People’s behavior is based on experience, and when the gambling experience is positive from the very beginning, it is later very difficult to change your attitude towards it. I knew one gambler who played slots for the first time and won a car (several thousand dollars at that time). This played a very cruel joke on him. Then he lost this car and a lot of money trying to win again.
If his experience had not begun with such a pleasant event that he remembers for the rest of his life, then perhaps he would not have become addicted to gambling.
1290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 10, 2023, 05:34:25 PM
It's very ridiculous and seems very unfair to me to see a big Bundesliga club being beaten by a middle class club like Frankfurt with a very big score.
I watched the match and I didn't stop saying harsh words in front of the television It was very embarrassing for Bayern Munich to be beaten by Frankfurt. Meanwhile, in terms of performance, Bayern Munich had a strong performance but could lose in an away match against Frankfurt, which was very disappointing.
Maybe you wouldn't be too disappointed if score was only small, but the first defeat that Munich got was very big and very embarrassing and I'm sure a lot of gamblers lost their bets because this very bad performance and it looks like this is the surprise of the Bundesliga.

But wouldn't it be too dull if we always saw logical results? As for the bettors, I think that even a minimal defeat of Bayern would destroy their bets since there is no point in betting on Bayern with a double chance due to the fact that the odds in this case are negligible. But think about how much profit those who made a bet on Eintracht’s victory with a handicap of -2 goals received? They just got rich.
1291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 10, 2023, 05:29:44 PM
Actually, I don't like the final result of Betis vs Madrid. They were only able to go home with 1 point. This certainly makes Girona's points difference closer. If Girona wins, then it is certain that Madrid will drop to number 2. But Girona's opponent is Barcelona, it's not easy. Barcelona will also work hard for 3 points. This is to catch up with Girona's points distance.

I’m also disappointed with the result, but Betis is a great team - they have only 2 defeats all season and according to this indicator they are in 4th place right after the leading three. I think Barcelona will help Real Madrid today and will not let Girona overtake them  Grin
By the way, I wouldn’t be surprised if Barcelona and Girona play a draw - when one of the leaders loses points, it often turns out that the competitors also lose points, and today is just a convenient opportunity for this.
1292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling? on: December 10, 2023, 05:17:16 PM
I don't think anyone would want to hear a waiter in a restaurant say, "You should stop eating, you've already eaten enough" or in a pub, "Stop drinking, you've already had too much."  Grin

Yeah! Can you imagine this scenario unfolding at a restaurant? A waiter scrutinizes a female patron, discreetly scanning a lady's waistline.  He then proceeds to make an unsolicited remark about her figure and food choices.  Excuse me ma'am, perhaps you should refrain from ordering dessert, he comments snidely implying she should be more conscientious of her weight.

An uncomfortable situation, to say the least!  Grin

As for your second example, I've actually heard that line a bunch of times at the bar, especially from my better-looking partner. Wink

 Grin
The second phrase can be heard quite often from a bartender if you drink too much and either act “louder than average” or fall asleep at the bar. There is nothing aggressive or offensive here.
But if you compare it with the first message of the topic, this is a wrong analogy. A true analogy would be if the bartender immediately told everyone who entered the bar about the dangers of alcohol and advised them not to drink at all, haha.
1293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 10, 2023, 05:12:08 PM
To expect AS Roma to be able to compete for the title is funny I guess because after all, AS Roma is a top team in Serie A that always has obstacles to maintain its consistency . So ya, I think it is very inappropriate to expect AS Roma to be able to compete in the title race because after all, to maintain its position in the top four is also a heavy task for AS Roma. Therefore, I think nothing can be expected for AS Roma because AS Roma is still not strong enough to compete for the title. But indeed, this season looks like it will only be a competition between Inter and Juventus in the race for the Scudetto this season.

