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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: December 09, 2023, 09:32:19 AM
So what was the pick? In this round there are only two games with more or less large odds - the victory of Red Star against City and the victory of Antwerp against Barcelona. I bet on the first outcome, although in fact the bet against Barcelona looks more realistic. The team is not just in a temporary crisis (like City) but is experiencing systemic problems, so a motivated underdog can beat them.

Surprisingly I didn't bet on either of them. My bet was on Lazio.
Even though they played well at home against Atletico in the first meeting, they managed to get a draw with a last minute goal, but this time they have a chance to top the group and I think they will want to make the most of it.

If I remember correctly, the coefficient is approximately 5.4-5.5? Quite high to go all-in, but if it were a money bet I would say that this choice does not look profitable - Atlético are doing great in the group stage, and Lazio, on the contrary, is quite mediocre. In addition, the price of victory will be very high - if you look at the first places in the groups, there are solid tops that no one would want to meet in the 1/8.
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 09, 2023, 09:16:52 AM
Because we never know what would happen if they had a draw against a team coming down from the Champions League. But looking at the possible teams to come from there I don't see any team that can beat Leverkusen out of the Europa League.  Smiley
Yes, most of the teams that will possibly come to the Europa League through the Champions League are not in good form, which is why they are eliminated, but teams like Manchester United, AC Milan, Newcastle United, Lense, and probably Sevilla might give Leverkusen and Liverpool a tough time in the Europa League.

In my opinion, Shakhtar and Feyenoord will be more dangerous than Sevilla (from which it seems that only the brand remains and is now bad in both La Liga and Eurocups).
By the way, PSG still has a good chance of getting into the Europa League - it will be difficult to win against Dortmund away, and Newcastle will most likely be able to beat Milan at home.
1303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 09, 2023, 09:06:33 AM
The game statistics are as follows:

Shots - 11:13
Shots on target - 2:1
Corners - 3:6
Ball possession - 34% : 66%

I would say that a fair result would have been a draw, but Juventus successfully played in the Italian style by scoring a goal and then playing to keep the score. I bet on Napoli to win and I can’t say that I’m disappointed with my choice - with such a game, Napoli could easily win one game out of three (the odds were 3.28).
Unfortunately, Napoli's position is now such that it will be difficult for them to even get into the top 4.

I was very surprised when there was no goal in the first half of the match. Frankly, I thought there would be a lot of goals in this match. I expected the match to be over 2.5 goals. If Napoli had scored 1 goal away, the match would have been over 2.5 goals as I expected, but when the first goal came in the 51st minute, there was no goal after that.

Juventus manages to win very difficult points. Things are not going well in Naples. They are currently a long way from last year's Napoli.

The total could have been more than 2.5 only if Napoli had scored first. Juventus plays too rational football, they have scored only 23 goals in 15 games. In my opinion, this is sad for a team that, albeit temporarily, is in first place and aspires to the title. Inter's statistics are much more impressive - they have scored 10 more goals and today they are likely to score a couple more.
1304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling? on: December 09, 2023, 08:58:26 AM
What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
I understand you're trying to look out for the client's well-being, but directly telling gamblers to stop playing could backfire.  As a representative of the company, we have to tread carefully when interacting with customers and  perhaps there's a more diplomatic approach, where we could subtly emphasize the value of playing responsibly without outright telling them to stop. 

Yes, by default it is assumed that a gambler is an adequate adult, capable of making decisions independently. Any advice can be perceived as aggression in the sense that the one who advises doubts the gambler’s ability to behave adequately.
I don't think anyone would want to hear a waiter in a restaurant say, "You should stop eating, you've already eaten enough" or in a pub, "Stop drinking, you've already had too much."  Grin
1305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 09, 2023, 08:51:42 AM
Wow what happened to Newcastle? I noticed that the quotes were suspicious and made a "safe" bet on Newcastle Double Chance. It was the first choice in a multi-bet of 8 events and it immediately burned out  Undecided
Apparently, Tottenham will also kill many bettors today, since it’s already 94 minutes and the score is 2-1 in favor of West Ham. It turns out to be a continuous round of surprises and defeats for the favorites.

