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The reason why I don't give negative trust to them is because in theory they might be naive enough to actually believe CloudThink is legit.
Of course, if you call yourself a "Bitcoin Journalist" you must be a real moron to think they are legit.
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Added your site to http://dicesites.com for stats and also made a BetterBets provably fair verifier  While making this verifier I noticed a few things:
1) What is "Client Seed Sequence"? It seems to be not used at all.
2) Could you show the "server secret" (which is MP's roll) on the bet detail popup? Obviously used for verifying the rolls, and it's not very convenient to let the players go to 2 sites to copy the data.
3) IMO, you should generate a random client seed before every bet in the browser. If a player bets with the same client seed every time, in theory MoneyPot could give "next server seeds" based on their betting pattern. So if a player is betting high every time, they would give low numbers based on the same repeated client seed. I am not accusing MoneyPot of this AT ALL, RHavar seems a trustworthy person to me, but provably fair is all about not needing to trust the site owner.
4) AFAIK you should allow the client seed to be a number in the range of 0 and 2^32-1. However you are saving it now a signed INT which has a limit of 2^31-1. You should make it unsigned so the player can put the full range of numbers as client seed. In theory again MP could influence the outcomes with the information that the client seed will always be limited/low.
5) It is possible to directly link to my verifier with: a link like this (ss = salt, ssh = server seed, sr = secret, cr = client seed) There are several sites that do link to my verifiers, which make it easier for the players to verify their bets, but it's obv up to you |
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I didn't took the time to fully check the screenshots but the relevant part seems:
RoughLyfe: "Alright! Just make sure you send those $3 to my address and pay off the other 4 when you can"
Since OP didn't agree on a date, I don't think there has been a scam here yet. But it seems clear that anon still owes OP $4 (and anon agrees with that + might pay little bit extra.) So let's wait for OP to send the address so anon can pay. Seems anon intends to pay before 5 aug, which is not that far away.
Also, the possible reason why OP is so eager for anon to pay quick, would be that these coupons are bought with stolen creditcards and the CC transactions might be reversed soon. Still, this is something the buyer should consider upfront and IMO seems he still need to pay at this moment. Nothing personal to OP, but I don't believe in things that seem to good to be true.
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Actually wasn't really working for me earlier too. Back online now though. Maybe it was this guy lol: 07:46 [81435] User81435 THE WAY NUMBERS POP WHEN ROLLED IS TOO SHITTY. ITS ALWAYS LESS THAN SAY 20 OR GREATER THAN70. WHAT ABOUT THE MIDDLE NUMBERS?  ?/ 08:03 [81435] User81435 I SWEAR THE NUMBER JUST KEEP CHASING ME. I DONT EVER ROLL A MIDDLE NUMBER. SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS SHIT 08:11 [81435] User81435 SO RIGGED 08:11 [81435] User81435 FUCK YOU DESN 08:11 [81435] User81435 FUCK YOUR MOM'FUCK YOUR DA 08:11 [81435] User81435 FUCK YOUR WHOLE FAMILY 08:11 [81435] User81435 IDIOT 08:11 [81435] User81435 I HOPE YOU DIE PAINFULLY FOR THIS USELESS SCAM 08:11 [81435] User81435 IF YOU WHERE CLOSE TO ME, I WILL JUST KILL YOU 08:12 [81435] User81435 IDIOT 08:12 [81435] User81435 I WILL SAVE CASH AND DOS THIS FUCKN SITE'08:12 [81435] User81435 I JUST WANNA KILL YOU AND DONATE YOU TO VULTURES 08:14 [81435] User81435 FUCK YOU DEAN 08:36 [81435] User81435 YOU MIGHT THINK YOU ARE A SCAMMER, BUT I WILL SHOW YOU THAT MY CCOUNTRY IS KNOW TO PRODUCE THE BIGGEST SCAMMERS 08:36 [81435] User81435 FOOL He seems pretty upset about his gambling losses. |
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Yeh dean gave ~1.000 BTC to the investors for free, just to hope the sale price might increase a bit. Doesn't really sound logical when you put it like that, does it?  |
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Thnx. Seems like the socket changed a bit, I had it fixed a week ago but still seems broken :p I will fix it later today.
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https://mytrezor.com down ?  Makes me consider Electrum even more, just not sure about the privacy that way.
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Yep: " 504 Gateway Time-out" But, I'm a bit cnfused why BitDice is not using CloudFlare. This is pretty uncommon for gambling sites and increases the risk of DDoS.
You cannot put WebSockets on CloudFlare (unless you pay a lot.) So for most dice sites, that use WS, CloudFlare actually doesn't really help. |
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Edit: I notice SatoshiDice is accepting "investment" from players now. Is the cold wallet address and list of investment amounts published? And if not, why not?
