https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0Your Jesus is as pure and unadulterated evil as they come. If you think any rules in the Bible are remotely justified, you are an evil person. "God is healing the world..." WTF does this mean? Giving HIVs to babies in Africa? Making babies born with genetic disorders? There is no God you FUCKING retard. I am done talking to you. Listen to yourself. You are right on the border of going crazy mad. Relax, man. You know, it's probably good that you are done talking to me. Even quiet cancer in the body isn't attacked by the immune system with the vigor that a wildly active cancer will be. If you don't get too raving boisterous against God, He just might give you longer time to repent. God is loving. He is always slightly in a quandary about how much time to give people to repent. I mean, he doesn't want anyone to go to Hell. And He is trying hard to reduce the punishment for those who DO go to Hell. So, if you are less active against Him, you don't have as much to pay for in Hell if you die today. But if you get wildly active in your anti-God approach, and He sees that there is little chance that you will repent, he might let you die young, so you don't have so much to pay for in Hell. I don't know what God will do in your case. Only He can judge what is best for you. Maybe you are on the edge of repentance without even knowing it. So He might let you go on living, all the while trying to tease a change of heart out of you. But, He might see that you are so adamantly against Him, that it is definitely the best move to let you go now. So, it's probably best that you are done talking about this kind of stuff to me.  It is a fucking myth. Nothing will happen to me or you. You are truly retarded. Beyond any help.  Now relax, man. Is there anything that you don't know? Be honest, now. There are lots of things that you don't know. Maybe God is on Jupiter. Be humble. You don't know that God doesn't exist. Whisper a little, because He might be listening to everything you say against Him. That is true. But the probability of any Gods described in the Abrahamic religions exist is pretty much zero. They deserve no attention or worship even if they exist. Mythology is mythology. BTW, I don't know many things but I don't invent answers, I just admit I don't know. |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0Your Jesus is as pure and unadulterated evil as they come. If you think any rules in the Bible are remotely justified, you are an evil person. "God is healing the world..." WTF does this mean? Giving HIVs to babies in Africa? Making babies born with genetic disorders? There is no God you FUCKING retard. I am done talking to you. Listen to yourself. You are right on the border of going crazy mad. Relax, man. You know, it's probably good that you are done talking to me. Even quiet cancer in the body isn't attacked by the immune system with the vigor that a wildly active cancer will be. If you don't get too raving boisterous against God, He just might give you longer time to repent. God is loving. He is always slightly in a quandary about how much time to give people to repent. I mean, he doesn't want anyone to go to Hell. And He is trying hard to reduce the punishment for those who DO go to Hell. So, if you are less active against Him, you don't have as much to pay for in Hell if you die today. But if you get wildly active in your anti-God approach, and He sees that there is little chance that you will repent, he might let you die young, so you don't have so much to pay for in Hell. I don't know what God will do in your case. Only He can judge what is best for you. Maybe you are on the edge of repentance without even knowing it. So He might let you go on living, all the while trying to tease a change of heart out of you. But, He might see that you are so adamantly against Him, that it is definitely the best move to let you go now. So, it's probably best that you are done talking about this kind of stuff to me. It is a fucking myth. Nothing will happen to me or you. You are truly retarded. Beyond any help. |
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So what? It does not change the fact that God aka Jesus depicted in the Bible was a sadistic, misogynic, serial killer. What does science have to do with the Bible? We are talking about the insane morality of the Abrahamic religions. You are wrong. You are talking about Satan and people. Jesus is the essence of life. He arose from the dead. Did you not read the Bible? Why are you denying what Jesus wrote in the Old Testament? Most vile, sadistic rules ever imagined. Evil in its purest form. What are you even yammering about? Not only are you biting the hand that feeds you, but you are biting the holy God Who made you, and keeps you alive. Since you are that wicked and evil, you are like a plague that needs to be eradicated before you infect others. It will happen to you in God's time. After all, God is healing the world by getting rid of diseases like you. So, we all hope that you change before He has to get rid of you. I mean, that's what He had to do in Bible times to the diseases that wouldn't change. Your Jesus is as pure and unadulterated evil as they come. If you think any rules in the Bible are remotely justified, you are an evil person. "God is healing the world..." WTF does this mean? Giving HIVs to babies in Africa? Making babies born with genetic disorders? There is no God you FUCKING retard. I am done talking to you. |
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lust is the physical attraction
my family are ugly, but i still love them
love is about caring and wanting to help/protect them, wanting to do something positive for others, and the feeling of something positive done to you by others
Uugh?! Your family are beautiful. See? I love them more than you do. Why do you talk about them that way? Lust is not the physical attraction! lust
[ luhst ]
noun
1. intense sexual desire or appetite.
2. uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; lecherousness.
3. a passionate or overmastering desire or craving (usually followed by for): a lust for power.
4. ardent enthusiasm; zest; relish: an enviable lust for life. Physical attraction is simply the recognition of beauty.Not really. Oil Paintings are beautiful yet very few people would be physically attracted to them. People love their dogs without being physically attracted to them. Many people are physically attracted to people they have never met or interacted with. Physical attraction = Lust Love is none of those things. |
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So what? It does not change the fact that God aka Jesus depicted in the Bible was a sadistic, misogynic, serial killer. What does science have to do with the Bible? We are talking about the insane morality of the Abrahamic religions. You are wrong. You are talking about Satan and people. Jesus is the essence of life. He arose from the dead. Did you not read the Bible? Why are you denying what Jesus wrote in the Old Testament? Most vile, sadistic rules ever imagined. Evil in its purest form. |
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Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?
Deuteronomy 20:13 If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."
Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!
Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"
God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.
Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.
The basic answer is that there aren't any innocents. The second answer is that God is the owner.The third answer is, Satan opposes God and people follow Satan rather than God. You continue to sound like you want to remain in ignorance, even though it will destroy you. Could you please stop talking about God like he exists? Ask him to post here by himself, or take your God and leave this forum. No post from God = no God. Could you please stop trying to turn yourself into god by suggesting that He doesn't exist? You absolutely know that you don't know that He doesn't exist. You haven't checked enough of the universe to be sure that He doesn't exist somewhere that you haven't checked yet. On top of that, the universe is a big machine. Machines have makers. You know God exists. Stop lying. If something is not provable, it does not make it provable. God of the Gaps exists only in your mind. No post from God = no God. |
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So what? It does not change the fact that God aka Jesus depicted in the Bible was a sadistic, misogynic, serial killer. What does science have to do with the Bible? We are talking about the insane morality of the Abrahamic religions. |
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Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?
Deuteronomy 20:13 If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."
Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!
Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"
God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.
Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.
The basic answer is that there aren't any innocents. The second answer is that God is the owner.The third answer is, Satan opposes God and people follow Satan rather than God. You continue to sound like you want to remain in ignorance, even though it will destroy you. Could you please stop talking about God like he exists? Ask him to post here by himself, or take your God and leave this forum. No post from God = no God. |
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The thread title is Religion and Morality.
I think morality is the important word here. I don't believe in God, but if I had to choose between the two I'd go for everyone being morally good, rather than everyone not believing in God.
I accept that belief in God can be useful to help certain people through life.
Morality is the important bit though, however you arrive at it.
There is no religion in the world that if you follow it would make you a good moral person in the 21st century. All of them are loaded with misogyny, discrimination, sadistic punishments, instilling fear and enslaving people both psychologically and financially. All of them are preoccupied with sex and power. Morality is constantly changing, it cannot be anchored to a book unless this book is for one specific culture and is constantly being updated. Mostly uneducated, gullible people follow religions. |
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I will hate abortion perpetrators forever!
out there are many women who really miss a baby born from her womb but can't
every child born has the potential to become a potential leader who will change the world in the future
don't kill, it's better to put your child in an orphanage so that the country is taking care of your child.