I was strongly considering to pick Newcastle in a parley and play it safe with a double chance but immediately trashed the idea because Newcastle have been largely inconsistent with their results. It was just a few weeks ago that Trippier got angry at a fan after that defeat to Bournemouth in November. But I was surprised to see Everton put 3 past them. With Nick pope out, Newcastle is bound to concede a lot more goals.

For Tottenham, no words. Since that Maddison injury, they've had shocking results to say the least. Losing at home to Aston Villa and West ham but we're real solid on Sunday against City.


Btw, Its Tottenham vs Newcastle on Sunday  Smiley

Yes, Newcastle has a lot of problems and due to the high competition in the Premier League, this immediately affects the results.
As for the upcoming battle between two losers (if we take the top of the standings, but in fact these are good teams), I think that, as always, the most unpleasant outcome will happen - a draw. Thus, both teams will lose 2 points and continue their decline. I've seen this pattern often.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 08, 2023, 09:59:53 PM
The game statistics are as follows:

Shots - 11:13
Shots on target - 2:1
Corners - 3:6
Ball possession - 34% : 66%

I would say that a fair result would have been a draw, but Juventus successfully played in the Italian style by scoring a goal and then playing to keep the score. I bet on Napoli to win and I can’t say that I’m disappointed with my choice - with such a game, Napoli could easily win one game out of three (the odds were 3.28).
Unfortunately, Napoli's position is now such that it will be difficult for them to even get into the top 4.
1307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling? on: December 08, 2023, 09:55:17 PM
If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

I think a dealer first of all has a responsibility to his family - well, he has to work and bring in a salary. If he works against his employer by advising casino visitors to leave with their winnings, he will most likely lose his job very quickly. Now this moral problem looks different, doesn't it? And by the way, in general, there are many people who do not like unsolicited advice, regardless of the circumstances, so it is dangerous to advise something to strangers (even if you had such an opportunity).
1308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 08, 2023, 09:39:37 PM
Yes, it's a terrible fall from the very top. Unfortunately, in the next round Tottenham plays with Newcastle and again one of the two good clubs (in the sense that I sympathize with them) experiencing problems will again lose points. And I wouldn’t even be surprised if they play a draw and thus it will be a negative result for both clubs. But oddly enough, this whole trio of losers (Tottenham, Newcastle, United) is not so far from the tournament favorite City.
Manchester City don't appear to be as strong as they were last season at the moment, certainly that was evident in the way they got the job done against the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Aston Villa. Manchester City have suffered 3 defeats and 3 draws in 15 matches, so that is a statistic that puts them not far behind the other three losers (Newcastle, Tottenham and Manchester United).

Totteham is the worst team from the top 5, having suffered 4 defeats and 1 draw in the last 5 matches. Manchester City is the second worst team with only 1 win, 3 draws and 1 loss. Of course, these are conflicting conditions at the start of the season especially for Tottenham and Manchester City, but these two teams still have time to put things right before it's too late.

Funnily enough, bookmakers continue to rate City as overwhelming favorites in the title race. Their chance is estimated as 1.25, before this round the chances were as much as 1.1, but even now, after such a significant correction, this seems to me to be an overestimation of City. In the end, City has two direct competitors ahead - Arsenal and Liverpool. The likelihood that at least one club will be better is much higher than last season when only Arsenal was in the lead and City’s task was easier.
1309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 08, 2023, 06:12:26 PM
The bet on Juventus seems logical, but what confuses me is that if Napoli actually loses, it will be their fourth defeat in five games (including the Champions League). And for Juventus the unbeaten streak will reach 10 games. Are these teams so different in class now that this has to happen? I might take a chance and bet on Napoli or at least a double chance on Napoli.

