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2161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What will happen when people realise that the world is cooling and not warming? on: January 13, 2020, 01:40:53 AM
This is such a sad thread.  There is so much data and explanation available from reputable sources demonstrating how where and why the world is warming.  Its middle school level science.   How can BS be posted and so many users go along with it?  I thought at least we were at the point where science deniers posted links to fake evidence and pseudoscientific explanations of their claims but we don't even have that here. We just have a consistent flow of unsubstantiated nonsense.  

This is definitely the kind of terminology scientifically minded people use to criticize ides they don't agree with, and is certainly not focus group marketing terminology designed to associate anyone who disagrees with the now debunked global warming models with Holocaust deniers. Essentially you are calling people Nazis for not agreeing with your unsubstantiated theories. This is what some one who has science on their side does?
2162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 12, 2020, 02:16:54 PM
2163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: January 12, 2020, 11:10:19 AM
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Capitalism vs. Socialism
Neither, Voluntarism is the way forward. Earn as much possible, give as much as possible to the "right" cause. 
Will-based system.

Capitalism is not antithetical to voluntarism. Socialism and communism however are.
2164  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: January 12, 2020, 02:48:59 AM
"#31 The Origins of Communism and Its Tactics | China Unscripted"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwPScbShR_0

"#55 How Communism Destroys a Society | Joshua Philipp"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjBUPB009Qo

You really need to watch the second video especially. This guy is exceptionally informed about the psychology and function of communism/socialism, and why it is by definition malignant.
2165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why socialism? on: January 12, 2020, 12:32:24 AM
Its a strawman.  no one is "pushing for" the ideas and policies that haven't worked in the past.  

No one "pushes for" starvation, totalitarianism, and genocide. It arises out of failed policy. You are the one using a straw man.
You're correct (today) except you don't know what a strawman is.  No one is pushing for failed policies but you are creating an imaginary group of people who are supporting failed policies to ridicule these imaginary people for supporting said failed policies.  The people don't exist thus are built out of straw and can easily be destroyed.

I said today because genocide has definitely been "pushed for" in the past
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny
just one of many examples

They aren't imaginary. They are very real. For example you. All of the arguments you make in favor of socialism and communism have been made before and resulted in starvation, totalitarianism and genocide. An example of a real straw man is what you just did here mentioning some people did push for genocide as if it is relevant to the fact that genocide doesn't require mal intent on the part of its planners.

Great related videos:
"#31 The Origins of Communism and Its Tactics | China Unscripted"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwPScbShR_0

"#55 How Communism Destroys a Society | Joshua Philipp"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjBUPB009Qo
2166  Economy / Reputation / Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic on: January 11, 2020, 11:42:49 AM
Bump (I don't want to delete my previous bump, because it's merited).

I think you keep merit even if a post is deleted? Some one correct me if I am wrong.
2167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: nyt and cnn publicly defame people entire societies still not being sued on: January 11, 2020, 07:59:57 AM
That's an op-ed.  It's not written by a NYTimes journalist and does not reflect the stance of the NYTimes in any way.

It's literally just the opinion of a single person.  In this case, Afua Hirsch.

Interesting you don't feel the need to apply this same standard to Zero hedge. It is almost as if you are seeking to confirm your bias...

Zero hedge is a finance/alt-right blog (mostly written by the same guy, but it may be more than one guy, but we're not sure who's actually writing it because they all just post under the same pseudonym).  The problem I have with them is they write all their blog posts as if they are news articles and the opinion is only from one point of view.

The NYTimes prints opinions for many points of views.  It's not uncommon for them to have dueling op-eds right next to each other with completely different opinions on the same subject.

For about the 100th time it is mostly an aggregator site using mainstream references, but don't let that get in the way of confirming your bias. So what is wrong with it being focused on finance? Yes, yes, the opinions you support are valid and the opinions which disagree are conspiracy/alt-right. How many points of view should one author have? What you are describing in the NY Times is not "different opinions" it is called  "controlled opposition" where people like you desperate to confirm your bias use it to pretend you are rounding out your view points.


Democracy dies in darkness.

[regurgitates The Washington Post's slogan] [Remembers all articles there are behind a paywall]
2168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: nyt and cnn publicly defame people entire societies still not being sued on: January 11, 2020, 06:56:43 AM
That's an op-ed.  It's not written by a NYTimes journalist and does not reflect the stance of the NYTimes in any way.