Abortion should not be legalize, although to some countries it is legal, but as a human and believer in God, still we should be afraid of our creator and have some pity to the lives of babies, give them chance to see the beauty of the world, the chance to live and make a living, let's all be fair and always see the kindness in every situation. Here is a Christian/Jewish video from the 1990s. https://youtu.be/PyQzAgEkJ5oAs an empathetic Christian, you should be pro-choice. Christians have turned 180 deg on the issue. Radicalization takes time, I guess. |
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Me again, replying to you on what feels like every single thread on the forum  I think the inherent desire, in the depths of our hearts as you put it, to do good and to be a moral person is a wonderful thing. You don't need God for that though. If you are a good person and you believe in God, then you're doing yourself a disservice. It's not because of God that you are good, it's all you. ... Many devout religious lunatics die right this minute. Many Atheists continue to live without God, quite happily I might add. Your conjecture does not make any sense. Just because you believe in some crazy blood mythology about some ancient salvation through one particular crucifixion, it does not make it true. The opposite is likely true, your position is unsupported by any evidence, it is a personified wish list of hopes and dreams. You are good because you are good, regardless of what you believe. The same goes for being bad. |
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@BADecker, Man (15 feet tall with a 1000 year lifespan) is made in God's image, from the KJV we know that much. Humans are made in man's image with a reduced life span (~130 years) and reduced height (~6 feet). Clearly you've never read the KJV, you just quote the passages without any kind of reflection. To say we can't know God when we're God's creation is a bit ignorant wouldn't you say? https://i.imgur.com/IGCygRj.jpgBonus link: https://www.messynessychic.com/2014/07/09/just-some-300-year-old-giant-books/archiveThe historical narrative taught in school and seen on TV and movies is a hoax, there were giants not too long ago. Man was made in the image of God. God completed the God-image in man when He breathed the breath of God's own life into him. Then man used the God-strength that God breathed into him, to tarnish the God-image in himself. We know God deep down within our selves. But we don't know Him on the outside. That's why there are people who think that they are atheists. Expressing God in His entirety in the English language is impossible for mankind to do. It might not have been before they tarnished their image. But there is a puzzling question. It has to do with what you are yammering about this stuff for. God was made in the image of man. |
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Fortunately, it isn't the simple publication of documents that makes up what is proof. The things published also have to be correct. Nobody is required to prove that ETE doesn't exist. All one has to show us that so-called proof is not proof, and destroys itself as proof. And that is exactly what I have been doing.
Proof for ETE would have to include tracking the DNA of millions of generations of millions of creatures over hundreds of thousands of years. We haven't tracked even one creature like this. In fact, it's beyond our ability to so track.
Not really. But I understand why you demand it. You don't need to disassemble and reverse engineer all cars that have ever existed to understand how a car works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srC1au8ZiU4Your car example doesn't fit. Why not? Because we clearly have cars. But we don't know that there is evolution. We don't know that what we are reverse engineering is evolution. But we clearly see that it is simple change, adaptation, and like-begets-like. Take off your blinders. Don't say "we", just say "I don't know how evolution works and what the evidence for it is." How do you think you will ever learn anything when you refuse to examine the evidence? |
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I still don't think my point about God shrinking has been answered.
To recap: God used to be everything.
Later there was a bit of science, which explained how simple things worked. But complex stuff like the Sun and the Moon was God.
Then Sun and Moon were explained by science, and so on.
Each advance of science diminishes God that little bit more.
Eventually there will be no God left.
'God made the science' isn't an argument, surely? That would mean that we understand the workings of God - surely we couldn't understand, and replicate the skills of, an omnipotent being?
... unless... God is simply the collective term for the science we haven't yet discovered.
The various gods of the nations aren't always the same. And few of them reflect what God would have to be to create the universe. God, being the universe Creator, is outside the universe before creating it. Just because He entered the universe in part (like when you build a garage, sometimes you are in it and sometimes without), doesn't mean He actually is part of it in God-essence. Science might point to God. But science will never answer what He is. Science is too weak, and will always be too weak for that. Revelation from God will sho0w what science can't, but even then, it will barely be understood. He? How do you know he has a Y chromosome? What is the 'God' that you believe in? LOL. Let me guess, you don't know. |
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Fortunately, it isn't the simple publication of documents that makes up what is proof. The things published also have to be correct. Nobody is required to prove that ETE doesn't exist. All one has to show us that so-called proof is not proof, and destroys itself as proof. And that is exactly what I have been doing.