I think Juventus stands a better chance of winning going with their performance but the reason why bettors needs to take a clearer look at the game before betting is the fact that Napoli has lost more than three matchs straight and Juventus being undefeated as you know in more than eight matches will likely try to increase their chances of getting more opportunities to stay ahead on inter Milan even though inter Milan will be favourite against Udinese.

I think for a safer bet I will prefer betting on Juventus to win at home and then inter Milan to win to secure my bet a bit, there may be high chances of Napoli getting a draw but I doubt if they can get a win from away.

But Napoli's victory comes with an excellent odds of 3.28. Is Napoli really incapable of winning at least one game out of three? It seems to me that this choice is very suitable for a cash bet.
As for betting on favorites, especially double bets, I always rate them as dangerous if the favorites have not lost points for a long time. Yes, such bets look logical, but even the favorite cannot win indefinitely and the odds for its victory do not cover the risk.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 08, 2023, 05:19:02 PM
There is too much talk about who will take the title, and we don’t even know the composition of the participants in the 1/8 finals. I suggest you remember the bookmakers’ quotes before clubs from the Champions League enter the competition, which can seriously change the balance of power:

Liverpool 3.33

Bayer 04 Leverkusen 7.35

As Roma 14.70

Brighton And Hove Albion 16.66

West Ham United 20.58

Villarreal 22.54

Liverpool is the clear favorite, but the quotes show that the bookmakers have “reserved” significant odds for those who can get into the tournament from the Champions League.
Bookmakers make their predictions based on their own views on the teams performance and how they are expecting the outcomes.
I can see that they clearly favored Liverpool to be the top favorites to win the Europa League, but truth to be told, Bayern Leverkusen is more consistent than Liverpool even though I know that Premier League is tougher than Bundesliga because of the big teams in the league.

Again, some teams will join them from Champions League, most of these teams come with aggression to compete and win since they were unable to make it to the round of 16 in the Champions League group stage, therefore, I am still expecting more favorites since some good teams will be joining the Europ League from Champions League after the group stage matches.

Bayer looks more stable than Liverpool, but like Liverpool, I'm sure Bayer will focus primarily on the Bundesliga. One of the three PSG - Newcastle - Milan will get into the Europa League. Considering that PSG have the Ligue 1 title in their pocket without any problems, and Newcastle has no chance in the Premier League, like Milan in Serie A, any of these teams can concentrate on winning the Europa League. Therefore, one of these three may well become the new favorite.
1311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: December 08, 2023, 04:07:15 PM
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so that everyone has the same opportunities and no one forgets their picks, here is my weekly reminder to all participants who have not yet submitted any picks:
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Thanks again! I had a good chance to start the weekend without the Hoffenheim - Bochum game, but thank God I saw this thread  Cheesy
Interesting round ahead, isn't it? Teams from the top 7 play among themselves and the results are far from obvious, especially in the pairs Dortmund - Leipzig and Stuttgart - Bayer.
The last pair especially confuses me - both teams should not be so high... will It really be the most unpleasant result for both teams - draw?
1312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: December 08, 2023, 04:00:12 PM
I took another big risk at the end of the group games. I don't care if he comes or not because the gap has widened. If it comes I will get a nice point, but it won't be a surprise for me if it comes. As these are the last matches of the groups, I expect the teams to score goals against each other in most of the matches.

So what was the pick? In this round there are only two games with more or less large odds - the victory of Red Star against City and the victory of Antwerp against Barcelona. I bet on the first outcome, although in fact the bet against Barcelona looks more realistic. The team is not just in a temporary crisis (like City) but is experiencing systemic problems, so a motivated underdog can beat them.
1313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 08, 2023, 03:53:53 PM
It cannot be said that Manchester United's performance in the Premier League is very bad. The team has won 9 out of 15 matches and is now sixth in the points table.
But the main problem is that I have not seen Manchester United team play well against any renowned team this season. Although they won 9 matches in the Premier League, they lost the remaining 6 matches. Can't draw any matches. Newcastle, Manchester City, Brighton, Tottenham and Arsenal have all been badly beaten by Manchester United.