They do have cold wallet addresses: https://blockchain.info/address/18e5jpfn9zo9GQov1Ks9Pzh6Yam2SvFqqohttps://blockchain.info/address/1GBEAxb91tea1magDAQoKnjx18oH4ax2T3Claimed invested amount is 1,508 BTC so that makes the cold wallets (1,350 BTC) 90% of the BR, which seems fair enough (bit more always better though.) shitaifan2013 is correct that my site only shows 50%. Unfortunately ATM I only have 1 cold wallet address support on my site and need to add the possibility for more addresses (: Other then that, I mostly have seen complaints about very slow support when bugs happen. Eventually -so far- AFAIK the issues have been solved though (with sometimes extra compensation.) So hope this will be the case for the latest complaints too - although I have no idea what really happened with information from 1 side obviously. |
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AFAIK your expected return on a 15.32 BTC bet will be:
15.32*2*0.497354+0.1 = 15.3389 BTC.
Therefor with that extra 0.1 BTC it's EV+ to bet 15.32 BTC (if no one else wins bigger after you.)
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Damnn.. Might change my Kelly this time, was a crazy ride last time :p
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So when you play on DaDice, you just gotta hope they are not bankrupt? Maybe they only have like 10 coins left, no one knows... If there was only a way to prove you hold a certain amount of bitcoin?! so they could reassure us with the claimed 500+ BTC. |
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Too bad you didn't read at least some pages of the previous scam accusation. This has been known for a while and obviously DD didn't do much about it: Actually it is very strange they had a fixed max 20 coin profit too. How does that work with investors and kelly selections ? :s The max profit must be based on the invested amount and with the kelly selection the investor is selecting the max loss (= max profit for player) per bet he can have. This is how all dice invest sites work. Now, with more and more investors and different kelly selections, the picture is even more bizarre
Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546 .. No it is not. We have a maximum payout of 20 btc currently.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is The fact more people knew this before doesn't make it less urgent to change it... DaDice knew this for months and didn't change it. They also clearly lied about their bankroll, so 2 or 20 max profit is pretty much the same... if there is any big winner they will simply not pay (and higher max = more chance to scam more.) TBH I am not sure why people still take them serious after they have already shown to be untrustworthy (lying about bankroll.) They will only last as long as people deposit/lose on there. I hope, for your own sake, that you withdrew your leftover investments already. |
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Too bad you didn't read at least some pages of the previous scam accusation. This has been known for a while and obviously DD didn't do much about it: Actually it is very strange they had a fixed max 20 coin profit too. How does that work with investors and kelly selections ? :s The max profit must be based on the invested amount and with the kelly selection the investor is selecting the max loss (= max profit for player) per bet he can have. This is how all dice invest sites work. Now, with more and more investors and different kelly selections, the picture is even more bizarre
Like ours:
Bankroll is currently 924
Actually available 546 .. No it is not. We have a maximum payout of 20 btc currently.
Just think how logical this fixed max payout is |
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I ordered an S5 from them on June 24th. Haven't received it yet. I come across this article and now I'm feeling scammed  Sorry for your loss. Well.. I mean, I hope we are wrong and u still get your order, but yeah. Out of interest I am wondering where you got to know them? |
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So unfair others get money offers and I only got threats I will confirm your account ban request and instruct users to give you negative feedback
Im afraid neither methods would have worked though. |
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I placed 3rd in WPN tournament played thru Betcoin today. Never got credted for the money won. Support says they have to contact WPN because they don't see me as having played the tourny What kind of craps is this? How can they not see in the tournys results that I finished 3rd.when its there there now on the pc client. This is pretty typical and the reason I don't play on Betcoin. I don't want to monitor my bankroll 24/7 to make sure I got all winnings and refunds, seems they end up "missing" randomly all the time. Telling their Betcoin players that it isn't their problem and you need to contact WPN is a complete joke. |
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The promo-spam thread is in Games&rounds now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1093345.0 That announcement thread seems like a "split" of the old thread considering the old dates with some relevant posts like the questions of monbox. Seems the mods did that (happened few hours after I reported it) and seems like best solution to me, so good job to them. However since CloudThink cannot handle/answer real questions, they probably locked the thread themselves. |
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Yeh, websocket seems down.
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Anong cloud mining company ang trusted niyo?
Remember most cloud mining companies are: 1. A ponzi scam. 2. Not profitable because of decreasing difficulties. Basically they are very risky and you should not trust anyone including recommendations on this forum from others. Just a friendly warning, you can do w/ ur BTC whatever you want of course |
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