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961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 18, 2023, 03:05:49 PM
Bowlers doing an exceptional job for India.

Bumrah looked decent after a long break and picked up 2 wickets which is good, although those wicket-taking deliveries were not jaffa. So far Arshdeep is showing his accuracy with wide yorkers, it's always good to watch. Also good to see Bishnoi spinning the web.
962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 18, 2023, 01:50:41 PM
Inexperienced team but looks nice on paper with a decent batting lineup and a couple of all-rounders. Even debutants give some sort of confidence, especially the Rinku.

Wish he was batting allrounder, things could have been simpler in the long run. Dube is alright and peaking with the bat but he needs to bowl as well. For Bisnoi it would be crucial series as competition for leggie in the squad is becoming tough.

963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 18, 2023, 06:13:01 AM
@fuguebtc  Not some but a billion people didn't want their team to visit Pakistan for the Asia Cup. It was very clear from the start but all parties, especially PCB wasted a lot of time. Although their grievances were genuine but dick measuring contest with the BCCI on political grounds wasn't necessary, recently it happened with the WC fixtures too.

Yeah, hard for players to travel back n forth for just 1 match. It's final so no one can do anything about it. Now ACC must take extra care of players when traveling, maybe provide Charter flights.
   
964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 18, 2023, 05:08:12 AM
Lol Ditto!

In general, all names i came across when i read posts here, Sithara's normally post about random T-20 leagues even random fixtures, mostly associate matches.

At least someone is following T-20 format seriously. All i know about BBL, PSL, The 100 and SA t-20. When it comes to details then I only follow IPL.

LOL.. it is strange that you doesn't consider the Caribbean Premier League in the same level as BBL and PSL. For heaven's sake CPL came much before the PSL and the 100. SA20 is a very recent invention. On top of that, CPL is one of the most popular foreign leagues as far as Indian audience is concerned. And I believe that it has a higher viewer-share compared to either BBL or PSL. Anyway, I keep track of all the T20 leagues around the world and it gives an idea in which way the sport is moving. My prediction is that bilaterals will become history in another 5-6 years and franchise T20 leagues will become more prominent.
Actually, i just don't know anything about the Caribbean league. In fact, for foreign leagues, my overall T-20 viewing experience would be around just 10 overs at best. So it's just my ignorance as i am not much into T-20 leagues, except IPL.

Considering ICC going with the ICC tourney every year and almost all cricket boards are trying to build their own T-20 leagues so it's obvious that bilateral will die for sure and for the right reasons.
965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 17, 2023, 06:58:29 PM
Sometimes I do think that the Caribbean Premier League does not get as much recognition as it should just because the West Indies team is not doing very well in cricket. What Do you guys think?
Honestly, I have never heard of this league before until now. The IPL craze spawned domestic leagues across the world, but what primarily helped India was their population while the same cannot be said about some other countries like WI.

Not being able to qualify for the upcoming WC didn't exactly help their case either. They need to improve drastically in multiple departments in order to attract more viewers.
Lol Ditto!

In general, all names i came across when i read posts here, Sithara's normally post about random T-20 leagues even random fixtures, mostly associate matches.

At least someone is following T-20 format seriously. All i know about BBL, PSL, The 100 and SA t-20. When it comes to details then I only follow IPL.

966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 17, 2023, 01:43:23 PM

I was implying that senior players were missing from the Indian squad.
No, you were right. I misread it, my bad.

Sithara007, I am going to be blunt about the broadcasters, not hyping the Asia cup. Some of them are just straight up, not happy with asia cup even being played in Pakistan. that’s why they are simply not happy about it.
Not sure if that's the case.

The most possible reason, promos etc got delayed because of drama between BCCI and PCB. A fair amount of discussions were going on and at some point, there was no surety of the Asia cup.
967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 17, 2023, 04:21:43 AM
Aha, I doubt that. It's India A Emerging vs Ireland, not India vs Ireland so it won't be one-sided series. I'd be very surprised if it's a dud.

Well.. you can label the squad as India A or India Emerging, but officially it is the Indian senior team. Jasprit Bumrah got an opportunity to captain the team, with Ruturaj Gaikwad as the deputy. Sanju Samson gets another opportunity despite repeated failures. Yashasvi Jaiswal and Tilak Varma will be hoping to continue with their good form with the bat. So will be Arshdeep Singh and Mukesh Kumar with the ball. India lost against West Indies due to the absence of senior players. But Ireland is so pathetic right now, that they would get defeated even by an Indian U-15 team.
Last time these 2 teams played against each other in Ireland. India barely won the 2 match series. 2nd match, in particular, was extremely tight so i won't underestimate Ireland. Back then too India sent an emerging team but they had in-form batters and Hooda played some blinders there.

Which senior Windies player was missing? Mayers, Pooran, Powell, Hetmyer, Holder, Alzarri etc all were playing. Unless you looking at the likes of Narine and Russell.

