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Looking more now he seems better than anyone actually participating in the system could be.
But the fictions of borders and the constitution are very damaging. Paper, maps or laws, don't give some humans special status.
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We'll see how much love there is if he tells me to do something and I don't.
From everything I've read from the man, including his voting record, he simply wouldn't do this. Believe what you want though. From your comment, I get the feeling you've never read anything he's published or looked at his voting record. I'm not a big fan of government, but if there is one presidential candidate that might have some success in restoring some liberty in the U.S of A., it's Ron Paul. The other candidates don't even come close to supporting liberty and freedom the way Ron Paul does. 2:17 - more border guards He wants me to pay (for violence) to keep my friends from coming for a visit. |
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Groups all over the world force bad systems into place. One of them is the best. Not surprising.
Let's hear a better system then? One that has all the benefits of the Finnish system, and then some. That's like forcing everyone to buy one type of car, the government car and when I say stop forcing us to use the government car you ask me to redesign the government car. I don't want a system, systems suck, and using a government system brings all kinds of perverse incentives. In the future (I'm optimistic that we've hit peak government) there will be as many educations as there are people. |
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The first time the value hit $5 it hit $30 within a month! |
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We'll see how much love there is if he tells me to do something and I don't.
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The more I think on this the more terrible it seems. So terrible that I don't think it will survive.
What if I send coins to Gox that are clean now (maybe I just stole them and even the victim doesn't know yet) I sell them and get paid. Later the theft is reported, now Gox doesn't have enough clean coin to back deposits.
I think I would only store the most badly tainted coins. Anything else is prone to become less valuable at any time. Clean one minute and then Bangcock police department links one of the addresses used in an input to an input to my address to some crime or 'crime' and I lose value.
If a lot of people do the same there won't be much difference in value anyway.
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strictly philosophically, if Mt. Gox wants to question someone for coins sent to them that they recognize as originally being stolen from them, I don't see that the same thing as playing sheriff, no differently than if someone presents me cash as payment whose serial numbers I recognized as being stolen from me. If you present cash to a bank for deposit and it happens to be colored with a spray of red dye (the kind from time-delay exploding dye packs given to bank robbers), you should expect questions and not be surprised.
I also don't believe that just because Bitcoin is cash-like and often anonymous, that laws are irrelevant. In practice, Bitcoin certainly puts the law out of reach of a lot of things, but I don't think laws simply cease to apply in theory just because of that.
In the case of a bank detecting stolen serial numbers or dyed notes, the investigation will be handed over to law enforcement - the bank's role is one of informant. That's not quite the same thing as Mt Gox freezing someone's account for containing "tainted" coins. It's possible that they're exceeding their legal authority in doing that, but it's also unlikely that anyone is going to launch costly international litigation in order to have that issue determined. To a large extent, Mt Gox and the other exchanges can do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's not criminal because it's just not very likely that anyone is going to seek civil remedies against them. People can just stop using them. It's not like there are enormous barriers to entry. |
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Groups all over the world force bad systems into place. One of them is the best. Not surprising.
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They represent the active trades that have actually taken place on gox. I.e. if I buy 1btc, someone who has an unfulfilled ask sitting on the order book sells me the 1btc, but it is the 1btc buy that is being counted as the initiating trade not the other way around. If you post an order for a price that is not currently available, it will sit there until it is fulfilled. And it is the fulfilling order that is counted.
What is that supposed to imply? I guess if you have time to wait you post an offer and if you care less about price and just want asap you go to the market. So recently the sellers have been more impatient? |
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This is an interesting topic...
I wonder, since bitcoins are divisible to 8 decimal places, and coins are churned and spent and divided and recombined, does this not mean that long term one would expect all accounts to have some fractions of "tainted" coins? Just like every person's normal dollar wallet probably has some bills that were involved in sketchy activity.
All coins will end up being tainted, and thus it wont' matter and it will be a meaningless observation.
