So there are 3124 Stakeholders now? Thanks for your hard work UP  There are around 2900 now after all the deletions. I keep the position no. the same for references, but the actual cell counts in the sheet are a bit above 2900. |
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The link in your original post does not return a correct transaction. Please file an official post in stake complaint thread with the new ID. We have to check it against all the existing hashes so it will take sometimes but we will deal with all of the complaints in an order. |
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.
We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.
I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.
It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.
I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.
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what are the numbers for? 1.75E +19 5.62 E 18, E 19 1:32?? That's the NXT tx id/ bitcoin hash. There are some formatting issues especially with NXT tx id. They are fine in most cases, but it is best to go to the account's post to collect the accurate tx id (with regarding to NXT transactions). |
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My plan is to use taint analysis to link closely related accounts together. And we will limit the holding of these closely related accounts to 5 stakes, anything above that would be refunded.
We can't really say for sure all these related accounts is just one person. It is possible that a group of friends is buying via one big account holder and but one account still represent one person. It is a good thing if someone can draw a close friend or two of him into crypto because of this opportunity and then they can can help to promote NEM in differently ways locally. But I would like to restrict these groups to a maximum of 5 stakes.
I asked Kooream to compile population statistics so that we can see have a glimpse of how many unique accounts/ individuals we could have. I expect group 1, accounts created before the fundraising, consists mainly of unique accounts and as well as accounts in group 2, accounts created during the fundraising but engaged in more activities. Counting both groups, we already have roughly 1500 stakeholders, so that's a good thing.
It is expected that stakeholders can buy 1 more share for loved one/ family member as well so a certain percentage of group 3 account falls into this category. A certain portion accounts in group 3 are also unique accounts but they are not yet active so they should be able to keep their shares. The remaining are likely sockpuppet accounts and we will try to refund them using the taint analysis.
I have finished the unified list and will post them momentarily. Let's wait 1-2 days before we start the public auditing. There will be guidelines and bounties announced for the efforts. Generally the public auditing includes: public checking for errors, discrepancies in the stakeholder list; public checking for big multi-accouter using taint analysis.
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That's not true. I'm associating with the community. Under your logic, they should decide if I should stay. They are holding a mob vote. The voting results are currently in favor that I can stay, but you said it was only your decision. Lmao - since when did mobs cast votes? (especially ones that are clearly in favor of the "victim") Kool, seriously, whats your agenda? I for one think this entire thing is completely unnecessary. He is one of 10 million + nxt stakeholder so he doesnt really need or want nem stake. It is just a pure act of sabotaging. But I would like to see how good his reasoning is holding up. I have many friends in next community and some of them holds millions of nxt so his acting is kind of an anomaly. It is kind of dissapointing that he may think he acts in the benefit of nxt. |
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You paid a fee to join NEM not to buy a stake.
This is the same thing. By joining Nem, you get a stake. Supposedly. You paid a fee to ask to join NEM not to buy a stake.
FIFY By joining NEM, you are supposed to support NEM's first principle of " building a new decentralized platform" as well. |
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Utopianfuture thanks for all the hard work. Go get some sleep now, you sure deserve it. Take your time with the list, we'll be here waiting when you're ready anyway.  Yeah, I think it is times. I am 2 hour late for the bedtime |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer. LOL So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow. A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless. Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you. You don't like me because of what I said. Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM. it is not government. it is free association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_associationFree association, but you get to decide who can associate, right? I can decide who I associate with. A private association/ community can decide what kind of member is accepted within the association/ community. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer. LOL So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow. A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless. Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you. You don't like me because of what I said. Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM. it is not government. it is free association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement. Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now. Haven't you heard of freedom of speech? You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too. I already claimed my stake before page twenty. Under your rules, I am entitled to my stake. You are kicking me out, because you don't like what I said. Wrong. You qualified to join NEM (new economy movement) at that point, not entitled to a stake. Now you are not in NEM anymore. I'm certainly glad I didn't pay for my "qualification". I was right all along. NEM is the biggest joke ever. You're a hypocrite. it doesn't matter. if you paid money I will refund you. what kind of hypocrite ? |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer. LOL So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow. A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless. Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you. You don't like me because of what I said. Yeah I don't like what you said about NEM. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement. Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now. Haven't you heard of freedom of speech? You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too. I already claimed my stake before page twenty. Under your rules, I am entitled to my stake. You are kicking me out, because you don't like what I said. Wrong. You qualified to join NEM (new economy movement) at that point, not entitled to a stake. Now you are not in NEM anymore. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer. LOL So, you will just kick out anyone if you don't like what they say. Wow. A movement for economic liberty that doesn't allow free speech is worthless. Free speech is fine. I think you can pretty much say anything you want. We just don't like you. This is voluntary association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association; we cant force the community to stay with you. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement. Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now. Haven't you heard of freedom of speech? You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too. As I said before if you want to join NEM back, I would welcome you. Just remember the first purpose of NEM is to build a new decentralized platform. If you say this goal is worthless, you can't be in. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. I am sorry for sticking my nose in here but the dev team are trying to have a vision realized, and you are the only one person who has caused such a stir here. Otherwise everyone has been very optimistic. I know you have your views and opinion and that is your right but having one person who brings so much negativity against this project is a problem. I hope i don't cause offence to you as I don't even know you but having someone on board who spreads such discord is not within the interests of the movement. Once again, sorry for sticking my nose in. I am just getting a bit agitated over this subject now. Haven't you heard of freedom of speech? You have the freedom of speech. We have the freedom to accept/ not accept certain people in our movement. You have freedom to join 1001 other movements/associations too. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. At your discretion, you mean, right? I still want my stake, but you are forcefully kicking me out. At the discretion of the development team. Read the disclaimer. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP Are you going to kick anyone else out of the genesis block? Yes everyone who joined nem by mistake and now think it is not a good idea. |
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I am supposed to publish the unified stakeholder list today but I have just finished thread 1. I apologize for the delay but I do need some sleep now so will be back at work tomorrow. Be patient UP |
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