968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 17, 2023, 02:51:38 AM
Asia Cup is coming soon but not seeing any hype from the broadcasters, atm they are busy with useless bilateral series against Ireland. Guess we'll start seeing some promo during the Ireland series.

And 1 good news for Indian fans, there are some reports coming out that Rishab Pant played in a practice match, not sure about the field but he did come to bat.

The broadcasters doesn't seem happy about the tournament, and it is understandable. The schedule is messed up. Some of the matches are taking place in Pakistan, and some in Sri Lanka. And this just adds complexity to the logistics for broadcasters. On top of that, too many India vs Pakistan matches are scheduled to happen in the next few months (including one in the upcoming Asian Games cricket tournament). BTW, I don't know what India is going to achieve by playing against Ireland. It is going to be a completely one-sided series.
Guess uncertainty around the tournament and participation of teams added more headaches to this. They should be happy tho, as far as I understand it should be Diwali time for them and they must milk it.

Aha, I doubt that. It's India A Emerging vs Ireland, not India vs Ireland so it won't be one-sided series. I'd be very surprised if it's a dud.



969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 16, 2023, 03:36:01 PM
Asia Cup is coming soon but not seeing any hype from the broadcasters, atm they are busy with useless bilateral series against Ireland. Guess we'll start seeing some promo during the Ireland series.

And 1 good news for Indian fans, there are some reports coming out that Rishab Pant played in a practice match, not sure about the field but he did come to bat.
970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 16, 2023, 11:05:00 AM


They did in the first 4 matches.

The Windies scorelines were below par in all matches despite the batting track but in the first 2 matches Indian lost the plot with their batting, not bowling. Chahal performed exceptionally well in the first 2 matches and did a satisfactory job in 3rd and 4th. Yeah, Windies took him to a cleaner in the last encounter but it does happen sometimes and every bowler is allowed to have an off day.
Valid points. I simply expected more from them which is why I was disappointed by the bowlers and the batsmen especially.
Expecting more and criticism is not an issue but we have to be realistic as well.

Players can't perform regularly and even great ones fail, so fans should reserve their judgments and not rule out players completely after a few setbacks. Also at the same time shouldn't hype any player after a few good innings.
971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 15, 2023, 12:18:56 PM
I won't blame bowlers, there wasn't much expectation from them but they performed really well and restricted Windies batters in every match, all pitches were belter so they did a fairly decent job.
They did restrict them well in some matches, but they performed badly in some other matches like the last match where a pro like Chahal ended up giving away 50+ runs against the Windies.

Kuldeep was the only one who consistently delivered throughout this series in my opinion.
They did in the first 4 matches.

The Windies scorelines were below par in all matches despite the batting track but in the first 2 matches Indian lost the plot with their batting, not bowling. Chahal performed exceptionally well in the first 2 matches and did a satisfactory job in 3rd and 4th. Yeah, Windies took him to a cleaner in the last encounter but it does happen sometimes and every bowler is allowed to have an off day.


Chahal was pathetic during this series. He was smashed all over the park by West Indian batsmen.
3-0-24-3
3-0-19-3
4-0-33-0
4-0-36-1
4-0-51-0
972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 14, 2023, 01:26:50 PM
Indian T20 team can never be called a bad team just because they are doing badly in this series in T20.
They were a bad team in the T-20 series period. They weren't even capable of defeating a team which couldn't qualify for the ODI World Cup which itself says a lot. This is the raw truth regardless of whether you accept it or not.

but India's performance in the third match was not bad but  Had to lose due to some wrong decisions in the bowling department.
Not bad? Hilarious. They misfired in the batting and bowling departments and got decimated by the Windies. Think!
I won't blame bowlers, there wasn't much expectation from them but they performed really well and restricted Windies batters in every match, all pitches were belter so they did a fairly decent job.

Batting was a letdown, batters did perform but in patches. Samson was major disappointed and Pandaya as a batter and Captain deserve major criticism.

973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 14, 2023, 06:33:04 AM
The situation is not black and white but gray.

It's true majority of the fans love fast-paced cricket that's why we are witnessing T-20 Franchise cricket everywhere but at the same Test cricket does matter, at least in England, Australia and India. Indian stadium might go empty during any test series but media rights for these test series are creating new records especially when it's against Australia and to some extent England.

Well.. talking about the media rights, it is already August and we haven't hard anything from the BCCI regarding media rights auction for the bilaterals for the 2024-28 period. It was supposed to be finalized a few months ago. For the 2018-23 period, Star Sports is the media rights holder for both television and OTT, and the deal was signed for ₹6,138.1 crores. This time, apart from Star other candidates in the race are Viacom 18, Sony and Zee. Base price for the 2024-28 cycle has been kept at ₹3,960 crore. And from what I have heard, all the bids will be processed throguh eAuction.
I was talking about the England-Australia media rights sale in India. Both ECB and CA got a great deal from Indian broadcasters. The latter got a juicy one, that's why BGT is now 5 test match series, instead of 4 test match.