It's literally just the opinion of a single person.  In this case, Afua Hirsch.

Interesting you don't feel the need to apply this same standard to Zero hedge. It is almost as if you are seeking to confirm your bias...
2169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine wants to search Iran plane crash site for possible Russia missile debris on: January 11, 2020, 04:02:46 AM
Russians wouldn't do this, there's no any benefit in this

He is not suggesting Russians did this, only that they used Russian made weapons to do it.
2170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: Donald Trump Hasn't Yet Been Impeached. What's Next? [serious discussion] on: January 11, 2020, 04:01:11 AM
Pelosi is sending the articles of impeachment next week.  Senate trial will probably begin within 1-2 weeks from now.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/10/pelosi-to-send-impeachment-articles-to-senate-after-weeks-long-delay-097185

Then Trump will actually be impeached.

by who?

cnn and new york times?

cnn has still not paid 275 million for accusing a catholic student of racism its still alive

This is ignoring the totally unconstitutional lack of due process of course, just that he will finally technically impeached once the articles are submitted to the senate.


I always wondered what it meant to be impeached. Clinton was impeached yet he was still President and fulfilled his full termed. It's pretty much a waste of time what they are doing.

Its symbolic, at least, but more importantly a message that a president simply cannot do whatever he wants, when he wants.

Yeah! Serves him right for conducting US foreign policy exactly as he is supposed to be doing!
2171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: Donald Trump Hasn't Yet Been Impeached. What's Next? [serious discussion] on: January 11, 2020, 02:00:18 AM
Pelosi is sending the articles of impeachment next week.  Senate trial will probably begin within 1-2 weeks from now.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/10/pelosi-to-send-impeachment-articles-to-senate-after-weeks-long-delay-097185

Then Trump will actually be impeached.
2172  Economy / Goods / Re: The Trading Corner on: January 11, 2020, 01:25:21 AM
List things that you want to trade here: i.e. coins, items, gift cards so on and so forth.

That is what this sub forum is for...
2173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why socialism? on: January 11, 2020, 01:14:38 AM
Its a strawman.  no one is "pushing for" the ideas and policies that haven't worked in the past.  
2174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazis were socialists - Change my mind on: January 11, 2020, 01:11:11 AM
Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character

Facism is an extremely statist ideology as well.
Giving the goverment or supreme leader more authority over the individual and his free will is the complete opposite of capitalism.
Facism and socialism are very close ideologies.
The major difference is that the enemy in socialism is found in class instead of race.

I don't agree that racism is a critical component of fascism. If you remove both the race and class elements from both, what you are left with is totalitarianism. That is the important part that ENABLES the racism and classism.
2175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why socialism? on: January 10, 2020, 05:12:13 PM
Its a strawman.  no one is "pushing for" the ideas and policies that haven't worked in the past.  

No one "pushes for" starvation, totalitarianism, and genocide. It arises out of failed policy. You are the one using a straw man.
2176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 10, 2020, 05:06:17 PM

Thanks for the demonstration that the left can't meme.
2177  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine wants to search Iran plane crash site for possible Russia missile debris on: January 10, 2020, 05:04:59 PM
"Missile ‘highly likely’ took down Ukraine flight in Tehran l ABC News" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAT8mUvyvjI
2178  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 10, 2020, 04:29:41 PM
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"We told him to stop wearing those 4-inch platform shoes but he wouldn't listen," presidential aides say.

Trump is 6ft tall, just because you have platform shoes and assless chaps in your closet doesn't mean he does.
2179  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ECB's coin? ZFG! on: January 10, 2020, 03:27:04 PM
The future of crypto isn't free decentralized independent money. It is state backed approved fully compliant with AML and KYC regulation coins. There are going to be state approved coins, and dirty terrorist Iranian, Russian money laundering, North Korean hacker, Chinese drug dealer, global warming, pedo coins.
2180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazis were socialists - Change my mind on: January 10, 2020, 08:39:08 AM
Typical bunch of "argumentation"... maybe the OP does need to follow his own alleged advice & google definitions of both first...  

I do not think it has to follow any Google definition because it implies that the Nazis were not socialists they did these things to remove prejudice from society The Nazis used to say against those who were anti-social.

Literally nothing you just said makes any sense whatsoever.

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