In Italy, no one can compete with the big four at all. Only occasionally does someone manage to enter the top 4, but these are rare occurrences. In fact, the top 4 are always held by Juventus, Inter, Milan and Napoli, and the title is held by the first three and very rarely Napoli. Despite the bad start, Roma was still able to beat everyone else (who can actually be beaten) plus Napoli. If they finish the season in four, it will be another successful season for Mourinho (which is very atypical because he seems to have a third season problem).
1294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 10, 2023, 05:06:22 PM
It was a game over for Chelsea today as Everton's Doucoure and Lewis Dobbin netted the goals that secured Everton a good win over Chelsea and 3 points ahead of their points. In just 20 minutes into the match, Cole Palmer had booked a yellow card while the rest of the team were not looking boosted with their Morales in the match. I expected some strong efforts from Chelsea but reverse was the case as Everton's win over them was another lose after their last match making it a two game losing streak for the Blues.

It looks like the game over is coming for Pochettino. For a while it seemed that things were looking up for Chelsea, but now after two defeats in a row they are tied for 11th-14th place with other (very weak) teams. I think that this is already the end even in terms of the fight for the Europa League or the Conference League. The teams ahead are too strong and the gap is already too big. I don't even know how Chelsea will plan the rest of the season - it looks like it's time for them to prepare for the next one  Grin
1295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 10, 2023, 04:57:34 PM
PSG, even in the event of a draw with Dortmund and a parallel victory for Newcastle, will be eliminated from the Champions League. The problem for PSG is that in this option the clubs will have 8 points each and head-to-head matches are clearly in favor of Newcastle (win and draw). Therefore, PSG has a really difficult task - to win against Dortmund away, the only thing that should please them is that Dortmund has already qualified.

I think PSG has all the possibilities to win the game and not to come here in Europa League but to continue in the Champions League.I saw them how they dominated the Newcastle game and they have no problems dominating against Dortmund also.In the remote case PSG comes to Europa League this would be a great improvement for the Europa League as it will add another team of the Champions League level that will come here to contend in this league.We are now in the last round of the Champions League so whoever team comes here it will only increase the performance of this competition.

But in the first game, when Newcastle did not have such problems with the lineup, it simply destroyed PSG - 4 : 1. And in the second game, where PSG had an advantage, the score was only 1 : 1. Therefore, I am sure that the game in Dortmund will be very difficult for PSG - after all, Dortmund is a team that can beat any other, even if before that it lost to an outsider.
1296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: December 10, 2023, 04:10:15 PM
I haven’t seen the game, but judging by the statistics, this is the case when you can’t do anything and your opponent has everything:

Shots - 14:17
Shots on target – 6:6
Corners – 1:9
Ball possession 38% - 62%

Do you agree that from these statistics it is impossible to see the score 5-1? Recently Aston Villa won against City and the score 1-0 was lucky for City as the opponent completely dominated.
Now I don't envy United, on which Bayern will take out all their anger.
Didn't followed game and when I saw poster with result on social media, I thought it's mistake and Bayern actually won 5:1. It seems that Bayern almost every season have to suffer at least one big defeat that doesn't makes sense. Good point about Bayern taking out their anger against MU, but MU should be angry after getting trashed by Bournemouth 0:3 at Old Trafford LOL Cheesy.
Leipzig just scored 2nd goal against Dortmund and leading 1:2 with 30 minutes remaining. Hummels got early red card, but somehow it didn't looked that Leipzig have more players on pitch. Though, now it will be very difficult for Dortmund to get positive result today.

 Grin Yes, this is the most logical assumption in such a situation.
By the way, this is already the second major defeat (and it has obvious significance, since if Bayer scores points today, the situation for Bayern will worsen) - in the Super Cup, Leipzig defeated them with a score of 3-0.
As for United, I don’t think anyone cares about their emotions, and to be honest, the team looks exhausted and waiting for a coach change. It is unlikely that they will be able to resist an irritated Bavaria.
1297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 09, 2023, 06:21:53 PM
Nice! It’s a pity that such a bold prediction gives only 1 point of advantage against those who bet on the favorite. Although I remember that the odds were close, most people saw Newcals as the winner no matter what.
For me, this is an unsuccessful round, so I won’t even look at the details, but I think that those who predicted Tottenham’s defeat are even fewer, although the result is classic (2-1) and it will be a full three points.