Bayern Munich is a strong opponent. It is much more difficult to win against such a team. However, it is not impossible. If Bayern Munich rest their key players, and if they are not with the squad, Manchester United have a chance to win.

I'm sure you meant that United were beaten by them.
As for draws, such uncompromisingness probably plays into United's hands - after all, a draw with Bayern will be tantamount to defeat for them. So if this was poker and there was everything on the line with no chance of a draw then United would have to do it. But I’m still sure that Bayern will not lose this game.
1314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 08, 2023, 03:44:43 PM
Tottenham!
Managed to pull off a dramatic 3-3 draw against the defending Champions Manchester City away from home and then 4 days later lose to West Ham United at home. In the last 5 games, they have lost 4 and drawn one. Tottenham has lost 14 points from winning positions in a game since November 6. This is a fast sinking ship that needs a quick solution before it's too late.

Yes, it's a terrible fall from the very top. Unfortunately, in the next round Tottenham plays with Newcastle and again one of the two good clubs (in the sense that I sympathize with them) experiencing problems will again lose points. And I wouldn’t even be surprised if they play a draw and thus it will be a negative result for both clubs. But oddly enough, this whole trio of losers (Tottenham, Newcastle, United) is not so far from the tournament favorite City.
1315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 08, 2023, 10:33:05 AM
Can anyone explain this?

Winner

Manchester City 1.85

Liverpool 4.41

Aston Villa 25.48

Tottenham Hotspur 40.18

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/england/premier-league/premier-league-23-24-64c766be49a198000153bbb8

It's quite funny that the bookmakers changed the City quote from 1.1 to 1.85 in just one round, but why can't they quote Arsenal? Is this a mystical team with unclear odds or is it some kind of technical error?

upd: I swear while I was writing this post, the quotes changed:

Manchester City 1.23

Arsenal 1.64

Liverpool 1.96

Aston Villa 10.78

Newcastle United 16.66

Tottenham Hotspur 20.58

Arsenal are back in business (apparently I got in at the moment when they changed the odds), but City's quote is again depressing - it seems to me that they are still overvalued.
1316  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: 🚫Запрет миксеров на форуме Bitcointalk c 1 января 2024 on: December 08, 2023, 09:51:11 AM
Я реально не понимаю - это действительно непонятно что если что-то нецензурируемо то оно и для хакеров/педофилов нецензурируемо? Если децентрализованно, то и для хакеров/педофилов децентрализованно.
Объясните мне кто-нибудь на каком этапе понимания этого простого факта происходит ступор?

Это в значительной мере верно, но не до конца.
~ Есть разница между тем, чтобы отслеживать хакеров-педофилов и ловить их, и тем, чтобы вводить тотальный кусь и слежку за каждым владельцем биткойнов. Это совсем не одно и то же.

Так в чем же ошибочка? То самое "не до конца"? Пока что вы своими примерами повторили мои рассуждения.

Для меня это уже реально задачей тысячелетия становится: криптаны понимают что вилками могут свободно пользоваться хакеры/педофилы - ноль вопросов. Телевизор хакеры/педофилы тоже могут смотреть - ноль вопросов. Дрелью хакеры/педофилы тоже могут пользоваться - ноль вопросов.
А вот криптой хакеры/педофилы почему-то пользоваться не могут, да аж так не могут что всех остальных пользователей крипты надо поставить раком и заставить брать разрешение на каждый чих.
1317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 07, 2023, 10:14:26 PM
I predicted Everton to be able to win today. However a 3-0 score wasn't an expected result even for me. By the way the number of people who thought Everton would win was low and this made me surprised. If Everton won by 2-1 instead of 3-0 maybe I was going to win the yellow cap this week. Tongue