Tenders are out for BCCI bilateral rights and should be over by 31st August and yeah i like the fact that they are going with e-auction again for transparency.

974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 14, 2023, 06:21:18 AM


There is no threat to the future of cricket in India, cricket is one of their major sports and the Indian cricket board is one of the richest and biggest cricket board.


As far as test cricket goes there is no threat in the longer run, same could be said about Whiteball cricket but atm India is struggling to fill the leadership vacuum and it's hurting Indian cause, especially in limited overs cricket.

One by one next generation captains are failing. Initially, management was looking at Iyer as a future captain but because of injuries, he hardly play regularly. They also tried KL Rahul, which backfired. Pandaya did look alright at the start but nowadays he's going overboard. Atm he's all talk but no performance or hint of leadership. He's taking the captaincy gig for granted and only seems to promote himself. Taking new ball every now n then, the main bowlers are under bowled and batting up at the order for no reason.

975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 13, 2023, 04:36:09 PM
Indians botched up their inning on a batting track. They are like 30 runs short and don't think it's a winning total.

Openers failed but Gill was unlucky because his partner advice him not to take review and he was not out. Batting was looking good when SKY and Tilak were batting but after that it went down the drain. Samson is disappointing and not taking advantage of limited opportunities. Hardik played a crucial inning, not for his team but opposition.
976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 13, 2023, 02:15:58 PM
ICC is trying too hard for the USA market but things are not working out atm.

Look at the overall price situation, even hard core Indian fans/ex-pats are avoiding going into grounds, who normally fill up grounds anywhere in the world for virtually any Indian match.

The situation could've been different if it was a day/night encounter but again these guys also want to entertain an Indian Tv audience.


https://twitter.com/PeterDellaPenna/status/1690704175347232768
977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 13, 2023, 08:52:17 AM
So far it turned out to be a cakewalk, which was unexpected after the first 2 close matches of the series. I was expecting a kinda tight contest but that's how things go sometimes.

Sensing a bit of healthy competition between both the openers. They are going neck and neck with each other as far as the scoring rate is concerned and more importantly complimenting each other nicely.

Fair to say it's 2-2 and we will have a final tomorrow.
Hetmyer gave his team one of the best target with his blazing inning and things were also looking for the fighting end of this match but IPL experience helps these wonder kids to throughout West Indies out of the ground with this style and bring this series at the level after losing two early matches as they hit 57 runs in last five overs and have target like 179 most of the fans were having fingers crossed because things were never been easy for the team to chase this target but their confidence and approach to this match was impressive and with this all they chased this target easily now look like we are going to have one-sided affair in last match as well because suddenly West Indian moral is down, and their bowling is also losing its rhythm as well.
True but overall i think the key moment was when Kuldeep took out Pooran and Rovman Powell in the same over.

Pooran especially is in good form and is a destructive batter. The score could've been 190+ if he was batting till the end as the pitch was a belter. Indian bowlers deserve credit for restricting Windies.
978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 13, 2023, 08:46:11 AM

To be fair to India, their 7 good years of test cricket came when Dhoni left the test captaincy and Kohli took over. India has been performing exceptionally well in Test cricket and a majority of the time were the number 1 test team with 5 Test Mace.

Also without any doubt, best test touring team in recent times but yeah in white ball cricket things are going in the opposite direction.

The thing is, the majority of cricket fans follow the shorter formats of cricket now a lot more compared to test cricket. So I think most of the people have been a little biased in their judgement. Most of the people have been a little biased because most of them have been keeping up with the shorter formats of cricket instead of test cricket.

~edited out~
The situation is not black and white but gray.

It's true majority of the fans love fast-paced cricket that's why we are witnessing T-20 Franchise cricket everywhere but at the same Test cricket does matter, at least in England, Australia and India. Indian stadium might go empty during any test series but media rights for these test series are creating new records especially when it's against Australia and to some extent England.
979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 12, 2023, 05:36:56 PM
So far it turned out to be a cakewalk, which was unexpected after the first 2 close matches of the series. I was expecting a kinda tight contest but that's how things go sometimes.

Sensing a bit of healthy competition between both the openers. They are going neck and neck with each other as far as the scoring rate is concerned and more importantly complimenting each other nicely.

Fair to say it's 2-2 and we will have a final tomorrow.
980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 12, 2023, 04:36:27 PM
Tbh India vs Malaysia Hockey Asian Championship final looks more thrilling and exciting.  Grin

I am watching both simultaneously, cricket for powerplay hitting from the young batters and Hockey for some fine attack after halftime, an excellent comeback in hockey from India.
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