Proof for ETE would have to include tracking the DNA of millions of generations of millions of creatures over hundreds of thousands of years. We haven't tracked even one creature like this. In fact, it's beyond our ability to so track.
Not really. But I understand why you demand it. You don't need to disassemble and reverse engineer all cars that have ever existed to understand how a car works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srC1au8ZiU4 |
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Not much to be said here. You just proved my earlier point.
Not all Christians are crazy lunatics, but you are an exception.
Sounds like you simply have some kind of a grudge against me. Why are you so upset? Is it because I have essentially proven that ETE doesn't have a leg to stand on? And it wrecks your idea that you aren't religious because you believe in something that doesn't really exist? Look at my post above this one. Nothing against you personally. You are not thinking independently, you have been indoctrinated to reject all scientific discoveries that contradict your favorite mythology. I cannot stand people who reject science. The scientific method is the best epistemic tool we have and to see people trivializing its usefulness just boils my blood. People were tortured and killed because of it and the results it produced. BTW, you have proved jack squat. You need to learn quite a bit before you can attempt to even define what you are trying to prove. http://www2.phy.ilstu.edu/ptefiles/publications/scientific_epistemology.pdf |
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I think you are retarded, that is what I think.
Lol! Simple folk don't recognize genius, even when it comes up and bites what they post.  Sure. So you are not only delusional but also a megalomaniac. Before you know it, you'll be God's prophet, LOL. All Christians are considered to be prophets, priests, and kings with regard to things in this life. Search on "all Christians are prophet priest and king." In my capacity as these, I can most definitely tell you that... Evolution is a hoax. I don't even need the help of all the evolutionists who continually prove that ETE is a hoax, to help me. Not much to be said here. You just proved my earlier point. Not all Christians are crazy lunatics, but you are an exception. |
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I think you are retarded, that is what I think.
Lol! Simple folk don't recognize genius, even when it comes up and bites what they post. Sure. So you are not only delusional but also a megalomaniac. Before you know it, you'll be God's prophet, LOL. |
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Let's see it. Pray to your God to post here, or take your God and shove it up yours.
How about this? No post by God = no God.
Fair?
God can't deny Himself. But is isn't necessarily going to play your game. You have all the evidence for Him that you need, to know that He exists, right in nature. In other words, he is imaginary and he can do squat in the real world. Anywho, carry on. |
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Not acknowledging God is sin... just as St. Paul says in the reference I showed you above. Your pic shows that even the ancient Egyptians acknowledged God, even though they didn't understand Him correctly. Therefore, you have no good in you, and will have no good until you change and start to acknowledge God.
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Sure. No problem. Make it a cardinal sin. LOL. Mythology is mythology. No, it's a sin because the knowledge of God is available throughout nature. Machines have makers. The idea that God does not exist is mythology, and a sin, because it is easy to see machine nature all around us. There were over 3000+ Gods in human history. Yours is not that special. It is in the same bucket as the rest of them. Christianity, Islam, Judaism are mythologies. None of them are based on any historical figures. They all start with the same God and Moses as the main characters. Enough said. If you don't think these are mythologies, you need to research it. All historians agree that Moses was not a historical figure. All three religions are fairy tales, written to control people. PS. Look up the definition of mythology. https://www.google.com/search?q=mythologyNo. Those were gods, not God. Many groups of people and individuals understood God without the Bible, because they understood through their spirits some of the words of the Bible that they had not seen biblically. There were also angels, people and myths that were considered to be gods by some people. The God of the universe Who is a spirit, and Creator Controller of all things, that is God but not a god. If one of the more-than-3000 gods are portrayed like that in the writings about him, without portraying wrong things about him, then they are referring to God, as well. The best bet for talking about God is to use the way He is described in the Bible. Read more, write less. |
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