It's a frequent complaint of mine on Superbru. That the reward is so puny compared to the risk that it is very seldom wise to go against the grain. Over the seasons, I have slowly adjusted, no longer making bold predictions. I remember predicting 4-0 Liverpool beating United. We ended up winning 5-0. 1.5 points for that? Ridiculous.

My experiment in the UCL pool is an attempt to bring a bit more encouragement to back the unlikely result.

Anyway, early kickoff not good. Am out all day, will miss Liverpool...

Yes, this is a wonderful experiment, but now the situation has become sharply opposite: a crowd of lagging behind easily makes all-in bets to catch up with the leaders (who seem to be playing reliably), but since there are many lagging behind (and their total chances are high), this provokes the leaders too take more risks. In general, we'll see how it all ends, but I can assume that the volatility here will be too great to talk about a serious competition.
We need to come up with something in between. For example, so that the one who goes against the opinion of 90% of the participants receives more points (we need to come up with some kind of proportion for different ratios). It's too unfair when 15 people get 3 points for an accurate score of 2-1, and someone gets 3 points for a score of 4-0.
I understand that this is all difficult to implement (especially manual counting - this should be avoided), I’m just speculating.
1298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 09, 2023, 06:12:29 PM
By the way, PSG still has a good chance of getting into the Europa League - it will be difficult to win against Dortmund away, and Newcastle will most likely be able to beat Milan at home.

Newcastle still has the opportunity to qualify with Dortmund, but if PSG loses to Dortmund, the Dortmund and PSG match is a life and death match for PSG because they could have been eliminated from the Campion League if they suffered defeat to Dortmund, and Newcastle will go up to second place if Able to win over AC Milan, to be honest, Grub F is fairly Grub Hell where the strongest club from each league is in Grub F, so do not be surprised if Grub F is truly very difficult to predict who will qualify for the Grub phase or actually thrown into the league Europa ..

PSG, even in the event of a draw with Dortmund and a parallel victory for Newcastle, will be eliminated from the Champions League. The problem for PSG is that in this option the clubs will have 8 points each and head-to-head matches are clearly in favor of Newcastle (win and draw). Therefore, PSG has a really difficult task - to win against Dortmund away, the only thing that should please them is that Dortmund has already qualified.
1299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: December 09, 2023, 06:07:01 PM
Is anyone else following to Bayern Munich demolition at Eintracht Frankfurt, It's currently 5-1, I didn't not watch the match live but I'm finding it hard to believe the score line.

Not so much for me in the week though uptil now still, but there are still 3 matches left and I could still get something off it.

I haven’t seen the game, but judging by the statistics, this is the case when you can’t do anything and your opponent has everything:

Shots - 14:17
Shots on target – 6:6
Corners – 1:9
Ball possession 38% - 62%

Do you agree that from these statistics it is impossible to see the score 5-1? Recently Aston Villa won against City and the score 1-0 was lucky for City as the opponent completely dominated.
Now I don't envy United, on which Bayern will take out all their anger.
1300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: December 09, 2023, 05:57:02 PM
I could be wrong, but here is my opinion: after such a humiliation from Eintracht, Bayern's victory over United is inevitable. Bayern were annoyed even after the home draw with Copenhagen (Müller said in an interview that he was angry) and now they have something to prove.
With United, everything is clear - according to rumors, if United had lost to Chelsea, TH would have been fired immediately. Today United was defeated by Bournemouth and in general everything is clear and maybe everyone in the club (especially the players) is already thinking about what will happen after TH.
Considering that the odds are good, I will take a risk and add this outcome to my cash bet.

P.S. Not financial advice!  Cheesy
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