For some the taint will be more severe and more recent. Naive merchants like MtGox will only be catching innocent users because it is trivial to shuffle coins and/or use a merchant or exchange that doesn't hassle people. |
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Personally, I support something along the lines of a monarch, where exactly one person is in control, to avoid arguing with themselves, but elected for a short period. No congress, no representatives, no nothing, and the in-charge can run the government however they want. It will make it more efficient and better suited for a changing wolrd
Welcome to North Korea. Have fun there. 1 person over 6B? 300M? 900k? 6? I like 1. |
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Theres alot more people with government education though, so that doesn't really say anything about a correlation between the education and violence. I'm more likely to be bit by a dog than a tiger, that doesn't mean dogs are more dangerous than tigers...
Which is a bigger problem for you? Should you invest in dog or tiger replant? |
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(beside keeping CPU use to minimum)
Yay. Bookmarked, mtgoxlive is the suck of resources. |
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Couldn't you just send a private key with an amount assigned via email? QED.
Exactly. That is the easiest method. Create a private key, transfer funds to it. Now you have a portable digital and physical method of transfering it. You can print it, encrypt it, email it, put it on a thumb drive, generate a QR code on your phone etc. This is better in the sense of not needing a trusted party. But instawallet is the stone cold nuts in convenience. Key passing will probably only get easier though and ultimately be the best way. A URI type thing where your browser can 'see' a key in an email or whatever and do a one click collect would be sick. This kind of possibility is why bitcoin wins. Doesn't my suggestion make exactly that possible. You would one-click the file rather than a link, but that's really the only difference, and my proposal create some other possibilities as well. It's also probably easier to make your browser recognize a new file type than a new URI standard, depending on your browser. This could also be used on sites such as MT. Gox to allow one-click-withdrawals rather than typing in an adress, simply by having them linking to a file. Sure, it's just not 1-click yet, it totally could be. Instawallet is pretty damn simple already. |
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Couldn't you just send a private key with an amount assigned via email? QED.
Exactly. That is the easiest method. Create a private key, transfer funds to it. Now you have a portable digital and physical method of transfering it. You can print it, encrypt it, email it, put it on a thumb drive, generate a QR code on your phone etc. This is better in the sense of not needing a trusted party. But instawallet is the stone cold nuts in convenience. Key passing will probably only get easier though and ultimately be the best way. A URI type thing where your browser can 'see' a key in an email or whatever and do a one click collect would be sick. This kind of possibility is why bitcoin wins. |
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Instawallet!
Go to instawallet.org
Send coins to the address shown
Copy the link
Email to person
If they can't or don't take the funds they are not lost, you can get them back easily.
If there is a person you trust or want a 'petty cash' for joint venture it makes a great shared account too.
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I think the world would be better without violence. I'm not under any illusion that that is going to happen, but the right direction is to stop praising government violence as good. You can't have 'government education' without violence and the threat of. So, you don't agree that the places where you're more likely to get killed/robbed are the places that lack government education? I'm more likely to be robbed/killed by someone with a government education than someone without. |
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Is this working well? Anyone use it and review?
Am I understanding that you just deposit the cash and 4-60 minutes later you have cash on an exchange?
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FreeMoney hit the nail on the head...
while pointing at problems seems like a great accomplishment, I still didn't hear the real answer: Should we keep things as they are, but try to improve the education system, or should we remove government-sponsored education altogether? Or, should we do something else? I think the world would be better without violence. I'm not under any illusion that that is going to happen, but the right direction is to stop praising government violence as good. You can't have 'government education' without violence and the threat of. I'm completely against coercive funding of anything. If it has more value than cost someone will buy it. That said, I don't even think it's good to voluntarily fund an institution that makes kids (aka people) learn things against their will. My 3yo has learned so much (walking, talking, and drawing to name a few) with zero coercion. No one is ever going to coerce him to learn anything. I expect he will learn things he doesn't enjoy as a means to his own desired ends. I'm sure there will be things that other people consider very important that he won't ever learn. He'll probably spend lots of time learning things that I don't think are important. That's fine because it's his time. As far as details of what education will be like after the herding everyone to the same place is over I have no idea. That's a bigger question than "How will soup get made?" or "What will people do for fun next weekend?". It's worse than simply no one knowing the answer, even with full knowledge of everything the answer wouldn't fit in 10 million books. If you want to participate though all you have to do is think of a way to turn stuff that people value less into stuff that people value more, they'll happily let you pocket some of the difference too. |
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Merry winter solstice!
Enjoyable solstice everyone! (Summer solstice in Southern hemisphere.) Which solstice is it at the equator? |
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