Nice! It’s a pity that such a bold prediction gives only 1 point of advantage against those who bet on the favorite. Although I remember that the odds were close, most people saw Newcals as the winner no matter what.
For me, this is an unsuccessful round, so I won’t even look at the details, but I think that those who predicted Tottenham’s defeat are even fewer, although the result is classic (2-1) and it will be a full three points.
1318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 07, 2023, 10:07:49 PM
Wow what happened to Newcastle? I noticed that the quotes were suspicious and made a "safe" bet on Newcastle Double Chance. It was the first choice in a multi-bet of 8 events and it immediately burned out  Undecided
Apparently, Tottenham will also kill many bettors today, since it’s already 94 minutes and the score is 2-1 in favor of West Ham. It turns out to be a continuous round of surprises and defeats for the favorites.
1319  Other / Archival / Re: Таблица Подписных Кампаний за Bitcoin on: December 07, 2023, 10:03:05 PM
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    Но в целом забавно, Теймос работает на своих конкурентов. Такого подарка АТ явно не ожидал. Правда, АТ долгое время был пристанищем подписных спамеров, прикрываясь "дружелюбной атмосферой". Админ никак не боролся с юго-восточными-бангладешскими бото-фермами. В общем, свои приколы там были, конечно. совсем до недавнего времени здесь не знали даже про существование такого форума.

Как-будто БТТ в период своего расцвета был чем-то иным  Grin

Да, и напомню что хоть Теймос и вводит цензуру (степень жесткости значения не имеет) скамы по-прежнему на БТТ не модерируются.
Так что вообще-то пользователи других форумов с иными правилами могут тоже так через губу говорить: а, биткоинтолк? помойка состоящая из мошенников и спамеров? Да слышал  Grin
1320  Local / Идеи / Re: Форк bitcointalk.org on: December 07, 2023, 09:48:04 PM
Ерунда. Пойдите поищите ЦА миксеров в тик-токе, крайне современная платформа, как думаете какова конверсия будет? М?
Что касается мощей накамоткина на них всем наплевать. Будут за контент платить 200 баксов в неделю - будет куча желающих (квалифицированных) этот контент делать и никакие мощи никого волновать не будут (как не волнуют и сейчас).
А для кого они контент будут делать? 1 Миксерам нужен приток новых клиентов для обеспечения ликвидности, но если подписанты будут общаться между собой, имитируя деятельность и оригинальность контента, то никакого притока не будет. 2 Новые пользователи хотя бы что-то оригинальное делают: задают вопросы, создают темы, провоцируют более-менее интересные дискуссии, а на новом форуме это не будет, потому что его никто не знает. 3 Зато все знают Сатоши Накамото и поэтому сначала пойдут сюда и будут создавать контент здесь.4 Это чем-то похоже на многочисленные форки битка, там тоже пытаются решить проблемы первой криптовалюты, и даже где-то решают их, но к популярности это не приводит, потому что всем нужен оригинал, а не форк.5

Дичь какую-то пишите. Попробую ответить все-таки.
1 Контент будут делать для тех же для кого делают и здесь - контентмейкеры квалифицированные и нет разницы где будет этот контент "лежать" он будет иметь ценность сам по себе.
2 Почему имитировать? Мы же уже определились с тем что контентмейкеры квалифицированные. А на хороший контент и его обсуждение и пользователи новые придут.
3 Ну так любой продукт когда-то был неизвестным. Наоборот хороший потенциал к развитию.
4 И получат нахуй бан потому что местные "криптаны" стухли и миксеры им не по нраву.
5 Да, да именно поэтому биток плетется за Эфиром нынче (с отставанием в два года - я про НФТ) потому что всем нужно старье.



Тем временем идея реализуется хотя и в другой форме: стало возможным "телепортироваться" на другой форум с сохранением ранга.
Посмотрю я где будет активность если там реально миксеры осядут и будут платить по 100-200 баксов в неделю, а здесь еще и казино хлопнут  Grin
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